It was *SO* satisfying to hear that line

Celebrimbor is a hoe for how he did talion

Bad move for Celebrimbor+Eltariel, but better for Middle Earth. Like Shelob reveals to Talion, had it been him there Sauron would have fallen but Celembrimbor would have taken his place and be *worse*

That voice of that ghost... No... Could it be?... Alastair Duncan

where is that line ??? i wasnt able to find it....

Talion was weak anyways

@@GR-ej9my say that to the 20 years of being a ring-wraith, ignoring its temptations and fighting the war alone

@@XxSUPEREVILNZxX I know. Talion was the key factor here. With Eltariel, Celebrimbor failed to dominate Sauron. But Talion would've succeeded.

@@XxSUPEREVILNZxX Make that 60 years.

Elves man, greedy bastards

Sauron: "Isildur was right. This *is* fun!"

i wonder if isildur was looking at the battle from heaven or werever he was and thought: "that motherfucker stole my move!"

''what an uncreative piece of darkness stealing my trick''

Oof

Nice to see the bad guys learning from past experiences, isn't it? Wouldn't have happened if Celebrimbor stayed merged with Talion though, that ranger would've just dropped the hammer on Sauron's ass.

P&WJsmith4liberty I think galadriel knew eltariel would become evuk.

Who?

@@nico114334 Yeah who?

@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 galdriel is like the elf queen lady

@@skavanagh2778 I know who Galadriel is... I was asking about Elt-something, the one mentioned in the original post.

Funny thing is, the witch king was more of a friend to him than Celebrimbor was

@@sukitron5415 ikr, he still keep the invitation to "The Nine" club open even after Talion beat the shit out of him and took his city.

@@thecommentguy9380 He even waited for Talion to finish everything he had to before pulling the plug. Dude literally kept his spot open for 60 whole years, and after getting their collective asses kicked on more than one occasion.

@@sukitron5415 Neither Sauron, the WK, nor any of the others ever lied...

@@rickacton7540 tbh truth is usually worse than the lie

Talion was near perfect man I hope we see him again truly a badass.

Talion was Celebrimbor’s equal as a warrior, by far his biggest mistake was betraying him.

@@Rtr-oh1mz i do too he such an amazing character made me so sad seeing how they did him dirty he didnt deserve that

@@jackdubs25​​⁠​⁠not even close. Talion was a peerless human warrior, but compared to a master warrior and craftsman who lived for literal millennia Talion doesn’t have a chance. The only reason he was capable of performing the feats he could in game is because of the ring(s) of power he had and celebrimbors spirit possessing him. In game canon, celebrimbor is capable of holding sauron in a stalemate, there is no way he and talion are even remotely on the same level. Eltarial vs Talion is a different matter, but celebrimbor is leagues beyond either of them

@@Rtr-oh1mzTechnically we do, he is one of the nine in LOTR.

@@ChEILoZ They just said that my guy, your comment is irrelevant.

his comment was so irrelevant it disappeared

The games contradict nothing, they just expand on it. It's as canon as anything else: as much as you want it to be.

@@reidparker1848 For the film they work somewhat. For the Book, it's so contradictory it's ridiculous beyond belief.

@@reidparker1848 THEY CONTRADICT A LOT, ACCEPT THAT BITCH!

Why tho?

@@JeremyPuaso because Talion and Celebrimbor connection made them more stronger than Sauron before Talion took isildur’s ring and battled the witch king, Shelob told Talion that if he would have still been celebrimbor’s vessel and battled Sauron the outcome would have been completely different. Talion would be the new bearer of the new ring leading celebrimbor’s army to conquer middle earth and just like how Sauron absorbed celebrimbor and became the eye of Sauron instead celebrimbor would absorb Sauron because the blue eye on bara dur

I still say halo reach has it with current objective survive

@@Emma-fb3ti Naw, Jedi: Fallen Order's last objective when you see Vader: "Run"

@@Anarchic1989 nah more like "Survive"

@Luis Martinex hes not weak but yea halo reachs survive is better

I'd say it's second to 'Destroy Ganon'

Imagine All you have is your sword You have to fight your nemesis across both games and try to win.

