How To Drive Powerful Rear Wheel Drive Cars

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Mick Drives Cars

Mick Drives Cars

Күн бұрын

Are you feeling a bit apprehensive about getting behind the wheel of your first powerful rear-wheel drive (RWD) car? Don't worry, I've got you covered! In this video, I'll guide you through everything you need to know to confidently drive and enjoy your RWD car to the fullest.
Topics Covered:
🚗 Overcoming Initial Worries: I'll address common concerns and fears many drivers have when transitioning to a powerful RWD car. Understanding the dynamics of rear-wheel drive is crucial for a smooth start.
⚙️ Traction Control Basics: Learn how traction control can make your driving experience safer and more manageable. I'll explain how traction control systems work and why they're beneficial, especially if you're new to RWD vehicles.
🏁 Advanced Driving Techniques: Discover when and how to turn off traction control for a more exhilarating and fast driving experience. I'll show you the ropes on how to safely push your car to its limits.
💡 Mastering Slides: I'll teach you the fundamentals of controlling slides and managing the power of your RWD car, so you can drive with confidence and skill. Knowing how to handle oversteer and understeer is key to mastering rear-wheel drive cars.
Whether you're a novice or looking to sharpen your driving skills, this video is packed with practical tips and expert advice to help you become a master of your powerful RWD car
00:00 Things to think about
01:30 Traction control ON
05:30 Traction control OFF
11:58 Conclusions

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@JKiowa325
@JKiowa325 2 ай бұрын
“I don’t know what i’m doing and i didn’t die, which is quite nice 😊 “ -Mick 2024
@zubaerkalpo3861
@zubaerkalpo3861 2 ай бұрын
😢
@antazur3983
@antazur3983 2 ай бұрын
Me enjoying the video while driving a 100hp fwd
@JKiowa325
@JKiowa325 2 ай бұрын
Man my first car was a 2009 mitsubishi eclipse spyder with fwd. i loved that thing. there’s a lot of enjoyment in less powerful cars that you can have
@metal_anomaly
@metal_anomaly 2 ай бұрын
I drive a '18 fiesta 1.6 I4, it's got a little more than 100hp and it's fwd, but the feel of that car is unbelievable for a "normal" car. Don't know if it's just the i4 1.6 non-ST version, but the liftoff oversteer and driver feel is amazing, extraordinarily fun when you learn how to push it the right way
@robski.p3139
@robski.p3139 2 ай бұрын
I drive a focus ST3 250bhp fwd and they have 2 traction control settings 1 keeps on stability and the second completely turns everything assistance wise completely off, most written off ST'S have traction completely off
@anuneu4722
@anuneu4722 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha mine is a 72 bhp Renault Megan
@edwardkim2179
@edwardkim2179 2 ай бұрын
My Poverty spec 5series approves this
@illuminate4
@illuminate4 2 ай бұрын
10:51 **explains dangerous thing that can happen when driving** "I shall demonstrate" this is the most english thing I've seen and I love it.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Ahahahah this comment made my day 😂
@illuminate4
@illuminate4 2 ай бұрын
glad to hear it :)
@SatanDotExe
@SatanDotExe 2 ай бұрын
Another thing to keep in mind is that no traction control system can save you if you're really stupid, especially in bad conditions.
@BySixa
@BySixa 2 ай бұрын
I'd caveat this by saying modern traction control systems. The early tech was pretty dreadful
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
I think it can save you from any rear-end slip... It can't save you from entering a corner too fast or something like that though
@SatanDotExe
@SatanDotExe 2 ай бұрын
@@MickDrivesCars It depends on the car, but yeah most modern cars are great for that. Older TC open differential cars can be very sketchy in the wet.
@aok9153
@aok9153 2 ай бұрын
@@BySixa My 2006 superb would not let me understeer under throttle, or oversteer at all. Even in a older car you have to really be stupid I tested it by rapidly steering left to right in the snow to induce oversteer at about 40mph. It just used the brakes to not let me, i had to go pretty fast and be really agressive to get it to slide with traction on Now i have an e46, so traction is mostly off. But i tested that too in the snow, and anybody could drive it
@sgeertt4724
@sgeertt4724 2 ай бұрын
traction control is litterally a life saver. Ive lost traction at 80mph in the rain on MDM traction mode in my g80 m3 comp rwd and I went left, then right, then left, then right, then back to the middle all while keeping it in lane going 45 degrees sideways each time. Had I had DSC off I wouldve been sideways into the wall at 80 mph in the rain. Had I had full TC on I wouldnt have even began spinning at all.
@johny79action
@johny79action 2 ай бұрын
I REALLY appreciate you staying on your lane as that is my biggest pet peeve, if people want to drive spirited then STAY IN YOUR LANE. Awesome video dude and nice to see a BMW driver indicating ;).
@syd9969
@syd9969 2 ай бұрын
I mean, road positioning can include going into the opposing lane Aslong as you can clearly see ahead. If it’s a blind corner that’s just stupid for obvious reasons. But for certain country roads that don’t even have centre line markings it can be better for your corner exit to enter on the opposing side of the road. You just need to know what you are doing though, be respectful and know the road.
