Nope, people are moving to Mac way more than they are moving to Linux. Edit: Apparently, I was quoting misinformation. My bad.

@@MrGamelover23peak brainrot

Yup, propaganda really works....

yea more like microsoft is ready to be labeled salesman of thr year for unix LMAO

Satya DID say that Microsoft Loves Linux.

Use FileSeek, it does the searching fine. More and more I've realized that Windows is also just a compilation of various programs put together to make a whole experience, no different to a Linux desktop environment. They keep downgrading pieces here and there, when I went from 7 to 10, the calculator suddenly has load time and some keyboard keys don't work (because I use a different keyboard layout, and they apparently hard coded it for qwerty, unlike the previous version that just worked and loaded instantly). You can fix some things with just finding different software. There comes a point where it's really not that different from what you'd have to do in Linux though, "so why not just use Linux?"

​​@@Aeroximadamn I thought the calculator was just on my end! Stuff was worse than I expected back then

Good question.

I would rather use Rover's notoriously trash search from Windows XP than any eternally on AI spy cam. Not even Apple was this bold with the client side scanning stuff.

I can't imagine that an AI-powered tool is able to search files faster than macOS' Spotlight, or any of the search applications available on Linux. And one of the biggest issues with Windows search has been how damn slow it is.

i think even 5 years ago it would be called that! honestly they word it so well that to normal users its sounds like an ok feature

Well, one upside to this feature is, there will be a DISA implementation guide for the US DoD that shows how to properly neuter that feature permanently. Microsoft *really* doesn't want to lose one of its biggest customers. Alas, that guide largely won't be available to the general public. :/ That all said, my personal systems are already Linux based and I only keep one Windows machine around for specific legacy work and formerly, for accessing some medical equipment that now only can be accessed by a smartphone.

It still is.

now it's ethical ' information collecting : p

Windows 13: you are lucky, we have 66.6% discount in our app store for you! Buy annual subscription now and be happy for us spying on you even more than ever! On all your devices, 24h/7, wherever you are!!

Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning Spyware system made useful by the Copilot, Microsoft 365 and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by the NSA.

A window into your daily mundane life.

Many computer users run a modified version of the Spyware system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Spyware which is widely used today is often called Windows, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Spyware system, developed by Microsoft.

This needs to be a thing. I need to read comments correcting people whenever someone says "Windows", saying "erm, achtusally what you call windows, is in fact spyware/windows..."

There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is a virus: the program in the system that doesn't help you and doesn't help the other programs that you run. The virus is a very pointless part of an operating system, but annoying by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with Spyware: the whole system is basically Spyware with Windows added, or Spyware/Windows. All the so-called Windows versions are really distributions of Spyware/Windows!

Not to mention companies would want to micro-manage their employees and track every second what the employee is doing, working or not, or watching youtube videos, or playing solitaire.

​@@konstantinrebrov675this is the real answer. companies will start requiring Windows 11 systems, ESPECIALLY for remote workers. Want a job? Share your Recall with the company or don't get hired. 100% guarantee it. This is just like when companies started requiring your personal Facebook password, except turned up ten million percent.

​@@konstantinrebrov675I'm curious to see if we end up having companies lobbying for legislation to change pay scales from per-hour to per-minute

Which is why they implemented it.

​@@konstantinrebrov675lol my call center that I work at for 3 dollars per hour doesn't even let us watch KZfaq videos lmao

The fact that apps can communicate to the OS what type of content is being displayed, always felt like a major security flaw to me.

@@ItsRyanStudios Why is that? Wayland has this content-type-v1 protocol that serves to hint the compositor what's being displayed. The types include: none, game, photo, and video. For example, if a game is running, the compositor may pass directly the content of the game to the GPU and not include the game content in the composition process, which would reduce latency.

thats a great catch imo. completely fluffed past that myself.

Actually, this is a VERY good point.🤔

The thing with DRM not being captured is that it is rendered directly to the screen via a "secure path" where the player sends stuff directly to the kernel, and then to the GPU, which renders to the screen. The media is end-to-end encrypted and the GPU and whichever output device you're watching on perform a handshake to check if they're HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) compliant and allowed to be played.

so much this

Microsoft is trying to use our pc's to train their LLM's

unless they ask "when will this come to linux"

As a Linux user... It's a pity Linux is shit. In fact it seems worse now than when I used it in the early 2000s.

@@xpusostomos Use OpenBSD if you don't like it.