@@yazidefirenze mine was a fellow named Golm the choker

in my case it would just be quiet maniacal laugh cause of Krakhorn The Maniac motherfucker killed me 5 times, after the fourth he fought the overlord of a fortress and BECAME AN OVERLORD HIMSELF he doesnt have ANY weaknesses except 3 hints he has alot of traits and immunities and other shit i dont remember when i was about to take the fortress i had alot of spies planted as warchiefs, and then i thought "come on beating krakhorn shouldnt be too hard now." after he killed me again i got so mad that i assigned 4 bodyguard spies to him

Talion walked onwards into the horizon. Where he reunited with his wife and his s- "MAN SWINE!!!!" *camera turns and zooms into a single uruk*

Thats what probably happened in my game with Zuka the inmortal, who got stabbed, decapitated, stabbed again, cut in half and then decapitated again, until he finally said enough is enough, but i still miss him

This was Sauron without the one ring, with Celebrimbor possessing both the Light of Galadriel and a Ring of Power containing his will and essence. It all made sense as well, Celebrimbor was touched by Sauron's shadow, he is a wight with a dark desire to dominate the living. Not seeking to destroy Sauron, but instead to usurp him. In the first game, the Black Hand of Sauron's ritual was intended to dominate Celebrimbor and merge his might with the weakened spirit of Sauron. This time around, Celebrimbor intended to be the one holding the reins. It was a nice detail that Sauron learned an important lesson from Isildur. :>

his will and essence is pretty pathetic vs that of a Maiar, he cant even beat Galadriel who was an elf. This whole enhanced Celebrimbor makes no sense, no way he can match Sauron in this state. It'd be more believable if he squeezed in a couple more souls in the ring or somethin

the curse of the Noldor started by Feanor began all this madness

Sephelutis Lucifus none of that is really relevant.

@@tunapriest9392 Those Balrog-killers died taking out the balrogs. Meanwhile, Sauron has a pretty decent track record against elf-lords, defeating Finrod in a spell-duel, single-handedly overthrowing the elven garrison stationed at Minas Tirith, personally killing Celebrimbor, and slaying Gil-galad while taking on the latter and Elendil on Orodruin.

Phillip Helmut at the end of the actual ending cinematic He’s walking into I think heaven, while he’s walking away if you look at his sons sword a rose that he gave his wife in the first game sprouts next to the sword. He did reunite with his family.

Well we know that the Elves do have a heaven, Dwarves are reincarnated, but we don't know anything about the Human afterlife.

​@@adzxyz1950 As I understand it, upon death the souls of elves, dwarves and men are summoned to the Halls of Mandos, which is located in the land of the "gods", Valinor. Elves get to be reincarnated back into the world after they have spent enough time in the halls to atone for their sins (only a single elf has never been allowed to reincarnate), but may choose to stay in the halls if they wish. Dwarves and men wait in the halls until the end of the world (though I'm not sure whether or not Men actually stay there for that long, because I recall Tolkien also saying that they pass through the Halls to their final reward after some time spent there). So dwarves are not reincarnated, but will help rebuild the world after the final battle against Melkor (basically Satan). Men's fate is unknown, but the creator of the world, Iluvatar, has a special gift in store for them, which is their prize for living short, mortal lives. So we do know about the human afterlife. We can see Talion wake up on Valinor itself, instead of the Halls of Mandos, which would actually mean he isn't reunited with his family, not before he dies of old age and goes to the Halls. It is incredibly rare for anyone but the elves and "gods" to be allowed to roam Valinor, but Talion was given this reward for his struggle, in the same way Frodo was. Keep in mind that the game doesn't really follow the lore all that faithfully. Talion being a Nazgûl is impossible, for example

@@calebfleming123 it's a the aliend

@@CheekiCheeki Why is Talion being a Nazgûl impossible?

Whenever I see a comment like that I remember that one episode of Doctor who where Jack says "almost anything" when talking about what won't be to penetrate the tardis shield and the doctor responds with "thanks but I wasn't going to tell them that" I'm assuming these two traitors don't know who Morogth is Edit: alright I get it I don't know much about lord of the rings lore

@@Theseamus2000 everyone knows who Morgoth is lmao tf u on about. They literally speak about him in the game.

Lewis Murphy Every Elf knows of Melkor

to be fair I think he doesn’t serve morgoth any more at that point kinda?

@@taekinuru2 I wouldn't say that because after sauron was defeated by frodo morgoth and sauron both returned one last time to take middle Earth but failed

Tropical Storm and he finally found peace after his Long enslavement

Angry Koala he did. And he screwed Talion over.

what are you talking about? He has Ratbag and Ranger!

Well he kind of did, in the end what Celebrimbor did really didnt change anything. While one may argue he keep Sauron busy, it wasn't what he had planned and to be fair he let Talion die for nothing.

