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MIDI without USB - classic MIDI connections explained

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Behringer

Behringer

Күн бұрын

You want do do MIDI without USB? Hooking up a synthesiser is easy. USB cable in - done! But what if you want to tempo sync two drum machines in a live setup? No computer! What if you bought a vintage synth on eBay? No USB! What if you want to directly control one synth from another keyboard? USB usually doesn’t do a direct connection!
In this video we explain how the classic 5 pin MIDI connection works and how you could use it with or without a USB master keyboard.
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@FistieSplinters
@FistieSplinters 11 ай бұрын
Four years later, still the best video on MIDI. Thank you.
@jondellar
@jondellar 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot-on! 👍
@oogabooga7383
@oogabooga7383 4 жыл бұрын
I love this guy he talks so beautifully and makes me feel like his friend
@OdinTheTall
@OdinTheTall Сағат бұрын
He is your friend.
@slicktar
@slicktar 2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy..... I'm Lloyd Dorsey and I forgot that I even asked the question.... and here it is 3 years later that I run across this video!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was some type of block chain thing that I saw my name.......wowo......Thanks.
@OdinTheTall
@OdinTheTall Сағат бұрын
That's pretty cool.
@IAskForNames
@IAskForNames 4 жыл бұрын
Wow dude you're an AMAZING teacher. This is probably one of the best tutorials on ANYTHING that I've ever watched. MIDI for me is complex to understand but you made it very understandable! Thank you
@electrikm38
@electrikm38 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad Behringer did this video for those who maybe are or are not familiar with the idea of midi compared to usb.It can be helpful for those just beginning into the world of midi.Thank you for the informational video.
@phranquepeasant5688
@phranquepeasant5688 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Finally a good and simple explanation of the purpose of MIDI Thru.
@rufo
@rufo 5 жыл бұрын
These videos, and the presenter, are great! Clear and consise explanations of essential concepts. :)
@001239
@001239 5 жыл бұрын
He actually has his own channel where he does cool die stuff kzfaq.info/love/rkuOJwtbnPiREJi9M1zvoQ
@axelfrund70
@axelfrund70 5 жыл бұрын
Wie kriege Ich das auf Deutsche Einstellung?
@dreadful_privation
@dreadful_privation 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome for doing this. I use midi or cv primarily for sync/connections. My days of sitting on a bedroom floor with a pro-one, commodore 64, and tape deck may be long, long gone... but man.... where it has all taken us! I kinda hate that i grew up classic midi now that it makes me all old; but I love all your guys' great gear and the community available in here in the future. Appreciate ya all doin this vid! Best!
@gadzintu
@gadzintu 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Behringer for taking the time and making these videos!
@matsewunderlich
@matsewunderlich 5 жыл бұрын
I love Behringer ❤️ ... waiting for the 09 - to use it with my classic MIDI setup
@KWHCoaster
@KWHCoaster 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! If a synth doesn't include 5-pin MIDI support, is USB-MIDI only, it is instantly scratch off my wish list. I can play everything in my setup via a master MIDI keyboard and I have a MIDI Channel label on the face of the synths & sound modules for quick reference of the assigned channel. P.S. Daisy chaining with MIDI THRU is convenient, but then you need to power up all gear in the chain. A MIDI THRU box (one MIDI IN, many MIDI OUT) allows you to keep some gear off when not being used. And avoid introducing latency.
@audioartisan
@audioartisan 5 жыл бұрын
I started by daisy-chaining synths, then worked my way up to a MIDI expander connected to an Atari 1040st. USB wasn't even thought of yet. Great to see a video teaching MIDI beginning basics to the USB generation ;)
@NicB-Creations
@NicB-Creations 5 жыл бұрын
This video: "midi without usb" Me: "midi with usb?"
@anotherwolff3650
@anotherwolff3650 4 жыл бұрын
it is called USB-MIDI in every PC Mac and any DAW
@NicB-Creations
@NicB-Creations 4 жыл бұрын
@@anotherwolff3650 Lol, I know.
@CommodoreGreg
@CommodoreGreg 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching for the same reason -- to see this "midi with usb" thing. I mean it can't be real deal chainable midi, can it? Sounds like a hack. Time to watch...
