...It helps that the Shovel Knight development team was also, you know, OPEN AND CLEAR with what they were providing in their Kickstarter...

Mighty #9 made buyers cry like an anime fan on prom night.

"It is the present year" This is an entirely correct statement.

Shovel knight he's blue he has different colored armor 8 different weapons Weapons gained within the stage Very hard 8-bit retro style Good intro stage that teaches you without text or in plague of Shadows dlc a small amount of text 8 main bosses After 8 bosses their are stages after it acting like "the willy stages" Mini bosses and can kind of choose the stage you play it's not the most linear it has a lot in common with mega man

I am trying to study game design, so i watched a lot of videos explaining what went wrong with Mighty No. 9. This was by far the best and most useful one. Thank you so much for making this video. :D

maybe I didn't play enough megaman growing up, but shovel knight feels a LOT more like a classic castlevania game that doesn't take itself seriously to me.

Everyone is talking about mighty number 9 and shovel knight, and I'm just over here playing gunvolt

"Makes you wonder if Capcom was right not to continue doing games using the Megaman formula" Well, Megaman 11 proved you wrong ahah :D

Completely agree on all points. In Mighty No. 9's case, dying is compounded not only by the mere frustration of it (as discussed) but the horribly long reload time (over 10 seconds) before you actually respawn. WHY? Shovel Knight in contrast: you die, 3 seconds later you're standing at the last checkpoint ready to make another go FOR SHOVELRY.

There is another game that some say is a "spiritual" successor to MegaMan that wasn't mentioned: The Azure Striker Gunvolt games.

According to MM8, the classic series is set in America too; look at the location of Light's Lab on the world map.

Shovel Knight is goddamn perfect

Stayed for all 23 minutes. Zero regrets. Great video man!!!

6:19 you can definitely see where Devil May Cry 1 got inspiration for its dialogue.

15:11 I almost feel like there were clashes between Comcept and Inti Creates in regards to the level designs, and they could never agree on anything. So, instead, we get this nightmare of a blender mix.

Great video! Your insight on the subject is definitely some food for thought. I can't help but wonder what your thoughts are on the other Mega Man successor: Azure Striker Gunvolt.

If the channel owner himself sounds bored and annoyed when talking about No. 9 in comparison to Shovel Knight... I think my point has been made.

20XX deserves the spot more

And the music in that first stage.... WOW! that's how you get a person ready to play their game!

I’ve felt this way for years. In fact, I’ve sometimes said that Shovel Knight is my favorite MegaMan game. Moreso than MegaMan 3 or MegaMan X.

That first stage theme of Shovel Knight still gives me goosebumps. Edit: Losing Shield Knight hits my right in the feels ;.;

I keep saying... The issues of the game come from the poor use of the dash mechanic. Also, never touched it or Shovel Knight (or really any Megaman game apart from maybe Blue Moon.) Septimal Energy was too powerful. That said, every time I look at the gameplay of MN9, I'm immediately drawn to how POORLY the dash is BRUTE FORCED into the game. Note the following: 1) At what point are you not being blatantly required to use it to get anywhere in the game? 2) When you use the dash, does enemy placement or ANYTHING in the game actually revolve around how the dash works (the way it's INTENDED to work) most of the time? 3) If the dash was removed from the game, would you ever really notice it was part of it in the first place? Would something feel missing from the way the game works? There's where the real kicker seems to be. The mechanic is placed in a game that is trying to copy the levels and feel of Megaman, without asking even once why certain design decisions were made. Why was an enemy placed HERE and not THERE? What does THIS contribute over THAT? Why were E-tanks USEFUL? The result is that it is often forced onto you instead of the player reaching a conclusion of their own will that it is useful, and it is done repeatedly.

Mighty 9 getting a sequel? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It’s 3:30 in the morning and zero yelling “what am I fighting forrrrr!” Woke my dog up

I honestly found the dashing in Mighty Number 9 to be an enormous pain in the ass. It didn't really feel like there was any benefit from it except that it's faster than shooting things to death, and it ran counter to my instinct of "Don't run into enemies." Also, the ability to infinitely air dash meant they could be much, MUCH lazier in their level design.

Also shovel knight is going on 4 playable characters and all of them have different levels and mechanics

I finally picked up Shovel Knight yesterday. And man, I can't believe I let it slip by me for so long. It's really an incredibly good game. I find it kind of difficult, mainly because I'm bad at platforming.

These game reviewing channels that put time into their videos are on the rise. Your channel is going places. I feel like your subscriber count is about to explode.

Speaking as someone who’s played Mighty No. 9 and beaten it, agreed with everything you said. Makes me want to play Shovel Knight even more! Great video!

Gosh, this video was surprisingly very informative. And by "surprisingly" I mean that several times when you made a point, I either rolled my eyes or chuckled, cause it sounded silly to me... but each time when you started to explain what you mean, I got what you mean and began to agree. You manage to get your point across really really well, so I do wish to give you some praise! Neat video!

