Facts!!!

wow somebody who takes all factors into account 😂

Yeah, I don’t remember the last time I saw one.

But it will look like a bad move because jj will thrive on that stacked Vikings offense

The media wants NY to suck so bad

⁠@@BigBlueBen”Stacked Vikings offense” Our offense isn’t stacked & their OL is much better. Situations matter for rookie QB’s

@@brandonmoyd2942 yes that’s what I was saying?

@@BigBlueBen “It will look like a bad move” What you’re saying is wrong that’s what I’m telling you. Nabers was the right move every offense needs an elite weapons which NYG didn’t have before. Now they do for their future QB

Facts!

Facts! 2nd 💯

Absolutely…well said

If it was really our guy we would have made it happen.

@@ceezy585 it’s a little different when the team your trying to trade with wants the same QB lol I doubt any trade would of made it happen honestly, and if there was a price it would of set this team back. It’s not like they’re a QB away from competing, the entire roster needs retooling. Can’t build around your rookie QB if you gave up 3-4 years of 1st round picks etc lol

Exactly and if the Patriots DID trade the pick for a modest return, everyone should have been questioning their grade on Maye. I think he’s a potential bust candidate but what do I know.

All the Giants had to do was lose a couple of meaningless games last year and they would have gotten the QB they wanted. This team shoots themselves in the foot all the time.

DJ was a super reach!

Daniel Jones was the biggest reach at #6!!!

Yeah 85 sacks given up is an embarrassment to the game. Where DJ took 30 something sacks in the first 5 games with 11 of them coming against a mid Seahawks defense at best.

Facts!!!

Jones is trash

and where did that get you guys? he’s not a top 40 QB in the league.

@@prestigeshogun1534 No quarterback alive would succeed with the receivers & o lines he's played with. the owner said as much

Pretty much. DJs career has been ruined by the Joe Judge and DG regime.

I remember Earl Morrell back in the 60's. He was the starter for the Giants and they were in the cellar. Traded Earl to the Colts and he took them to the championship the next year.

He's an UDFA. Didn't spend a draft pick on a QB.

Smart in not drafting Darnold or Rosen; yet they weren’t smart by drafting a RB with that number two pick and passing up Josh Allen who went number six. Even passed up Quinton Nelson, picked at number four who could’ve been a strong building block for that offensive line.

Whining over a sixth round pick that was used mainly for special teams; a player the new special teams coach wanted. And crying crocodile tears because they didn’t draft the strong armed QB you wanted who’s very inaccurate, badly inconsistent and has a much lesser chance at development. Some of you casual fantasy football fans are very delusional, overemotional and bipolar. You’re no longer a Giants fan? Cool. You were never a true fan to begin with because a real fan sticks with their team through the good times and the bad. You will not be missed, go root for the Jets. Fairweather casual.

It actually sucks that the media continues to crap on him.

@@adonijahdelancy6722 They can't think or watch the games where he was getting wrecked for themselves. He always gets up.

Herbert has Allen, Williams what you mean

It’s year 6, and he hasn’t gotten any better. Let it go.

Great point👍

He sucks.

One more losing season and pick up a QB next year. Keep Jones on the bench as a back up after that.

He’s going through a divorce rn

@@KumaManiaRunninWild I might feel sorry about that but in all honesty, I can care less because if I was going through a divorce, I would still have to show up to work and be productive

The giants simply dont want to win 10 years of foolish draft picks justin pugh etc they paid danny pennies & let Quads walk sorry they dont want to win penix right now is an upgrade danny is buttcheeks

None of the QBs in the NFC are franchise changing. The only one who’s franchise changing is Mahomes and many QBs in the AFC They already invested a lot of draft picks on the OL and spent a lot of money on the OL in free agency. They weren’t spending more draft picks on linemen.

lol cyclops

Guaranteed by week 3 half those guys are injured

That won't happen. Not at all. Schoen and Daboll's leash are MUCH longer than most casual fans think. Steve Tisch is running this operation at this moment, as he threatened John Mara at the end of Joe Judge's reign. Mara wanted to keep Judge and Gettleman for stability, but Tisch said to let them go and to look outside the organization, or Mara would lose Tisch's 50% stake in the Giants. Schoen and Daboll are under contract with Daniel Jones for one more year, then they will get their guy. THAT is when the clock starts on their regime pressure.

So more of the same bullshit that the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions went through, eh? Zero consistency, zero structure, constant turnover, no production, dead last in all stats, over, and over, and over, again, and again, and again. Rinse, recycle, repeat. That's precisely what you are suggesting. Short term results, long term failure. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it. Rethink your strategy, and go root for another team if you can't handle patience and payoff of building a contender for the long haul.

Didn't like that comment, huh? I'll reword it then. Obviously, you don't watch football, or the Giants for that matter. So when someone comments back and gets under your skin... oh baby... can't handle that heat, can you? Take your Russian bot poop and laughing emojis elsewhere. To an Eagles fan page, perhaps? Or just elsewhere in general.