Eduardo Valle Leon and if frodo and friends didn't destroy the one ring, all of talion's and his orc armies work would be for nothing.

I mean it's kinda hard to serve someone who is trapped in the void. Plus sauron never sought to bring his former master back even though he respected him, but he never agreed with the way morgoth ruled and wanted nothing but to kill and eradicate everything.

Morgoth : *WHAT DID YOU SAY NIGGA ???!!!!!!*

@@mihaimercenarul7467 Exactly. Morgoth was a nihilist. Sauron was a control freak

@@mihaimercenarul7467Sauron also secretly hated Morgoth’s guts and was just waiting for the best moment to betray him and take over his Army. He just didn’t do it during the First Age cuz of the as he put it dumb brainless Idiots who would without a doubt go after him if he betrayed their beloved Morgoth

Morgoth is dead idiot

And he would have won

Shows how much better talion was

Because he was the perfect host

@@bloodangel19 Celembrimbor can not dominate sauron with or without talion no matter what. Sauron (Mairon) is a Maiar and Morgoth is the one who can manipulate him in any was. With the exception of course of other Valar Beings maybe but still not quite. Celembrimbor thinking he can dominate sauron even at a state where he is at his weakest isn't a very clever decision especially since it is said that even after the banishment of morgoth his shadow and corruption still stayed in Arda. And Talion would SURELY object to Celembrimbor's plan of domination and he would try to banish Sauron given the chance if anything. The only possible way to defeat sauron is to destroy the ring since inside it he has poored " his cruelty,his malice and his will to dominate all life" Which means that if the ring is not destroyed there is absolutely nothing in the world that can dominate Sauron without dominating his ring first which would be a bad choice since it's pretty much cursed and getting it will just result in Sauron retrieving it. So it's a dead end. But Celembrimbor's greed and lust for power made him blind to that

@@senseithomes Shelob said he would have won. This game has it's own canon separte from the books, so it is posible in the game universe, it's been stated outright, there is no point in arguing

@Althane Frostbane she travels out of Morder. the DLC stated that after Celebrimbor escaped Sauron, she answered the call from the New Ring.

Is revenge what Tolkien's stories are really about?

But he got in the end what he wanted and at peace

Etharels only goal was to kill sauron she did what she had to do in her mind celebrimbor lost all his power and family to sauron he wanted to do whatever it took to get it back you can blame him but etharel thought she was doing the right thing at the time

@@Adrian13235 yea leaving the person that’s been helping her to slowly die, that’s what’s right to her huh?😂 fk her

Elrosthir that’s the point, because it is

well it is based on the books and not the movies

will murdoch oh trust me...it has nothing to books

+White Moon yeah it does depart from the books A LOT but the source material is the novel series, and not the movies themselves.

will murdoch It was confirmed to be cannon to the movie not the book. Lol

The grind could've been less heavy and it still would've achieved the narrative effect. The problem is that the grind was a blatant way on Warner Bros.'s part to tempt people into paying the microtransactions.

Chris Chen Or it was just a way for people to experience more of the Nemesis System and the awesome gameplay but everyone is to busy playing devil's advocate.

Az Az Just got my first Legendary Captain within a few hours of playing. Saving him until I can brand him, but finding Legendary Uruks isn’t as hard as people think.

Sigh, the grind was going to be there with or without lootboxes ever being in the game. Because upgrading Fortresses, getting good followers, helping them train in pits WOULD HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN FUCKING TIME! DID ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY SPEND MORE THAN 20 HOURS IN THE FIRST GAME!!!??? DID YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING THINK ABOUT THING? MY GOD DAMN GOD UGH!

Or, you know, just give us a well-crafted story mission that explains it. But yeah, repeating grind for hours or spend fifty bucks to skip it is just as good.

Not dead, but trapped in the void

He wasn’t dead

He's not dead, he's alive and he will return during Dagor Dagorath.

Sauron declared himself Morgoth reborn and did not serve him

I think u missed the point where Sauron literally made Numenorians build churches to make sacrificial rituals to Morgoth.

not me no

@@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495 believe in second chances?

@@SuperDeeyay nah I believe in the speed racer video game ost

@@SuperDeeyay ofc I do lmfao

@@SuperDeeyay breh

He was the apprentice, with Morgoth gone, he inherited the mantle of dark lord along with the will to dominate all things that roam Middle-Earth.

