very good retrospective, always love your videos and this is yet another banger i think you should take a long lap now

I think Geometry Dash would’ve been a great addition to this video

Ok, so I know that you covered FUSER and mentioned Harmonix being bought out, but it seems like you may be unaware that since it's "death" FUSER is now technically Abandonware on PC and has an extremely in depth mod community that is importing more and more new stems for songs that were never in the original. You actually used a clip of Acai during the Clone Hero portion and thats the other game he's been getting big views from, the FUSER mashup videos he makes are great and he does exactly what you suggested by taking tips to show off fan mixes with a weird numbering system he and his stream have come up with. FUSER died and became amazing as a zombie game, and though you can no longer buy it... its simple to aquire and no one can sue you for doing so as it's Abandinware. I only bring this up because you %100,000 nailed what its become seemingly unaware of that being the case for it now.

@@pet-purple-panda1634 oh I am 300% checking this out Unrelated, I'm sad that In The Groove got only such a brief mention, especially with regards to its long-running mod community, including the Mungyodance project which was a huge part of my rhythm game experience.

​@@pet-purple-panda1634 Yeah Acai's fuser streams are an absolute treat.

Yeah, this was a punch to the gut. Too disrespectful

Yeah, and no talk of newer arcade games!

True but tbh he probably doesn't know much about the vocaloid scene? So it's probably better he kept it brief then say info that's incorrect

@@htsunmiku I agree with previous commenter - he should've discussed at least *some* of the modern rhythm games in arcade. The genre is still well and alive there. Also, to discuss the rhythm game genre and just brush off vocaloid and Project Diva's impact is pretty disingenuous. We all know this was really just a video about the history of guitar hero.....😉

@@moejuggler6033 oh I mean not talking about the entirety of that side of the genre is werid but I also feel like he focused on series he personally has experience withn(and also heavily skewed to the western music game side and/or games that got big in the west)

FRRRRRR

😭

that's what happens when a grand majority of rhythm games weren't advertised or accessible to a western audience

Guitar hero was very popular during the mid-late 2000s, i got nostolgic on this video too

i literally came here to hear him talk about project diva

You sup camellia!!!

Thank you Camellia very cool songs in Dancerush🔥

omg it's the guy

The western market of Rock Band and Guitar Hero probably feels really weird from the perspective of the Japanese/Asian market. It's somewhere around in the comments, but I lamented (but also kind of understood why) the lack of focus on that market in the video. For someone from that market, this video is probably a lot more interesting due to the isolation language- and geographic-wise than to someone looking for "rhythm game video essay" already knowing about the existence of things like SOUND VOLTEX and other "modern" games out of Japan. Oh, and also this "someone who somehow got involved in the industry as a composer" named Camellia. :P (PS since I already shouted you out earlier in the comments, your music is great and also inescapable when it comes to SDVX/etc. Run from it, dread it, Camellia boss songs arrive all the same.)

I didn't expect camellia commenting on this video :0

And some of them are japanese games, I mean most of them are at the core rhythm games, no matter the mix of content (I say this because I play Idolmaster Million Live, and also a new arcade machine has been announced, off just for Japan)

@@elrinconcuriosodesally3528 Rayark dominated my rhythm game consumption in the 2010s. Cytus (1 and 2), Deemo and Voez were mindblowing when i first started playing them.

he did mention some though

@@krbraveofficial True, but despite showing maimai in the intro, he never went into the more modern arcade scene, and BeatMania is -extinct- now Beatmania IIDX (forgot about that series)

Right?! Deemo? Cytus? Anything from Rayark tbh. Fantastic rhythm games that weave in story in a beautiful and heartfelt way.

There's a TV show in Japan where people compete to play that taiko drum game without being able to see the screen. Obviously they have to get a perfect score, and they have to do two songs, and both songs are incredibly hard (although they can choose to do them in whichever order). The reward is actually quite high, around 7500 USD, but I've never seen anyone win. I've also seen all sorts of people from young to old playing rhythm games in various small arcade areas in department stores or malls--I try to avoid actual arcades because I don't want tinnitus.

I'm surprised that in one hour video this guy didn't mention Osu!, also DDR was pretty important in the scene for just a little commentary about it. Seems like this guy just care about Guitar hero and Rock Band.... LOL

@@nine1kidhe did talk about osu in the end

That just sounds like a round about way of saying they've died out.

