MIG-29 Review and An Interview With A Ukrainian Pilot. Why are F-16s crucial for Ukraine?

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11 ай бұрын

The MIG-29 is not suited to engage small targets such as the Shahed or cruise missiles since the aircraft's avionics and radar system are not very advanced. So F-16s are critical for Ukraine as an offensive strategy and to intercept missiles and cruise bombs beyond Ukrainian territories, potentially saving the lives of thousands of civilians. We talk about this in our video interview with a Ukrainian pilot.
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@femtoeclipse860
@femtoeclipse860 11 ай бұрын
"Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ― John Wayne. There are no better words to describe this pilots and soldiers on the ground.
@eddielee8591
@eddielee8591 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely true.
@volkerw.
@volkerw. 11 ай бұрын
Certainly true - but what would John Wayne know about it? He was an actor - and did not serve in the military.
@skoden1313
@skoden1313 11 ай бұрын
​@@volkerw.Exactly. He was just a rich guy who portrayed brave/tough guys.
@femtoeclipse860
@femtoeclipse860 11 ай бұрын
@@volkerw. serving in the military is not the only way to show courage.
@volkerw.
@volkerw. 11 ай бұрын
@@femtoeclipse860 True. But being an actor portraying brave people isnt one of them, i think. But its not important, really. The words still are true.
@countmorbid3187
@countmorbid3187 11 ай бұрын
Operating those museum pieces at that level of success is legendary on it's own. The planes look they were ready to be scrapped 10 years ago. Pls give them the badly needed F16's ...
@rustyshaklferd1897
@rustyshaklferd1897 11 ай бұрын
So do the Russian mig 31s. They’re 47 years old and were $h|+ even back then.
@frogfoot1653
@frogfoot1653 11 ай бұрын
This is not museum things .. the mig 29 can be upgraded with israel radar and weapons system ... it really depends on ukran scientist how to do it
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 11 ай бұрын
@@frogfoot1653 If you look at one in real, everyone can see immediately the differences in build and engineering.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 11 ай бұрын
@@frogfoot1653 Poland already did that. They have upgraded their Mig-29s and are sending those to Ukraine as part of a deal with the USA to get F-16s and eventually F-35s. Russian troops are not going to be happy when their armored positions start eating JDAM bombs.
@ege5804
@ege5804 11 ай бұрын
@@rustyshaklferd1897 Shit back then? You might want to check your facts again since the Foxbat and Foxhound were insanely capable interceptors for their time, even managing to score a kill on an F/A 18 Hornet and damaging an F-15 Eagle.
@vtolgorgon4080
@vtolgorgon4080 11 ай бұрын
That MiG warning system (RWR) only tells you where radars are, roughly, and what it might be from. F-16 radar can tell you what it is specifically, where it is specifically, how fast, how high, its relation to you positionally. It is an infinitely more powerful warplane. The MiG isnt useless by any means but Vipers would provide an immediate boost in potential for Ukraine.
@savagespud8038
@savagespud8038 11 ай бұрын
What radars would the f-16s in Ukraine have ?
@vtolgorgon4080
@vtolgorgon4080 11 ай бұрын
@@savagespud8038 they use AESA (Active electronically scanned array). Looks like a big honey comb hidden in the nose of the aircraft.
@slevrai9181
@slevrai9181 11 ай бұрын
like the leoprad can even detect and destroy Helicopters
@johntardigrade176
@johntardigrade176 11 ай бұрын
​@@vtolgorgon4080 I don't think the f 16s going to Ukraine will have AESA radars. Ukraine will be getting early A, B models from certain European countries that are converting to the f 35. The early f 16s use a pulse Doppler radar
@drewg7668
@drewg7668 11 ай бұрын
@@vtolgorgon4080 no they wouldn't only most modern variants have this. Most US f16 are block c/d and use pulse doppler radars.
@kroolis77
@kroolis77 11 ай бұрын
My god, how banged up those mig29s are! I really hope they get modern jets now
@Denise-vn8wz
@Denise-vn8wz 11 ай бұрын
They'll have to exhaust the old stock first to allow expensive US contracts to be approved for further weapons/craft etc. It's all about shares. Follow the money...
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 11 ай бұрын
up to six sorties a day, for comparison the US maxed out at 3 a day during Desert Storm, but usually only did an average of 1.5 sorties per day
@bekeneel
@bekeneel 11 ай бұрын
@@Denise-vn8wz That's not the issue, providing jets just has so many things u need with it, like maintenance, mechanics, spare parts etc. But I'm Glad they get F16. It will have to be the modern variants tho, the F16s originally are same area as mig29 so they could in theory be outdated as well, but im sure they'll be good, radar seems to be most important, especially cuz these aren't stealth like 5th gen F35 for example, which at some point i'm sure Ukraine will get too but only when war is over. That's the biggest vulnerability for F16, russian sams, so they'll have to fly low.. but then you can't fly over enemy territory either cuz there are manpads etc..
@radscorpion8
@radscorpion8 10 ай бұрын
@@Denise-vn8wz please...don't bring new conspiracies into this. This is not a Joe Rogan podcast where you can yell "big pharma". If you want that kind of stuff go there and join the crowd. The US has invested at least 50 billion dollars into ukraine already. Europe has donated probably a hundred billion collectively or more. This is not about the money. Its about getting the systems ready for transfer to Ukrainian pilots with all the backup supply and repair equipment that is needed. You need a lot to run and maintain an F16 so they need to get all the supply chain issues sorted, pilots trained, and so on...