What do you mean? Now there's gui and you're complaining?​@@xpusostomos

@@xpusostomosNot to me? It’s been making leaps in usability even over the last few years. Your comment seems really based on personal opinion. Many people also like to be part of a small group to be an irregular user or be “special”. Just use the best option is my opinion.

Here at Microsoft, we're proud of our history of hosting more malware and viral infections than any other OS in history, and we're building on that foundation into the digital future, with Recall. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

Weren't people saying decades ago, that Windows is written like a virus?

@@freecivweb4160 Brilliant mate 😂😂😂😂😂

I thought their "windows defender" malware was bad. They truly are one of the leaders of innovation in this field

TBH Apple is on par, it's just they'd rather be almost the only ones to make money with your data. Unfortunately I bet we'll still need win11 for many games/pro software... Dual boot is boring as hell, and VM... is only worth it if you have several GPU and passthrough one with also a good amount of cores... that's super annoying to put in place, and more often than not the motherboard don't support it well. Even if it worked great, you'd have to have a pretty beefy setup. Some hacker will probably release some win 11 versions without any of this recal stuff, but... I don't know... Damn ! F U Micro$oft !

That's how Microsoft has been acting since WIndows 8, at least. They always have their way in the end and users just keep bending over crying "I can't live without "xxx" app!" Oh yes you can, it's just that you don't want to try something else... ;)

@@dddux True there. I have tried to help people who only really use a browser to try Linux and they still say they need Windows. There's just no helping them.

@@config2000 ah yes, as Held der Steine keeps on saying: some people must be left behind.

Kind of like every government policy ever.

It's all stored locally, well hand over the machine then

@@BrodieRobertson And what about all those auto-backup to the cloud options?

Something tells me that they're not being honest about that. Consider the interpretations: 1: It's stored locally and it stays local.

I mean, if you're at the point where you're genuinely worried about a forensics team getting involved, you probably shouldn't be doing whatever it is that you're doing 😅 Plus a forensics team wouldn't need the recall feature, it would just make things a little easier for them is all. If this is a genuine concern for you, you wouldn't be using Windows to begin with. You'd be using TailsOS or something similar. Not that I'm a "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" type person, but this is a weak argument because the average person will never have this interaction. The BETTER argument is a hacker (ordinary criminal or state actor) gaining remote access to / control over your device. THEN it becomes a much more serious issue. This is why I'm not a "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" person, because the argument assumes that innocent people don't have legitimate reasons to hide things, when that's very demonstrably false. I'm not neccessarily hiding stuff from MY government, but I certainly want to hide it from every other government of the world (especially the more authoritarian ones), as well as every criminal hacker on the planet. That's really the argument we should be making because it will actually resonate with the average person that this is the WORLD wide web, and if your government can access that information, then so can every other govenment, including THEM *points at whatever country's government you trust the least* 😅

@@yosefmacgruber1920 need to send that diagnostic data from cloud 😂

Oh, come on now, you can trust Microsoft to only snoop on days that end in Y in English.

I had a similar thought with "Let's give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt"

lol I did exactly the same when win 11 came out, I even did it on my friend's machine and told him to never ever switch. this feature wasn't even on the horizon. I'm glad I did it bcause it's worst than even my worst nightmares

I've made a gpo to prevent the upgrade to win11

If you don't want to use Windows 11, *please* considering moving to Linux once 10 goes unsupported. We desperately need to limit the number of machines running unsupported versions of Windows.

@@SteelSkin667 I was already planning on ditching Windows after i finished my studies, so don't worry. My Desktop is already running Linux, btw.

What's TPM? Neeed to disable it too

So we need to ask businesses that we do business with, if they use Windows?

What do you mean "imagine"? Imagine a spoon being used to eat a bowl of cereal.

Why would they use a device, which almost no one but gamerz use, to generate a social credit score?

That is 100% the IDEA

Let me reassure everybody. Anyone using Linux will definitely not have a good social credit score.

CIA: "That's way more than we could have possibly thought you had."

CIA: "Why did you give us aa zip bomb?"

Btw, i really hope the CIA uses windows. That would be hilarious: "Give us the data" "Sure thing boss!" "Hey! This is our data!" "Oops"

​@@no_name4796and it just loops into itself because it keeps picking up the data it just sent too

@@C-aFilms better one: CIA: "Could you please compress it, instead of using something which makes the data size larger for no reason." Microsoft: "It is compressed." CIA: "What?"

