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@ClickaNerdKilleen Жыл бұрын
The spread method is the best hands down. I use a blue painters tape around the cpu then spread. Put the tape 1/32nd of inch in on the cpu itself. After application, peel off the tape for a perfect application. When you apply the cooler, it will squeeze perfectly to the edge and not drop to motherboard or glob underneath the cpu. Same process for 32 years without error.
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@wh0tube Жыл бұрын
Do you wipe off the masking tape adhesive from the edges afterwards? OCD! 😁
@goorthiss Жыл бұрын
You should try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect.
@belik0va11 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@Darkk696911 ай бұрын
@@goorthissphase-change material Honeywell PTM7950 was actually tested on LTT and showed to work pretty well.
@iancurrie88442 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct and us old timers who used to apply paste directly to the die with no heat spreader know exactly why. It's just a tiny thin layer to fill in microscopic gaps in the mating surfaces. Nothing more.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
sound advice old timer :-) - wait that is me as well :-(
@CNC2952 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. This is probably one of the best tutorials on applying thermal paste I've seen in a long time period definitely gonna share it with folks. Thanks
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@johnbowser26122 жыл бұрын
When I started building computers back in the late 90's, I would spread with my finger. That's the only way to be sure that it spread in the right way, in my opinion
@danieldevito6380 Жыл бұрын
Then you risk spreading oils from your finger onto the CPU
@johnbowser2612 Жыл бұрын
@@danieldevito6380 I always use alcohol wipes for cleanliness!
@chriss20829 ай бұрын
@@danieldevito6380or wrap your finger with some plastic wrap and then spread it 🤷♂️
@Averagedude-mi3fl9 ай бұрын
Been building PCs for years. I also always use the spread with finder method. No issues doing it that way either. Used to use Arctic silver 5, but have changed to Arctic mx4. Pretty happy with it and spreads out easily in my opinion. To be honest I just keep a rag like an old washcloth or old towel of some kind and gently wipe off the old paste when needed. Perhaps I should use wipes but no issues with just wiping off the paste so far. As far as the cpu coming up when removing the cooler, I’ve found start your system up for about 5 minutes to heat up the cpu. Shut down, loosen the cpu cooler and give it some gentle twists side to side to break the seal of the paste between the cpu and heatsink.
@georgemorley10297 ай бұрын
@@danieldevito6380Which does exactly what?
@timinamegames2 жыл бұрын
I agree with spread method. Thats the most favorable in between contact with heatsink and cpu 👍
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@406mill2 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning for coolers with exposed heat pipes on the cold plate is to use the spread method in the little gaps on the cold plate before mounting, what's left on the spreader after doing th CPU is usually enough.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea!
@Lennox0322 жыл бұрын
I always totally spread the entire cpu like you mentioned. works so much better than dot in the middle I just my finger though!
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@smithrj12 жыл бұрын
Method may not matter, but “pre”-spreading let’s you see amount across the cpu, and also is more satisfying. Great video!
@OlettaLiano2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Mike. The spread method is 100% Oletta approved. I've done it that way for years. I also believe lapping the CPU and Water-block is an important first step before applying the paste. In regards to the paste itself, I only use Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut because it doesn't harden over time and it's highly thermally conductive without being electrically conductive. Per example: Idle temp for my OC Ryzen 9 3900X averages 9 degrees above room ambient, and after a 15 minute run on Cinebench R23 max temp 71c. Cheers!
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
thanks oletta, and nice temps
@PapaMav2 жыл бұрын
@Oletta Liano I am sure you have become very good at lapping...
@OlettaLiano2 жыл бұрын
@@PapaMav Only Rosa knows for sure. 😂
@uglybob75052 жыл бұрын
@@OlettaLiano I know who to come to in the future for spread methods
@OlettaLiano2 жыл бұрын
@@uglybob7505 Sweet, and I know who to invite over for lunch. 🧛♀
@Atacado20007 ай бұрын
Great, this tutorial emphasizes everything that I thought but haven't seen so well explained/shown. Also great that you filmed the whole spreading process so there is no doubt on how to do it. It's important to understand that the thermal paste is designed to minimize microscopic air gaps and irregularities between the surface of the cooler and the CPU's heat spreader (the top plate). So putting to much can affect the thermal conductivity that is supposed to be directly between the surface of the cooler and the CPU's heat spreader. This is also why you need a god thermal paste as the MX-4 (or MX-6) with a high thermal conductivity value [W/mk]. Much appreciated... thank you!!! .oO(this video should be a reference to everybody working with thermal paste on their processors)
@mikesunboxing7 ай бұрын
thank you for the kind comment, glad it helped you
@UltimateTechHub2 жыл бұрын
Spread method works Fantastic. I use to use the X method inside a square but this method is how I do now. For some reason I really like applying thermal paste. Very satisfying for some strange reason. Lol
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
it really is, next up how to plaster over a network port hole :-)
@UltimateTechHub2 жыл бұрын
@@mikesunboxing Even MORE satisfying!!!