The one thing I REALLY disliked about Shovel Knight, which was enough to nudge me into putting off finishing the game prior to Plague Knight being released (who's faster pace kept me interested), was actually the Dark Souls-esque death penalty. It left a really, really sour taste in my mouth any time those hard earned gems became unrecoverable. On my first play through, I got to Propeller Knight's stage and outright quit in frustration, thanks to all the bottomless pits and stage gimmicks making any given death a huge loss of gold. I would take a moderate lives system over this any day, especially if it was designed to only put the player back to a middle checkpoint, since that actually serves the point of "resetting" a player's moment if they start banging their head against the wall too much. Hell, I might even take a harsh lives system that makes you start over. At least actually beating that makes it feel like you accomplished something. Losing a bunch of gold and regaining it... Doesn't feel like anything at at, while failing to get it back is extremely frustrating. To be honest, Dark Souls isn't a good game. It's never been good. It'd be regarded as a mediocre ARPG at best if it didn't pander to the hardcore image, and any game trying to copy it is going to likely end up lesser for doing so. This is made worse by the fact injecting a modern day death penalty into a platformer is about the worst thing you can copy from another game genre, let alone Dark Souls. Death penalties are horrible design to begin with.

Shovel Knight is by far my favorite thing to ever come out of kickstarter. and I'd dare say it's my favorite indie platformer of all time.

Gunvolt is closer to a mega-man successor , as it really feels like a successor to the Zero/ZX games

why do i feel your fox eyes should be moving right and left continuously.

Countershade's stage was not easy. Having insta-kill electric wires cover areas of the map you thought you had memorized while also having to deal with Countershade's constant sniper fire that can peek around walls thanks to these unintuitive magic spheres was not fun. Not to mention THERE WERE NO CHECKPOINTS. Worst stage in the game, by far.

Watching this video gives me so much more appreciation for Yacht Club than I did before. I knew Shovel Knight was great, but I didn't realize just how cleverly and well-thought-out its level design and structure as a whole was. Yacht Club seriously knows what they're doing and it's no wonder Shovel Knight is such a beloved title. Makes me anxious to see what they'll come up with next!

I think that the limited lives system can be pretty good when the game is designed correctly. Mega Man had pretty good level design (except for Mega Man and Bass), so the life system was pretty good in my opinion, especially in challenging games such as Mega Man 9. Mighty Number 9 failed on level design, so the life system was bad.

Team shovel knight

Shovel Knight is one of my favorite games.

and now we have Mega Man 11 + the one good thing about MN9, is the design of the boss robots

Mighty No 9 tryed to focuse too much on story and the gameplay flooped. Shovel Knight had a simple story but focused primarily on the gameplay.

Excellent video. New subscriber, and hope to continue to enjoy high quality criticism like this in the future.

Now I want to make a driving game with ducks as a hazard.

I do confess the one most frustrating thing in M-#9 was I took it like a Megaman Style game and suddenly was like: "Wait hold on... I'm blasting this boss maverick but he's just NOT going down! What am I doing wrong?!" Then later realized the Xel dash was needed to defeat bosses lol wow X'D It's not god-awful but this can be a bit frustrating for: -first time players, -veterans who never knew about that (like me), -when in a pinch and hoping to end a boss fight

I think nostalgic expectations allows for so much criticism. We had no expectations of Shovel Knight. We expected Mighty #9 to recapture yet reimagine our nostalgic experiences. It simply will end up falling short because it's not Mega Man.

The creators of Mighty No. 9 probably did the kickstarters to make some *bank*. When it worked, they made a cheap, uninspired game so they could keep all the dough they earned and never look back. The creators of Shovel Knight actually told you what you where paying for and where a humble, obscure studio at the time.

Enjoyed the analysis man. Using Shovel Knight to contrast Mighty No.9 was a good idea, and works well to display how one adopted and innovated, while the other kinda updated but regressed. Only thing I'd say is you might want to emote just a little more. Nothing crazy, just inflect a little bit and you'd be good.

Plague knight is one of the best characters conceived in a video game and I will die on this hill

Good video! You deserve more subs, which is why I'm subbing. High quality content from such a tiny youtuber is hard to find nowadays

You pretty much got it perfectly. If I were to describe Mighty No.9 with one word, it'd be "outdated".

You're really good at analyzing games. I'm glad I watched this video. Keep it up!

Hollow knight has the Same level of difficulty compared to shovel knight each time you die in hollow knight you feel like you did something wrong the same way each time you die in shovel knight

this is a a really good video, Do you plan on making more in this style in the future? also I was honestly shocked to see you had less then 700 subscribers because this video was great.

Hey, atleast we got Azure Striker Gunvolt, Azure Striker Gunvolt 2, Mighty Gunvolt, and Mighty Gunvolt Burst

Hey. Just like some others here, I'm totally into game design, or to be more specific, I'm a programmer who wants to code video games in the future. Therefore I'm 'collecting' every video about game design that I can find, and yours are pretty good. So thanks for giving me some more insight on what makes a good game, and don't stop doing what you're doing. Have a nice day.