🤣🤣🤣

W

Ive set up dual boot 2 months ago, and im thinking of wiping out windows 11. How is it on your end? Did you wiped windows or still on dual.boot?

@@ninoobejero614 I've been Windows Free for over a year now. There's give and take. But if you've been dualbooting for 2 months and it's been going well, and you don't particularly miss anything, as well as have had no hardware conflicts, then you've got nothing to lose by going all-in. If you want to be extra sure and haven't already been doing this already: go a full month without booting into Windows. If you feel tempted to boot into it, find out how you could do that thing on Linux instead, and after the month is up, make a list of everything you'd be giving up and decide if it's worth it.

Do you mean chromebook with windows installed on it? Also, Idk if this recall feature will be avaiable to every machine - Brodie mentioned something about NPU requirement for Copilot+ .

It limits to systems that have an NPU, so it doesn't apply to most of the systems

Windows? Running useless crap in the background that steals resources that can't be disabled? Never!

@@chrisblack6258 just wait till they screw up in a patch and it switches on. result all the systems that can't function with the extra baggage become paperweights. better still it likely will ignore the io priority shifting to system processes and cause programs and games to studder when it takes screen caps. os and system accounts are considered mission critical thus everything is delayed or pushed aside. also if this behavior was corrected in windows 11 I wasn't aware of it.

@@VSPhotfries That's the thing: IT CAN be disabled. It's not a mandatory feature of the OS.

it's been worse than red Star for over 8 years

I'd choose Red Star OS over Windows any day...

Red Star Windows

I reject the whole AI pitch. I keep yelling at my monitor: "HAVEN'T ANY OF YOU PEOPLE SEEN 'COLLOSUS: THE FORBIN PROJECT?'" That's what happens when you give AI instrumentality. How long is it going to be before a factory robot goes on a rampage and starts snapping necks?

I just hope they get leaked by this, not some innocent PC user! I really hope that

@@hopelessnerd6677 If I get a job as a AI robot operator, it will happen sooner rather than later. But a robot will not do anything it is not programmed to do. The robot will have to have some form of incentive to do it. But there's a bunch of ways that can happen which was not intended by human developers, operators, or programmers...

That's a perfect mentality though for being a Linux user. 😂 Believe me the fear mongers will fill you up with so much.. lol

We're pretty much all in this together. Which means that one with a paranoid disposition should try to de-individualize ones own paranoia. It isn't so much that these corporations are trying to get "me", or "you" or whomever. But that they are building machines that does not care about privacy. And in order to strengthen ones privacy, one could switch to Linux, use better browsers, and be a bit mindful. That goes a long way, and on a systemic level, advocate for privacy minded tech in the public space.

You don't have to use it, it isn't for you. It's for Microsoft and whoever they're fondling.

we should start repeating this more frequently: caring about privacy shouldn't be compared to paranoia to this degree. if anything, this tells more about their taboo of talking about mental health (treating someone as inferior or not worth listening to for having mental health issues).

@@kolz4ever1980 Not all of us are that way. Some of us are tinkerers. We like the fact that the lego blocks are all visible, and able to be rearranged at will.

It only took 41 years, but somebody finally referenced that song with the correct meaning in mind. Bless.

the 👮‍♀👮‍♀👮‍♀

♪oh can't you see.... you belong to me (your privacy data)♪

Imagine Microsoft actually using that song in advertising just to take the piss at people.

​@@AClockworkHellcat4...41? Uh oh

Good! I never logged in anyway! 🤣

Definitely does give a now meening to edging. 🙂

​@@autohmaeMicrosoft did that already a few months ago

i who use incognito for easy make a temp account on discord and not beacuse privacy:

Hehe.

That’s edgy!

The same cycle that exists for Linux users for different reasons

yeah, the frogs in the boiling pot will just sigh and keep soaking...

​@@xpusostomosWith Linux I can change anything I dont like. Linux and BSD for that matter allows it.

@@The_Wandering_Nerd The funny thing is that that's a myth-frogs on a pot of slowly boiling water *will jump out!*

Microsoft is going to Vista itself again?

This is exactly what I was thinking. And given that Riot is owned by Tencent, a Chinese company, well, you just let the CCP onto your computer!

I mean, if you have kernel-level access, you don't really need a separate mechanism to enable screen recording. But, Recall would give you the past three months' worth of data as well, so that's certainly... _heLPfuL_

We are legion. Expect us.