@user-rn3eb2jn5t2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike I'm excited to try this spreading method as I mostly use the small pea dot method. My new paste came with a spatula just like the one you used here and I can see it's going to be perfect for spreading. Awesome video, thanks! :D
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
please give it a go and let us or me know how you get on.
@uglybob75052 жыл бұрын
You put that compound on there however you want mate. Its 2022, good looking lad like you can do whatever he wants 🙂
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
haha very true bob
@MontrealMMA8 ай бұрын
I agree about removing stock cooler paste. I installed a Corsair AIO and had to remove it shortly after. It was splotchy with some bare bits, apply your own.
@bennyhill42282 жыл бұрын
Mike that was so therapeutic to watch, now if you don't mind my walls need plastering 😃
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Lol! I need some plastering done too! 😂
@mikep94182 жыл бұрын
James from Kitguru does an excellent job of spreading thermal paste on CPUs, and he did used to be a plasterer!
@michaelthompson97982 жыл бұрын
Any method that ensures thermal paste coverage of the entire cpu IHS / die is fine imo. TIP: FOR REMOVING CPU FROM HEATSINK / COOLER ….IVE FOUND RUNNING CPU FOR FEW MIN’s THEN SWITCH OFF PC AND THEN TWIST (after cpu screw removal) THE HEATSINK GENTLY WHILE CPU IN SOCKET HELPS DETACH AND REDUCES CPU BEING RIPPED OUT OF LOCKED SOCKET! As thermal compound becomes more runny and less tactile 🥰👍🤯 Great video Mike! I’ve use various methods but pea and spatula method for me are most commonly used👍😇
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
a stuck cpu is never a nice thing and it always scares me, but since fully adopting the thin spread method not one single cooler has gotten stuck and most actually just fall off - which is excellent!
@jamesmiscellaneous2 жыл бұрын
I do it the same way Mitch Haman said he does it. Some people used to think thermal paste helped with cooling, it doesn't. It impedes cooling. As Mike pointed out it's simply the lesser of 2 evils, a gap of air is worse than a gap filled in with TIM. In a perfect world the IHS and the heatsink would be perfectly flat and mate across both surfaces perfectly. Things are often far from perfect, just look at the variation in core temps on some intel CPUs, even intel can't get dies to disperse heat evenly to the IHS. This is why people delid, lap CPU die, and sometimes even lap the bottom of their heatsink/block. So I'm not gonna try to change Mike's mind. He's right. 😎
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
thanks james, the voice of reason
@thecrazygamerful9805 ай бұрын
Literally did my first ever thermal paste replacement today. Thanks for the video was able to get my cpu to go from 75 to 65 🎉
@mikesunboxing5 ай бұрын
congrats
@pablomax937610 ай бұрын
Old video, but it's worth mentioning that I always used the thin-ish film as you demonstrated on my many PC builds. I needed to remove my AIO cooler a couple weeks back to fix a hard to reach cable and decided to see what would happen if I put a much thicker film on there. I used at least double what you did and what I used to do. I can say that my temps dropped 3 degrees c. So, I saw a big difference using more paste.
@mikesunboxing10 ай бұрын
that is pretty interesting. Some coolers if they don't have a flat base, or ridges for heat pipes can benefit from more paste
@pablomax937610 ай бұрын
@@mikesunboxing It's a sample size of one cooler.... so take that as you will. I think GN did a huge video on it and determined that as long as you have enough to cover the whole thing, it does not really matter at all. With GPUs though, error on the side of too much.
@makiwa2 жыл бұрын
Yes Mike, I have recently adopted the "Plunge'n'Spread" method.... You just get consistent results!
