Agree 100%, many leaders that have been there for 20 years, resigning one after another. Chris, no one is cheering on the ELT. I can't stand this wretched system what was supposed to be Christ's church.

Sorry just now heard about the drama. What happened?

Exactly

This ministry is ☠️

And the elitism - sexual immorality - witchcraft homosexuality etc is all still thriving

@@Tendervittleit means 1 thing, it's not for you. Move on.

To me, it means, don't camp on the past for the rest of one's life. A lot of people I met still talked about what happened in the past as in 1950s, 60s & so on. The bitterness is displayed in public. Why would the Bible say this if it's wrong to get move on. Isaiah 43:18 says... Forget what happened in the past, and do not dwell on events from long ago. Philippians 3:13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead. So, we have free will to do what to what we want with our lives.

Sorry just now heard about the drama. What happened?

I agree with you. I believe Mike Bickle is not a Christian. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Anyone who is using scriptures such as “shipwrecked faith” and such is using it because they looked up to the guy for such a long time that admitting he isn’t a Christian would be difficult for the person.

Totally.

You have a picture of Benni Hinn! You need help

@@mikemuncy7464 help with what?

@@mikemuncy7464such a sickness

That's going against the teachings of Jesus. God said we shouldnt forsake the asembling of ourselves together especially in these days, the church is not perfect but its still better than the world out there! And praying at home is not the same as the church.

Agreed him and Rick John Joiner are trying to justify their belief as Bob Jones is a prophet and all this prophecy needs to be thrown in the trash. That's all Mike Bickle was trying to do was justify and lift himself up and have everybody look at him as somebody special.

No offense, but Jan Crouch was the only preacher Barbie who ever lived. lol ;-)

@@MJBever none taken your comment made me laugh! 😁🙏

🎯

He's speaking to the church not Mike. Is the congregation to be blamed for another mans sin? ⛔ it

I agree

The end time delusion that will lead to the great falling away

They said nothingburger - what a lie

Chris Reed is a false prophet and a FRAUD. I just did a deep dive on him when I learned that he recently took over the church I used to attend. Morningstar was my church, and when Rick Joyner retired, Chris Reed took over, and something about him made my hair stand on end, so I needed to know more. I’ve watched him and seen him in action. He uses the exact same tricks and techniques that fake psychics and mediums (like John Edwards) use. But now he also uses technology and the internet. At the prophetic conference last month (Nov 2023) he actually used his cell phone right on the podium in plain view. It’s HIS ministry, so he has access the registration list for the conference. So he can access the names, addresses, and phone numbers of everyone attending. When the person whose name he called out, stood up, he’d play dumb and say… “I’m seeing this number…does that mean anything to you?” Knowing full well it’s their street address or last four digits of their phone that he just got from the registration list. Another example is, sometimes he’d say he sees something weird like a rose lying next to a tiger (and pretend to be all puzzled)… knowing full well that the name of the street they lived on was Tiger Rose Court. So the person would be astonished and amazed. (not to mention the audience) In some cases, he even looked up their Facebook profiles to get names of family members or pets or other personal info like jobs or schools they attended. And if their profile was public, he could even skim one of their posts for useful info that “no one else could know”. Then while he had their attention, he dribbled out all these little details, making it look like he was hearing it from God, and those poor people would fall for it. Those were real crowd pleasers and created the most shock and awe. Chris Reed is dangerous. He uses the same tricks that fake psychics use, but he goes a step further by using the internet as well. But the worst part is that he’s fooling people in the name of Jesus and calling himself a prophet of God. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Look at his YT channel and check out the titles of all of his videos. The titles of his sermons are all sensationalized, bragging, attention seeking, and glorifying himself. True prophets are humble. This guy oozes pride and self-promotion.

I have thought the same thing!! “Morningstar”

Very true. Leaders come and go if ihop is just about Mike Bickle then it’s not a minisrty set on the foundation of Christ. If Christ is the foundation then to remove or fix what’s causing the foundation to fall will be reset and they will rise up and move on. If Mr Bickle is trusting God then if he steps aside to let God actually do what He needs to do will only help the ministry. But if he stands and refuses to move out the way it will crumble down upon him… prayer was and is instituted by HS not man… when they actually allow a real third party outside of this organization to investigate it all it will bring in the full Justice of God for all sides. But to continue denying a third party investigation only adds to picture irresponsible conduct and behavior of the entire leadership team. Rememeber these words… “ be sure your sins will find you out!”