@johny79action
@johny79action 2 ай бұрын
@syd9969 I respect people who stay on their side of the road as I consider them safer and more controlled drivers that can drive fast without needing to risk crossing the line, nearly been hit by bikers and cars plus yesterday a 7.5t lorry that came round a blind corner on my side of the road on a national speed limit road nearly unalived me.
@syd9969
@syd9969 2 ай бұрын
@@johny79action yeh, like I said though, obviously doing that on blind corners is really stupid, irresponsible and is unskilled, so I do agree. Just certain corners that you get to know can be entered on the other side of the road for a cleaner exit. It’s hard to explain without an example but I never do go on the opposing lane in roads I don’t know unless you can clearly see everything ahead of you on an S shaped corner
@HaiRune
@HaiRune 2 ай бұрын
@@syd9969Don’t worry I get you. It’s basic physics that you can cut a turn at higher speeds than doing a heavy angle turn
@Sir-Prizse
@Sir-Prizse 2 ай бұрын
It's really hard to kick out the rear of an stock MX-5, because modern UHP tyres have become extremely good and the 110 horses aren't enough to brake traction. The most "dangerous" thing you can do in an MX-5 is to abruptly take your foot off the gas when cornering fast.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Very true
@energeticpencil2645
@energeticpencil2645 2 ай бұрын
Get a mk3
@Sir-Prizse
@Sir-Prizse 2 ай бұрын
@@energeticpencil2645 Why? 😅
@CivicMikey
@CivicMikey 2 ай бұрын
Mk3 with BBR Stage Two - 308bhp. Even the traction control struggles. Lifted off by accident when an Amazon van pulled out on me .. was sideways for a moment ..
@benjaminwiner6220
@benjaminwiner6220 2 ай бұрын
Short wheelbase also helps
@zolloz235
@zolloz235 Ай бұрын
Amazing video. I wish I seen this last year. Exactly a year ago I got an M4 Comp for the weekend and that was one of my first experiences in an RWD based car. I felt really confident in MDM mode so I switched off every aid and went for it. It was all good for an hour but as you just said, it caught me off guard for a second and the back end broke loose out of a roundabout. I ended up in a wheat field. I didnt have enough experience and these advices are amazing for that. Thanks for the video mate.
@martinstyblo6355
@martinstyblo6355 Ай бұрын
"I shall demonstrate"😁 Yes, such occasions do teach us to be better gentle on the throttle and fully alert, even if the traction control does its best (learned myself this with 5.7 Hemi that has much more torque than the little V6). All your points shown and commented are truly spot on, very good to watch! Many thanks for this video
@pitxirin
@pitxirin 2 ай бұрын
plsss take that car to a track!!!
@xandygameryt
@xandygameryt 2 ай бұрын
For some reason my mind can't process him driving in the left lanes because my brain is used to see me driving in the right lanes because of my country. Its a interesting feeling tbh.
@Benja_delmi
@Benja_delmi 2 ай бұрын
can't believe i'm so early, love your videos mick ❤ they help a lot!
@LordBooks80s
@LordBooks80s 2 ай бұрын
This is all very nice and useful, and I'm going to start applying it immediately to my Toyota Corolla daily driving. Thanks, mate!
@x_xdante4400
@x_xdante4400 2 ай бұрын
here i am trying left foot brake in my 06 corrola 💀
@ItsCDB
@ItsCDB 2 ай бұрын
When I got my M235i I was incredibly surprised with how good traction control was... So much so I thought there was no way DSC off mode was much worse. Safe to say I was wrong 😂 lucky no problems and now I keep traction on at all times
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, you have to feel the difference to understand it
@gordonstenson2708
@gordonstenson2708 Ай бұрын
Great execution and great drive done with safety always considered. Keep them coming Mick.
@edygk20kstm64
@edygk20kstm64 Ай бұрын
Bro , cool clip and the best thing about this video is at the end when you said go and practice, that's actually the most important bit ..take you rwd to track and practice as much as you can until you are confident and then all the fear goes away and you're in control..I got a 2014 Shelby GT500 and if you don't drive easy and practice until you can drive the way you want disaster can easily happen..mine for ex tc is just cutting the power off completely and if you don't know what's going on the majority will panick and lose control, with tc off the advanced tc is still on but (at least in mine ) if you keep the tc button pressed for.7-8.seconds it wil disable everything so it will be just you and the V8 , that's where the true skill comes in play that you'll have to train for if you want to be a badass rwd..best of all to you and everyone and drive safe .
@JoaoMachado-kk9hc
@JoaoMachado-kk9hc 2 ай бұрын
I drive an E36 325tds with a retune, which really isn't that powerful but it is torquey, and what I tend to find is that if your car has a bit of weight (and an open diff), you'll have a fun skid if you pull limiter on 1st and 2nd gear, but the car reliably goes back into itself. I thought it would be a nightmare, but its a very enjoyable (and often, predictable) experience. You hear absolute horror stories of RWD cars, I think its a case of people just overhyping. As an added note, my Honda Civic taught me to love driving (and how to drive a slow car fast), but the E36 taught me to love the machine. I hope everyone finds a car that makes you feel like that!
