Tell me about the volume and intensity you did then and now. Did you change anything? I have the same problem btw. Training 6 times a week and plateauing a lot.

I’m going to rest more days. I won’t go an entire week, but I’m going to start out by adding an extra day and see if it helps. Not only am I not progressing, I’m getting weaker. I’m currently hitting everything twice a week waiting 72-96 hours.

@@andredubois4601 before I found mike's advice I would do 5 sets of 5 on compound lifts and 3 sets of 12 on isolation workouts six days/week Jan 2020 to Nov 2022. Ive always been a skinny type of build 6'1" 175 lbs 15-20% body fat; I will say that my shoulders did get more broad but only when I was pumped and my chest/arms/shoulders/quads never increased in size. My heaviest lifts at that time was 195lb squat and bench 5x5 and I would always plateau right around there. Since Nov of 2022 (5 months ago) ive been lifting every 4-7 days depending how tired I feel (ive found after a heavy chest/back day I need at least 6 days to recover before a heavy leg day but only 4 days after legs to recover for upper body day). My lifts have exploded; my squat went from 135lbs for 20 reps to 220lbs for 10 reps (set 1),245lbs for 5 rep (set 2); my dumbbell fly went from 45lbs for 15 reps to 85lbs for 6 reps supersetted into an incline press of 95lbs for 5 reps to 165lbs for 5 reps, respectively; and my deadlift went from 220 for 8reps to 275 for 10reps + 305 for 2 reps. In terms of physique im now 195lbs and still 15-20% body fat and I definitely look more full/dense in the chest/shoulders/arms/quads. I would definitely recommend reading and trying out the program in Mikes book: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006B7LTIS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Interesting for me arnold split 6x week and 2x each bodypart makes me lot gains... all weights going up

@@L0CALDRUGMAN I found that I plateaued pretty fast with that approach for one reason of another. however, I plan on going to a higher volume routine once im squatting 315 for 6+reps, benching 250, and deadlifting 405.

That’s exactly what I thought when I first attended this seminar back in 1981. Thanks for your post!

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thank you for continuing Mike's legacy! I have five of your books. By the way, have you ever heard of Phil Campbell and his Sprint 8 (HIIT) training system?

@@dbozexpat894 Thanks for your post. No, I have never heard of Phil Campbell.

He wanted people to learn, not to take what he says as the end all be all.

Because idiots learn that way

Thank you, sir.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thanks John.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE thank you for your service John

Here here 👍🏆🥇

Good points. Thank you for your post.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

...Or business and money...

@@markkoven9462 Or monkey-business, which is always profitable (before, during and after).

@Nevermind I had something to say, but Nevermind...

I noticed the same too

That’s true.

Do you think your size makes a difference? I was 180 and dropped to 170 due to a month of climbing at altitude and seem to be recovering quicker at lighter weight.

So in one year you should lift like 2000 pounds on leg press…

@@jaassil lightweight

My recovery sure has changed (58y.o)

Patients is a virtue..It's hard to believe that less is more but Mike knew the way..I got strong as an ox following Mike mentzer advice..

Thanks, Lou. Me, too.

whats the book?

Agreed. I didn't get this the first time I was exposed to it. Now I'm glad I train this way.

@@avono5330 the very last one be made .

Thanks for your post, Deekshant!

How is it going?

@@Elontusk40 amazing my legs are so much bigger now. I have gained a couple pounds of muscle. I have gotten so much stronger too. I really recommend it.

this is awesome. I'm on week one and and doing my second workout tomorrow. super pumped for this program and results in 90 days after reading yours after just one month

You relly take 48h rest day between workout ?

@@kanmuri371 72 hours actually, if not longer. Workout Monday, don't come back till at least Friday

Thanks for the kind words, Mark!

How does it differ from his Heavy Duty Training Program?

@@mikeschmidt4800 X-HDRT (Extra Heavy Duty Resistance Training) is the fastest way to get stronger not necessarily bigger. However, with increased strength there will be some muscular hypertrophy.``

@@drbonesshow1 You got a channel about your NEW method?

I felt the same way. Absolutely profound. and struck me as the missing little link to the whole enterprise 😮

Thanks, Jeremy!

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE welcome John💪

Congratulations, J!

Rest I believe is the most important message from Mike Mentzer, intensity doesn’t necessarily mean heavy weight, some people are compromised either due to age or past injuries, but as long as the intensity is there you will get results!