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@gswhite3 ай бұрын
I advocate this method, spreading is much more efficient. ~I go once step further, I spread and then place a small dot in the middle so there are no potential air bubbles. Great video thanks
@mikesunboxing3 ай бұрын
that is what i often do now as well
@BrandonBurch8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I favorited this for when I upgrade my CPU. Seeing you do this slowly and methodically gives me more confidence. I can actually see what you're doing because of the close-up. Thanks for that.
@mikesunboxing8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped! hope you feel confident when you come to do it yourself
@BrandonBurch8 ай бұрын
@@mikesunboxing update: I did it!
@mikesunboxing7 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBurch awesome! hope the video gave you a little knowledge and confidence to do it
@metrotechguru58632 жыл бұрын
Well done, Mike. The spread method is the one I have always used and always had good results.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@Senrab462 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Having followed many videos abiut pea or rice method I have always worried that the cpu wudnt be covered fully. Totally agree with idea of spreading the thermal paste👍 Use arctic mx4 after watching one of yiur videos when building d'ters pc late 2019. Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath👍
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
thanks nick, it just makes sense thin layer and total (or near ) coverage, allowing for the maximum thermal transfer and minimal paste will just file the gaps as it should
@SleepyDogg3 ай бұрын
I typically submerge the motherboard in thermal paste but this method does look better.
@mikesunboxing3 ай бұрын
give it a go next time and let us know how it goes
@patricklebel11412 жыл бұрын
Watching that while spreading butter on my toasts.... This works great for that too, no more dry spot on the bread. Thanks! 😁
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Perfect! where do you think i got all my practice :-)
@rickh83802 жыл бұрын
Great review Mike and Lady Kath. I do not lap the CPU, but I do lap the bottom of the cooler. I too prefer the Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. I use to only apply paste to just the heat pipes...but have since started using the spread method. Take care all. Cheers
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! i need to get some thermal grizzly paste i think
@mypokemon Жыл бұрын
i use deep cool cheapest thermal paste for more than 20 years with much better results trust me brand is just a jimmick and thermal grizzly is one of them even though it produce good results.
@paalosordoni79322 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough changed my thermal paste last night , have always used the spread method, great informative video Mike ,stop saying Zeee its Zed, your English. ;)
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
thanks paalo
@MitchHaman2 жыл бұрын
Good method Mike. I've spread it with a credit card or my finger in a plastic baggy.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
yeah use what you have on hand, even rubber gloves
@opoxious1592 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the way how you should apply thermal paste on your cpu. I never have seen this video. But i also found out due trial and error that this way is the most effective way for maximum cooling.
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
i agree, it saves money and works well, and also doesn't end up like glue
@Wellibob682 жыл бұрын
Mike gets his spatular out. I think it varies with application. Me. A pea dot in the middle. Not too little and a little more can't harm. My patience to spread the paste out has long since gone. Cheers Mike.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
as you know from the recent results from the 5800x (thanks to you) the spatula thin spread method works well and also makes it easy to remove the cooler without the cpu coming with it. I hate it when that happens
@Wellibob682 жыл бұрын
@@mikesunboxing I'm older, but NOT always wiser, in fact I'd check every thing I do 😉
@malibuhalibi96872 жыл бұрын
for high-end cpu I normally using use x pattern
@HOLLYWOODlosANGELES2 жыл бұрын
*J'ai vu plein de méthodes d'application de la pâte thermique sur le processeur (sur KZfaq), mais votre méthode me semble bonne aussi...* Je pense que c'est votre méthode que je vais appliquer sur mon futur 13900 finalement. Merci, bon travail !
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
merci d'avoir pris le temps de commenter et j'espère que votre build Intel se passera bien
@Goodknight477 ай бұрын
You sure have the right tips for a new pc builder. Good video 👌
@mikesunboxing7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@TheBigBlueMarble4 ай бұрын
You want 100% coverage of the IHS. True, the heat producing elements are of the CPU don't extend completely to the edges, but it is the job of the IHS to "spread" the heat evenly across the entire surface and you want to allow heat from all areas to pass into the cooler.
@h3inz10 ай бұрын
There was also a video about different thermal paste applying methods that concluded that the spread method is also most efficient thermal wise.