@hilly451
@hilly451 2 ай бұрын
My first rwd car was a GT86, such a fun car and safe due lack of power couldn't imagine what it would be like with more power 😂
@michaeltarlowski9316
@michaeltarlowski9316 Ай бұрын
Agreed. You should try a GR86. I've driven a GT86, an M2 and a GR86. The GR86 is hands down the best of the three. Not as powerful as an M2, but dynamically superior. Yes you read that right, I'm glad I chose my Toyota over an M2. Most fun this side of a Porsche you can have on road and track.
@troublegamingclips1059
@troublegamingclips1059 Ай бұрын
Subscribed! very impressed with your style of video... Kinda confirm what I already knew, but as someone whos never driven rear wheel, reassuring! Getting my X3M comp next month!!
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@TeamSESH_Bones
@TeamSESH_Bones 2 ай бұрын
I don't own a car and I found this video very entertaining to watch ❤
@edwardd0
@edwardd0 2 ай бұрын
very good video. just recently bought a 2020 f82 and was super worried about how to handle it. my first car which was the car before the f82 (2006 honda civic) was no where near the power of the bmw lol. glad i stumbled upon this video 👍🏼 respect, not fear
@e34borz
@e34borz Ай бұрын
Buy as a side car, drift beater an e46, or e36 with welded diff. Will help you a lot. I have e34 200hp with an lsd, Now I guess I can manage any rear wheel drive car. Cuz this beamer has enough power to kill me especially in a wet weather while overtaking. Also, do not turn off traction while in trafic, only at some parkings. 400hp in a such light car can do anything. Be careful
@aahilshahpurwala1704
@aahilshahpurwala1704 2 ай бұрын
I was just watching all your educational videos to become a better driver. What a coincidence that when I finish all your old ones you post a new one
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 2 ай бұрын
Don't. This guy hasn't got a clue
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Haha 😎
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 2 ай бұрын
@MickDrivesCars these are not educational driving videos; they're more like, "Mick talks out loud his thoughts whilst driving." Problem is, you're not qualified or experienced enough to be telling people how to drive, and I'm horrified to see people commenting like this.
@user-cz9zn6zq6w
@user-cz9zn6zq6w 2 ай бұрын
@@alivekicking6247 bro is mad for no reason
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 2 ай бұрын
@user-cz9zn6zq6w very good reason: we've got someone here encouraging terrible driving and influencing inexperienced drivers with no caveat that he has absolutely zero fast road driving qualifications. He needs to stop telling people how to drive, "spiritly" as if he knows what he's talking about. The least he could do is confess he's not a trained fast driving instructor and that his audience should be aware. The mind boggles at what these videos are encouraging. This guy is NOT a fast road driving instructor, and has no place doing these videos to a young driver audience without any caveat: which is that he is not trained. And this latest video on rear drive cars is nonsense. I hope noone ends up dead or killing anyone else after watching these.
@tulmenkov
@tulmenkov Ай бұрын
Love the vid bro
@askevl
@askevl Ай бұрын
I'm so glad this video randomly came up on my feed, just bought a manual 617HP supercharged E90 M3 after owning a 230 HP automatic E46.... And it's my first time ever driving manual...
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
Let's go! Be careful, sensible and have a ton of fun at the right time mate. You're going to love it.
@Tibialstone7
@Tibialstone7 2 ай бұрын
My dream car ❤️ Thanks so much for this. Too many people mack cars like this because they don’t know how to adapt their driving if all they’ve known is FWD/AWD.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't that long ago I was throwing around an '03 Civic. You'll get there 👊
@a2ashraf
@a2ashraf 2 ай бұрын
I have the same car, short shift install made it so much better!
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Actually the #1 thing I'm considering
@ShahidAli-ob5jl
@ShahidAli-ob5jl 20 күн бұрын
Great vid!
@thomasburns3345
@thomasburns3345 Ай бұрын
My 2018 340i is my first RWD car. I have it tuned Stage 2+ (about 460whp). I also live in a snowy climate (Buffalo NY). I have had some learning moments (and the BMW TCS definitely saved my ass as few times). I am sure there will be a lot more learning. The biggest thing so far was getting proper tires, it increased my confidence tenfold since the break away became much more progressive from the tires in all climate. The stock RFTs were harder, and more prone to sliding. The Michelin PS4S that I have now will start to complain and get lighter before fully ripping away. I had a 2013 Audi S4 before this and Quattro was easy mode. It was mainly understeer. I do feel like the 340i is making me a much better driver, whereas Quattro did all the heavy lifting in the Audi. It’s so much more rewarding. Thanks for the video!
@M-POWER777
@M-POWER777 25 күн бұрын
Don’t know if to pick the S4 Supercharger or the 340i which one is the beter car?