@@wintertime331 Thanks very much for your post!

Same here man, HIT is THE way to train

You’re very welcome, Chris. Thank you for your post.

This the problem sometimes. Don’t misunderstood me, I follow HIT principles from years, but don’t always take everything as written in stones just because is well said and his language is flawless and assertive. That being said, I believe in most of Mike arguments.

Haha! Glad you like the videos.

You’re welcome.

Thanks for your post.

Yes, sir!

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE 100%

Thanks for your post, Lee.

Congratulations to you and your son for your respective improvement. Yes, Mike saw that his career was over in 1980, and didn’t see anything in the years that followed that indicated that the corruption had left the sport.

Thanks for your post!

Thanks so much, James!

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE hi John just one of a quick thing I’m currently buying some old bodybuilding monthly magazines that I believe you used to writing for them along with Mike sometime ago the head office was actually based very close to where I live in the UK ,did you ever visit the head office or any stories on Bodybuilding monthly magazine in Dewsbury

You’re welcome, Scott.👍

@andreleitedasilva8708 concordo campeão, e a maioria do que vem sendo postado é um pouco distante do projeto final de Mike MENTZER, o último livro lançado em 2001

No worries, sir.

Excellent! Thanks for your post.

Any more info on the workout? I’m looking to switch to this method

@@DaltonRosee You need to try it. Guarantee that you'll learn something useful about yourself. Everyone responds differently to this but the biggest hurdle you'll need to overcome is finding out how to sufficiently stimulate muscle growth using one, maybe two working sets. I work out alone so I don't have helpers to do forced reps or overloaded negatives. So, I use Myoreps, dropsets, and more machine work rather than barbell. The whole point I've discovered is to work your muscles while they are fatigued, and be moving heavy loads.

@@RedfishCarolina what is a good workout? Or a place with the regimen in it> I am thinking about purchasing his heavy duty book and seeing more info in there. I currently workout 6 days a week as a 23 year old. 165 lbs. My goal weight is 200 lbs and I am very hopeful that this will take me there. And the rest days are something that I want to try, since I only usually get the one. How many days did you rest in the beginning of starting this?

@@DaltonRosee I really cannot spell out a full workout here in KZfaq, look up Mr America Heart for a natural lifter who has great videos on Mentzer and doing these workouts naturally. My basic approach has been 2 to 4 workouts per week (4 being optimal) and they are basically just an upper/Lower split. The really long rest days are going to be helpful AFTER you master how to properly fatigue the muscles.

What do you do I’m interested. I’ve been doing it and really slimmed down, I’m working on a 6 pack though.

@@skywayradio787 I do about 45 minutes on an indoor bike 3 to 4 days a week. Not doing crazy HIIT or anything that would be hard to recover from.

How do you measure 85% if you don’t achieve 100 %

You can do some moderate cardio. But you lose fat by being in a calorie deficit, so focus on your diet and macros.

Walk 25000 steps/day and youll lose fat and gain muscle at the same time if you are over 25%BF. My personal experience

It is the Nautilus Pullover machine. It was designed to train the latissimus muscles directly. However, it also works the abdominals the pectorals, and the triceps very thoroughly as well. The pads are placed on the upper arms, which is where the latissimus muscle originates.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE oh ok thanks! I see a lot of these in older Mike Mentzer training videos, but I don't really see them much these days in public gyms. I have struggled over 30 yrs trying to build my hollow and flat chest up enough, to square up symmetrically with my nicely developed back, shoulders and arms, but have failed miserably and resigned to blaming it on my long arms and frame of my body(i.e. genetics). I've been through almost the entire gamut of all chest exercises, and I was hoping this machine (which I've never tried because I've never seen or noticed in any gym) was going to finally be the golden key to unlocking my chest's hidden potential.

Damn you seem to know your stuff, have you studied this in school or whatever or just independently studied cuz interested? What rest days do you personally use if you do go gym? Just asking to know multiple sides, hearing all the traditional 2/3 rest days a week from people like MPMD but also now seeing mike's recovery thing and all these positive comments, so perhaps there is truth or that this video brings all the phenoms who do better by resting longer.

@@vapor5167 i’m not original commenter but PPLRESTPPLREST is the best split i can recommend for people. best recovery and everyday i am able to train hard with very high intensity. once you nail down diet and sleep and get your recovery on point, the gym will completely change

Lol stupid. I'm sure your at his level d a::

It was the last book Mike authored prior to his death in 2001.

i am 60 and i train the mike mentzer way and i have had good results for an old man.

