Microbevels, Polished, & Toothy Edges: A Close Up View

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Jdavis882 - Knife Sharpening and Reviews

Jdavis882 - Knife Sharpening and Reviews

12 жыл бұрын

This is the very first time I have tried this, so please excuse the poor execution. I will get better at this as time goes on.
I apologize if there is nothing to learn from this video. It was mainly a proof of concept for me, but hopefully you can gain at least something from it. Let me know if this kind of thing interests you guys!
I greatly appreciate any amount of Paypal donations, and as always please do not feel obligated to do so:
jldavis8@crimson.ua.edu

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@AM-ui9mc
@AM-ui9mc 8 жыл бұрын
It's the shutter in your camera that phase with your lights ac current at 50 or 60 hz. When your shutter adjusts to the brightness of the blade, the shutter rate possibly start to sync up with the light source in your room. Change to a regular bulb or fix your exposure to a permanent setting on the camera
@BradGryphonn
@BradGryphonn 6 жыл бұрын
The laser etching by country of manufacture was interesting. I like trivia. Great video by the way.
@DJ.1001
@DJ.1001 12 жыл бұрын
Very well done. IMO one of the most informative videos you have put out.
@sike8184
@sike8184 12 жыл бұрын
Great video. This has been very helpful in understanding the subtleties of sharpening.
@mikesummers8141
@mikesummers8141 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I’ve heard of micro-bevels but never owned a knife with one until this week when I bought a cheap Ruike flipper. I looked at the edge with just a strong magnifying glass and didn’t understand what I was seeing until I watched your video. 👍
@N4rjlradio
@N4rjlradio 12 жыл бұрын
That is really interesting, nice job!
@bigboss1990
@bigboss1990 12 жыл бұрын
Keeeeeeeeeeep this up buddy! I love microscopes. You learn so much and its fascinating even if you know what it is
@perspicacity89
@perspicacity89 12 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. One of your best vids!
@JoaoIndiani
@JoaoIndiani 12 жыл бұрын
I just bought a edge pro and luckily found your channel here, now Im watching all of your videos. Thanks for the help.
@knifeaddict1014
@knifeaddict1014 4 жыл бұрын
Joao Indiani how you like the edge pro
@julietwhiskey01
@julietwhiskey01 12 жыл бұрын
Wow! Good information and very interesting! Thanks for posting.
@JDYTC
@JDYTC 12 жыл бұрын
I'm learning so much from you! Thank you so much! Kind regards from Amsterdam
@Odster661
@Odster661 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I definitely enjoyed the micro views.
@johnnypea5369
@johnnypea5369 9 жыл бұрын
cool to see the close ups - thanks
@JohnGrimsmo
@JohnGrimsmo 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid bud, the only thing I was wishing for was for you to say what angle you were using for the secondary bevel and the microbevel.
@Gollammeister
@Gollammeister 3 жыл бұрын
Wow very nice polish on that micro bevil
@NNNNabeshin
@NNNNabeshin 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video, was looging for something like this for a while. Thank you.
@boombap420
@boombap420 12 жыл бұрын
very cool video. I have a whole new perspective on my edges
@bleish8512
@bleish8512 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for posting this video, this is awesome.
@erichusayn
@erichusayn 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Extremely helpful.
@weaponaficionado
@weaponaficionado 12 жыл бұрын
Very informative. If anyone is confused about how an edge is formed, this vid would explain it.
@Hexal68
@Hexal68 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a question for you. I recently purchased a edge pro system and love it for the most part, but have run into an issue. After I've gotten my bevels and start using finer grits (600 and up), I get little, very obvious, scratches in certain parts. Could this be from my "technique" or perhaps something else? I'm a bit confused as to why this is happening, as I have use other guided systems before (clamp system) and never had this happen. Any insight would be greatly appreciated and if you have done a video on this, please send a link. Thank you.
@WhoIsSerafin
@WhoIsSerafin 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video, that helps me learn what I’m sharpening
@rangodash
@rangodash 12 жыл бұрын
You spent all that time sharpening aus 8 to that degree of sharpness? Wow. I salute you
@jackknifeh
@jackknifeh 12 жыл бұрын
After using stones to create a toothy edge, how does stropping effect it? Does it refine a toothy edge or round off the teeth which would reduce the "bite" I'd think? The strops I use are cow hide leather wth DMT diamond paste (6 and 1 micron). I also have some horse hide leather strops. It is much harder than the cow. Have you ever done a review of different strop material? Leather types, balsa wood, cardboard, etc. Murray Carter just uses newspaper layed across a stone. Your thoughts?