@TraderRobin
@TraderRobin 10 ай бұрын
@@Denise-vn8wz The US is NOT sending any F-16s to Ukraine. The ones that are going there are from European countries! So, your right-wing narrative is nonexistent!!
@christopherkelly4555
@christopherkelly4555 11 ай бұрын
Yes, please do go on for a while! This is fascinating.
@peterkurg8169
@peterkurg8169 11 ай бұрын
Artem and his fellow pilots, and ground crew are legends. Slava Ukraine💛💙
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy 11 ай бұрын
Wow, that plane has seen some times. Glad Ukraine's getting some new planes to use, and everyone in Europe seems willing to help train pilots.
@dshaw9665
@dshaw9665 11 ай бұрын
F-16's need to be there now, so they can manage the sky better. Thanks United 24 for another lesson! Slava Ukrainia!!
@squidwarddiesel8462
@squidwarddiesel8462 11 ай бұрын
F16/f18 can launch nuclear weapons!!!! Article five world war three apocalypseis NOW!!
@Goe007
@Goe007 11 ай бұрын
US Generals (staff) and some pro freezing the war. Doesn’t want Ukraine Victory for fear of Putin going Crazy with Nukes and NATO getting involved into a Nuclear War. Therefore they give Ukraine Weapons to get exhausted into fighting and give up later… That’s why you often hear for F16 to be in Ukraine the Pilot need to got into 3 years Training. Ukrainians Pilot have proven otherwise that’s they can master F16 in 4 months max. Second argument for not delivering F16 is that “the whole US and NATO industry should be built in Ukraine beforehand for the maintenance of F16… Really!!!?? This is just for F16. How about F18, F22, F35? Those countries having have to build a space station installation in their country to acquire it !!!??? Let’s be Honest none want Russia (Putin) to lose this War because Nato and US are not Ready to mess up this world with Nukes because of Ukraine.
@stryker1999
@stryker1999 11 ай бұрын
The only way F-16s could be there now is if they were flown by western pilots. And no one is quite that bold. But we could be giving Ukraine some much needed ground attack systems to take out Ruzzian artillery and defenses, so what Ukraine flies now, Mig-29s and Su-25s with helicopters, can attack Ruzzian forces directly.
@Paulftate
@Paulftate 11 ай бұрын
​@@stryker1999Biden will not release them
@stryker1999
@stryker1999 11 ай бұрын
@@Paulftate That is a sad truth. Or more appropriately, his handlers won't allow it.
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 11 ай бұрын
I love how logical Ukrainians are. Straight from the hip on every subject. I bet these pilots will make the F-16's even more legendary. As an American, they should have them already. Americans, keep writing Joe. Make him approve our will.
@peterrauth118
@peterrauth118 11 ай бұрын
Go USA from UK 👍
@Sp1n3c
@Sp1n3c 11 ай бұрын
What ?
@markuscev4581
@markuscev4581 11 ай бұрын
F15 is legendary not the f16 lol
@tsmartin
@tsmartin 11 ай бұрын
The US and other Western powers need to supply Ukraine with any and all weapons and intelligence necessary to allow Ukraine to kick Russia out ... this means Crimea too ... and keep them out. To hell with Putin and his threats.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 11 ай бұрын
​​@@markuscev4581sk people abroad which US fighter they can name and most will say F16 first. F15 are great at scrapping close up in the air but that sort of combat is over mostly. Threats are coming from miles and miles away and ground support is 80% of the work
@fgm1197
@fgm1197 11 ай бұрын
This war shows more than all previous ones how quickly our equipment reaches its limits. Limits that nobody has taken into account in decades of peacetime. Especially to be observed with tanks and howitzers in continuous use, which we thought would last forever. It's amazing how tough these planes are and what pilots do with their limited capabilities. Just imagine having to visually identify approaching rockets. That is scary. Equipment can be replaced, you cannot. Stay save guy and gals! Слава Україні!
@TraderRobin
@TraderRobin 10 ай бұрын
Yes, and stay safe, too!!
@wizzzer1337
@wizzzer1337 11 ай бұрын
After the war ends, I wish Ukraine will bring back it's aerospace and avionics industry, the Antonov shall be ressurected!
@fatdaddy1996
@fatdaddy1996 11 ай бұрын
The West destroyed the Ukraine's military and aerospace industries because it didn't want the competition. It still doesn't. So this won't happen.
@cliveengel5744
@cliveengel5744 11 ай бұрын
Why - are you ready to pay for it. Antonov Airlines became a German company based out of Leipzig in March 2022. They are not coming back to Ukraine. There is only maintainence units in Ukraine, they have no clients anymore. Antonov was a Russian Guy and Moto Sich the Engine Producer was destroyed and the other Engine Maker for Antonov is the Kuznetsov Factory and is in Russia. There will never be another Ukrainian Plane built as they rather you give them Fighters, for nothing of course.
@tomoh160
@tomoh160 11 ай бұрын
Sure, just like every other industry that flourished in Ukraine in the last 30 years. Right? Oh wait, it hasn't. They ruined everything with their corruption and incompetence. Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe for a reason. The only country who GDP per capita dropped after the soviet union fell apart. The moment russians stopped controlling things and keeping an order, the country fell apart.
@zelenizub2036
@zelenizub2036 11 ай бұрын
Only thing Ukraine will see after the war, no matter what outcome. Is dark ages, for at least 2-4 decades. Play stupid games, win stupid prices.