@thomasburns3345
@thomasburns3345 25 күн бұрын
@@M-POWER777 the 340i is a superior car. Lighter (by about 250lbs), faster, more tunable, better economy, better transmission (the DL501 is often what breaks on the S4 but the ZF8 is a masterclass), better handling (as I said the S4 has terrible understeer, the 340i has 51-49 balance compared to 57/43 in the S4), better brakes (4 piston fixed Brembo on the 340i vs single piston floating on the S4). The S4 had two things better going for it: better seats, and a stock LSD. The rest is 340i the whole way imo. And you can chance seats and an LSD if you want (the seat are fine just the S4 ones were better).
@LOLA6ifyable
@LOLA6ifyable 22 күн бұрын
What I love about my 2020 BRZ , is that it has allegedly 200HP , dyno - 30 :) So when the backend steps a bit you giggle rather than screaming for dear life , a good platform to learn how RWD behavs
@ThumperBros
@ThumperBros Ай бұрын
My very first fast car is a nissan silvia s15 (440whp) and weighs only 1250kg...no traction control etc. Only abs which seems to be disabled now after putting in a 1.5 way nismo lsd. I only drive it in the dry but can easily get it sideways. Makes me nervous every time I get in it but its a proper drivers car and I love it.
@Sanderhhan
@Sanderhhan Ай бұрын
Jeez, that insane tbh
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
When I got the M2 I actually SERIOUSLY considered this exact car. There was an S15 with ~400bhp and all the right mods for sale near me. I wanted to get that+a boring daily. Unfortunately I live in the UK and the car would just rust away so in the end I didn't do it. One day,
@e34borz
@e34borz Ай бұрын
Same here. But i have twice less power and twice worse tires :)
@99minimev99
@99minimev99 2 ай бұрын
This is perfect for my Mustang GT as a very inexperienced RWD driver - thank you!
@static7985
@static7985 2 ай бұрын
the most important piece of advice i like to give to beginner mustang drivers is straighten out the car before hitting the throttle, and if you go sideways, let go of the throttle and let the steering wheel spin on its own
@99minimev99
@99minimev99 Ай бұрын
@@static7985 thank you! Is it not wise to countersteer when lifting off the throttle then?
@static7985
@static7985 Ай бұрын
@99minimev99 by letting go of the wheel when sliding the car will naturally countersteer for you. you never want to forcefully countersteer, that is going to lead to you spinning out completely.
@Alkize06
@Alkize06 Ай бұрын
that's the thing that beginners don't get. and good thing you're smart enough to ask. the car is smarter than you think. let go of the steering wheel and let the car handle it, once its straight catch and DO NOT throttle. once you get good then you start practicing throttle control. Trust throttle control is better to have than counter steer cause without it there's no point of counter steer.
@99minimev99
@99minimev99 Ай бұрын
Thank you both, obviously fingers crossed it doesn’t happen, but that bit of info might be the difference between causing a loss of control and a straightforward recovery of traction!
@jamessmith84240
@jamessmith84240 2 ай бұрын
Great video. My M140i was / is my first RWD car and almost 3 years later I'm still alive. Touch wood. However, many years ago I did crash my girlfriend's MG TF when I learned the hard way of what not to do with RWD! I drive my M140i with the traction control on most of the time if I'm honest. It's completely stock so no LSD and I don't fancy finding the limits of it's open diff the hard way like i did with that MG 😂
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
I really should have gone into the diff dilemma in the video I actually think that open diffs are a little more dangerous as they're unpredictable. With an LSD the car does the same thing every time and it's far easier to control. I'll drink to the fallen MG TF :)
@RELUERKRU
@RELUERKRU Ай бұрын
@@MickDrivesCarsOpen diff is scary…noticed that in my mx5 when it rained. It just broke out randomly and sometimes very unpredictable
@milchomilchev853
@milchomilchev853 Ай бұрын
I think you should've pointed out the difference between ESC and Traction control, because half of the time you actually meant ESC and not traction control.
@Hotpeppa666
@Hotpeppa666 Ай бұрын
it also sharpens the throttle response :)
@jasonmcenroy1961
@jasonmcenroy1961 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered a manual M3.. my first manual car! Super excited. Although my current daily is a huracan evo RWD, so I’m not overly concerned about handling the power 😜 Thanks for the video!
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@yesyes9943
@yesyes9943 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah for sure Jason
@mangolos
@mangolos 2 ай бұрын
lambo as a daily
@nadir7936
@nadir7936 2 ай бұрын
M3 with manual... I can't believe people are so backward and ridiculous.
@jasonmcenroy1961
@jasonmcenroy1961 2 ай бұрын
@@yesyes9943 lol I’ll post a vid of it for you if you want. I have a Tesla which was supposed to be my daily, but I never drive it because the Lambo is too much fun. And I decided to not care about resale
@ark14700
@ark14700 2 ай бұрын
My car also has traction control. It's a 100hp FWD. It's designated as the "turn me off to make 1st gear smoother" button
@Ashes225
@Ashes225 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your effort We would like to see some drifting
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
I suck tho 😂
@nd_sux
@nd_sux 2 ай бұрын
An MX5 is definitely a good introduction to RWD😁
@Fox1e
@Fox1e 2 ай бұрын
Ive never owned RWD till recently, when i got my self BMW E82 128i i was scared so much xD I thought it would step out all the time xD Its so scary when you never expirianced it.
