If you haven't already, you should watch the recent grand finals of Total Tavern Season 5 that Turin casted. Don't want to spoil anything here, but if you like Khornate gameplay, one of the finalists does not disappoint.

@Hoobastomp I caught berserk winning that, he's also done this trick in another tournament once before. Appreciate it though 🫡

Spoiler Absolute Legend, taking all of his Wins with the arguably worst Factions

MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!!

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

SWEETS FOR MA SWEETS! SUGAR FOR MY HONEY 👀

HERESY! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULL FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!

I feel like the world eaters would be a more apt comparison… they are definitely a more one trick pony than t’au (purely cause they have no tricks besides run in and murder), and you know… khorne.

I've always felt that "melee only", even from TT perspective, was a bad call for Khorne's gameplay design. Thematic, but really narrows the game down. I mean 40k Khorne don't work that way, they still got guns, so don't get why fantasy Khorne can't have throwing axes or other more brutal ranged weapons than arrows and javelins, with less range. Same goes for Slaanesh, but atleast AoS Slaanesh started having archer units as their marauders and cavalry archers, which something fantasy should copy imo. Not that Slaanesh suffers as much due to their speed, but still, monogod factions are a little too mono.

@@prinstyrio0 I mean bows still make sense. Its very easy to imagine chaos warriors using special bows only they can pull back with crazy draw strength and special arrows specialized to do as much slicing and dicing as possible. Spread the blood to the sky! I just don't really get the obsession with melee only

@@joshuamiller7502 Personally I'd rather see the Khorne units get some kind of crazy buff that causes rampage, so they're really powerful in melee, but hard to control. Either that or give the skull cannon three extra models on ultra and give the warriors extra weapon types like two handed axes, polearms, throwing axes for marauders, that kind of thing. Khorne seems to be in a strange place to me since they are going for some kind of industrial-ish theme with the heavy armor and guns on some of the deamon units. So maybe add in Khornate human mercenaries/ auxiliaries with guns and cannons to fill gaps?

i always thought this was weird too. i thought the distinction of khornate champions was that they were these oppressive mouthbreathing berserkers who are also the pinnacle of skill with martial weaponry. like frenzied parrying and disarming and stuff.

oh no, thank KHORNE

Oh no, thank Turin

Oh no, thank the greenskins for being dumb enough to fight KHOOOOOOORNE

I will thank Corn, thank you.

There was an awesome Khorne game in the finals of the last big tournament, think it was the final match

I love the mental image of a Bloodletter having a great time 1v1ing a Swordmaster of Hoeth, just a dance of swords

He's also as much a god of Smiths as of Warriors, exulting in the creation of new means of mass death.

They also don't tend to mindlessly charge. Khornate armies do utilize the cover of the trees or choke points. Strategies are not beneath them, cowardice is.

@@Mortarion-xt9wp They know well that discretion is the better part of valor.

@@semi-useful5178 I assume that only applies if it's a weapon being created.

i think flesh hounds should have 80-90% spell resist and everyone else should get 30% spell resist, all bloodthirsters/skarbrand should get gorefeast and chosen of khorne should get berserk would be a verry nice buff

Or a stacking army-wide buff to weapon strength every time a spell is cast. So the enemy can still use spells to good effect, but it's gonna increase the opponent's melee prowess over time.

Personally I believe that "spell resistance" should be reworked. To my knowledge it only lowers the incoming dmg but not the rebuffs. In my opinion the debuffs should also be lowered.

With tzeetch getting a tricky shapeshifter & nurgle a literal maggot in a ogre What will Khrone get?

There is a few options like Arbaal the Undefeated, Egil Styrbjorn or even U'Zhul the Skulltaker

@@christianweibrecht6555 If past releases are an indication, Skulltaker would probably be FLC and either Egil or Arbaal would be the DLC Lord. As for their units, they certainly don't need much, however some more Beastmen to bolster them would be really welcome, as would the rest of the units that could be Khorne-marked, and Scyla for a SEM. They also need stat buffs.

@@lich109 but what about generic hero and lord?

@@templarknight6728 I’m not familiar enough with fantasy to say, but I can see Khorne getting some kind of battle priest units, just more support type leaders to buff or debuff nearby units to offset the lack of magic. Maybe their abilities aren’t as powerful as some magic, but they’re more than capable of sticking through a fight unlike a fragile wizard.

Best time to get back in, games great now

This was recorded before then, but yes!

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@@turinRTS thanks amigo! 😎🤘

It doesn't make sense though, Khorne is famous for its duelists, to the point Khorne's favourite Bloodletter, Skulltaker, will refuse to attack you if you just ignore him and his challenges. Those with the Mark of Khorne aren't mindless berserkers, they're soldiers trying to impress their deity, meaning they're supposed to care about and know how to defend themselves. The only ones who are known to be ravening madmen are Skullcrushers, and even then they're known as being extremely skilled warriors.

phys res, hard hitting, ITP!

@@turinRTS Ahh, I’d not noticed the physical resist! 🤦🏼‍♂️

Greenskins are just super cost efficient, that's why they are meta. Chaos units generally have better stats but are still overpriced by comparison, meaning you have way less room for fuck ups.

@@Monchegorx yea, they are cost efficient because they are cheap and shitty and rely on buffs like waaagh to increase their stats and allow them to punch up, exactly like I said. And like that thematic implementation, I would like to see them balance chaos warriors in thematic ways that don't completely sand off all their weaknesses. Khorne should be reckless berserkers who leave themselves more open than they should if it means getting that extra hit on the enemy. And nurgle should be slow but steady and enduring.

Khorne with a MD isn't thematic though, them lacking magic and much ranged support is the theme. Also Mark of Nurgle reducing speed wasn't thematic either, as Fantasy Nurgle is not supposed to be slow. Right now however, Mark of Nurgle does still have a penalty in that it reduces your melee attack.

wdym dont you love seeing the same goblin warboss for the 50th time

@@morgothbauglir8706 no you right my bad, I love watching the exact same army composition every single video! Seriously though not every match needs to trying to be meta or even trying to find new ones, just pick fun units and let em fight, it’s what Warhammers all about

Ya know what’s kinda funny is a rogue araknarok in that comp could easily help hold down a point vs that khorne comp.

@@Nubloot lol pretty much it would be basically unkillable by Turin’s army because the only anti large he brought were maybe some minotaurs that would be shredded by archers when trying to pin it down, but beepcause there’s a meta “best option” there is little to no creativity in these competitive armies, kind of sad to see

Give greenskins Lava Arachnarok Spiders in multiplayer. The mortis effect + 360 AoE would help it vs infantry.

Huh?

​@@Andy414895629I guess he got stomped by an RTK metalord and has never gotten over it

Exactly this, Khorne's units that are ravening madmen are Skullcrushers, and that's pretty much it. Even then they're known for their martial prowess.