@CommodoreGreg
@CommodoreGreg 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, reducing everything to USB bites us in the butt yet again. Considering the "MI" in "MIDI" stands for Multiple Instrument, the USB version shouldn't even be called MIDI.
@truthmanifestingtruth
@truthmanifestingtruth 4 жыл бұрын
CommodoreGreg usb can be multiple. It’s up to your setup
@xanfus
@xanfus 3 жыл бұрын
OMG this is exactly what I needed! I just bought my very first synth, a ms-1 and I'm super excited to get started!!!
@gary332
@gary332 Жыл бұрын
My head was spinning like hell. midi in, midi out, thru thru, midi out and then midi thru and midi in. nice vid by the way THANKS!
@pipe-usorganicus3700
@pipe-usorganicus3700 3 жыл бұрын
forgot a couple of things. I also use 2 Behringer stereo volume control pedals between the laptops and the power amplifiers. So I have 4 channel audio from 2 laptops and 4 keyboards and 1 pedalboard. Really fun, really shakes the house!!! Thanks!
@NeoTeAika
@NeoTeAika 5 жыл бұрын
It bothers me when synthesizers DON'T have MIDI DIN.
@bobafruti
@bobafruti 5 жыл бұрын
Neo Te Aika no excuse for it unless it’s very small or very cheap 🤣
@joaquinvelazquez913
@joaquinvelazquez913 5 жыл бұрын
What is Midi "DIN"?
@scorinth
@scorinth 5 жыл бұрын
@@joaquinvelazquez913 DIN is another name for "5 pin MIDI" connectors, but MIDI isn't the only thing that uses DIN. *Really* old desktop computers used DIN connectors for keyboards.
@DalmaTon-Records
@DalmaTon-Records 5 жыл бұрын
@@scorinth Yes, its a standard. Computers used similar not only for keyboards, but for mouse connection too (PS/2). Some computers (like gaming ones) have it on today setups too. On my computer from which Im typing this reply has and keyboard and mouse connected through PS/2 DIN connectors... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector *Cheers!*
@joaquinvelazquez913
@joaquinvelazquez913 5 жыл бұрын
@@scorinth oh so, the real midi connector. Thank you!
@marlonbrown5763
@marlonbrown5763 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation after years
@matthewjay2680
@matthewjay2680 5 жыл бұрын
The Arturia Keystep is a Godsend in that it has both USB & MIDI I/O, even in a DAW-less land in which I operate. The midiIN also acts as a THRU: I’ve an MC-303 Groovebox I use as an over glorified Master Clock that sends clock data to AND through the Keystep to my modules & volcas
@glenesis
@glenesis 5 жыл бұрын
I need DIN MIDI on everything, and I'm tired of passing up sweet gear because of that USB-only MIDI BS. Thanks Behringer for KICKING BUTT!!! MIDI Merge is a definite plus!!
@Barney205
@Barney205 5 жыл бұрын
Behringer are just killing the game right now. Totally listening to the end users with all the new synths coming out plus new content up on KZfaq all the time. Very exciting time for producer's 👍
@ConwayBob
@ConwayBob 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying waters that were a bit murky for some of us.
@pryce4267
@pryce4267 3 жыл бұрын
I am eternally grateful. Finally everything hooked up
@RogerioValgode
@RogerioValgode 5 жыл бұрын
Behringer is really catching a good piece of the synth market. Nice move! You may hate it or love it, but they are here! I don’t have one yet, but... almost there!
@kurtklingklang5918
@kurtklingklang5918 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Nicely presented. Although you didn't seem to mention the necessity for setting MIDI channels on separate synth's downstream from the controller - but it's a small point. However...... I would have to say that restricting synths to USB MIDI only, is a huge error. Conventional MIDI works well and has done so for decades. Why enforce the use of a computer just for MIDI connections. In a multi-synth setup, making a PC the patch panel is introducing a single point of failure. It's not as if a computer is 100% reliable. In an "old school" midi setup, if one synth fails, you can patch it out. If your laptop/PC fails, you are completely screwed.