@drunksupportcharacter
@drunksupportcharacter 6 күн бұрын
I had a unexpected slip with RWD is last summer, (and i casually had TCS off that day in my 86), i was going to join the dual carriage way and due to roadworks and good weather that previously happened, i slipped as i built up speed whilst turning from the roundabout, I didnt think much of it at first as im quite calm whilst driving, but i had a good 20-30 degrees on that as i was facing the barrier for a second, but as i was calm, all i had do do was re align with no power as its typically a really tame car to the point people question how can you crash one yourself. Oh, i also remember that i basically powerslid in front of a bus in the rain with my jag XE too, but that was just too much power and zero grip, so i kinda expected it that day, and i was doing like 12mph i just looked like a prat.
@SuperMegaWoofer3000
@SuperMegaWoofer3000 25 күн бұрын
Kick down is super terrifying in the auto G87. With TSC off and auto you could very easily send it off the road. Any ‘fast driving’ you have to keep it in sequential.
@AL.farmlife
@AL.farmlife 2 ай бұрын
my favorite car ❤
@nerooc2578
@nerooc2578 Ай бұрын
Great video Mick! By any chances, could You please share the gear You are filiming the POVs with and settings? I've seen the GoPro videos on your channel, but it seems the quality has very well improved since then :) I would be massively thankful, cheers!
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
Next week's video is actually a deep dive on exactly this! Highlights : I'm now using a DJI Action 4, 10-bit colour and a colour grade which lots of people have noticed and commented about!
@NoosaHeads
@NoosaHeads Ай бұрын
Not just traction control. Automatic stability control. Traction control can make power oversteer far worse. If the traction control cuts power to the wheels, weight is thrown onto the front (which grip more) and the rear becomes light - sometimes even leaving the surface of the road). The car then pivots around the front wheels. ASC has yaw sensors. If it feels the car drift or rotate, it can brake individual wheels and alter power delivery to the rear wheels, to try and bring the car back to "straight and level." You can see that if the traction control kicks in at the wrong time, the ASC can't operate, because there's no weight on the rear wheels and therefore no friction between the tyres and the road.
@cookiemixboxset3357
@cookiemixboxset3357 2 ай бұрын
hiya mate. great vid as per usual. how long do we have to wait before a review on how you're enjoying the car? would love to hear how it compares to the joys of the megane! all the best
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
I'll be doing a full review 100% But there's too many things I want to do first! Next video is all about the manual :)
@cookiemixboxset3357
@cookiemixboxset3357 2 ай бұрын
@@MickDrivesCars sounds good man. thanks for the reply. take care and i'll be waiting for the next one :D
@rabbitdrink
@rabbitdrink 17 күн бұрын
its good to turn tc off and practice drifting in a forgiving spot. cause then it teach you how to control your car without traction, then it teach you how to break traction, then it teach you how to not break traction. all that is better than anything tc can give you especially if it rains cause you can drift slower and you have more time to think.
@llll22l
@llll22l Ай бұрын
I had a stage 1 120d for 4 years and now have a 2016 m135i I’ve had over a year and I don’t get how people spin them out within a couple months owning rwd you just gotta be brave and know what you’re doing if things don’t go your way knowing what your car is capable off, traction helps a lot but if you wanna have some fun turn dsc off🤣
@Maxaker
@Maxaker 2 ай бұрын
10/10 video
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Thanks dude
@leylandlynxvlog
@leylandlynxvlog Ай бұрын
Very engaging video as always. I need to try such a powerful car, especially a manual. Can you get the bigger ones as manual or only the 2 series? Most I've driven is around 200-220 bhp. I enjoyed my 1999 BMW 323i which if it had traction control it was useless. I also had 225s on the front and 255s at the rear and remember practically floating down a motorway at high speed in the rain. Lots of fun. I learned to control RWDs in a CLK 320 that had the traction control fault so it had none. Floored it out of a junction like the one you showed and went sideways. But when TC is working on old Mercs it's actually quite good at keeping the car gripping. I'm yet to drive any more modern RWD, let alone a powerful one. I think the newest I've driven that had more than 200 bhp or close to it was a 2006 E320 CDI.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
You can get the M4 non-comp in manual I believe, but that's the biggest. To be fair this gen of M2 is a LARGE car :)
@ethantownerr
@ethantownerr 2 ай бұрын
sick video as always man, love the videos, and appreciated you telling people get an mx5 ;)
@Vento288
@Vento288 2 ай бұрын
thank you very much i realy enjoy your knowledge please do a manula driving tips for begginers
@Vento288
@Vento288 2 ай бұрын
down shift up shift stick shift .....