@Chiungalla79
@Chiungalla79 11 ай бұрын
@@zelenizub2036 They were never asked if they wanted to partake in this stupid game. They just did what every free country is perfectly allowed to do. And the future of Russia is going to be as bleak. Loosing tens of thousands of young men is the biggest tragedy on both sides and will put both countries into demographic hell.
@sherrillwhately7586
@sherrillwhately7586 11 ай бұрын
I kept hoping the F-16 training started long ago. Been writing to my President 🇺🇸 and Senator since January about the need for F-16s in Ukraine 🇺🇦.
@doresearchstopwhining
@doresearchstopwhining 11 ай бұрын
In July 2022, Adam Kinzinger passed bill for training pilots. They should be ready as soon as the planes are ready.
@mapleleaf9837
@mapleleaf9837 11 ай бұрын
You treat this war like a game. I have two cousins in Chernivtsi. They have young children. They don't want to die for what they call "business of blood". They, and most Ukrainians I know are refusing to report for enlistment. Perhaps you and your senetor should go and volunteer instead. You're a sick sociopath.
@xKessa
@xKessa 11 ай бұрын
Its certainly possible. A lot of what we can see now might be just part of an informational war. We might know, when the war ends :D
@mikefallwell1301
@mikefallwell1301 11 ай бұрын
I would like to suggest an alternative to the F-16. The mq 28a is a stealth fighter drone developed and manufactured in Australia it could give Ukraine air superiority very quickly because you don't need a trained pilot. It uses many commercial off-the-shelf parts so it is much cheaper than a manned aircraft.
@Unknown1355
@Unknown1355 11 ай бұрын
@@mikefallwell1301 How do you propose giving Ukraine a drone that doesn't exist? The point of F-16s is that there's plenty of them around, they're integrated to multiple weapon systems and it's combat proven. Giving Ukraine a single prototype or all two of them which are not even in service is just that, fantasy.
@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge 10 ай бұрын
I admire the courage and bravery of these guys 💪 Stay strong pilots
@thes_eus
@thes_eus 11 ай бұрын
Damn. These pilots are the epitome of fearlessness. 🔱
@spacechimp6442
@spacechimp6442 11 ай бұрын
Six sorties a day sounds nerve wracking. Good luck to and God bless the Ukrainian Air Force.🇺🇦
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 10 ай бұрын
They are short missions, the MiG will only fly with a single external tank, and if it's got that tank, it's limited to 4.5g. With that limitation, an F-14 pilot once beat the MIG-29 in less than 1 turn
@ljubastojanovic608
@ljubastojanovic608 10 ай бұрын
Six entries a day, but for how long, how many days? USA plaines are notorious for need for maintenance, I am shure that one should spent more hours on maintenancec for one houor of flight for F1 than on MIG29. I doubt that F1 could have six entries in range with no maintenance.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 10 ай бұрын
@ljubastojanovic608 sustained the f-16's record was a leisurely 1.5 days indefinitely. 3/day surge, but that's because that was the tempo needed to deal with the Iraqi Air Force at it's peak.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 10 ай бұрын
@@ljubastojanovic608 btw the MiG-29 needs 11 hrs/flight hour.
@bungalowjuice7225
@bungalowjuice7225 11 ай бұрын
Sickening that we haven't started training pilots yet for F-16, Gripen etc. Should have started a year ago.
@asanitationstompout8473
@asanitationstompout8473 11 ай бұрын
Beyond sickening.
@andersmalmgren6528
@andersmalmgren6528 11 ай бұрын
There are Ukraine pilots in Sweden training on Gripen as we speak. Problem is we don't have enough planes to spare
@Jasonth131
@Jasonth131 11 ай бұрын
Sad
@59thfsaviation79
@59thfsaviation79 11 ай бұрын
How is it sickening? How are they going to get the crew chiefs, weapons guys, and specialists for this jet? How are they going to get the AGE equipment to support ground maintenance? How are they going to get spare engines and have an engine test cell so they can confirm they're putting good engines in? Who's going to supply parts? Who's going to supply missiles? You don't just give them F-16's. You're looking at years to switch airframes.
@fgm1197
@fgm1197 11 ай бұрын
Yea and it is unnecessary to give up the few F16s of the EU NATO partners which would be missing there. The US mothballed hundreds of F16s in deserts combat ready in a few months. send them already!!!!
@WasLostButNowAmFound
@WasLostButNowAmFound 11 ай бұрын
Wild Weasel F16's come on Ukraine!
@speedlover7823
@speedlover7823 11 ай бұрын
Mig 31 has those hypersonic missles also.
@Mark-jq7re
@Mark-jq7re 11 ай бұрын
God Bless Ukraine from Australia ❤
@fish1725
@fish1725 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much from Ukraine💙💛💞🙌
@hardtackbeans9790
@hardtackbeans9790 11 ай бұрын
It is a shame that training wasn't provided last summer about this time. But finally it appears to be happening. Edit: Someone has said the pilot training is a long affair & others talk about a long process of learning maintenance that takes years. These will be experienced Ukrainian pilots being 'type certified' in a new plane. They will not be new pilots. They need to learn some English & gain muscle memory in the new plane. As far as maintenance goes, Ukraine is a country that is far advanced in aerospace engineering. I don't think you will have any problem finding highly qualified techs (and even out of work engineers) that can be trained easily.