@BigJimmy
@BigJimmy 5 жыл бұрын
That's right dude! :)
@xaviermccloud4586
@xaviermccloud4586 4 жыл бұрын
It's OBVIOUS that you guys are old... Just like you guys "love" things there are people like me who "love" anything PC and a PC will last a really, really, REALLY long time before failure. The real problem is people don't have good up keeping skills. ESPECIALLY people who make music ;)
@AndersEngerJensen
@AndersEngerJensen 5 жыл бұрын
My 50+ keyboards/synths/modules are connected via four MOTU MIDI Express 128 USB to MIDI interfaces on my Mac Pro. They're all local off and I select in Digital Performer which instrument and channel I want to play on each every time. This means I can access all the remote gear from my Yamaha Motif XS7 master keyboard from the comfort of my chair. All are routed into my Yamaha LS-9 32 mixer (some via multiple 8 channel Behringer sub mixes). :)
@carlospinho3303
@carlospinho3303 5 жыл бұрын
Behringer ist super . 👍 Danke Behringer .
@MouseSF
@MouseSF 5 жыл бұрын
1983 - the year that changed everything!
@skullhqx
@skullhqx 4 жыл бұрын
Annie I presume Mousedit is referring to the year the MIDI specification was published. :)
@dglcomputers1498
@dglcomputers1498 5 жыл бұрын
My MIDI trick is to invest in a MOTU MTP AV for all my midi merging/splitting/routing/filtering/clocking needs, means no moving of cables and as such gives you a very flexible setup. 8X8 with one unit or 16X16 with an extra similar unit over serial. Really useful if you have multiple MIDI controllers and multiple MIDI sound modules as you don't necessarily have to change MIDI channels as each module will only respond to the controller that is routed to it.
@manuelsteinmair
@manuelsteinmair 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that i got a used Miditemp MT 16 X for a few bucks. 16x16 Midi Patchbay. Free routing and channel configuration with midi effects. Great unit, didn't find anything like this from another company. Only downside is the lack of USB and the configuration has to be done with a small remote controller instead of a nice GUI. So... Uli, clone that! ;-)
@DarrylMcGee
@DarrylMcGee 3 жыл бұрын
There are also some MIDI Routers that have USB MIDI host ports. The new Conductive Labs MRCC - MIDI Router Control Center is a fine example. It has 1 button per port routing so you don't need a computer to use it, and it has lots of 5 pin DIN ports, and 3.5MM jacks. You will need it if you have started collecting all of these great and inexpensive Behringer synths like we have!
@theacematt2
@theacematt2 5 жыл бұрын
Arturia Beatstep Pro's have been lovely for working with MIDI channels across multiple instruments 😍 in a computer-less setup
@hovermotion
@hovermotion 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic...this has solved my problems with my cables..its so confuseing at first as there are so many ways to connect up equepment....
@maxamills1929
@maxamills1929 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I still think of usb midi as “new tech” and barely use it.
@xaviermccloud4586
@xaviermccloud4586 4 жыл бұрын
Yea you are old fashioned. It's called retro or nostalgic these days my friend. Me personally am a bit youngish (30) and I hate how integrated music making has become with a PC. I actually just started making music in the past few months, didn't know a damn thing about anything lol. Never played an instrument in my life but I for one don't like the fact that people sell snippets of sound made on some shitty VST's to other people to make another GENERIC rap, dubstep, synth, retrowave song. I think it's very cool and innovative to be able to click on your screen with a mouse and keyboard but it takes away creativity. THere is literally kids out here who have told me that they would rather use mouse and keyboard to make a beat... Me being young but in between generations is difficult. I like classic things that mesh well with new age tech but these kids don't even want to use a damn midi controller! LOL! I said to one guy who told me he doesn't know how to play keys... "I don't either! But i bought a KK m32 keyboard to LEARN how to play!" It's CRAZY how people are so void of LEARNING a new TALENT that could take you somewhere. Music making has given me back my life. I missed this feeling.
@TrioLOLGamers
@TrioLOLGamers 4 жыл бұрын
@tinylilmatt yep but 90% of the times they compose better than you because they know the software. That's what happens nowadays and lots of new artists doesn't even know how to play one only instrument and are less creative than you that you know how really is the mechanism of how to compose a song (in real life).