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Next week's video :)
@silvix3137
@silvix3137 Ай бұрын
my plan is to import an c5 corvette from the us to europe by next summer, thats why im now getting an e36
@alanxdgamer4115
@alanxdgamer4115 Ай бұрын
bro i need to know what kind of mount and camera you use the view and the quality are crazy good. i am serious if someone knows please tell me :)
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
I have a video spelling it all out. I honestly think it's the best POV guide on youtube
@kyranthez927
@kyranthez927 2 ай бұрын
7:43 this is called snap - oversteer
@HaloDude557
@HaloDude557 Ай бұрын
I would be wary of trusting traction control too much. It's going to prevent power delivery but doesn't necessarily prevent slides. Depending on the situation it can actually make a slide worse. I would recommend learning to control cars with assists off in a safe place or simulator.
@tomsnow925
@tomsnow925 6 күн бұрын
My r34 GTT kicks out with traction on like anything. If the traction control is off it’s like driving on ice
@reginald8703
@reginald8703 2 ай бұрын
My friend, why do you have gear shift assistant off? I have the ‘21 G80 M3 base and I blip my own gears..
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
I can, it's just 10x easier if the car does it I did a short section in another video where I was like "here, just for the people that don't think I can heel-toe lol"
@energeticpencil2645
@energeticpencil2645 2 ай бұрын
4:21 this is exactly what killed my mx5 I know it’s not as powerful as an M2 but I came out of a roundabout with TC off and kick down dropped 2 gears, you can imagine what happened next
@smolblueboy7487
@smolblueboy7487 Ай бұрын
Can all this info can be applied to any and all rwd powerful cars? I plan to get my own rwd Camaro in about a month 2 months and i want to know if this applies to that kind of car as well? I do have about 2 years worth driving experience in my mothers awd Volkswagen but im sure the experience will be way different.
@kwasioforintim1147
@kwasioforintim1147 Ай бұрын
Mick what is your car’s specifications please
@CRUDEDriving
@CRUDEDriving 2 ай бұрын
2:12 I always thought this is what Electronic Stability Control (ESC) does?
@milchomilchev853
@milchomilchev853 Ай бұрын
Exaclty, I just made a comment about it as well.
@BladeStar420
@BladeStar420 Ай бұрын
my first (drift) car is an '02 lexus is300. the traction control light is constantly blinking itself on and off. must be broken. I thought it was harmless until I went to take my first left turn on wet road surface and instantly went sideways. I drive an auto and my car has already been used and abused but still goes like factory new besides the traction control and ABS not functioning proudly
@badatosu5781
@badatosu5781 2 ай бұрын
It's weird seeing someone driving around Telford, are you from near there or just driving around there? edit: i'm from around Telford seeing familiar roads is odd on KZfaq
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Yep, moved here end of last year :)
@badatosu5781
@badatosu5781 2 ай бұрын
@@MickDrivesCars how you finding it? I've lived here all my life (only 18).
@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm
@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm 2 ай бұрын
Take it to a track day at a skid pad, and then a track day for real. You'll upgrade the limiting factor, driving skill.
@MidnightGreen4649
@MidnightGreen4649 2 ай бұрын
hopefully my next car is also RWD. No hate on AWD or FWD. Would like to have all 3 styles in my life.
@johnosullivan2017
@johnosullivan2017 Ай бұрын
I'd skip FWD
@tomislavkuhar1886
@tomislavkuhar1886 26 күн бұрын
Manual shifter?!♥️👍👍👍
@kayanhaider50
@kayanhaider50 2 ай бұрын
Im in canada, just crashed my 450ish hp (guessing no dyno) rwd non stock jaguar xkr 2007, i dont have smart tcs. It was very cold, tires werent warm, engine wasnt warm ( wasnt pushing it at all) caught a slow slide after hitting some gravel (construction) and couldnt save it (bc of tcs) so it lead to me panicking and hitting the brakes, front caught, did a 180, slammed the rear driver wheel. No rim, no control arm, no rotor, almost broke everything. It's expensive but im fixing it, out of pocket. needless to say, sometimes tcs will be a godsend, other times it will prevent from acitng out of instinct. remember when u have it on, when u have it off and how to act accordingly. In my case, best course of action is to let off throttle and let the car slide and spin out. DO NOT THROTTLE OUT W TCS ON, you will do exactly what i did or worse. it will not work. If its off and yk what ur doing, best of luck. Wish you all the best, dont be dumb, drive safe.
@vl7582
@vl7582 2 ай бұрын
Can you please do a video on how you are getting such a good POV angle? Thanks
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
It's actually already filmed! Lots of people have been asking for it. Should be out in about 2 weeks
@vl7582
@vl7582 2 ай бұрын
@@MickDrivesCars thanks!
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
Coming tomorrow :)
@cccboarding
@cccboarding Ай бұрын
Never had trac control on in my charger lol
@khiwienigma8542
@khiwienigma8542 Ай бұрын
Great video. I do have a question. I've been struggling with taking off, the car jumps from in first and in second. Is my issue, too little power with too much clutch or too much power with too little clutch. I appreciate all feedback.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
Thank you kindly! It's funny you say this - I've been working on my 1-2 shift a lot recently. It's the hardest one to get smooth... I think it's just a feel thing. Personally I'm trying everything until something clicks - doing it faster, slower, hard, gentle. Haven't found it yet. I did the most disgusting clutch drop going into 2nd when I was getting frustrated... never again.