Vanguard already has (or had, this is fairly old information) a remotely-triggered system to take full-screen screenshots at any time without warning so I'm not sure how relevant one more vector is, but hey it sure is convenient

​@@kodicraftit also gives the last year's worth of data along, but yea.

She might be able to get the art software working on linux via Wine

She can do offline Windows workflow uninstalling Network cards on device manager... And then upload the files using Linux partition. Not the best workflow but probably a not so bad idea.

​@@mercurietecreative cloud doesn't work offline properly unless you crack it.

Has she tried krita? Its prob one of the best drawing programs let alone FOSS art programs thats also compatiable on linux!

@@thegoldenatlas753 Wine is really iffy. I'm sure that market share, or lack thereof, is why many major closed source desktop applications don't provide editions that run on Linux. Notably, closed source Oracle does, because Linux is so ubiquitous in the server world. But if enough people decide that desktop Linux is worth it, then other closed source applications will see the increased market and will port. There's nothing in Linux that isn't in Windows that could disassemble a binary blob. Will Windows become a verb which means "to shoot oneself in the foot by being too clever by half"?

As it's going to be accompanied by training data that's basically a binary blob, how could it be open source in that way?

​@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648With distibuting also dataset (or links to used data and list of checksums of every file) and training algorithm. But I agree that veryfying would become much harder if not impossible for regular users

@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Ye, but I was referring to when he said that he would love to use it if it was open source

In a way windows is already a DRM version of linux, OS-wise. I mean you have big restriction of what you can do with windows OS

>Add a registry entry to launch a browser on login. >Set the homepage to an Amazon web player. >All Microsoft will know is that you watch Jurassic Park multiple times a day.

WOOHOO it's the future ! Fun fact: You: "Give me that series I was watching on Netflix yesterday?" Recall: "I can't do that, Dave. It's DRM."

@@freecivweb4160 perfect 👌

@@freecivweb4160 Try screenshot any DRM-secured player in a browser (or it's own app, especially Netflix UWP) and you will know why Recall might still able tell you what movie you watch yesterday on Netflix.

I know. But I do go for cross platform applications whenever I need a new tool. That way I can go over to Linux in the future.

There's a whole lot of 1+1 = 2 in your statement that goes really deep. I wonder how many people will put one and one together.

I didn't even think about anticheat You've basically given a rootkit access to a live recording of your desktop

@@freecivweb4160 yeah, too many of these companies are relying on a really short consumer memory so they can pretend all their inventions or missteps happen in a vacuum, but taken together, as they should be, it adds up to a system you'd have to be crazy to use. I mean I get that there are some pieces of software (not just adobe and the like) that people actually can't live without and for which there aren't Linux alts, but at this point I'd be petitioning the software vendors or finding a way to live without. Windows just ain't worth it anymore.

Kubuntu looks so much like windows it's actually pretty painless. Until you have to find drivers for your old printers. I finally got there, though.

Or...just dont buy the Copilot + PC

personally switched from netbsd to snowdrop

good for you!

Why freebsd and not linux?

@@thegoldenatlas753 Because I was already encountering some weird things on Arch and was wanting to try out a BSD anyway. 😆

Because he was already on Linux and he realized that given 3 years somebody will implement this feature on Linux as well. So ee headed them off and jumped to FreeBSD where he will never have to deal with this as a possibility at all.​@@thegoldenatlas753

The beta for the driver update was just released, so its pretty imminent now!

If you still trying new ones, I suggest stay on one you kinda like and run Boxes. It's a great emulator and you can check out other distro faster that way. I did that and ended up with Fedora. I do music and video recording. I have 'not' done anything but record music on linux so far. That worked and just worked with fedora. I haven't figured out how to combine the obs and stuff yet though. I installed windows 10 on my laptop(lucky I have that) you can on hard drive also, but makes it harder for what I do. I installed it and the laptop never goes on the internet. Kinda hope I can get it all working on linux though

What is explicit sync?

the only thing I hate about Linux is that it loves to destroy the UEFI(BIOS) and ended up not booting up the BIOS when using Timeshift to go back, I just wish someone in the community will stop doing this lol I'm sure one of these days some who did the same thing will hate Linux because he cant boot up the PC anymore

@@Shrapnel_Music Nobara is based on Fedora and is meant for content creation and games, to have OBS and DaVinci Resolve working from the start

Welcome, penguin chick! Your rainbow knee-socks are in the mail.