SAME LMAO

yeah, was expecting o2jam to be in this video but only got western console game history.

fr, there was nothing on arcade rhythm games really, like going more into ddr, pump it up, and then chunithm, ongeki, maimai, groove coaster, etc

@@kurogane2x was o2jam really that prolific though? there are like 20 games I'd think of before it including stepmania

​@@Cobalt985 o2jam used to be EXTREMELY popular it was the go to 7 key online rhythm game back in the day before it was imported to steam and turned into the garbage it is now.

Yeah gotta admit i just skipped until the last segment once i saw on the progress bar the rest was just now GH and RB. Like i was a kid back then, i know they were a huge deal but a video titled "history of rhythm games" had me thinking "great an in depth run down of one of the most fun genres with many series i wanna see discussed more online". Only to be met with 40 minutes of an hour long video being a Guitar Hero documentary. Definitely took me out of it.

after this video I'll never want to hear about guitar hero again 😭

I know they're not popular games, but geometry dash and ADOFAI could be mentioned as they have very unique gameplay

Yeah, I enjoyed the video but as a fan of Japanese rhythm games, when I watch a video called "the history of rhythm games" I'm expecting a mix of both the Japanese and western side, not spending 50 mins on guitar hero and rock band and only saying "oh yeah there's the washing machine game, and DDR and that's all"

@@TheKing-cb3kl same

this guy is really the scott the woz of music

scott the woz except he doesn't think donkey kong jungle beat is virgin

Mic the rhythm pad

I’m playing it, but as a fan translation! Look up Rhythm Heaven Silver, it’s really cool! The translation and localization is great and there’s even english graphics.

Yes! Agreed! I've been playing it on my GB micro with the English patch and it's incredibly fun (and hard). I'm trying to wrestle through the final stages currently.

i believe it was also the last game to be officially released for the gba. may have something to do with why we never got an english localization.

boooooo, even Rockband for PSP was better than those underdeveloped turds

Yes this!!

This! I was waiting to see if he was gonna mention them lol

Patapon was one of the coolest and most unique games of my childhood. Super surprised it wasn't in this video as it is one of the only games I know of (besides the now Crypt of the Necrodancer) to introduce a rhythm game with an RPG. I think it is still the only game to introduce it in that way

One game I'm a bit surprised he didn't mention is actually Unplugged: Air Guitar. I haven't actually fact-checked this, but I heard one or more of its developers are actually related to Guitar Hero or Rock Band (one of the two), and when I played it I thought it was actually pretty neat. I never got much into it though, which I feel is mainly because I am more used to and interested in the Japanese and EDM side of rhythm games than the punk and rock side that everyone else in west is familiar with

The amount of data and resources that feature used is actually the reason why the game has the simple line and vector art style!

Scrolled down to find this comment

whaaat thats awesome!!!

found this comment as soon as i made my own talking about it. its a genuine shame Vib Ribbon is so obscure and only had a brief uptick on tiktok for how ""creepy"" it was.

That's like, the entire appeal of the game, for most people. Crazy for it to be glossed over.

Hey snares, Mic here

Hahaha yes some got it some one new about scott

I miss him so much

Mic the Woz

I made his joked literally the day the video came out before it came out saying how he is just like the music version of Scott the woz(who is my favourite KZfaq so not a bad thing.) Now it is true.

I could hardly beer it.

Don't forget Rotaeno, it's like the spin rhythm but instead you play it with rotating your phone

I was expecting them too, especially after talking about osu

I'm surprised he didn't bring up geometry dash

can't forget stepmania either

​@@_mikkimoose_ because it isn't a rythmn game it's a "rythmn-based action platformer" game

Another side note about vib-ribbon; it has two sequels that are completely different from the original. Vib-Ripple isn't a rhythm game but Mojib-Ribbon is a rhythm game about Japanese calligraphy and rap music. Interesting thing to look into even if it's very reliant on the Japanese language so it might be a bit difficult for English speakers

​@@petergotbored9306 It also used a tts engine.

@@petergotbored9306 The problem would be that the gameplay would be heavily altered to accommodate non logographic languages and a new TTS engine would have to be licensed to account for the different languages.

Let’s thank Japan again for basically all our digital media entertainment.

How tf is the thing it's literally designed for (the entire game fits into the RAM for a reason) a *side mode*???

What are your top 3 mobile rhythm game recs?