They also thought that Shelob and Gollum were the true good guys

Yeah I could buy that Shelob wanted Sauron gone because he took her home, her species were around since the First Age and he's basically a pushy foreign power, but why is she so happy about 'light in mordor', she's a creature of darkness.

if morgoth came back.. sauron would either serve him again or be destroyed sauon cant go up against the power of morgoth and he would no that

Not at this point in time anymore, something you can make out by Sauron saying that "there is no life in the void, only death" meaning that he does not care if Morgoth was banished to the void or is truly dead it´s the same to him either way.

Foreal! I was so happy he chopped off that bitches fingers and trapped celeb they deserved death but that was still satisfying

Same here.

Angelo Steinbach agreed lol

Angelo Steinbach press x not to die

Actually it still sucks. Sauron should be way harder than this. But yeah, it's leagues ahead of the 1st game's bosses.

Too bad this sequel sucks in every way

Valthirian Sunstrider He doesn’t have his ring of power so technically no. Celebrimbor and Eltariel has an equivalent ring of power and light of Galadriel(whatever the fuck that is. It apparently it’s OP). I can see how he was beatable. However, Shelob Saw that Talion beat him with only the ring. I think that alone just goes to show how capable Talion is and how Strong Sauron is. Imagine if Sauron had the ring, it wouldn’t even be close. God Talion was such a simple character but he was really well done.

Finally someone with brains in this comment section.

There are just random ridiculous parts of this game lmao. I dont even mind Talion as a nazgul but why does he look like a pale edgy guy wearing a hood.

​@@billcipher9344idk maybe because he is a corrupted deathless wraith

lmao

Thank god someone with a similar mindset. It’s my headcannon that he was just one of those Nazgûl during the movies and died at the black gate where it all started. Kinda thematic.

twistedmetalplayer21 same here I feel empty I don't know why maybe because that song at the end.

He FINALLY got the death he wanted eventually, though. It's an esoteric happy ending to him.

twistedmetalplayer21 at least he can see his family again

I feel that too.

Well, he is with their family now

Didn't know evil Maiar with a penchant for betrayal, wanton murder, and enslavement of all races were a kink for some. Interesting.

Agreed it's a good likeness for the Lord of Gifts.

@Bingo Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying man, I don't think he'd be a good lover.

@@austinkersey2445 you'd have to be into domination lol

@@Mrcaptainmorgan93 *Indeed*

Me

Milk Man In Vídeo Games,When The MC Has An Ghost Of Your Enemy On Your Soul, He Is Bound To Betray You, That What I Learned

Me. Bullshit betrayal negating their relationship entirely.

Eugen Glassmann not really their relationship becomes much more strained in shadow of war

their relationship was already pretty strained to begin with, shadow of war was basically the tipping point.

except men don't go to the white shores

I thought ring bearers get a free ticket to the white shores. Frodo and Bilbo both got a free seat on the last boat for this reason if I remember rightly. Has been a while. If this is the case than technically Talion would also be eligible

@@WNShadow814 Don't forget in the Book Lord of the Rings Sam also carried the ring for Frodo as they traveled to Mount Doom. That is why Sam got to go to Valinor. Sam may have traveled with Lord Celeborn together.

​@@superduperfreakyDj They don't stay there, but they do stay a bit at the halls of Mandos before leaving, cf Luthien meeting Beren there.

Your Next Line is He held the enemy in Mordor and gave Frodo and the Fellowship the time they needed even risking his very soul. If he didn't then Sauron's armies would have conquered Middle Earth decades before the books or movies even started.

An unsung hero. What you did mattered. No one is alive to remember it, though.

Congrats, nothing you did mattered... NANI!?!

H250909 that reply is the best for a response

It mattered in lore but not for the actual game. Celebrimbor is still the bad guy no matter what you do. You can't get a good ending. It's dumb as shit.

Sauron: dude your realms locked it says I have to die Morgoth: dammit sauron then why do you live

phillip walling Morgoth is cast in a void never to return

Dude, he technically serves no one right now. As Morgoth had already been banished to the void long ago, Sauron had taken his mantle as the new Dark Lord.

somebody's getting fired! in yonce's voice

Morgoth returns for one final battle before the end of arda. Sauron would have to answer to him eventually.

Dyslexo presumably he and a load of the other orcs fled Mordor, perhaps they form the foundation of a post Sauron civilisation

Queek headtaker Ratbag dlc confirmed ratbag new ring bearer

+Dysexo he was killed by the hammer of sauron remmember?

game fly he didn't die from it. I can tell you haven't played this game ;)

The truth is that the Witch King is actually a time-travelling Ratbag.