I'm done... I'd rather suffer than subject myself to Microsoft's BS

Welcome. Do not allow the neckbeards to scare you away. Linux is not windows. The good and the bad parts are different. But using Linux is waaaaay more enjoyable than using windows at least in my experience. Also ... Nobody's experiences with Linux are equal. Have a nice time among us penguins

So you're telling me you've been fine with Microsoft spying on you for the last 20 years... But now that they've made their spying useful to you as the user and not *just* themselves... NOW you decide you don't want them spying 😅🤦‍♂️ pretty funny timing... Bro let me just tell you this co-pilot feature... I don't know what people think Microsoft is going to learn about users that they couldn't learn without implementing this feature - Newsflash! Microsoft has been spying on you for a long long long long long time and they're smart enough they don't need to take a screenshot to know what you're doing... The only thing that's changed with Copilot is Microsoft made their spying useful to you the user ALSO. Don't get me wrong I'm glad people are leaving Windows... But if you're leaving because of the Copilot feature I don't think you really understand how much you were spied on in the first place...

@@robnobert Neckbeard spotted

Gentoo. Trial by fire. Once you complete it, no distro or os can even compare to it's freedom.

​@@jeonghutamilim2259My point was that we *don't* want to be forging digital refugees in a crucible. We want to be welcoming them with open arms and rainbow knee-socks.

Switched to Fedora and never looked back. I would probably still recommend PopOS (when it's ready) or Mint, just because nearly all tutorials still use `apt`.

As a windows user who wants to leave the disgusting corporate OS Spyware/Windows soon i dont even consider these distros you suggest. Why? Because i dont want to depend on a corporate filled with telemetry distros like ubuntu (okay mint is a fork but still), popOS which is private/commercial or nobara aka fork of the big bad redhat's distro. So what would you suggest me then if not arch/artix/void?

​@@jeonghutamilim2259 I use Gentoo, Lost 2days compiling my system

that's what i gathered from that. A free platform for them to get all the meta data. With the excuse of it's in the EULA.

The business sector will LUUURRRRVE this feature, as it will allow them to easily track everything that employees do on their computers.

And then you have critical things like banks, hospitals, insurances, legal offices, where that feature can simply result in expensive legal battles, and all of the sudden, you've pissed off exactly the people that have the power to change laws...

​@seltsamerjunge3642 Yup I work in Insurrance in the EU and laws regarding Data security related to user infos is very strict. Any data that goes out of house has to be approved manually by a legal team. This thing would be a nightmare, same with ai it is not allowed in our Company for that reason.

Some businesses will say: no way and other businesses will very much want it and will love to run automated searches to euh... check things.

nah they made sure to tell us that admins will have some control over this which is why companies will go ga-ga over this, they too can watch what you're doing!

Something sus going on when feds need to look in to things.. ;)

The fun part will be to see what the feds start doing _for their own systems._ As Brodie mentions, this kind of tracking is a *nightmare* for anyone who works on confidential (or in this case: classified) projects.

And all of the kernel level anti-cheats made by Chinese companies on top of the adware! 😂

If her current disk has enough left over space, you could try shrinking the drive partition volume to make room for a second OS, and setup dual-booting. You'll likely have to use third-party software to do the shrinking however due to window's unmovable files. Linux Mint has guides about dual-booting.

Didn't you see? It allows you to set a blocklist-just make sure to be specific about which particular fetish sites it should know not to record, and it will happily comply... at least until the next Windows update.

​@@GSBarlevthen your kid hops on when you're not looking, looking for tentacle anime

@GSBarlev What's amazing is that after the first update, you will end up with giving microsoft both a list of things you don't want them to know, and also the things you don't want them to know. Aaaaaah, you gotta love progress! None of that terminal bs of linux (Jk, i use linux, and i basically use the terminal A LOT. Not because i need to, but it's just faster)

its these SATANIC HUMAN GIVEN government JOB TITLED TERRORIST TYRANT CRIMINALS THAT WANT THIS = SCAMMERS

Blushing Ralsei spotted

huh... that pc you found at the dumpster is actually better then the one I have currently ._.

8.10 Ubuntu was my first distro , then Debian 5.0. I tried Pop but I hated it. As of now, I am using Fodora on a vm, but Ubuntu for now is my main unless I decided to something cooler in the future amd by cooler I mean build Linux from scratch.

​@@ishkar5kYou will be forced to. Unless you're a datacenter wrangler, any entry-level position will require interfacing with end users who will all universally use Windows PCs, because that's what the business gets. If you get lucky, you might be in a Mac centric workspace where they share some common DNA, but not much else.