So you do exist... shocking. Alright then, to answer your first question. Either a QB in the 2025 draft, or Drew Lock, if he fits the Daboll/Kafka mold. Most likely the former, Quinn Ewers, Carson Beck, Cam Ward, or that kid from Texas A&M. As for your second question, Shurmur, Judge, and Gettleman... Dave Gettleman was hired as a familiar face to the franchise, as he worked in the Giants front office before. He hired Pat Shurmur, who was a little soft as a head coach. Good coordinator, don't get me wrong, but bad track record as a head coach. (Those Browns I had mentioned in my comment that was taken down) He was the coach that SHOULD have been Daniel Jones' teacher, but a 4 win season derailed that idea. So out Shurmur went. Joe Judge... HA!!! He had ZERO business being a head coach. But, Gettleman and Giants' ownership saw the Harbaugh/Ravens thing and tried to mimic that. A 6 win, 4 win, and lost lockeroom later, out the door he went, along with Gettleman. However, there was a report that Mara wanted to keep Judge for consistency sake. (Back around when Joe Judge got fired. You can look that report up if you'd like) My speculation, as you put it, was the abrupt turn that Mara took to firing Judge and Gettleman and hiring outside of the franchise. Just reading between the lines, that's all. One more example for you, go rewatch the Giants' war room in this year's draft. Look at how much Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll interact with Steve Tisch versus John Mara. It leans Tisch's way more, which kinda validates my original point, just a hair. That should answer a few of your concerns about my original post. Anything else you'd like to add to that, my good Ukrainian sir?

No problem, glad I could help. Come back again if you'd like to talk some more football.

You still need to find someone that you believe in to replace him. They obviously didn’t like any of them where they were at

Why is Jones bad, though? The dude was running for his life behind a rubbish line and no options

Nope, just riding with the guy they are still under contract with for the next year.

@@20Unknown Let's see how they do this year 😆

@@BlueBarrier782 That's the idea. Wait and see... unfortunately.

yeah and where did that get you?! he’s not a top 40 QB.

That is true. Washington and the giants are though. That's why he said it would be unprecedented if the giants would have traded up to the 2nd pick with a division opponent.

How about signing Dak next year?

Yeah let’s just keep puking our guts out and turning over coaching staffs that’s the answer never give anyone anymore than 2 years🙄

That won't happen. Not at all. Schoen and Daboll's leash are MUCH longer than most casual fans think. Steve Tisch is running this operation at this moment, as he threatened John Mara at the end of Joe Judge's reign. Mara wanted to keep Judge and Gettleman for stability, but Tisch said to let them go and to look outside the organization, or Mara would lose Tisch's 50% stake in the Giants. Schoen and Daboll are under contract with Daniel Jones for one more year, then they will get their guy. THAT is when the clock starts on their regime pressure.

Unfortunately I think Daboll wants survive a disaster 2024 with jones. I think Daboll will get another job though.

@@scruffd0g193Daboll will survive for sure. But just protect the QB. Y’all forget y’all gave up the most sacks in nfl history in the modern era right? 85 sacks is an embarrassment, no wonder why he got injured, Tyrod got injured, and a 3rd stringer got playing time.

​@@juliusjean-baptiste924For real it is crazy how so many people crap on Jones for being bad but then they just don't mention thr fact that the Oline was basically parted like the red sea most of the year. The number of plays where I saw one of the line men just watch the defender as they ran by was crazy to me. Jones may not be the best qb out there but the guy can play I mean just look at what he managed to do 2022 season with limited weapons. Everyone just needs to chill and give him a chance when he should have some better protection and potential weapons this season and then we can go from there.

More like no thanks

We already have a bridge QB in DJ, why tf would we trade for an even older option and give up assets for him ? Lol

He didn’t take a QB cuz there wasn’t one worth taking at 6 and they weren’t his guy. You don’t love a QB, you don’t take them. Reaching for one for the sake of it will ultimately get someone fired. That’s how y’all got DJ. Rather take BPA which was a position of a major need, more than a QB.

@@juliusjean-baptiste924 if yu dont love a QB, you dont sign them for 4 years 160 million either.

@@johnniep405 They didn't have a choice. They had no other options after that season, and 40M is about an average QB salary now. There were no better options in FA, they were picking in the mid 20s in the draft so trying to replace him and reset the clock would cost them selling the farm 2x over to move up into the top 3, and weren't any better guys available via trade. Lets not act like the Giants didn't offer Saquon a contract which happened to be similar to what he took from the Eagles. They did, he turned it down. Options were very limited and ownership likes DJ.

@@juliusjean-baptiste924they had a choice. Franchise tag him. If they did that sequon wouldn’t be an eagle and jones would be on the market. Bad choices, bad results. My biggest fear is a repeat of game 1 last year. Don’t get me started on even Neal…

@@johnniep405 QB is the most important position and the first priority. Franchising QBs get costly and expensive and it’s something no franchise likes to do. RBs will always get the tag in that situation. They did offer Saquon a deal north of $11M a year but he turned it down and bet on himself. That’s what happened.

Jalen Looked great last year down the stretch. Thank God they keep adding elite talent around him just to look mid as a passer.

​@@rjdav15 lol Agreed 😂

Dude went to a SB and is a winner period. I hate the eagles but that dude is better than jones. What has anyone seen in him???? It’s year 6 and it’s the same excuses! And stop with the line gave up all these sacks. Jones is responsible as well. For example… look at week 1 against the cowboys. This dude was chased to his left and instead of THROWING THE BALL AWAY he ran out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage equaling a sack!

@@terrencethomas4787 he's a winner on a great roster period. Couldn't imagine his OL giving up the most sacks in NFL history and throwing to scrubs that won't bail him out like smith and brown do. Hurts is mid. Put him on the Giants the last 5 years and he'd be reciting extra sappy instagram quotes and bible verses lol.

@@rjdav15yeah but he’s not and he’s a top 3 QB in the league. Not even an Eagles fan.

Yes u will…

I don’t get the loyalty to this bum