@josefernandezsmith4840
@josefernandezsmith4840 11 ай бұрын
Ummmmm actually we have been training them since last year
@hardtackbeans9790
@hardtackbeans9790 11 ай бұрын
@@josefernandezsmith4840 They started, then cut back. It was such a disappointment. There is no need to train someone on planes they won't fly. And now they seem to be getting them. Don't confuse a small evaluation group with training. The west let them down dragging their feet.
@josefernandezsmith4840
@josefernandezsmith4840 11 ай бұрын
@@hardtackbeans9790 wait and see
@eddielee8591
@eddielee8591 11 ай бұрын
@@hardtackbeans9790In that case, since the west have let them down, they should stop now?
@hardtackbeans9790
@hardtackbeans9790 11 ай бұрын
@@eddielee8591Is that what the village idiot in the kremlin is having his trolls say now? Hummm. Lay down your weapons & have the Orcs kill every one of them . . . Or continue to fight? I think I know what I would do. The West still provides them with plenty of help to do that.
@paulbarron9745
@paulbarron9745 11 ай бұрын
God protect those MiG-29 Ukrainian pilots. I cannot wait for the 16’s to get to Ukraine,
@dleechristy
@dleechristy 11 ай бұрын
They will land gloriously in Bradley Square!!!
@commandingjudgedredd1841
@commandingjudgedredd1841 11 ай бұрын
You fancy joining their air force? The thrill of being killed mid air for the glory of another country? Go on, it'll be fun.
@MrMrmoody70
@MrMrmoody70 11 ай бұрын
Neither can the Russians.
@andrewhicks982
@andrewhicks982 11 ай бұрын
Mig 29 does not want to dogfight an F16, that will end poorly 99% of the time
@dleechristy
@dleechristy 11 ай бұрын
Like the great Leopard Tank! The great Bradleys! Patriots! Storm Shadow! HIMARS will win the war any minute now! Try the V2 Rocket next. Call Steiner!!! or the great "Ghost of Kyiv" once again!!! 👻👻👻👻👻 whatever delusions will help coping!
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 11 ай бұрын
No, in a close in fight the MiG will do fine, but the F-16A with the MLU and F-16C have longer range missiles and radar than the MiG-29. So in the mid range fight, the F-16 will detect and launch before the MiG-29 can detect the F-16 using it's radar
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 11 ай бұрын
That depends very much on the pilots. The Mig-29 was a very good dogfighter. The somewhat limited range was offset by powerful engines that make it very capable. The Mig-29 turns well, out-climbs the F16 and has very good AOA. Down low in the rate fight, the F16 will beat the Mig-29 but its up to the Mig pilot to not go there. Of course, this changes as soon as you discover the F16 shot the Mig-29 down before the Mig pilot knew there was an AMRAAM with his name on it. Also, the AIM-9X missile is a murderous little beast that can turn. The Mig can shoot the upgraded Archers but I don't know if Ukraine has any of those. In a dogfight, they are closer matched than you might think. The bigger gun on the Mig will chew an F16 to pieces if it can get nose-on. But if they get into a dogfight, its because the F16 pilot screwed up and didn't shoot the Mig down before they ever merged.
@MrSuzuki1187
@MrSuzuki1187 11 ай бұрын
I wish Artem was flying for the US Air Force. We need pilots like him.
@s3cunit
@s3cunit 10 ай бұрын
We have tons of pilots like him who are passionate, enthusiastic, and extremely professional. I'm biased, but I think we have the best pilots in the world.
@PeterPerez.
@PeterPerez. 11 ай бұрын
Retro fitting is a good solution as well
@RayW808
@RayW808 11 ай бұрын
Like asking why get Chevy/Ford, you already have a Lada... 😀
@hsaurid
@hsaurid 11 ай бұрын
Godspeed,Хлопці! Слава Україні!
@59thfsaviation79
@59thfsaviation79 11 ай бұрын
F-16 Crew Chief for ten years here and 3 on the F-15 before that. Not an expert, but I read these comments and know that people have good intentions, but you don't just send F-16's over. First question is why didn't Ukraine purchase updated fighters over the last 20 years? That's a whole different question, but to the maintenance side of things. Any fighter, and especially the 16, takes an army on the ground to keep it running. 4 different avionics shops. Crew Chiefs. Weapons. Fuel. AGE. Engine shop. Hydraulic. Fab shop. Depot. There's engine cells that need to be built to test and then trim. How would you get parts? There's so much that goes into it. Then lets talk pilots. Teaching someone to fly the Viper, vs years of dog fighting and intercepts is drastically different. You'd be better off taking Polish 29's and upgrading them and then the current fleet or using SU-27's than trying 16's mid war. I mean hell, why not give them F-35's?
@jdogdarkness
@jdogdarkness 11 ай бұрын
I hope Ukraine gets MODERNIZED F16s. Unfortunately they will probably get 80s & maybe 90s F16s. But it will still represent an upgrade & much needed infusion of air frames.