Amen

Agree, was very tone deaf

Chris is the clean up man gotta keep this cash cow going

Remembering Lot's wife was about people wanting to return to the pig pen and wretched sin as far as I read that.

just because Mike has charisma doesn’t mean he’s guilty. Too early to condemn him as guilty at this point

@@SS-bd2rinot after Todd Bentley/Paul Cain/bob jones. Mike is toast and he knows it

Mikes role in Paul Cains failed restoration 2004-2007 with Morningstar especially stands out. They deemed Paul unrestored yet here’s Chris leading Morningstar as a spiritual son of Paul Cain. I love Chris’ gifting its amazing but to stand here and preach Lots wife within two weeks from this news breaking feels very off and awkward, along with Ricks comments on Miles assumed innocence and the accusers. Very bad look after Todd Bentley process resurgence and his responses a few years ago. Its not just that Mike is another one, but he never even let Bob back on stage although no actual intercourse happened in that case. Statistically speaking 92% of these complaints turn out true so theres almost no way nothing happened here. The hypocrisy is astounding and heartbreaking. We also shouldn’t act like nothing happened until a third party process is done. That seems a classic institutional defence mechanism, just ignore and push on. No that would be unhealthy if even a kernel of this turns out true.

@@christianwoudenberg3393 this is a cash cow - Chris is the clean up man - this is all hillbilly spirituality/the end time delusion that leads to the great falling away. The church is so desperate for entertainment that it forgot to be out doing the works of Christ. The whole thing is a sickness

Why turn the blind eye on the fact that most women on the accuser's list totally denied the charge made using their names? Using your number, 92% of complaints turned out true means that 8% were falsely charged. Also, other's sins have nothing to do with whether Mike committed the similar sin. Your comment seems to be simply a reflection of your personal feeling against Mike. The fact is that most accusations were already proved as false by the women's denial. One is hiding away without any credible evidence. The last one is insisting on a few decades old incident without any proof. Of course the further investigation need to happen about this woman and Mike's history before we can all say whether Mike is innocent or guilty. But with the way it's been going so far, she and the accusing group also need to be investigated for their credibility in this matter. @@christianwoudenberg3393

1:50 - 2:07 rewatch

Chris Reed is a false prophet and a FRAUD. I just did a deep dive on him when I learned that he recently took over the church I used to attend. Morningstar was my church, and when Rick Joyner retired, Chris Reed took over, and something about him made my hair stand on end, so I needed to know more. I’ve watched him and seen him in action. He uses the exact same tricks and techniques that fake psychics and mediums (like John Edwards) use. But now he also uses technology and the internet. At the prophetic conference last month (Nov 2023) he actually used his cell phone right on the podium in plain view. It’s HIS ministry, so he has access the registration list for the conference. So he can access the names, addresses, and phone numbers of everyone attending. When the person whose name he called out, stood up, he’d play dumb and say… “I’m seeing this number…does that mean anything to you?” Knowing full well it’s their street address or last four digits of their phone that he just got from the registration list. Another example is, sometimes he’d say he sees something weird like a rose lying next to a tiger (and pretend to be all puzzled)… knowing full well that the name of the street they lived on was Tiger Rose Court. So the person would be astonished and amazed. (not to mention the audience) In some cases, he even looked up their Facebook profiles to get names of family members or pets or other personal info like jobs or schools they attended. And if their profile was public, he could even skim one of their posts for useful info that “no one else could know”. Then while he had their attention, he dribbled out all these little details, making it look like he was hearing it from God, and those poor people would fall for it. Those were real crowd pleasers and created the most shock and awe. Chris Reed is dangerous. He uses the same tricks that fake psychics use, but he goes a step further by using the internet as well. But the worst part is that he’s fooling people in the name of Jesus and calling himself a prophet of God. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Look at his YT channel and check out the titles of all of his videos. The titles of his sermons are all sensationalized, bragging, attention seeking, and glorifying himself. True prophets are humble. This guy oozes pride and self-promotion.

When you don’t clean things out the spirits just stay

Exactly 👍🏽

Close the doors! They are heretics

This ministry is dead

He's telling the ihop church members to not let what's happening effect their walk with Jesus.

@@kimwagner7347 IHOP is a cult. Reed and Michael Brown etc… are telling all the people within IHOP to not pay attention to what’s going on. No, just read your Bibles and follow Jesus never mind if Mike Bickle and who knows who else of the leadership team, are sexual predators. They’re trying to keep control of their gullible sheep

Or their walk with ihop

Haaaaaaaaaaaa

Being there for who? For the multi million dollar IHOP corporation? Chris Reed, Rick, Joyner, and others do not give a crap about the victims. All they care about is preserving this corrupt wicked “ministry.”