@thomaskolb8785
@thomaskolb8785 4 жыл бұрын
It is not a matter of being old-fashioned, but having better ears. USB was never intended to work in a pro audio setup and as such can create a slight, but clearly audible background noise (a kind of "swirling", "whistling" or "ticking") to the instrument's noise floor. For some instruments this is more pronounced than others, but even if you use noise gates, it will soon add up to a very audible dgital racket when using multiple synthesizers. Standard DIN MIDI is specifically designed to avoid this, and so is completely silent.
@jnkmal9519
@jnkmal9519 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskolb8785 Probably because real MIDI circuits use optocouplers as a standard of MIDI which physically isolates the circuit between instruments. USB share power/ground and 2 data lines which certainly can lead to audible noise.
@rattlesnakejake5513
@rattlesnakejake5513 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really nice keyboard but I have no clue how to use it at all. It’s the Casio Privia px-3000 and I want to try and connect to my speaker and record with garage band on my iPad.
@DoctorBlankenstein
@DoctorBlankenstein 5 жыл бұрын
It hurts my soul that this video needs to be made. lol DIN midi forever! 😀
@SynthsandSounds
@SynthsandSounds 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's sad to see that MIDI isn't what it used to be if you have to call it "classic MIDI". I had a look into midi keyboards recently. 99% of the sh*t you find just has a USB output! You shouldn't even be allowed to call that MIDI. And companies still seem to ignore the lack of hardware MIDI. It's so sad to see that the arturia keystep is pretty much the only of its class to feature hardware MIDI. In a time where everything is going back to analog and DAW-less, manufacturers have really missed out on that, still bringing out gear with only USB-MIDI or without MIDI THRU!
@lynnskaggs9356
@lynnskaggs9356 5 жыл бұрын
@@SynthsandSounds And let's not even start on the 3.5mm MIDI adapters...
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
@@SynthsandSounds Self censor why don't you!
@leftmono1016
@leftmono1016 5 жыл бұрын
DoctorBlankenstein - I was thinking the same thing! Kudos to Behringer for including midi Thru on their products.
@BarryWarne
@BarryWarne 5 жыл бұрын
I feel so very old
@ryanphillips5218
@ryanphillips5218 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd like to see more of these gear tutorials while we wait for your UB-Xa announcement video!
@rhythmdroid
@rhythmdroid 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never thought I’d see this! I knew what MIDI was before Behringer was even a company!
@irishmusico
@irishmusico 5 жыл бұрын
Man I am old! I remember connecting a DX7 to a Juno 106 when midi was the newest technology. Now they are classic midi connectors lol.
@irishmusico
@irishmusico 5 жыл бұрын
@mark heyne lol
@illyph9963
@illyph9963 Жыл бұрын
Lol I’ll never forget trying to hook my first synth to my mpc2000 back in day, it took while for my brain to wrap around the way it’s basically reverse of way audio wires go (which is another whole bunch of wires you had to deal with on top of midi lol), like with audio I was so use to like, sound goes “out” of this machine, and “in” to this machine, but then midi data goes other way, cause your sending data, seems so simple to me now, but back in beginning learning it was perplexing lol
@illyph9963
@illyph9963 Жыл бұрын
And once they switched to usb, I was so like “really that’s it, now it works?”😳🤣
@canid_caninepixelodyssey1726
@canid_caninepixelodyssey1726 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to add that i bought a RD-08 and its a great piece of equipment
@gianlucamingotto
@gianlucamingotto 6 ай бұрын
HI! I have a setup of four Korg Volcas with a Behringer Swing keyboard. The Korgs only have one midi input ( the keyboard signal comes via a MIDI thru box), the clock comes out from the Volca Beats (drum machine), then the signal (clock) cascades back to the Swing keyboard. Now, I'd like to have a tutorial on how to set up the keyboard software, Controltribe, for various needs. For example, I wouldn't even want to have a computer while I play, but every time without the software open the keyboard doesn't work (powered via the electrical outlet). Thank you! Beautiful products! thank you!
@chent
@chent 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I kinda knew most of this, but I like freshing up and learning some tips. Even if I have figured out the synking via MIDI, I would love some general stuff about synking. I struggle about with synking modular with the gates, triggers and all of that stuff. So many difrent signals, and I do not know enugh about what the difrenses. Love the update to the Crave by the way! Thanks!