@_Flying_Dutchman_
@_Flying_Dutchman_ 11 ай бұрын
They will get, among others, Dutch F-16's that are Block 20 MLU which is equivalent to block 50. In addition these have been updated with new hardware and software under the MLU programme up until at least 2015. (Tape M7.2, with for example the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-83 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar) So, they're gonna get pretty state of the art avionics and weapon systems, just not the block 70 that was just released.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 11 ай бұрын
Any F-16 still flying today is more modern than a Mig-29 from the 1980s. There aren't any F-16s from the 1980s still in active US service and very few from the 90s. That's actually kind of an issue with them. When you start loading them up with bombs and fuel tanks, you're exerting a lot of force on an airframe that wasn't originally designed for that kind of force. The F16 was intended to be a better dogfighter than things like the F4 Phantom and the F8 Crusader. It absolutely was and is still one of the best dogfighters in service today. But in a world of HOBS missiles and ever-improving radars and detection as well as heavier and heavier loads, the F16 is starting to show the limits of her design. There's a really good post on Quora as to why the cancelled F20 Tigershark would have likely been a better choice than the F16 for the fights the US is engaging in today vs. the 1970s when they were designed.
@victorvandillen5297
@victorvandillen5297 11 ай бұрын
F16'S is not enough, they need some E3C centuries with it. Slava Ukraine ✌️
@danielmiller3781
@danielmiller3781 11 ай бұрын
Or at least E-2C Hawkeyes, like Israel and Taiwanese are operating. Smaller and more suited to frontline use.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 11 ай бұрын
@@danielmiller3781 Russian air cover is pretty stout in some areas. That's what the F-16s are for. Would love to see the faces on the Russian commanders when their S-300 and S-400 sites start exploding as HARM missiles come screaming in.
@GameDrop23
@GameDrop23 11 ай бұрын
Great reporting
@rhondabailey9238
@rhondabailey9238 11 ай бұрын
Maybe do a video on the need for the longest range missiles to destroy putler's missiles that are widely used for genocide. How many would be needed and show a map of the distance they would have go
@jonwingfieldhill6143
@jonwingfieldhill6143 11 ай бұрын
The whole situation with Ukraine is that their allies are perfectly happy to provide equipment and personnel training to fight within Ukraine but they don't want to increase their ability to strike beyond the borders of Ukraine, If Ukraine strikes back beyond its borders with western supplied weapons the west fears retaliation from Putin. It is perfectly Ok if thousands of Ukranians die holding the line but one western soldier or civilian is unacceptable.
@regularSenseAppeal
@regularSenseAppeal 11 ай бұрын
It is solely a matter of potential for nuclear war. NATO would have crushed Russia in no time if it wasn’t for the nukes.
@swadeisno1
@swadeisno1 11 ай бұрын
Its really more a matter of does the west want Ukraine to win? Or for this war to go on for 3-5 more years.
@mikhailryzhov9419
@mikhailryzhov9419 11 ай бұрын
I wish US stopped chickening out and give Ukraine at least F-15 as well. Ukraine need air superiority.
@asterixdogmatix1073
@asterixdogmatix1073 11 ай бұрын
The Viper was actually designed to be a lightweight day time dogfighter based on lessons learnt in the skies over Vietnam. Its just that it was so capable as a multi role aircraft and because it complemented the F-15 Eagle in USAF and Israeli AF service that people forget that fact.
@whylie74
@whylie74 11 ай бұрын
Well if they're going to get vipers, they're going to have to clean up their bases and keep them spotless, or they'll lose more to FOD than manpads, sams, or fighters.
@v5e762
@v5e762 11 ай бұрын
If they were able to update the older F-16's which started test flying in 1974 according to Wikipedia why can't they update the Mig-29's to new radar and lcd screens? Wikipedia says Mig-29 first flight was in 1977 which is 3 years after the F-16.
@b.g.4353
@b.g.4353 11 ай бұрын
The new plane was made completely different to the make up of the F-16. The would quite literally need to tear it all apart to make the same upgrades which isn’t logical from a money and time stand point and also they never had a need to upgrade them until now that is.
@265justy
@265justy 11 ай бұрын
Western tech is always ahead off Soviet. 3 years off a difference is nothing. Even tough the Mig-29 was later developed into the Mig-35... The F-16V today is a totally different animal to the first production F-16A..
@v5e762
@v5e762 11 ай бұрын
@@265justy The air frame is the same only the electronics are different thats why I said they should upgrade the Mig-29 with up to date different animal electronics with a newer air frame design.
@265justy
@265justy 11 ай бұрын
@@v5e762 I agree to a certain extent considering the Ukrainians are very familiar with the Mig-29 in general... But upgrading it would take too long and the Vipers are ready to go...
@mj-np9sy
@mj-np9sy 11 ай бұрын
@@v5e762 What even is the point of asking this question? Do you not immediately go "wow there are probably aerospace technicians much smarter than me, there must be a pretty obvious reason it's unfeasible?" when you type things like this? Like, do you seriously think a ridiculous youtube comment question is going to contribute to the updating of a 50 year old flight platform?
@ReddoFreddo
@ReddoFreddo 11 ай бұрын
It's reminiscent of Star Wars the way how those fighter jets look dirty and used
@MrBenedict317
@MrBenedict317 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see a movie from director Zelensky.
@GrigoriZhukov
@GrigoriZhukov 11 ай бұрын
Because, if memory serves while a relatively newer design and meant to be an F-16 killer, the Mig-29 is not as good an aircraft.
@SorinSilaghi
@SorinSilaghi 11 ай бұрын
The F16 has been upgraded a lot since it first appeared. It's a much better plane compared to the first version. The Mig 29 on the other hand is completely outdated. It might be decent in a dogfight but the electronics are ancient by comparison, and that's the most important thing in modern air battles.