@Caiaiman
@Caiaiman 8 жыл бұрын
How do you create a micro bevel
@ezvkm77
@ezvkm77 8 жыл бұрын
did you upgrade your microscope. If so to what? Great pictures!
@patdud1979
@patdud1979 12 жыл бұрын
cool vid this is going to give a unique point of view for future knife review good job.
@falopio67
@falopio67 4 жыл бұрын
after getting the burr in both sides....im doing something wrong...i dont get the really sharp
@jdavis882
@jdavis882 12 жыл бұрын
@TheMotorick It's an Aven Mighty Scope 1.3m :)
@9mmkahr
@9mmkahr 11 жыл бұрын
i'd imagine a toothy (650) micro bevel would cut better initially but a let's say 6000 grit micro bevel would last a bit longer? i know a micro is much easier to touch up / hone, but does a solid beveled edge, with no micro, last longer?
@ChristopherSalisburySalz
@ChristopherSalisburySalz 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the blade close up without magnification first and then with magnification so we can get a sense of the edge we are looking at.
@Evadyn
@Evadyn 12 жыл бұрын
Thnx for the vid man. It would be interesting to see some other grinds, a convex or a 0 scandi grind and such.
@holeshothunter5544
@holeshothunter5544 8 жыл бұрын
thee blinking on and off is likely an electronic effect in the video cam. Look at where on the blade you are lighting when this happens. I've seen that when the light reflects in 2 directions and confuses the camera.
@saintofchelseathomascarlyl5713
@saintofchelseathomascarlyl5713 2 жыл бұрын
this is beautiful thank you
@illduitmyself
@illduitmyself 9 жыл бұрын
that wacky light show that flashed showed the microbevel pretty good
@oogiesmuncher
@oogiesmuncher 12 жыл бұрын
would a 100x magnification be enough to show what i am doing to the edge when sharpening!? or is it not strong enough
@mbenjamin292
@mbenjamin292 9 жыл бұрын
Wow you really kmow your bevels I listen an watch virtuevoice and you channel poped up great job and thanks for taking the time to teach others howcto do things the correct way.thanks again.
@CliffStamp
@CliffStamp 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, the edge finish should not be confused with the beveling terms, but this is mainly a hobby type discussion so the terms go all over the place. If you check the literature the bevels are very clearly defined, but not every author uses the same definitions either.
@interista7878
@interista7878 12 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! :)
@elongatuspiranha
@elongatuspiranha 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent Excellent Video!
@barkingspider2007
@barkingspider2007 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@JamesPettinato
@JamesPettinato 8 жыл бұрын
what magnification are you using
@CliffStamp
@CliffStamp 11 жыл бұрын
The terms used in discussing knives are not well adopted and everyone tends to use their own preferences. Technically a micro-bevel is another bevel however when switching grits even with clamp/jig systems the stone heights can make small changes in angle so technically you could end up with 3-7 bevels but generally no one would regard them as such as none are visible or intentional.
@252chevyboyz
@252chevyboyz 12 жыл бұрын
Great video man and I kinda think the flashing of the light really brings out the mirco bevel. Just a thought
@OnTheEdge72
@OnTheEdge72 12 жыл бұрын
Cool video, very informative =) Thanks for sharing!
@5OclockSharp
@5OclockSharp 12 жыл бұрын
@chewy667 Emersons and the sharpmaker don't mix well. I'm guessing your edge veers way off to one direction when cutting through material
@X4CTO
@X4CTO 12 жыл бұрын
Now you got me over here with my 10x jeweler's loupe seeing what I can see on some of my edges, LMAO! I just sharpened up and stropped my Manix 2 LW in CTS-BD1 and it's a really nice cutter, the edge is not mirror polished but the bevel looks pretty nice and uniform. I for one think it was very cool seeing these things, more, more! HAHA! I've always been the type that liked grabbing my binoculars and magnifying glass and exploring everything. I used to look into my cuts with a loupe too. LOL.