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 4 жыл бұрын
MIDI used the DIN 5 pin audio conectors. In East Germany they kept this standard for audio till the end, so it wasn't hard to get a MIDI cable. Funny thing, they offered a polyphonic synthesizer and drum machine, both with MIDI.
@c4budul1ytvv
@c4budul1ytvv 7 ай бұрын
Thank you So much! this video helped me connect a yamaha Shs-500
@vertigev
@vertigev 3 жыл бұрын
THIS is the video I've been looking for. THANK YOU!
@synthman2000
@synthman2000 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I didn't know Behringer made synths. Now I do.
@openclassics
@openclassics 4 ай бұрын
Your Denglisch is wunderfull!
@brightstarlit
@brightstarlit 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old school setup, only sequencer controlling all synths. It can get pretty confusing. Love these videos! Also this guy is HOT!
@youtubeuser6668
@youtubeuser6668 3 жыл бұрын
Gay thing.
@Rr0gu3_5uture
@Rr0gu3_5uture Жыл бұрын
Cool, I knew all this stuff except what the hell 'Soft Thru' meant on my DM6!
@thevitamindeanshow3303
@thevitamindeanshow3303 3 жыл бұрын
great explaination and you basically went strait to it. I can't handle life stories when I need intel.
@JamieClark
@JamieClark 5 жыл бұрын
can't wait too see the void filled where SAMPLERS is on the website - would love to see a competitor for the 404sx or something like that with full MIDI in/out/thru!
@piercemcintyre1327
@piercemcintyre1327 4 жыл бұрын
I use a korg ds-8 to control my model-D with midi and route audio for the korg to the audio in of the model d. When I play a note I get both instruments, by default the Model D plays the lowest note played, then I can play other notes on top of that from the korg going through the model-d filter. I know you can change the note priority with the software, but using the Model-d as a bass is quite great. Then I can hook up to an amp and have one channel two great synths together.
@craigbrowning9448
@craigbrowning9448 5 жыл бұрын
I almost always use MIDI DIN Ports. A Synth setup I use for Gigs +when using a Hammond Organ or Nord NE-2 as a main Instrument) is a small setup of an Emu Piano module, a Roland VP-03 (with keyboard) and a Behringer D. I run Everything on MIDI Channel 1 and use (depending on the unit) turning down Volumes, Switching to an unused MIDI Channel or Mute Switches to select the device.
@Dt3kno
@Dt3kno 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@HoodHandyman
@HoodHandyman Жыл бұрын
informative. I already knew most of this stuff through trial and error but its good to hear if you need a refresher which i did
@stevefitzherbert
@stevefitzherbert 10 ай бұрын
thank you, dorsey.
@GiangiacomoZaffini
@GiangiacomoZaffini 5 жыл бұрын
Extra like for the good at the end of it.
@studilocker4439
@studilocker4439 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to behringer that I now have the problem to connect four synths haha :)
@robhorner933
@robhorner933 2 жыл бұрын
Flawless Instructions!
@TRITONER
@TRITONER 3 жыл бұрын
very good presentation good job there
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful video. Thanks!
@gruponemesis
@gruponemesis 5 жыл бұрын
i still have yet to use USB midi....except for my Icon daw controller...i have a midisport 8x8...the way things should be
@ronygindy4889
@ronygindy4889 5 жыл бұрын
It will be wonderful to have MIDI control/remote for deepmind 12 for Live performance (on stage) !!! Bank sounds change
@AudioAddicted949
@AudioAddicted949 5 жыл бұрын
❤️Love the explanation from Götz Müller ❤️
@GhastlyH
@GhastlyH 2 жыл бұрын
Man.... seeing someone do a presentation on MIDI DIN really makes me feel old.
@m1ke1981
@m1ke1981 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation on how MIDI works! Great content! Liked!
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 5 жыл бұрын
1:25 Some units can also mix, as Roland MIDI pedal boards for bass playing with the feet.
@luigidaniellmusic
@luigidaniellmusic 4 жыл бұрын
beatiful explained
@MarkGardner66Bonnie
@MarkGardner66Bonnie 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information...
@ephyman78
@ephyman78 3 жыл бұрын
Hello thanks for this video, I have Yamaha sx900 and I am cubase user can I use sx900 voice as a sound module through midi? Thanks
@rajibkhakhlari5150
@rajibkhakhlari5150 3 жыл бұрын
Sir would you tell me how to record the rythym from my piano?