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 10 ай бұрын
the F16 now is now the same as the one when Mig29 was sold
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this 👍✈️
@MrRismm
@MrRismm 11 ай бұрын
Cool video, good luck to pilot
@M_Jono
@M_Jono 11 ай бұрын
Good , Cant wait to watch it down like flies
@conniepr
@conniepr 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! I know you must feel the weight of the world on your shoulders as being a Ukrainian pilot but like you say "You manage dispite what Russia does." I'm hoping you all will be in Ukraine soon. Be strong. Be safe! Take care! You've got this!!!❤
@millerlight2592
@millerlight2592 11 ай бұрын
We should have given the Ukranians F-16s, Heavier Armor, and way more Short and Long range air defense months ago. It could have saved so many lives.
@tveirken1
@tveirken1 10 ай бұрын
These men need those planes! I hope they fly them fast! Slava Ukraine
@WarDaddy8917
@WarDaddy8917 10 ай бұрын
The last part the Pilot was talking about is data link which is highly crucial for situational awareness
@tacticalsapper
@tacticalsapper 11 ай бұрын
Free the Wings of Freedom!
@MartinA-xh9ck
@MartinA-xh9ck 11 ай бұрын
Just give them all our F-16s we (Denmark) have already ordered F 35´s I think we have around 40 planes working and ready to kick some butt.
@randerson752
@randerson752 11 ай бұрын
While the F-16 is a step in the right direction, I think Swedish Gripen E’s or French Rafale C’s would be a better long term solution.
@dennismtz817
@dennismtz817 10 ай бұрын
F16 Block72 is superior from Gripen
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 10 ай бұрын
New build anything would be better than the F16A and B models they're going to get. All of them should be MLU (mid-life-update) models but still not as advanced as current F16C/D models to say nothing of the newest Rafales or Gripens.
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 10 ай бұрын
@@dennismtz817 For what? The Gripen was designed to take on the Soviets, operate from roads and is way easier to maintain in the field. It has some very sophisticated electronic systems.
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 10 ай бұрын
@@Clean97gti The MLU M5 brings them up to F-16C block 52 with AIM-120 and IRS-T compatibility
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 10 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner AIM-120's and AIM-9's from what I can tell
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 11 ай бұрын
One of the important factors and current disadvantages for Ukraine is having to fly low strike missions while Russia is flying high with their interceptor missions. Even with the same aircraft, the lower has a big disadvantage due to their missiles needing to use up energy to get to altitude which great decreases range for Air to Air engagements. This due to ground based radar with long ranges based in Russian territory and needing to stay below those. Being able to strike into Russia to deal with ground radar is critical to establish any parity or advantage in the air, and this absurd notion of not being openly allowed to strike into Russia will prevent any fair air to air battle.
@henrihamalainen300
@henrihamalainen300 11 ай бұрын
Ukrainian Migs can only use short and medium range missiles while Russians are lobbing long range missiles at them from the cover of their AA network. With F-16 Ukrainians would get access to longer range missiles allowing them to shoot back. At the moment Ukrainian offensives are having trouble dealing with Russian helicopters and so in order to make combined arms truly effective they need better aircraft to deal with air threaths.
@Karusika
@Karusika 10 ай бұрын
@@henrihamalainen300think about what happens when Russia learns the weak points of their gear. If they decide to build an iron dome like the US has over Guam and other places, it could also provide critical feedback america doesn’t want Russia to learn about their potential, case in point being, no one should be dumb enough to send anything within the last 20 years of age, sad for Ukraine but it’s better that way to avoid Russia understanding their faults further than they have
@henrihamalainen300
@henrihamalainen300 10 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner Those should help somewhat. Problem with ground based systems is that curvature of Earth covers low flying aircraft from radar detection. You need aircraft to spot them from further away but so far Russian fighters keep lobbing long range missiles at every Ukrainian aircraft that gets anywhere near the frontlines forcing them to stay back.
@szymonk1132
@szymonk1132 11 ай бұрын
I'm a rookie in aviation and everything but can't they just upgrade radars?
@rkkristalovich653
@rkkristalovich653 10 ай бұрын
Outnumbered, outgunned,and still they endure. Outstanding!!! Thank God!!! Slava Ukrainii!!
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad they are finally getting sent. o7 from America. Slava Ukraini!
@fish1725
@fish1725 8 ай бұрын
💙💛💞🙌
@jdogdarkness
@jdogdarkness 11 ай бұрын
Ukraine needs F16 or F18 & IDEALLY Gripen(unfortunately unlikely for a host of reasons). The US is retiring A-10s, I say send those to replace SU-25
@tomoh160
@tomoh160 11 ай бұрын
They replace SU-25's with an inferior-in-every-way A10? A10 is slower, less agile, has way less armor, can carry less weapons, has less range, etc. And it's never been tested in a proper war, all it's ever done was shoot at unarmed civilians in 3rd world countries. Like most US weapons for that matter.
@helicoptersauce
@helicoptersauce 11 ай бұрын
su 25 is better than a10
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@helicoptersauce Maybe it is, but not if they run out. They only had 16, according to the World Air Forces report by Flight Global and Embraer.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 11 ай бұрын
@@helicoptersauce At what? Getting shot down by MANPADs?
@59thfsaviation79
@59thfsaviation79 11 ай бұрын
@@Clean97gti Beat me to it. He's delusional. lol
@emrahs1
@emrahs1 11 ай бұрын
Allah yardimciniz Olsun 🇺🇦
@moffig1
@moffig1 10 ай бұрын
The F-16 training should have started in February 2022. I hope Ukraine gets the F-16 soon.