​@@Cuix For me, the three rhythm games that I would recommend are definitely Arcaea, Phigros, and Lanota, with the three having their own sets of pros and cons. First is Arcaea, which is a four-lane 3D rhythm game with the main gimmick being that it has "arcs" (that are commonly for the left hand and the right hand, which are generally color-coded as blue and light red respectively) that you need to press and hold alongside the standard normal notes, hold notes, which is basically a long note, and "sky notes", which are basically notes but are above the lanes. Unlike the other two, Arcaea has no "flick notes", which are notes that not only needed to be pressed, but you also needed to be flicked in a certain direction. The game, however, has song charts (or song beatmaps if that's the term you're familiar with) that requires certain technical skills, like crosshands (which from my understanding basically means that you need to strategically place your fingers on certain positions in order to hit the notes) and/or using more than two fingers (There are also song charts which has six lanes instead of four, but that's later on in the game). That's why it advertises itself as a rhythm game with a "high skill ceiling". Most songs can either be played without being purchased, can be obtained through progressing on time-limited event maps, or can be obtained by purchasing them through "song packs", or by themselves. The game has Main Story Packs and Side Story Packs, all which has different stories in them about the different characters in them, and all can be progressed by meeting certain requirements while playing their featured songs. Moreover, in most of the Main Story Packs, they all sport an "Anomaly Song" as the pack's last song, which has certain requirements needed in order for you to unlock them. Two exceptions on this are "Adverse Prelude", which is more like a side story pack acting as a main story one; and the game's final pack, with most of its song charts are called "Terminal Songs", which requires even more technical requirements in order to unlock. I wouldn't spoil anything about the Story Mode, aside from what I already spoiled, but I would say that it is great, and hard. There are also other things that I want to talk about, but this is already getting so long, so I wanted to move on to the next game. Overall, Arcaea is a game with great visuals and a great set of different strories to tell. Next is Phigros, which is a free lane 2D rhythm game. The good thing about this game is that unlike the other two, this is a completely free game, with the songs and their charts only needing to be "purchased" using the in-game currency, which can be obtained by completing song charts and having a score of A or above, in order to be unlocked, which is honestly surprising, considering that the other rhythm games are either required to be purchased first with real money, or are free to play games but has in-app purchases like Arcaea. There are four notes that you need to remember in this game: normal notes, catch notes, which are yellow notes that, for me, behave similarly to Arcaea's arcs but are much easier to deal with, hold notes, which are much more sensitive compared to Arcaea's, and flick notes, which in this game, can be flicked in any direction. For the gameplay, it's honestly similar to other rhythm games, aside from the fact that it has a judgement line, which is where you need to tap the notes. The judgement line, depending on the song chart, can either move on top, right, or left of your device (with the bottom being the default placement of the judgement line); can multiply or even vanish. One of the great things about this game, is that the charters can get creative in utilising its features, making each song charts, even in their respective difficulties, unique. The only caveat for me about this game, and the next one that I will talk about, is that in the higher difficulties, especially on INSANE and ANOTHER difficulties, the song charts usually require three to six fingers in order to play (I say this because I'm not really that good at using more than two fingers, and I'm more of an Arcaea player than a Phigros player, so take this with a grain of salt). Another disappointing thing about this game is that you can't connect it to google play, and are rather required to log-in by typing either a phone number registered in China, or by typing your email from a Google Play-like app called TapTap. You also need to have downloaded the game from TapTap, so there's that. So if you don't have an email from TapTap and have downloaded the game through it, or you don't have a phone number from China, then you basically have no normal way to save your game data. The game also has a story, but are presented more like an anecdote in a database and not story-like. Overall, still a very great game, especially for a free one. Finally, is Lanota, which is a rhythm game in which you would play on basically is in a circle(?). This is the game that I'm least familiar with, since I only played it because of the KZfaqrs that I follow played it. I was also deterred from further playing it (only playing a handful of since the game itself is a free trial version, and you need to purchase it so that you wouldn't get any ads (You can still play it, but you would need an internet connection to play, and you also need to let an ad play on very chart that you would like to play). Aside from that and the fact that there are certain song packs that you need to purchase, the whole story mode from what I know is basically free (Of course, you still need to complete the chapters in order to progress to the next one). One of the reasons I also played it is because of the visuals, and because it is story-driven. The main story is divided into different chapters, and for every chapter, they all have "Boss Songs", and the way they introduce these boss songs are seriously epic and cool, not to mention that the story that it has so far is very interesting and compelling for me. For the game's difficulty, I would say that my knack for it is similar to Phigros, and that its high difficultly charts requires more than 4 fingers to play. Once again, this is just a me issue, so if that's something you won't mind, then go ahead and disregard my petty argument. Of course, this is just three of my favorite ones, but these are the first ones that would usually come to my mind when recommending someone what rhythm game to play. Thank you so much for coming to my very, very long TED talk!