Apparently facts don’t matter to you. How sad. These people knew back in the Spring about these allegations. Look on KZfaq and find facts. Facts aren’t LIES! And they are FLAT OUT LYING! David’s life was a mess! And we read about the facts in the Bible. Hmmm… people need the truth. Knowing the truth isn’t wrong. If they would have been HONEST, people wouldn’t have to look! Questions should be answered because that is TRANSPARENCY! And one case is a 19 year old girl, who had an intimate relationship with Mike Bickle for 4 years. One person is TOO MANY!!!! IHOP is covering up, BIG TIME!

So you’re saying we are not to discern the body and put defences up for the sheep when there’s sounds of a wolf in the camp? To think the institution built by and around this man is fit to sort it is asinine, we’re looking for true impartial elders in the body to make sure the process is t self preserving but holy. Ihop is not equipped to do this themselves

@@christianwoudenberg3393 No I’m not saying that at all. But it’s clear that they used women’s names when they were told not to by the women. Read John 8:3-11. A person is innocent until proven guilty. We’re not the judge, God is and He will make sure the Truth it’s revealed. Until then let those without sin continue cast the first stone. Send like a lot of stones have been cast already. I’m not judging the accusers or him. I can leave it in Gods hands.

You read how Paul dealt with these situations! Innocent until proven guilty is an American judicial standard that is not scripture. Above reproach is the biblical standard. Even if one of your kids fall or dont follow Jesus you cant be an elder according to scripture. There is reproach and Mike should stand down as he is but how this process is handled is atrocious. He said “God is about to bury whats chasing this ministry”, and telling people not to look back a week after abuse allegations surface. That is institutional self defence and placing ungodly yokes on these poor people.

Jesus’ example of casting the first stone is not symbolic for discerning the body, it was literal for stoning a woman to death. Jesus rightly judged pharisees and Paul judged those abusing the flock. I recommend you read A Church called Tov by Scot McKnight.

FSA

He’s a fake and a deceiver.

His deep revelations? Really? You may as well be following Joseph Smith and his revelations. Stop following man. The Holy Scriptures and the Holy Spirit are enough.

You are deceived

You are deceived

Their desperate for cheap entertainment/easy to see how swamp daddy trump is their messiah 🤢🤮

Definitely! he is false

The Egyptians? Gods going to fight for the women at the well. Hello.

forgive me, I overlooked the date. you call someone who supports, is faithful, does what he said he would do a clown. Chris is known for receiving words for people; it's surprising even for people who seek the gifts of the spirit. Earnestly pursue love, and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, and especially that you might prophesy. I Cor 14:1. He is not a clown. Jesus is listening. It is an error to abuse others, for example, to dismiss another who has done what we do not know, and to try to affect others' view through abuse. You have overlooked much more than the date, Amen.

@@jpfullerton Reed throws out random words he finds on unsuspecting visitors social media along with a probable familiar spirit. His "words" are vague and meaningless. Reed believes that the Apostle Jon is in a cave in Turkey alive and well!!??? Bizarre. Morningstar Ministries, Chris Reed, and Rick Joyner are making merchandise of the gullible. It is not biblical to charge thousands of dollars to "learn how to be a prophet" in their prophecy schools, dream schools, etc while recruiting followers to work for free to expand their earthly kingdom. Reed speaks gobbledygook much like Chuck Pierce, another false teacher. Gods going to fight for the Egyptians? What? This response to sexual abuse at IHOPKC was a "nothing burger". How about standing behind the victims instead of behind the mega church. Morningstar is in the same false doctrine circle as IHOPKC. All about greed and coverup. Shameless

@@jpfullerton HE is definitely listening. And these false prophets sell doves in the temple wake up

The one where he growls about Mike praying psalms with his victim? It was EXCELLENT

Do you even know how a cult is defined? Lol.

@@jameslinmd what's you're definition

@jameslinmd anyways did you live in Kansas city and attend Ihop and spend hundreds of house in the prayer room and watch Students turn in their prayer journals and watch students congregate around shelly hudley in the hallway to here her current revelation from God ?

@@optimisticallycynical.814 I didn't use the word "cult". The onus is on you to define it, wisecrack.

@@optimisticallycynical.814 Shelly Hundley? Dating yourself haven't you? Lol.

quite a pickle indeed. On the level of Pickle Rick.

Lol, actually Bickle wanted someone touch his Pickle..

Gobbledygook as usual for Reed in his weird whisper voice that is supposed to convey holiness? Disgusting. Standing behind the mega church, and Grieves instead of behind the victims and allowing them to come forward in a safe environment! Just another Hillsong, Todd Bentley, etc.....Makes me sick

He’s not only VAIN IMAGINING BUT Strongly delusional. Just shut these prophets down. Nothing they say bares out. Stay in the Word for A WORD. He is the WORD. God did not send this man I’d MORNING STAR.

@@Psalm91-1this is all such a sickness 🤢🤮

@@PatButynskiAbstractArtshut this cult down-this guy is a clown