@user-McGiver
@user-McGiver 11 ай бұрын
F-16s and a few F-117s for Ukraine would be the absolute block for ruZZia!
@coolhand66
@coolhand66 11 ай бұрын
Wow those mig-29s did you see the amount of scalene on a fuselage oh my God that plane has been around a little bit. They need to be set to some remanufacturer to be manufactured
@marioshadjikyriacou3381
@marioshadjikyriacou3381 11 ай бұрын
1:29...yeah! I'm waiting santa on December 25th!
@fish1725
@fish1725 8 ай бұрын
Our pilots are the best.They showed when protecting sky on old Mig-29!Please help to win this most blooding war!With hopless and wishes from ukrainian peole!
@_tiredofidiocy_
@_tiredofidiocy_ 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see the Swedish Gripen in Ukraine, because they are less demanding on the runway
@mikeyf103
@mikeyf103 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful looking jet
@phbrinsden
@phbrinsden 11 ай бұрын
Get those F16s there! We are taking way too long. These pilots have already shown how smart they are and how fast they become proficient. Get it done people!
@jamesstreet228
@jamesstreet228 11 ай бұрын
Also the Soviet era missiles Ukraine is using are outdated. They have to maintain a link with the plane to guide them to the target. So when the pilot fires the missile he has to continue to fly behind the missile which makes him an easy target. Even a few degrees of deviation from course can break the link between the plane and the missile and the missile just flies off to who knows where. With the F16 they will have the "fire and forget" type of missiles that have a guidance system of their own. Get Ukraine the F16's NOW.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 10 ай бұрын
The biggest benefit from the F16s won't be their air to air capability. It's the increased accuracy and ability to launch modern ATG munitions. Russian air defense loses it's intimidation when you have access to modern anti-radiation bombs and missiles.
@kennethwilson8633
@kennethwilson8633 10 ай бұрын
Hope you live to get those F16s …Keep fighting and we support you.
@bonglops3773
@bonglops3773 11 ай бұрын
Let's go America give them the F16s already and equalize the battlefield...
@emilabd2616
@emilabd2616 11 ай бұрын
Once Ukrainians get f16 they will modify their mig29s with modern technology and I think they can squeeze out everything what mig29s planer can offer. With better engines and avionics this plane can outshine f16s
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 11 ай бұрын
The Ukrainians already have updated Mig-29s they received from Poland. The ability to drop JDAMs in strike missions is a big benefit. The big problem that the F16s will help with is being able to engage threats further away with AMRAAMs. Russia's anti-air capability limits the older Ukrainian fighters who have nothing to shoot back. The bigger help though has been the Patriot systems showing up in Ukraine. Russian Su-27s and Su-35s aren't as big a threat anymore.
@kessilrun6754
@kessilrun6754 11 ай бұрын
Can't go wrong with an F16 or a Gripen. Both are fundamentally similar in handling and versatility. This is awesome. Only next best thing would be the F35.
@UNSF
@UNSF 11 ай бұрын
How I really wished the pilot can touch a little on how their MiG-29s / Su-27s are now capable of, even if rudimentary, firing western missiles. It is such an engineering miracle, fusing two completely different avionics together.
@kevinfox1780
@kevinfox1780 11 ай бұрын
The West is so nutless to not do everything possible to give them F-16's.
@Jasonth131
@Jasonth131 11 ай бұрын
They should ask for the YF23 blueprints and the F117.
@epi2045
@epi2045 11 ай бұрын
Man that Mig looks like my old pair of boots I destroyed a decade ago.
@Onatyrade
@Onatyrade 11 ай бұрын
I hope there is a training program on going ,because it will only be a matter of time before the political points will be there to fully arm and support Ukraine and any other legitimate democracy from authoritarian terror. Not to do so is foolish.
@mr.muldoontoyou
@mr.muldoontoyou 11 ай бұрын
Who is going to be trained on these? Who is going to maintain these? It would take minimum of a year to train the personnel needed to fly and service these aircraft?
@crocodoc3823
@crocodoc3823 10 ай бұрын
Please, use a stabilizer for your camera. It makes my eyes hurt to watch this shaking 😅 Other then that i rly do like your videos!
@zergbonbon4770
@zergbonbon4770 11 ай бұрын
I think that 29 has more patch overs that actual original structure...
@oldmanfunky4909
@oldmanfunky4909 10 ай бұрын
That mig-29 looks like its been left parked outside for 20 years.
@richardphilpott1225
@richardphilpott1225 11 ай бұрын
Patina is everything!
@robertashton8069
@robertashton8069 11 ай бұрын
The slowness in delivering jet-fighter assets is disturbing. I love Joe B, but he was wrong in blocking Poland from donating Mig-29's.
@romeo8542
@romeo8542 11 ай бұрын
F16 is the beast in the sky
@NoName-ds5uq
@NoName-ds5uq 11 ай бұрын
Hopefully Ukraine will get the F-16 soon, but it is a steep learning curve. There is talk here of Australia’s recently(2 or so years) retired F/A-18 “classic Hornets” which have been much upgraded over their decades in service being given to Ukraine too, there are are maybe 40+ available depending on condition. We can only hope!
@mikefallwell1301
@mikefallwell1301 11 ай бұрын
The problem with sending obsolete aircraft is that they cost more to maintain. The mq 28a would be much more effective And Timely. It would put Australia on the map
@NoName-ds5uq
@NoName-ds5uq 11 ай бұрын
@@mikefallwell1301 MQ-28a isn’t yet in series production, as far as I know only a handful of pre-production models have been ordered so far. I agree that older platforms are very costly to operate, but I don’t believe newer platforms like Ghostbat would be handed over even if there were sufficient numbers because of the risk of one falling into Russian hands.