@khiwienigma8542
@khiwienigma8542 Ай бұрын
​​@@MickDrivesCars Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to reply and share your experiences.
@SwipeLess
@SwipeLess 2 ай бұрын
M4 competition in my country costs over 160k and they dont even have manuals :/
@meatpuppet666
@meatpuppet666 2 ай бұрын
Love love love the vids man but please do the intro with a fixed camera, some of us get motion sickness :)
@samiwasti8400
@samiwasti8400 Ай бұрын
Have an M3 comp and fully admit, I am worried to take it out of 4WD w DSC on. My first powerful car - period.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
Yeah be careful, the full DSC off experience takes some skill I would ease in with 2WD + MDM to start
@broken12367
@broken12367 26 күн бұрын
You find a bump in a fast corner you’re definitely gonna have a problem. Trust me I know this from experience, 60-70mph it will snap so quick you’re in for a hell of a ride.
@Sid3300
@Sid3300 2 ай бұрын
I'd argue that powerful front wheel drive cars have their fair share of danger as well. If you floor it in a corner at the wrong time and the front wheel spin up, there's a good chance you're going straight into a hedge. My 210hp Saab is prone to torque steer and will spin the front tyres mid bend if you upset it.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Very fair. It's a lot "safer" though. You can just lift and 99% of the time it'll regrip. Do that in a rwd car and 'round you go 😂
@ryanjones403
@ryanjones403 2 ай бұрын
I’d love to see you actually push the car on a dry day
@_J4CK4L_
@_J4CK4L_ Ай бұрын
S58 ❤
@slightlyinsaneraf
@slightlyinsaneraf 2 ай бұрын
Don't buy rwd in winter if you new to rwd with power first month with my 370Z I had like 4 sketchy situations and I was just driving normally cuz I came from stockish mx5 and 200hp fwd Honda. Even if you are carefully they will catch you lacking. Keep in mind my first half a year with the car TC was always on unless I wanted to go sideways [which I did lol] after which I turned TC back on right after and it will still catch you lacking
@fer1306
@fer1306 Ай бұрын
Idk but there was nothing spirited in this driving, so of course it is safe and easy to drive such a car. I am having hard times with my 500hp stage 3 og m2 with 265 square setup if i am not careful. Time to try 265/295 staggered setup.
@Ryan-cp4rh
@Ryan-cp4rh Ай бұрын
These cars have so much tech programmed into CPU to keep you from going sideways
@enzorum2560
@enzorum2560 2 ай бұрын
place youre driving looks like burgess hill!
@pieboi3082
@pieboi3082 15 күн бұрын
2:38 BMW DSC is a little spicy.
@PandaOnSkis
@PandaOnSkis Ай бұрын
My reaction time is quicker than the reaction time of my e90s traction control
@demonrange19
@demonrange19 Ай бұрын
What camera are you using mate?
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars Ай бұрын
It's a DJI Action 4 You might like tomorrow's vid
@user-rr6pb4je1h
@user-rr6pb4je1h Ай бұрын
Good video but you’re confusing ESC and traction control at some points just FYI
@Kick954
@Kick954 Ай бұрын
Crashed my rwd q50 in rainy conditions 🤦🏽‍♂️ you gotta be careful with them rwd cars especially with traction
@ayserg
@ayserg 2 ай бұрын
what camera do you use?
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
DJI Action 4
@1314_qlf
@1314_qlf 2 ай бұрын
bmws don’t use to understeer cause their engines are behind of the front wheels, and the fact that the car is rwd that means that the turning it’s light and you can turn as much as you want, car won’t understeer
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
I mean, I've literally had understeer in this car multiple times in the 203 months I've owned it :)
@InclineDumbbell
@InclineDumbbell 2 ай бұрын
@@MickDrivesCars with different wheels and 285/30R20 front, 305/30R20 rear my g87 is a little more oversteery now
@SasaDraskovic
@SasaDraskovic Ай бұрын
Every rwd car can understeer. Even mid/rear engine can suffer from understeer. It is more than engine position. Front and rear sway bar setup is almost more important than engine position. Front and rear camber also. I made my fwd honda oversteer whenever i lift off throtle
@sgeertt4724
@sgeertt4724 2 ай бұрын
MDM traction mode is amazing. It lets you push the engine like traction is off without much intervention and if your angle is crazy it controls it. Ive lost traction at 80 mph in the rain in my g80 comp rwd with MDM mode on and even with my lackluster drift skils and basic understanding of oversteer I was able to flick the car to the left 45 degrees, then the right, then left, then right, and finally back to the middle. I started sliding because I gassed it way too hard while switching lanes and all I did was slightly ease the throttle while being still on it and counter steering the slides. The MDM mode made it so that i didnt get past 45 degrees on either side. With DSC off I would have not had the skill necessary to counter steer. With MDM mode I managed to countersteer and drift at 80mph and make multiple smooth connections from left to right before making it back to middle despite having litterally 0 proper drift experience (only experience before I encountered the slide was doing donuts and basic slides). BMW engineering litterally makes this car just about idiot proof in all weather conditions. If I had DSC off completely the first time my tires spun I wouldve completely done a 180 on the highway but with MDM on the car drifted itself and adjusted itself based around my loosely informed inputs.