Another Mobile Rhythm game that I love would be Noisz Starlivht. It's both a Rhythm Game and a Avoidance at the same time! It has many cool things, like different characters with different styles, with each of them having different stats, effects, and a level-up system, it has a practice mode that allows you to start on any verse (every song has 2-4 verses usually) and not worry about death, and it even has a Rouge-like mode that has you fight songs that are not only randomly chosen, but get harder each wave in order to build a custom style. Because of the fact that you both play a rhythm game and dodge bullets at the same time, it can lead to some really insane charts! If you get an S on a song on hard by getting all verse stars (you must beat a verse without taking damage from anything. They are saved even if you are done with a song), you unlock Overload mode for that song. It requires multiple fingers to survive, and has charts that are crazy hard. One song especially is so hard that it puts the final boss of Arcaea to shame! And the crazy part is, the game's only halfway finished.

@vee3732 oh shit, the detail! tysm!

There's also the PC based rhythm games as well.

I think I was recommended this video because I recently was relistening to the OST, and I was a little bummed it wasn't even mentioned because 1 & 2 were my top fave childhood games and the music is still strong.

An underrated gem!

FUSER and Dropmix are also real neat for that.

They straight up fueled a lot of the early mashup genre

Yeah I’ve made a handful of mashups casually and Rock Band stems are a godsend. They’re possibly the single biggest source of stems out there.

Neil Cicierega even mentioned those games as a big source of the mashups on his albums, so without these games we might not have had his classic, intricate mashup albums.

And then Green Day Rock Band happened- (if you don’t know, a lot of the early Green Day stuff had to have the stems kinda fudged with AI to get them separated)

I LOVE rhythm/music games. I'm 44, I've played every music games available to me. I've even build a metal dance mat for my PS2, what a blast back then. The only music games I still play on a regular basic is : OSU! Welcome to Osu!.

Nick's done a couple Part 2s, so maybe in the future he can cover some missed examples.

Dance Dance Revolution

as "popular" as Osu is, it also wouldn't have been a thing if it wasn't for Stepmania, one of the original simulator rhythm games that started the whole thing (alongside Lunatic Rave 2) and I remember a lot of the first charts of Osu came from the early remnants of the Stepmania community. And it's even more mind-boggling there was no mention of Stepmania here at all, considering how influential it was in the early western "simulator" rhythm games genre. He even mentions ITG once in passing but never brings it up again as it was a very important part of DDR's history with the lawsuit and everything.

Geometry Dash is different in that we don't use the music or rhythm in order to play the game and beat levels, especially in harder and faster levels where we don't even react anymore, it's all muscle memory, memorizing click patterns. Geometry Dash is more of a "music platformer" than a rhythm game, so I 100% understand why it wasn't mentioned at all.

And shout out to Acai and some other channels for keeping the FUSER contents alive and popular

@@sihamhamda47 hell yeah dude Acai was literally how i got back into the game after dropping it back when it was active

@@sihamhamda47 Acai's clip mashing up Astronaut in the Ocean with Chop Suey was how I discovered FUSER modding was a thing and it was such a perfect way to find out

All I wanted when Fuser was alive was mod support. It really saved this game in the nick of time, arguably made it better than ever, even if it couldn't save the servers.

My man did not give Hatsune Miku enough screen time. Love the difficultly and presentation. Looks crazy, plays super nice.

I've never heard of Project Project Dxxx and now I want to try it. Also, hello. (ﾉﾟ▽ﾟ)ﾉ

@@ZaneChihuahua Hello, it's nice to see you here!

Always wanted a sequel... would still play one now, despite being 40 lol. I genuinely still hum and whistle the Sanbone Trio song... and Flying O... and Mojo-Mojo-Mojo King Bee... and... Come to think of it, the majority of them.

I’m going to do a video of the whole game just editing it currently 😭

Patapon is CRIMINALLY underrated. It's such a unique game that I'm surprised hasn't spawned any spiritual successor games yet (outside of Project Jabberwocky and Patapon 4). And the music has stuck with me for years, and it will never escape PATA PATA PATA PON

Patapon was fantastic

this!! i played this game with my brother a lot when I was younger (tho never progressed much because I wasn't any good) but I was surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video 😁

I was waiting for him to bring it up! I was obsessed with this as a kid

I literally forgot that game "Patapon" was around speaking of that I never heard of it lol.