Thats what i was thinking, I love Tolkiens work and thought i would hate this but ended up decently satisfied

Same voice actor, Sauron's fair form as Annatar was meant to be deceptively beautiful, calm and charming. And clearly intimate with Shelob's own. ;)

Really? He sounds like a Nazgul who smokes 5 packs a day.

@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s no I'm not

@Executioner I agree with you man his voice in the previous game was so badass and cool to listen to

Yeah I hate how similar it sounds to the Nazgûl honestly

That's likely because rather than try something as ludicrous as BRANDING Sauron, Talion would've just whacked his head off with that handy dandy sword of his, no mucking around with 'weakening' him or putting his hand on his face to try and turn him into a minion. Also that look on Eltariel's face as she stumbles back, clutching her bleeding hand? I'm pretty sure that is the facial expression for "oh shit I really fucked up didn't I?"

That's because Talion still has some morals and is committed to destroying Sauron, not dominating him. He wouldn't have fallen for that move because he would've just summoned up his spectral hammer and whacked Sauron's head in with it.

but then celebrimbor woudve turned into the new sauron. Shelob made talion see the true end of celebrimbor.

@@jacksimpson8529 Yeah no. that doesnt work on sauron lmao

X-RHODEN-X The fact that the writers thought a first-age elf, elf-wraith, or a not-even-numenorean man would stand a half-second against Sauron is baffling. No, send 30 Talions at Sauron he’d bitch slap them all at once. He has faced ten times worse things (UNGOLIANT)

Leo Jansen haha

Good ‘ol Manwe keeping an eye on things

Requiem Solace maybe he too could be like Celebrimbor and takes a vessel to claim

@Leo Jansen I hope a sane and good bruz is there too maybe even flint and his brother

The souls of men go to the far western shores of the Undying Lands for a brief time before leaving the physical universe. Only Iluvatar knows where they go after that

what if Sauron being the big bad for a long time made him forget about Morgoth

@@enragedbyeverything i dont think so as he once was in Numenor the verry first thing he did was that they build statues for Morgoth

@@creativenamesmth maybe because since morgoth is gone he says this

There's a difference between 'serve' and 'served', you know?

I like to think MAYBE that wasn´t him lol. Then again, the Nazgul are a bunch of weebs compared to the ones in te game...

Tanner McNeill maybe not. There was only five of the nine in the prancing pony and at wethertop.

the game isn't canon my good sirs

@@masterpoopoopoopoo9507 WHAT ? The Nazgul here can turn into weird ass smoke clouds, Celebrimbor became a fucking wraith (such a dumbass choice), Sauron can turn into his fair form and a shit ton more lore-raping shit, this game is not canon to anything. Pure trash.

Derp Herp the ring wraiths somehow become fucking death eaters or those weird ass ghosts from Harry Potter it’s embarrassing

One that says bright lord on it

@@hi-js6vb I posted this 7 months ago rn yours says 7 hours ago I thank you

@@insaneq_309 and im also here 1 month later

@@fireclash7653 and I’m also here 1 month later.

Agree

No, it is not

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 why?

@@AA-jp9cj The gameplay is great but the story of this game is total horseshit, its a giant middle-finger to the lore.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 they just tried to do their own take on it, they do try to pay some homage at least to the original lore, that doesn't make it bad.

Cool idea but kind of a slap to players face with talion, as it wouldnt fit his character. More like celebrimbor & eltatiel doing that, fighting nazguls including talion, and then slaving sauron and attacking middle earth, but it would be very hard because all orcs would be on their side, they should basically include mens elves' and dwarves fortresses in the game which would take like same time to do as gta 6

@@tuomast7309 I would be ok with that, this game basically rapes the lore anyway.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 true, ngl i would hope for any game that includes the og characters and middle earth locations into new generation consoles. Even something like return of the king remastered, was lit on ps2

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Rapes what lore??? These games are f-g adaptations!!!! 🤦

@@tuomast7309 Idk if they would actually do it like Sauron.

It's before the lord of the rings series started so he would have to lose or disappear for the game to be connected and talion falling to darkness also

Princeofddr Dance Master you just saw both endings, Why bother?

SuperDuper NaturalPerson Because I have fun defending fortress, and messing around with the Nemesis System?

Dex4Sure I didn't even know this game existed 'till I saw *TheRadBrad* play it

Good plan. That's how it was supposed to be without WB thinking they could bleed money out of impatient morons.