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! I will say, once I'm on the motorway the driving mode generally goes back to comfort and TC goes to on
@SasaDraskovic
@SasaDraskovic Ай бұрын
It is great to know your driving limits👏
@samjohnson-mi2iv
@samjohnson-mi2iv 2 күн бұрын
This is telford??
@CrisDFF30917
@CrisDFF30917 2 ай бұрын
My grandpa has a grand vitara rwd ... it is fun to drive (obviously I drive it with the most respect and carefulness that I can) ... I am saving to buy a bmw e30 92, because in my country people has no driving culture so you can only buy SUVs or trucks or FWD cars.
@timothyinniger8245
@timothyinniger8245 Ай бұрын
Open diff is impossible to manage tho on an rwd
@BanyanBirb
@BanyanBirb 2 ай бұрын
what if you're tire blows out on a turn and sends you and your z31 into a concrete retaining wall >:
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
What if a meteor hits me and I explode?
@THEDOPEGAME
@THEDOPEGAME Ай бұрын
😵‍💫 It’s so weird watching someone drive from the passengers side 😅
@orangeguy9166
@orangeguy9166 2 ай бұрын
me watching this with only a driving permit to my name and my dad's passat wagon
@UnstableAdrianHD
@UnstableAdrianHD Ай бұрын
since you said you're new to "powerful" cars, you don't need to go WOT, just steadily increase t/p
@taaaizA
@taaaizA 2 ай бұрын
thanks, will try to drive with TC off in my dads Carrera GT!
@MickDrivesCars
@MickDrivesCars 2 ай бұрын
Ok Paul Walker
@timothyhicks5843
@timothyhicks5843 2 ай бұрын
To intentionally (albeit unnecessarily) invoke a loss of traction at the rear is to create a resolvable situation as the cause can simply be removed within reasonable limits. This is rarely the situation that causes concern to less experienced drivers coming to more powerful RWD machines. As you correctly identified, understeer (plough) is the usual issue; however I don’t think you addressed how to respond to this with traction control/stability control engaged, as most drivers will and should, have enabled? Many drivers will reduce braking and steering inputs as was taught for many years and you might want to update your audience on current best practice. In respect of emerging from a T-junction, the likely ‘scare’ is excessive acceleration resulting in traction control cutting in - not nice with a 40 ton artic bearing down. Other ‘scares’ include over acceleration prior to overtaking having failed to set the car in an overtake position first and reduced traction whilst crossing over a crest which you might like to address - it can confuse the car’s brain… Happy motoring
@Scotty-vs4lf
@Scotty-vs4lf 2 ай бұрын
whats current best practice for understeer? cuz i reduce throttle input and steering angle... its worked pretty well so far ig
@timothyhicks5843
@timothyhicks5843 2 ай бұрын
@@Scotty-vs4lf Hi Scotty, this will depend upon the particular vehicle to a certain extent. For Mick's motor, you need to consider the message that a reduced steering angle sends to the car and what impact that may have on vehicle intervention levels.
@Scotty-vs4lf
@Scotty-vs4lf 2 ай бұрын
@@timothyhicks5843 oh thats a good point, i have noticed that sometimes if i stay on the gas and give it more steering angle it will do its thing and rotate me a little. its uncomfortable tho cuz it usually goes from bad understeer into a sudden little moment of oversteer (no countersteer needed tho) and i dont trust it lol i wish i could track my car to safely experiment with this stuff, usually i just drive at like 80% to avoid having to make any correction at all
@Sithhy
@Sithhy Ай бұрын
"How To Drive Powerful Rear Wheel Drive Cars" A: Don't be a maniac
@bobsakka
@bobsakka 2 ай бұрын
Need your intake on my situation, I live in Lebanon where its winter for about 6 months (heavy rain), and my dad is getting me a 2018 530i rwd, I’ve been driving for about 3 years and I’m really good but I’m scared as I tend to speed and cut up often. Do you recommend something like a Awd Range Rover sport 2016? Or stay on the bmw(I’m gonna tune it)
@cleanname4439
@cleanname4439 2 ай бұрын
Tell your dad not to buy you a car
@TheDHM3007
@TheDHM3007 2 ай бұрын
Buy better tires and suspension for bmw. Youre going to murder someone cutting up in a Range Rover
@shahabutanjinsinha424
@shahabutanjinsinha424 Ай бұрын
I've no issues driving an SUV,and FWD sedans but I feel really afraid driving a RWD...Looking forward to get rid of that...Cheers Ma Breda!😂
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