Omg the music levels in Rayman Legends were easily the best levels. So much fun. Bit trip runner is in a similar vein but the moving backgrounds on top of the fast character movement made me ill

The Rayman ones were SO FUN

he did give awards to video game soundtracks in his best of 2022 video so it checks out. makes me happy to see him expanding content like this

A spiritual successor was announced. It's called Project Jabberwocky by the TVT (Tokyo Virtual Theory) studio. Two of the three main directors of Patapon will direct the project.

@@franciscovelasco5422 it's something at least

I don't think people realise how much of Mic's regular audience (including me) would click off if this video had a 20 minute Hatsune Miku section

just shapes and beats was the first game i bought when i got a switch! i love how clean and original it is, it really is a masterclass in visual design and visual storytelling. and their latest free expansion had undertale's spider dance for the final boss!

Another game I'd reccomend for JSaB fans is Project Arrhythmia! It's a game that by complete coincidence has the exact same mechanics as JSaB, but this one actually has a level editor and the community has released some excellent levels!

aha! I knew i’d find some fellow JSAB/PA fans here! great games lol.

id highly reccomend noisz

Like geometry dash, i dont think jsab is a rhythm game because its just a bullet hell game really. Still a good music game tho

i would argue that dancerush is more technical than ddr, since to get really good at it, you basically have to learn how to properly shuffle dance

Love to see this brand synergy

Ya this guy really half assed his hw

@@j_eezus_christ_bro_chill bro just wanted an excuse to do a guitar hero essay 😭

kkclue has a couple good videos covering ddr and beat mania!

agreed on the lack of bemani, but i am relatively biased. the advent of certain games in bemani in the niche they filled are worthy of several documentaries in and of themselves. incredibly strange and insane lore spanning multiple decades. not to mention the entirety of the KR scenes advent. good video overall though.

Creator used to work for Harmonix! do u listen to Lightning Bolt lol

atta boi

I'm surprised Mad Rat Dead didn't get a mention in the video. I know it's not super well known, but it came out just a few years ago on the Switch and has a fairly active fan base, so it's not like it's lost to time.

Absolutely agree

out of curiosity, would you be able to recommend any mobile rhythm games? i'm not familiar with any

it's almost as though this is an english-speaking channel and not a japanese one

As a huge djmax fan I'm very disappointed. The franchise is so good it deserves more spotlight

I had already been playing guitar for a little over 10 years when I found RS, and it really helped me develop my skills beyond the plateau I felt I had hit years before. I've even used it to shift over and discover just how insanely fun Bass can be to play. And yeah, the CDLC scene just adds absolutely immeasurable value.

My only _slight nit-pick_ is that I mostly play a 5-string bass. IF you can find a CDLC with a 5 or 6 string arrangement, it appears as "Rhythm Guitar"... which means you have to skip the tuner... which is fine as my bass is in tune, but, just irks me not being able to see it.

I still play rocksmith 2014. I started as a seriously mediocre bassist, and am now a fairly good bassist. Really helped with my development on the instrument

Yeah Bust a Move/ Bust a Groove ( 1, 2, and Dance Summit) had amazing soundtracks, fun gameplay, memorable characters, and dance moves! Series started in 1998 so it was just after Parappa

When that game came out I was still at school as a young teenager. Me and a mate would tie our school ties around our heads, unbutton the top few buttons of our white shirts and bust out Hiro moves in my bedroom whilst listening to (for some reason) White Lines and Rappers Delight. Man, we were cool kids, lol. Great games though.

Played it last year, big time vibe

Hell yeah, Bust a Groove 1 and 2 are still some of favorite video games to this day, the soundtrack is legendary (specially the original japanese songs)

super fun game especially for kpop fans, especially if you just enjoy playing and listening to the music, recommend it 100%. But if you focus on collecting cards and the leaderboards, the whaling is crazy, it's a dangerous money drain.

Oh wow cool, well as long as your wallet stays closed lol. Only Korean rhythm game I ever played was DJ Max on the PSP in 2008 and that was only because they did a collab with the only K-Pop group I listen to, Clazziquai. I still listen to the songs from the game time to time and wish I could replay it on 4-button mode at least without destroying my thumb lol.

​@The Dynast Queen DjMax is still going too. The newest one is DjMax Respect V for ps4 and pc. It's super fun plus all the old songs are on there as well 😊

Yeah like Konami has a huuuuge library of both successful games and unsuccessful games(Parapara paradise, DanceManiax/Dace freaks, etc.)