@@davidmalkowski7850 I think you hit the wrong reply

Data: "I have a complete record of the events..."

Also, assuming for a moment that this thing *really* is locally hosted... approximately what amount of (SSD / hard drive) storage-space will it take up, and what kind of performance-impact (due to constant read/write activity going on in the background) would it have on *other* software running locally that needs to use the local filesystem?

​@@The_Lawnmower_ManI wouldn't be concerned about the passive performance impact; I don't believe it's any more demanding than pressing PrntScr on your keyboard. My primary concern is the CPU usage on any system that doesn't meet the NPU requirements, because of course this will make it's way to all PCs through Windows Update in due time.

that's because DRM is black box magic entirely designed against the customer. Microsoft and the companies have the keys to it and you and anyone normal never will.

DRM content has always been treated in a special way by the OS. That's why you only get a black background when trying to record Netflix in your browser. The UI controls still show, just not the actual content. So there is no fancy heuristic or anything, because the DRM content is clearly marked as such for the OS.

@@Dosenwerfer Wait, that's why? I just thought it was buggy and sometimes certain things didn't show up in screenshots. I just used other programs.

KZfaq deleted my comment. It told the truth. DRM isn't for the end user. It's for the megacorp.

​@@Dosenwerfer That's not an excuse. If the AI is oh-so-advanced, there's no reason they can't differentiate between a password prompt and normal text boxes

Till the hundredth monkey 💯🐒tires of it

😂😂

"Valorant" LOL

:-)

Would it surprise you if I said that some people I know would actually say that?

Yeah, i also need closed source software running at the highest privilege level on my machine, with no possible checks done on it. I mean, if you install windows, you already are doing that, but let's ignore this fact lol

Oh, you'll see some "content moderation" if you say something negative about the clot $hot.

"We're taking care of the big giant corporations and their IP. We won't store that! But your passwords and banking info? Nah. That's just too much work."

Yay, finally I found someone in the wild who also spells Micro$oft with the dollar sign :)

@Lampe2020 Dude, language. Kids may be reading this! Write W*****s instead! /s

@@YourIdeologyIsDelusional Some people will die if they take an aspirin.

Yes, I should have bought a bag of deluxe toenails from him. If only I had. The missed opportunity.

​@@musicalneptunian reguardless of his manners he was not wrong about most of these companies lol.

That is what bothers me the most about Stallman - theres' a long list of... well, to use a HUGE euphemism "inappropriate behaviors" that he did (and unfortunately, I also saw a few of my own, in person); at the same time, when I read his short story "The Right to Read", written in 1997, I though "eh, this man is crazy, we won't ever get to this point". And yet... we're getting close. Supposedly his story happens at year 2047, and while his dystopian society won't probably happen the way he described, we have closed hardware where repairing (or even debugging the issue) is forbidden to almost everybody except authorized people, and we're getting to the point of closed hardware that you can't install alternate operating systems. The only thing that Stallman got very wrong, now that I'm re-reading the story, is that in it it seems that multiple people are unhappy with that; what I see, usually, is the opposite - people praising companies for closing stuff and stealing our data without permission...

Stalman is the same guy who eats goo from his feet.

Windows 10 is the last version of Windows.

@@Aeroxima windows 7 was. Windows 10 is and always was bad and spys on you worse than you can already imagine and that was upon its launch. You are deluding yourself otherwise. The thing is now people are actually beginning to realize it, just decades too late

yup I'm running it till eol and then linux time baby

Partly because it's very abstract and invisible. It's harder for some people to conceptualize. "Out of sight, out of mind"

Well, I am a student and using (arch) Linux on my Mac (MacBook Pro mid 2012, good ol' intel macs) because macOS is sooooo slow. Started with Ubuntu on a second laptop, then switched over to Ubuntu on main computer, some time after that got arched. Already made it through many DEs (started with GNOME, then switched to KDE, then Hyprland, then River, and now back at GNOME with Forge Tiling). I tried installing LFS one time on a 32GB usb stick. GCC checking in chroot failed because of full disk. I'll probably retry it with better hardware (for faster compilation) and a real disk.

Windows is like religion these days. Everybody just kinda does it by default, and never gives it a minutes thought. Privacy and security should be a required class in school.

@@hopelessnerd6677 True. Would be cool if schools just used Linux. However, some universities do.

Wait until people's screenshots of shady weird porn shit gets leaked. They'll be plenty to laugh about.