@mikefallwell1301
@mikefallwell1301 11 ай бұрын
@@NoName-ds5uq there is no danger of the electronics being reversed engineered, very valuable to test in real environment at an early stage of development, especially in such a dangerous situation.
@mikefallwell1301
@mikefallwell1301 11 ай бұрын
@@NoName-ds5uq I will bet you there are 15 or 20 nearing the end of the production line right now
@NoName-ds5uq
@NoName-ds5uq 11 ай бұрын
@@mikefallwell1301 you are making some assertions in regards to reverse engineering and production, but what are you basing them upon?
@sparrenburger2804
@sparrenburger2804 11 ай бұрын
The ukr. Airforce needs urgently new fighter aircrafts!
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 10 ай бұрын
To the pilots and crew of the UAF Slava Heroyem!!
@jeremymendoza1465
@jeremymendoza1465 11 ай бұрын
These pilots really are fighting a modern day Battle of Britain but instead of Germany it's Russia against overwhelming odds and still having success. History will remember them greatly.
@peterrauth118
@peterrauth118 11 ай бұрын
"Never in the field of human conflict....."
@nutsackmania
@nutsackmania 10 ай бұрын
Those probably have analog INS--imagine zeroing that out on the ground and then praying.
@natotvwarjimbo3461
@natotvwarjimbo3461 11 ай бұрын
SLAVA UKRAINI🎺💛💙🔰🔱💪👍🥾💤👀= FREEDOM
@tonys2957
@tonys2957 11 ай бұрын
Hmmm. Sounds like he MAY have had F-16 experience ?? ... hopefully more 1st hand experience in the very near future.
@SorinSilaghi
@SorinSilaghi 11 ай бұрын
Some ukrainian pilots have traveled to the US in the past for experience exchange so he might have seen western planes up close.
@mikester1290
@mikester1290 11 ай бұрын
My thoughts were that he's been sim or classroom trained at the very least.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 11 ай бұрын
Yeesh- I've seen aircraft in outdoor museums that looked cleaner than that.
@jeffkolln5291
@jeffkolln5291 11 ай бұрын
Give them some F-16's, with a few A-10's in there to spice it up.
@pbh9195
@pbh9195 8 ай бұрын
I hope there future f-16s will serve them well
@Darrel1200R
@Darrel1200R 11 ай бұрын
Hope he gets tagged with an S30o lol
@KillerNetDog
@KillerNetDog 10 ай бұрын
We have 125 F-16's in mothballs in the desert.. Kinda the same for the Bradleys, U.S. is phasing them out.
@jordancourse5102
@jordancourse5102 11 ай бұрын
The only thing that holds the MiG 29 back is the weapon systems. I dont think Ukraine has the modern mig 29 variants but rumor has it Ukrainian 29's were trying to use AMRAAMS since they were in low stock on the R27. I highly doubt they had access to the r77. F16 would give them better comfort, visibility, awareness with datalink more lethal weaponry (AMRAAM). F16 out classes the MiG 29 in radar and weapons capability. Flight characteristics really comes down to the pilot.
@-Muhammad_Ali-
@-Muhammad_Ali- 11 ай бұрын
Even if you bring F-15 or F-22 that would still make no change
@andreasr3828
@andreasr3828 11 ай бұрын
I'm surprized to see the comparisson with the MiG-31. To my understandig MiG-31 was not desigend to intercept fighter planes like MiG-29 or F-16 , but to down B2 and B52 over the Artic. Have there been Ukrainian planes been shot down by Russian MiG-31?
@DeadGamesSociety
@DeadGamesSociety 11 ай бұрын
Yes. MiG-31's use a slash attack, where they show up, attack, then fly away. very effective when that envelope is bigger than your enemy can see.
@Miami1991
@Miami1991 11 ай бұрын
Yes the majority of UKR Mig29s and SU27s have been shot down from standoff distances by mig31s in Belarus from R37 AA missles
@Davest420
@Davest420 10 ай бұрын
We need to get them anything that they can fly now while training for the f16s I’m sure we have stock piles of planes that we’ll never even use but are paying to keep up the maintenance on. Giving them away would save us money.
@maineusaMax
@maineusaMax 11 ай бұрын
It's very upsetting as an American in support of Ukraine. We should have sent F16'S immediately. It takes months just to learn to use them, and set up supply lines for them. They are coming, and going to make Russia pay a dear cost. Slava Ukraini.🇺🇦💪🇺🇸
@chriscalderin6677
@chriscalderin6677 11 ай бұрын
Why would you support Ukraine and not Russia?
@Apple-om5mr
@Apple-om5mr 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@chriscalderin6677cause fuck Russia, they been invading and oppressing Eastern Europeans for centuries, and it ends in Ukraine
@dominicviner6619
@dominicviner6619 10 ай бұрын
How that rusty mig 29 wasn’t shot down within a week is kinda crazy you’d think it would be over by now but no I guess Russia isn’t as deadly as we thought
@Erik-dc7bo
@Erik-dc7bo 11 ай бұрын
Give the Ukrainians what they need -- now. The concern over what putin will think is cowardice.
@renatobrito3455
@renatobrito3455 11 ай бұрын
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