@mikewetzel1162
@mikewetzel1162 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and content. Thank You for that. Please do more.
@digitalvamp
@digitalvamp 4 жыл бұрын
thank you I am new to midi and this simple explanation helped bigtime!
@behringer
@behringer 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@SHORTSAIOFFICAL
@SHORTSAIOFFICAL 2 жыл бұрын
@@behringer HELLO BROTHER I AM FACING A PROBLEM I BUY A MIDI KEYBOARD AND IT HAS ONLY MIDI OUT CAN I CONNECT IT TO MY PC WITHOUT SYNTHESISER AND AUDIO CARD ?
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very good explanation of 'old school' MIDI, and after 4 decades it still works great! However, linking through THRU won't work when using your synths as multi-timbral instruments from a DAW: each has its own 16 MIDI channels and therefor need separate connections. And that's where MIDI boxes with 2x2, 4x4, 8x8 or even higher come into play. My experience is that using multiple MIDI synths as well as USB from a DAW, doesn't work well... At least not with Cakewalk (previously Sonar) Luckily MIDI is still included on most modern synths! And with MIDI 2.0 around the corner, it's going to be used for many decades again 😀🎹
@VJFranzK
@VJFranzK 5 жыл бұрын
You can have your DINner at MIDIday! All devices should still have these ports.
@niallteague1
@niallteague1 3 ай бұрын
Can you Do a demonstration of using the Poly D using Usb as a midi controller device with Protools.
@Instrumentals4Sale
@Instrumentals4Sale 5 жыл бұрын
Proper MIDI connections are the sign of a quality synth. Long live MIDI, long live Behringer!!
@Sandelec-gm2cl
@Sandelec-gm2cl 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude...the midi protocol was Born in 1983..and the USB serial Port was Born in 1999. Often the people Who play music without computer...use the midi without USB. It's more simple...you must select the master clock machine that send the timing clock. And with the thru Port (the most important Port) you can collect a series of machine..anyone with One Channel assigned.
@scrunchymacscruff1244
@scrunchymacscruff1244 3 жыл бұрын
I found KORG 01/w pro in the city yard dumpster (it needed a new computer battery and dis n dat..It has the floppy drive and 2 banks of factory voices). Now I'just trying to learn how to hook up all the stuff into a workable RECORD set-up through a macbook and/or whatever (I have all analog goodies, guitars, amp's, etc.. It numbs my braintrying to get it..I started out goofing with a casio backin the 80's, and a portable casette recorder. Think of the fun, though.
@WrvrUgoThrUR
@WrvrUgoThrUR 2 жыл бұрын
This video didn't address why I clicked, though it did trigger me to think harder about what i was trying to do--Sync my Deepmind6 to my UNO Drum. Then it dawned on me that the Deepmind's arpeggiator clock setting was what needed setting. So thanks.....I think?
@mrtibbs5543
@mrtibbs5543 4 жыл бұрын
ganz gut tutorial! danke.
@teleoneil6187
@teleoneil6187 5 жыл бұрын
You are wrong about older synths not being able to merge Midi data on the MIDI OUT connector. All of my Roland gear can Merge the Local Keyboard notes being played along with data being sent via a sequencer which (as an example) will play my Roland i7 Integra (which can playback 16 channels and all the internal effects) along with my live data at the same time. My friend had an M1 Korg which is a very old keyboard that also had a Local Keyboard on off switch which allowed the merge. I have an older Yamaha keyboard that will do the same thing so I think the user needs to check with their manual to see if the Local merge can be accomplished.
@behringer
@behringer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Tele! I personally had the M1 and am quite certain that it didn't merge MIDI.
@bobafruti
@bobafruti 5 жыл бұрын
Behringer is great!
@primus6313
@primus6313 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Paris dude, very helpfull
@lazmusic1
@lazmusic1 3 жыл бұрын
Please forgive my very basic question but I am not a regular keyboard/midi user. I have an old digital piano with only midi connections which I only use as midi controller and use an old Sound Canvas external sound module as my sound source. I have attempted to connect this setup to my computer with a very basic midi/usb interface, a little black box with In, Out, Thru and Midi connections. It worked for a while but now I can't get the recorded midi data to communicate with the sound module, which means I can't listen back to what I have recorded. Currently my patching is as follows: Out of keyboard into in of the interface/Thru from interface to In of sound module. I can hear what I play live but not what has been recorded. I think my settings on the recorded channels in the DAW (Reaper) are correct. I have assigned different channels to different sounds on the module and adjust the output channel on the keyboard when I'm recording. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong, anybody? Many thanks indeed.