@CliffStamp
@CliffStamp 11 жыл бұрын
A micro-bevel is just that, a bevel which can not be seen by eye, it isn't maintained as such it is simply ignored when sharpening the apex bevel. The blunting of an edge would exceed the extent of the micro-bevel which has to be reset if one is desired when the apex bevel is sharpened.
@drumrboy80
@drumrboy80 12 жыл бұрын
That's cool...I use a magnifying glass, thanks to you, in my sharpening kit. It makes looking for the burr, chips, rolls so much easier..I get better results
@SnwBrdFrvr
@SnwBrdFrvr 6 жыл бұрын
600? I always assumed the spyderco white ceramic stones were more like 2 or 3000 grit?
@X4CTO
@X4CTO 12 жыл бұрын
I would personally like to see what you can do to some VG-10 bro... then show us up under the 'scope. I love VG-10, not the best available these days but it certainly has a place in my heart after having performed for me for so many years. Also... I'd love to see some edges after you do your cut tests on the rope, to see what all kinds of micro damage is occurring... I vote for that for sure. Basically anything to give us all some more data and knowledge on the subject is good in my book.
@kphifer1
@kphifer1 12 жыл бұрын
Once you begin sharpening a knife after purchase/use, how long can/will it take to remove the micro edge?
@TheMotorick
@TheMotorick 12 жыл бұрын
Your close-ups were pretty good considering. I have to ask, what kind of microscope were you using? I want one. :D
@jdavis882
@jdavis882 12 жыл бұрын
@pablofcb21 I plan on doing a close up of the edge before and after the test to compare. :)
@dickmann6506
@dickmann6506 10 жыл бұрын
Just GREAT!!!
@Peachwhaler26
@Peachwhaler26 12 жыл бұрын
Never knew that about the logos, had to look at my delica lol, that is pretty cool
@mbenjamin292
@mbenjamin292 9 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Barkriver knifes?
@ChristopherSalisburySalz
@ChristopherSalisburySalz 2 жыл бұрын
I think the lens is trying to auto adjust to the rapidly changing light due to the reflections as you rock the blade.
@pablofcb21
@pablofcb21 12 жыл бұрын
nice stuff men! you should add a section using the microscope at the cut tests! thanks and keep up the good stuff!
@dennisstrickland5216
@dennisstrickland5216 8 жыл бұрын
fantastic photos i'm sorry you had problems. dennis
@CTKTMRIDER
@CTKTMRIDER 12 жыл бұрын
Good stuff !
@IronPrayers77
@IronPrayers77 12 жыл бұрын
Maybe try this in a light box/tent, the softer light might work out better or maybe not. Keep em' coming.
@EverydayOutdoorsNJ
@EverydayOutdoorsNJ 12 жыл бұрын
Very cool!!
@UltraThroatKick
@UltraThroatKick 11 жыл бұрын
How do you remove a micro bevel?
@JNard829
@JNard829 12 жыл бұрын
what did you sharpen that cold steel on?
@elongatuspiranha
@elongatuspiranha 12 жыл бұрын
I like the Taiwan Spydie the best, pretty cool. Very good info, keep it up. Thanks
@ArtistBlade1972
@ArtistBlade1972 12 жыл бұрын
What was the magnification level?
@mu99ins
@mu99ins 11 жыл бұрын
With what tool would the precision sharpener use to reset the micro-bevel? Yeah, I think calling a toothy edge a micro bevel is incorrect. Basically, isn't it just a toothy edge?
@gundude73
@gundude73 12 жыл бұрын
very cool!
@pigpaul
@pigpaul 5 жыл бұрын
May I please send you my knives to have a edge like this?? You have a website?
@gundude73
@gundude73 12 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@TheDetree
@TheDetree 3 жыл бұрын
what magnification are you using?
@bamafaninky861
@bamafaninky861 3 жыл бұрын
What are you using to view this? Do you know of anything that would connect to a phone to allow you to view? Praying you start making sharpening videos again. RTR?
@ChristopherSLucas
@ChristopherSLucas 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the video It was useful.
@rickcolby6666
@rickcolby6666 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@saenzgus29
@saenzgus29 9 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Will help!