Look up Mr.America Heart on yt.

Mike's approach is for everyone.

I would read all of Mike's books and courses so that you can follow the progression and evolution of his thought back from when he competed up to when he was training regular folk in his one-on-one sessions at Gold's Gym.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I have read The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer, High-Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way. Are there any more books and where can I find the courses?

@@georgyvarghese1908 I’ve seen some on EBay. Occasionally you can find PDFs of certain of them online.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thank you, John! You are a great person, have read about you in Mike Mentzer's books.

@@georgyvarghese1908 thank you, sir.

Hi R&BJ. It would depend when the book was written. His thoughts on frequency evolved as he trained more people. As he said, recovery ability is a genetically mediated trait that varies among individuals. The practical application is ultimately up to the individual to discern for his or her self.

Thanks John!

@@josephdowd4162 You're very welcome.

When did he write the book, and when was this talk? I'm curious what he believed in last 3x a week, or once every 4 days.

I tried gaining strength and size with intermittent fasting, but I just felt weak and tired all the time. Gorillas eat all day and look at them. Prioritize carbs such as fruits, grains and veggies and keep 1 g/lb of protein. Now I’m eating 3 times more and my workout are amazing with HIT. Afterwards I just walk to burn fat slowly.

It's very interesting you made the point about cardio. One of my favorite HIIT trainers is Phil Campbell. Phil is the inventor of "Sprint 8" training system. It's like lifting weights for eight intervals (8 sets) on cardio equipment. I did it three days a week for one month back in the summertime. I lost 15 pounds in 30 days, mostly fat. I still maintained muscle mass. Now, l only do it once a week, along with Mike's protocols. 💪

@@dbozexpat894 which one of Mike mentzer protocols are you doing?

@@brankobakic9744 l use the protocol that Mike demonstrated in his HIT video with Markus Reinhardt. Monday: Chest and Back Wednesday: Legs Friday: Shoulders and arms. Rest and recovery: Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. The only difference is l add a little more volume than the video. I usually do 4 to 5 sets per body part. That's including warm-up sets. For example, my first exercise for chest is flat bench dumbbell presses. Set 1: 50lbs x 15 reps Set 2: 65lbs x 12 reps Set 3: 75lbs x 12 reps Set 4: 85lbs x 12 reps Set 5: 100lbs (as many reps l can preform to positive failure). If have a training partner, he will assist me 2 to 3 forced reps if I can't raise the weight on my own. I hope that helped. Thank you for asking. 💪

Its not really Hit is anti- cardio but Cardio might be pointless if your goal is to build muscle. Because Cardio do eat up a part of body recovery resource. Even in the 50s alot of weightlifters and bodybuilders dont do any cardio. Cardio is good for the heart and RESPIRATORY SYSTEM and that is it. Many champion back in the day dont do any cardio or just do in contest prep.

Rep Pause

Well my advice is probably not for everyone, but it works for me. When ur muscles are full of glycogen(that is, you had a high carb intale that you didnt burn off) they burn significantly more than if you were to train fasted. For me, whether I use fat or carbs for fuel, it doesnt make any difference whatsoever. The reason for this is that glycogen in muscles is being oxidized to produce enrgy. The by product of glycogen oxidation is lactate which is responsible for not only muscle burn, but also soreness.( not hypertrophy in my personal experience)

I should also add that pump is better with carbs, but pumps are irrelevant when it comes to hypertrophy and strength gains

@@pipelisvejdzirnavs5759 I'll try this tomorrow. Hopefully I can fight through it.

It takes non-steroid users longer to recover from exercise, so Mike's advice is particularly pertinent to this group.

Yes.

I read that this occurred in one of Ellington Darden's books (perhaps also in Arthur Jones autobiography, but I can't remember). However, that's the only reference to it that I've come across. Darden was working for Jones at the time, so he would know better than I.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thank you. An honor to communicate with you sir. Fantastic channel with amazing information. Keep up the great work!

@@joetoth5465 Thanks, Joe!

Some people can better tolerate the stress of exercise than others and, consequently, they don’t require as many days off in between workouts to adapt. Also, we can’t forget, all professional bodybuilders take steroids, Mike included, which dramatically improve one’s recovery ability. When Mike began training natural clients, and observing when they made their best progress, it was when they took additional days off from training.

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I get it