CAMELLIA + FRUMS

The home games and BMS I'd love to see discussed but arcade games like Voltex really rely on either having the peripheral or having an arcade with the supplemental hardware. Korean games as well have their own discussions that aren't too easy to cover unless you were playing at the time or you take the same route as Tokaku for the O2Jam video, having a way to learn about it directly from people who were there. Modern BEMANI is hard to find in arcades outside of Dave & Busters and Round1, and if you want an online cab in the US you gotta be ready to possibly travel multiple states over to a Round1 or a Dave & Busters if you only want to play DDR. There's the argument that you can get the hardware to play yourself with the home versions of various BEMANI games and simulators, but that's not exactly an entry point. You'd essentially be dropping $200 *minimum* for a GAMO2 controller on any of the games and the price hikes up from there depending on if you want to play the official home releases or better/arcade accurate buttons. If you know the other option, it's not a super approachable experience either unless you're very tech literate to begin with. Again, BMS and various mobile and standalone indie rhythm games I'd love to see touched on, and even just a basic summary from RemyWiki on BEMANI and passing mention of Korean games would be cool. But for the last two, if you want some substantial content about them, that's a really big ask and it may take over a year to get beyond just a basic history video with no real experience or your typical "Newcomer Thoughts".

I have an arcade nearby that only opens on weekends and you pay an entry free but every game is put on free play and the collection of Rythmn Games is pretty good and that's where I discovered Chunithm which is probably my favorite Rythmn Arcade alongside WACCA which is from Marvelous.

@@Cane-Aubright Yeah, valid. From a music perspective the divide between RB/GH is equally cavernous (imagine trying to link Dragonforce's TTFAF with something like Camellia's Blastix Riotz - ow my neck), so if anything the music side of BMS would be more interesting than the game side in a sense, which often feed into these games anyway.

you forget Phigros which recently got big banger chapter 8 update and another SEGA rhythm game Ongeki AKA Bullet Hellish rhythm game but yeah most of the list is solid

I can't comment too much personally, but both my brothers and my father SWEAR by RockSmith for practicing and learning new songs. I never could get the hang of the interface, but three out of four is still a pretty good recommendation and I'd 100% recommend at least trying it out if you have the chance.

Oh yeah I loved playing rocksmith tbh the main reason I stopped playing it is cus it's really buggy with bass. Unless I'm playing Primus or Spoonman the game just goes all wonkey and thinks I'm at the 12th fret when I'm fingering 4. Maybe it's the game, maybe it's my bass, maybe it's me, who knows? And since I stopped playing rocksmith, it's gotten difficult to read lmao At least I learned Everlong :D

same here, i started learning with it and it is super nice but there comes a point where learning without it becomes more efficient and free

he needs to make a part 2, who makes a vid like this without geometry dash

@@j_eezus_christ_bro_chill hell, I could make an entire video about geometry dash and an hour wouldn't be enough

Do you think Rock Band or Guitar Hero can make a comeback.

@@adeptdamage3669 Yeah I think they could, but I also don't think they would ever reach the levels of popularity they reached in the late 2000's. The gaming industry as a whole has changed dramatically since then, and even since 2015 when they did their first reboot, but I think they could still carve out a niche in today's market.

@@aWiseMoose Maybe not as popular in the late 2000's is a good thing considering how oversaturated it became. My idea for bringing Guitar Hero back is a much ore story focused experience (with actual cutscenes.) Where you play as a custom character who joins a band a guitar player where the GH characters Axel Steel, Judy Nails, Lars, etc. are bosses you have to defeat to progress. Though the biggest hurdle would be getting people to buy the controllers.

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​@BIIIIG BODDY hey it's you and moose

Totally agree

Rocksmith+ just came out last year. Rocksmith/Rocksmith 2014 are the older ones

LOVED tap tap revenge

I came to the comments for this lol. Tap Tap Revenge was HUGE

completely!!!!! sif was my main intro to rhythm games and it quickly became one of my favorite genres. now i'm a project sekai player HAHAHAHA

Same lol. Started Project Sekai recently and it brings back so many memories SIF, including the hellish tiering 😂 Flick notes are my bane tho

​@@tobitimesthree the love live to bandori to pjsk pipeline

love live sif 2 is coming out globally later this year, I'm already playing the Japanese release though id say the gameplay feels a lot less clunky, and it's so much fun to play all the maps I remember as well as the songs from newer groups stuff like gacha and actually levelling the cards is probably even more grindy tho

seriously tho!! started playing that last year and never got super into it, but it was super sad opening it and seeing it was dead!