Strong things don't bend, but when stressed enough they shatter. Fortunately Friend didn't get to this point thanks to the others. Someone has to support the supporter.

Yea...I kinda feel in her first palword collab with micomet she's not that energetic kinda quiet and submissive, I'm glad it's getting better for her after

"After their friend had an unfortunate thing happen". Say it for what it is, dude. After their friend was sadly terminated. No need to sugarcoat a termination.

@@KyzenEX You are definitely reading it in the wrong context.

​@@KyzenEXlmao do you have aspergers?

She's a solid cornerstone, but let's never forget every rock has its cleavage point.

Very good indeed. Every rock has its c****age point (real technical term for mineralogy and geology, just censored to avoid a shadowban), and you could tell Friend's point was hit real hard by losing Mel like that. Since we can't show her love, we must be thankful her senpais did it on our behalf.

"being so strong" isn't nearly enough. She risked her entire carrear and income when she defended Coco kaichou. The million subscribers in Bilibili gone, most part of her income in that time gone, chinese netizens against her and continue to defame her until this day. She's really one helluva friend and I respect her a lot too.

@@mercenary128v2 There are new people watching Hololive all the time i want them to do know of this, Of Coco of the streams lost in 2020 of the 13 Knights and the Christmas miracle. Hololive has a rich history

@@mercenary128v2 Seeing how big Hololive has become today, I don't think Bilibili's subscribers are needed because business with China would become bad with or without what happened with Coco, China is increasingly restricting everything there and Bilibili is one of those cases, it's gotten to the point where Bilibili is now forcing Vtubers to reveal their identity if they want to stay on the site, it's no longer a place for companies like Hololive.

The mask was cracked and she was trying not to show it. But she has good senpais to help her, just as she's helped so many kouhais.

​@@DinnerForkTongueJust an fyi, Fubuki technically only has 2 senpai within Hololive - Sora and Roboco. Mel debuted 1 month prior to Fubuki but was moved to the same gen after a certain incident that occurred around the time of Gen 1 debut. Everyone else, including Miko, debuted afterwards. Suisei debuted earlier but was not a part of Hololive until more than a year after Fubuki had debuted.

​@@DinnerForkTongue Fubuki is actually the senpai among them. Her only senpais are Sora and Roboco.

@@seven5419 So I've heard from a lot of people. What a curious case, this cat. 🧐

True. I really hope my statement doesn't age like milk (considering the recent stuff) but Mel, for me, is not the type that seeks controversy. She's clear-headed enough to rest from internet activity after her oopsie so that's a good sign that she'll come back properly once things are settled down. All we can do is wait.

What did she do to get terminated? Im new in hololive and i only know fubuki and miko atm.

@@Gumshoe08 NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) violation

@@Gumshoe08 she accidentally broke NDA, and Cover had to make the choice to let her go, though it's clear it was amicable on both sides, as Mel herself accepted her termination with no fuss and was even allowed to send a final letter on Twitter to the Kapu-min.

@@Bakuganluver23 Actually, given Mel's circumstances, Hololive terminated her with a heavy heart - the more so when she accepted the termination with grace. From the looks of everything in general perspective (from Mel's given final stream and Twitter letter to Yagoo and A-chan's farewell message), its more like a condolence farewell than leaving on bad terms.

AZKi too, in a sense. She was smaller than Fubs, but she is still her senpai.

Debut wise Gen 1 is the senpai of MiComet.😅

@@mukti5896 Yeah, as far as Hololive goes, the only ones Fubuki can really call senpai are Roboco and Sora.

@@7QWERTY13 It's true for us out here but it's different for them. Miko debuted later but she already knew 1 Gen before they debuted since she said she saw them when 1 Gen was still doing their tests, and she also said she liked Haachama since the first time she saw her look before Haachama debuted, which is why she doesn't call anyone senpai. Suisei joined Inonaka later, but her debut was before Mel's, so like Miko she also doesn't call anyone senpai.

@@mukti5896 Isn't Mico and Sui gen 0? Before Gen 1?

Suisei and Chloe? Did something happen?

@@HudaefCares It was last year on a group colab, and Suisei said to Chloe she wanted to be friends with her but Chloe could only see her as a Dai-senpai. Suisei was jokingly disappointed. Then someone said, wake up to reality guys, they're not all friends with eachother 🙄

@@brothermoth689 I mean what they said is true. BUT!! They can be, in the future. I mean when Irys debuted I definitely didn't expect her to bond so much with Flare lol

@@HudaefCares Exactly, you never know who will have the next friend arc in Hololive.