@CliffStamp
@CliffStamp 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah the term micro in a lay sense just means small, like the micro-machine toys. However the actual academic/metallurgical use means micron scale. The problem in using a vague definition is that the discussion gets problematic because a micro-bevel which is on the nature of a micron is very different than one which is on the scale of 100 microns (which you can barely see) in how they effect performance/sharpening etc. . Ironically, the name of my channel hints at nano-bevels.
@glytch5
@glytch5 9 жыл бұрын
I don't feel as though micro bevels do give strength... they just make sharpening easy and save metal. My factory edges that have no micro bevels always hold up much longer than after I micro bevel with a sharpmaker. I think I need an edge pro.
@glytch5
@glytch5 8 жыл бұрын
+ford fairlane well this first comment was over a year ago, I had since bought the edgepro. I generally do them free hand, or if i'm feeling goofy i'll use the sharpmaker. I generally do not micro bevel knives though.
@bobmellon
@bobmellon 12 жыл бұрын
very cool
@gunnuts82
@gunnuts82 12 жыл бұрын
id like to see a before and after strop vid with the microscope
@bushcraft_in_the_north
@bushcraft_in_the_north 9 жыл бұрын
Hmm, informative! !
@trailtooth1447
@trailtooth1447 3 жыл бұрын
Try playing with colored or polarized filters
@afotsahri
@afotsahri Жыл бұрын
Thanks for share....GBU
@warren_delacruz
@warren_delacruz Ай бұрын
12 years late to the party, but thanks for the vid.
@Den-nu6pv
@Den-nu6pv 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@bluehulk83
@bluehulk83 12 жыл бұрын
thanks B
@buriedintheblack
@buriedintheblack 12 жыл бұрын
This looks like a job for 1080p!
@augustwest3575
@augustwest3575 4 жыл бұрын
cool
@jdavis882
@jdavis882 12 жыл бұрын
@jackchn23 That's the plan! Should be cool. :)
@tucuquitodelalma
@tucuquitodelalma 9 жыл бұрын
Epilepsy Attack Starting at 3:47
@ChuckRichardsHandmadeKnives
@ChuckRichardsHandmadeKnives 12 жыл бұрын
Duuuude, greeaat vid!! Love the info. Nice cam work and polishing. Here's an app that android users can use to see very up close and magnified,,,, it's called "Magnify" in the android mkt, it's free also. Peace out
@kphifer1
@kphifer1 12 жыл бұрын
Also, interesting video.
@209chevymon
@209chevymon 7 жыл бұрын
so what is better a polished or toothy edge?
@yolmak1793
@yolmak1793 7 жыл бұрын
Butchers want a toothy edge, that saws through the meat. That's why they use relatively coarse stones and a coarse butcher steel to create new teeth into the edge.
@kensmith3251
@kensmith3251 6 жыл бұрын
Is "toothy" just tiny, tiny, tiny "chips"?
@jacobacostamasterscribe2200
@jacobacostamasterscribe2200 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Smith imagine a serrated knife. Now think of those teeth getting smaller and smaller everything you go up in store grit. So yes in a way. Toothy is like bigger teeth at the apex
@pablofcb21
@pablofcb21 12 жыл бұрын
@jdavis882 please! that sure will be awesome!! :)
@falopio67
@falopio67 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@mu99ins
@mu99ins 11 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...I have some beefs with micro bevels. Start off with, the manufacturers do not specify that they grind such micro bevels, that I know of. How is an owner supposed to sharpen a knife with a bevel he cannot see, and wasn't informed about? It's so small, who is skilled enough to maintain a micro bevel? How would you know if you were accurately maintaining such a bevel without an expensive microscope? Manufacturers are grinding edges that defy maintenance, and fool their customers.
@getredytagetredy
@getredytagetredy 3 жыл бұрын
Human fingertips are the most Sensitive of all and any life on the Planet...
@CliffStamp
@CliffStamp 11 жыл бұрын
Micro-bevels in industry are usually what results after a pass on the buffer, the angle and width of the bevel will depend on the force used, the number of passes and the nature of the wheel (softer wheels produce larger bevels). As the micro-bevel is just that, micro, the performance is relatively insensitive to angle compared to the primary or apex bevel. You are talking about the edge to an extent on the order of 1/10 of 1 thousand of an inch.
@jdavis882
@jdavis882 12 жыл бұрын
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