@iamformula
@iamformula 2 жыл бұрын
Grrrrrrreat video!!!!! Very precise, and well explained!!!!!
@cc11studio
@cc11studio 4 жыл бұрын
What's interesting, is USB gives you no advantage of speed compared to standard MIDI. It's the protocol (40yrs old) that holds back the speeds.....not the connector. Can't wait for MIDI 2.0 to be fully implemented!
@countzero1972
@countzero1972 2 жыл бұрын
great tutorial
@marcThysebaert
@marcThysebaert 4 жыл бұрын
Super demo
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 5 жыл бұрын
And theres devices that can switch the out port as a thru ( when they have 2 din sockets) theres a trick for older synths that have omni mode only, you should also not chain more than 3 devices without a seperate thru box
@Musicofjonesey
@Musicofjonesey Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video multiple times and am still struggling. Here’s my setup. -Mac Studio {Logic} -Yamaha P35-MIDI 5pin only -Yamaha KX88-MIDI 5pin only -Prophet Rev 2 -Acoustic Guitar -Line -Mic Any suggestions on an interface that is quality and will handle all this without plugging/unplugging? Thanks in advance to all!
@OttoMilde
@OttoMilde 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I bought a midi-interface called SubZero SZ-MB44.
 The idea was that I was going to control several of my hardware synths with either my Beatstep Pro or my Keystep, hook up at the same time.
 The interface works well with my Volca Sample on channels 1-10, Volca FM on channel 11 and a Minilogue XD module on channel 13.
 I tried to set the Behringer neutron on channel 12, both with the dipswitches and the software but it doesn't work. At one point I got drone-like long tones, impossible to control. Otherwise the midi signal goes into the interface but not into the Neutron.
 When I use the midi-in directly from the keystep and route the midi-thru to the interface it works, but the thing I would wan't to do is to control the Neutron with the BSP or the Keystep without having to re-route cables every time
 Grateful for some guidance.
 /Otto
@DoFunkk
@DoFunkk 4 жыл бұрын
can you mix midi out and midi thru with a "midi splitter cable" if i want to use 2 different devices to sequence in the chain?
@Pm-qp6tb
@Pm-qp6tb 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks guys!
@gerryk9
@gerryk9 2 жыл бұрын
A little clearer now to me. In Out and Thru make sense to me. I still don’t understand the channels
@engageguignol7847
@engageguignol7847 4 жыл бұрын
Just solved my problem, thanks a lot!
@pierpa_76pierpaolo
@pierpa_76pierpaolo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I wanted to ask you how to get an akai mpd16 to work? I've seen a little bit around that you need a midi cable. But I don't have the classic port on my soundcard. I bought a usb midi converter but it only works in win XP version. I finally own a cable with a male din connector and ends with a jack. Can I use it with the help of an adapter? I'm waiting. Thank you very much.
@gapster77
@gapster77 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Think Inunderstand ...but what if you are DAWless? What sort of mixer do you require, and does Behringer offer anything as a solution?
@Stinger2222
@Stinger2222 2 жыл бұрын
You website uses the Joyo Cab Box as an example of controlling with MIDI. I tried this going through an Eleven Rack using the Nektar Pacer and if would not change the presets on the Joyo. ER through was set to active. Tried using the Pacer direct into the Joyo and the PGBNK commands still would not change the presets on Joyo. Saw a review where a user trying with a Boss GT-10 had same results.
@midiplaybox3453
@midiplaybox3453 5 жыл бұрын
Solton/Ketron can merge midi in with internal signal and send together from midi out.
@InkyDaCaT
@InkyDaCaT 5 жыл бұрын
Keystep into mpc live into dm12d and neutron (if not patching😉)and monostation....maybe pro one..will be added... .Ive avoided all that usb midi except on mpc if I choose it..DIN for ever ..I know someones iconnect fried his DM12😞
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