Hey Kids! One of these characters doesn’t belong! Is it: Shovel Knight, Beck, Hollow Knight or Mega Man?

This video is done really well. Solid job on the video! Keep up the good work!

I finally got shovel knight a few days ago and I can agree it's amazing

Wow! Great video review and your points of view! We loved it here!!! Big fans now of your channel

1:30 That has some _interesting_ connotations

So glad you mentioned Egoraptor's video. That's a masterpiece when it comes to talk about what megaman does good.

Mighty No. 9 takes the good and the bad from Mega Man, while Shovel Knight takes the best aspects of many NES games, and puts a modern twist on it.

"Mole Knight's stage has this in spades." *ba-dump, tss*

As far as true successor to Mega Man goes, it basically boils down to three games: Shovel Knight, Azure Striker Gunvolt and Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures. All three I can get on Steam, all three done in 8 to 16 bits graphics, all three I really need to beat one day (just like the original Mega Man which I am still trying to master at but I only got done the first three).

This game was a great example of good concept, terrible execution.

The true successor to Megaman is a little project called Megaman 11

Love me some Rocky Horror, liked the video even more.

So this video appeared on the home feed, and like what, how did it get there you only have like 30 subscribers! I'm very glad I did stumble across it though this is good stuff.

Top notch video and content you've got here. Def earned a subscribe from me. I too saw this featured on the top level of youtube. Hope that keeps happening for you so your channel can expand. Looking forward to more of your content.

Ummmm. Please don't include massive game spoilers without a warning. I haven't played Shovel Knight yet and it sounds like now I know the ending. Despite trying to skip ahead when I saw that part.

Wow this video was great, I loved how you built up the antici

I havent played shovel knight, but from what I gather it looks like megaman had a baby with ducktales

3:06 HAX MONEY BABY

why are you talking about shovel knight when there is a more accurate megaman esque game in gunvolt?

I want a successor to Battle Network (and by extension Star Force). I love X and Zero but Battle Network has always been my favorite. Ironic because I didn't like it at first cos it was very different from traditional Megaman but boy how I ate my words later on in terms of enjoying it. I still go back and play the games from time to time and its every bit as good as I remembered it. Used to look forward to my annual dose of Battle Network and Zero on the GBA every year, those were the days. Sad that Star Force only got three entries and ZX two on the DS.

on the first megaman you didn't get to save or even have a password system. there was a great risk for losing. it gave you insentive to play your best and look for all the secrets and made them all that special. that is what modern games are forgetting to do, give the player risk.

It looks like mighty no. 9 was just too nostalgic. It brought back the memories of bad level design and cheap deaths that were a big part of mega man baxk in the day, while Shovel knight brings back the good memories and leaves out the cheap deaths and bad game design that people tend to forget when thinking about the classics.

Now we can all sleep soundly at night thanks to the successful recent release of Mega man 11!

this was made before mega man 11 was announced

I couldnt gelp but think of Egoraptor screaming at every title screen

Plot twist: it was mega man 11

The mighty doesn‘t even deserve to stand next to Shovel Knight

2:02 "What demon from the depths of the Hell created thee!?"

Great video man! Subscribed! Looking forward to checking out your other stuff too.

Great video, thanks for uploading it.

Loved the video dude, you may have just sold a copy of Shovel Knight.

Who is here after mega man 11?

Love your channel man. Hope it grows crazy. Just figured it out. Keep it up

Being someone who arrived to the final boss, lost and then deleted the damn game (Mighty) I have to add that countershade`s level was far from a cakewalk.

I know alot of people say this, but I'm being serious when I say YOU NEED MORE SUBSCRIBERS! Your scripting is good, your editing is great and you seem like that kind of guy that does his research. You sir, just gained a subscriber. Hope you reach 1,000 soon!

This is a really interesting video on a topic I thought would be too obvious, good job! You deserve more subscribers man

The green enemies that are affected by lava are called blorbs. There's an official enemy list on the Yacht Club Games website.

You forgot the part that makes it the true better game The half a step forward when you flick the control stick

I never heard of mighty no9 until I saw a playthrough of it, after release of course

I just got thru the 20 minutes without noticing. Nice job, congrats! :D

I think that the live system can be good if used correctly.

I can't hear or see any reference to Rocky Horror without binging on it immediately after.

Megaman takes place in America. If you look at the boss select screen in either Megaman 7 or 8 (I'm not sure which) when you go over to Dr. Light, his location on the globe was in the United States a little ways above Texas I think. Besides, you can see that many places in the real world do exist in Megaman through the levels or just looking at that globe. Just a little fun fact.

MegaMan: Beck, Shovel you two are greater successors. Amd beck I'm your series did not go as planned... Beck: It's alright rock at least I was GV's games.

Thats good shit my dude. I played through both campaigns of shovel knight, and I agree with all of the points you made. Good commentary my dude.