​@@brothermoth689hell, PekoMoon was a great example of that back in the day. You just never know who's gonna end up being great pals, and it's always lovely to see.

From my point of view Mel is too kind and mel manager should be fired.

@@hello-im as the situation inside the agency is stay inside and outsiders (fans and media) cannot reach, i think the problem with the manager already dealt with (be it termination or something else)

@@devilopment3291 i hope so but i think rushia former manager is still there, but i still demand an answer from cover about that few incompetent manager that is working in hololive and a few sus in cover PR department.

I think I read somewhere that someone on her fan discord translated it all, but I might be wrong about it and I don't have a link to that discord

Forgive me but, which one are you referring to?

@@PattyBurg2448 He's talking about Matsuri. We know that she's someone who is very much in touch with her emotions. Pretty sensitive, emotionally mature, reliable, very sweet, and very kind. But that's not what people know about her, because all they know are the memes. I hope they take care of each other behind the scenes, Matsuri definitely seemed the most affected with Mel's termination (at least during the stream Fubuki and Gen 1 held after the announcement).

@@Eric_L_ oh ok thank you very much for the info

Not discounting that fbk is busy as hell (marine also said that fubuki is really busy) but for the gen 0 collab iirc the context was "which holomem seems to have the least sleep". Miko and rbc answered fubuki since she's a well-known short sleeper. Unless I missed the talk regarding the busiest holomem. Also yea, saying fbk isn't affected by mel's termination is really weird. People probably don't know too that fbk is in the escape room gang together with mel, sui, koyo, and miosha. Those 5 hang out and play escape room together pretty often.

I wouldn't call them "relieved and happy" but it's certainly a different reaction. It's not like everyone in Hololive knows everything about her private life, the recent drama probably comes as a shock (and relief because she's not part of Holo anymore) too for them.

@@kanzaki2672 Oh dont trust me, but trust me, she didnt vibe well with them. Have you noticed how some of them just avoided her for most of her time in hololive? Sure, they do not know what she had been up to privately, but they know that she is an absolute menhera through their interactions. Also, she kinda did harass the hololive members many times already, even before the 2024 mafumafu statements. Her harassment even went to people outside of hololive, like pikamee.

​@@kuratse205unless you have seen legitimate evidence and can provide the source where you heard it to prove that fact of harassing talents including outside talent such as you say pikamee whom I certainly haven't heard anything about then you really shouldn't make claims like those

@@christopherpage2622 1) I'm too lazy to find any proof 2) Most of my arguments are based on either hearsay, or even worse, speculation 3) I'm waiting for the results of the legal battle 4) Like I said, dont trust me, but trust me. Also, I'm just doing the same as what rushia does, albeit at a far milder scale. Does that make me right? Obviously not. Does she deserve the harassment from the public? I dont know, I just came to hate her. I have no excuses for my actions. I parrot the hearsay of her terrible actions, and use circumstancial evidence. But from here on out, fine, I will speak the truth, and only the truth, from my understanding of the actual direct evidence floating around now, and since back during her termination. The following statements shall have any and all personal opinions and beliefs omitted. 1) She ran a massive GFE, going as far as to stalk the fans that send even a tiny superchat. (See her merch history, recovered archived VODs, membership streams, etc.) 2) She was prone to outbursts of extreme emotions of rage, yelling, and cursing. (See the many clips of her whoopsies from 2-4 years ago) 3) Cover corp. started an investigation on her message history of her work account, and showed that they cared for her wellbeing and her reputation, but decided to disassociate from her as soon as possible after the investigation ended. This was during the mafumafu DM leaks, where they also found a breach of their NDA. (See the korekore videos, official statements by cover corp, and the changes of cover corp's stance on her from a suspension to an immediate termination, with her content all set to be destroyed, and the merch ring that was selling to be refunded asap) 4) All the accusations, documents, DM screenshots, testimonies from related victims (B-san, and C-san), from the document released by mafumafu approved by his legal team, *and* the korekore stream that mafumafu joined and provided clarification and a QnA for the situation.

@@kuratse205 holy moly that's a long reply lol you didn't have to go into such detail as my quick skim through I saw a few things I agree with but in middle of getting neice ready for school so will look through properly afterwards lol

This is not an airport. Just go. Stop begging for pity likes.

Cringe

Same; still deciding how and what i will support in the future

Club without u is still a clb, the company just did nothing wrong in that situation🤣