Really goes to show how death really is a gift in Tolkien's world, when you see what a taste of immortality did to someone who had that immortality forced upon him. He just wanted to see his family again.

What an idiot celebrimbor is ay

@@God-xw1nu Total hubris man.

What time stamp is that at

A maia cannot be dominated by an Elf and Man

Bruh, his grandfather Feanor fought 5 Balrogs, which are very same Maiar as Sauron, his grandfather's brother Fingolfin fought the Morgoth himself and wounded him, so I'd say Noldor are not mere petty Elves. Also he's a Wraith and has a ring not bound to the One.

gamer42j not even out in North America yet lol

gamer42j Two words: review copies. These guys were probably playing for days before hand.

H240909 Yeah probably.

In the movies it's heavy. In the games it's light as frick

I dunno what my point was in my comment.

Kamina but celebrimbor had a ring that enhances his power and sourons ring fell off

In this game canon Celebrimbor created the One Ring, and at this point he was ring-powered and a wraith that had been plotting and powering up for a long time for the sake of revenge, having become the Bright Lord as a contrast to the Dark Lord, so he's ascended beyond simply being an elf.

Yes. This is what i have been talking about. Celebrimbor got arrogant and thought he could enslave & control Sauron. But Sauron is a lesser god and Celebrimbor a mere elf, ancient and powerful sure but that is not enough to contend with the will of a God. Foolish Celebrimbor. He got what he deserved.

Well Legolas did shield surfing, I'm still waiting sauron to show he can do that. Elves - 1 Dark Lord - 0

Would be a neat plot twist. lol

Collin Rank yes

Collin Rank yeah basically he was allowed to die and pass on to the after life with his family

to the halls of Mandos he goes

yeah the whole game is about him wanting to die

@@nameisconfusing142 not really. Cause if he wanted to die he could just take his ring off and that's it

@@moaazmedhat467 and what does that have to do with his tragic story exactly??

@@moaazmedhat467 fuck off dude

So was the Witch King's voice.

I beg to differ, his voice was far better in Shadow of Mordor.

and tried to kill him

Well actually when Angmar stabbed Frodo he was turning into a Wraith also so they were trying to recruit him in a way

This game isnt canon idiots

am i the only who thinks it would be hilarious to see nazgul frodo? you have all these nine badasses coming at you on horses and a little one the size of a child carring their bagages?

Nah it would be freaking hilarious

Rings of Power TV show

He wasn't breathing in middle earth

Hate that monster as much as you want, you gotta admit he had a point about that one.

Lmao all the Starks got a happy ending, wtf u smoking to like that crap?

@@user-xt4pk7my6h Damn he just cited a quote, he didnt say anything about any characters ending

Too bad he ain't canon.

Remus88Romulus me

Remus88Romulus Who's cutting onions

Me too bro

🤚

@@utahwerewolf9932 There should be nothing uncanny about Annatar. If there was even the slightest thing off I don’t think the Elves would be so thoroughly taken in.

And still lose like a little bitch that he is

Aazaad Gass Dude,Harry Potter would not work with this style and nemesis system.

Draco Will remember that

I don't see a game like free to roam but a fighting game would be cool

Lol imagine Hogwarts, The forbidden forest, hogs mead as fortresses, and Harry Potter attached to the spirit of Dumbledor. Then imagine Harry, covered in liters of blood as he stealth kills Slytherins with his wand in the hallways of the castle, or using the Gryfendor blade to hack through them in the great hall. Now that you've imagined it, you should probably notice that it would be a pretty messed up game, besides just being pure blasphamy.

A better question is: What other game or scenario would benefit and be improved by something like the nemesis system? Talion's journey is over but what's to say this mechanic cant be used and reworked for another adventure and context?

They wouldn't be able to know everything, Tolkien's works have a crap ton of lore, it's envetiable they'll miss something Nvm, thanks AP for disproving me.

@@twinzzlers The developers intentionally did take some liberties of their own. However, I personally enjoy the game's story anyway.

@@twinzzlers Sauron being unable to take on a beautiful form isn't a hidden scarp of lore, it's a massive plot point in the timeline of the Second Age.

@@LordMortanius Oh, whoops. Thanks for correcting me.

If it did that, it would be boring. A good LOTR game needs to deviate from the lore.

"Sorry to put you through a lot man... but hey, you've got 8 more chill bro's now and here's a flying warmount, that make you feel better a bit?" "HECK YEAH!"

@@shadedias5563 Instantly the job benefit increased with a company-sponsored air ride

Yeah