@mikesunboxing10 ай бұрын
i can see why
@johnforrest43732 жыл бұрын
Looking at that I've probably put to much on, but it is working. That thinner layer could squeeze a couple of more degrees perhaps? I'm getting a constant 43 degrees sitting in bios for a few hours, with 3 x quiet case fans at 50 % ish, 5600G/A520M-DS3H, Amd wraith stealth heat sink block, slightly extended. I've replaced the CPU fan with a TUF 120 AIO, but set to start at 48 degrees. Intend a temperature ceiling of 63 degrees, and only case fans when idle / light browsing. I need to get some software installed to see what it does in action, (not gaming). Still to get a external 5.25"drive enclosure as the thermaltake H15 case 5.25" Bay, won't take much LG BDe data writer, clashes with the power plug, by 30mm ! I've a FX6300 to re-compound , once the new build is loaded, so surely will be the spread method. 😉 Really enjoying your videos, thanks 😊
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info john
@chriss20829 ай бұрын
Great video. When i first did it i put too much on there and when i put the cooler on , it was ugly and messy 😆. Glad i watched this video 👍
@luckyman1324 Жыл бұрын
and i still come back to this vid 7mths later and stand by the spread method with a glue spreader in a multy pack made for crafting with wood glue
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
Yep me too
@tomfordbeauty8350 Жыл бұрын
I've always been using the 'dot' method with full load 79 degrees. Since I deep cleaned my pc, my friend told me to use the spreading method. I did it and at full load it went from 79 degrees to 62 at max. Huge diff. Before spread idle: 50 degrees After spread idle: 33 I have a Ryzen 5600x with Noctua NH-U12S redux. I use Thermal Grizzly that came with a spreader.
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@danieldevito6380 Жыл бұрын
If you dropped 17°, you probably did something wrong the first time because there's no way you should've lowered your temps that much just by using the spatula.
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
@@danieldevito6380 where did i say that part, i need to recheck that section, i certainly wouldn't see that much difference, you are right, but i can see where i said that
@ItsMotoMatt7 ай бұрын
Admittedly I stressed A LOT about this before installing my Ryzen 7600. I ended up using the uncooked pea method. So far so good!
@mikesunboxing7 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@maulcs Жыл бұрын
I've always used spread, only way to truly guarantee it's covering the full IHS.
@anthonytaylor8465 Жыл бұрын
I apply a thin bead along one edge of the cpu and use an old credit or debit card and press n spread to the other edge, perfect!
@AaronWOfficial3 ай бұрын
I've done that for years as well, it is definitely the best way to get a nice thin layer in the least amount of time. The heatsink pressing down on the cpu will of course cause minor amounts of excess, not enough for it to matter though. I guess if you were a neat freak, u could do a thin bead a quarter inch away from that one edge before spreading to the opposite side another quarter inch away, then allow the heatsink to naturally spread it when you screw it down to the cpu. Not necessary, but maybe nice for people with OCD XD
@thomasjenkinson7282 жыл бұрын
Used to use the dot but with am4s poor clamp method I've moved over to spreading!
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
spreading is the best option for so many reasons
@mickywoods2 жыл бұрын
Looks good - will definitely give that method a go next time - Carey Holzman uses his finger (with a rubber glove) but achieves the same effect - thanks for another great tuition video
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
yeah that works well, just make sure it is even and not over applied and that will make removal a lot easier after
@amitpalsingh55712 жыл бұрын
Thank for the demonstration... It helped me to reduce the CPU temperature
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@ramyrawitcher91272 жыл бұрын
The best thermopaste to date is Noctua NT-H1 lubrication thermopaste this method is the best 😎👍
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
nt-h1 is really easy to use
@LONGTRANGBILL2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Mike. Spread method is spot on...
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
cheers bill
@michaelbarmby630829 күн бұрын
I would have just put the cpu cooler straight onto that blob of paste. Always works for me and get perfect temps.
@mikesunboxing29 күн бұрын
i have had mixed results in the past with the blob method and with new CPUs being odd shapes the shread method and maybe a small blob in the middle also, really has improved my batting average
@marcusbinder890 Жыл бұрын
the problem of spreading the dough with the spatula is the appearance of air bubbles the best is the dice method with the 5 points
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
any then you introduce massive air pockets between the dots
@PaulBakewell2 жыл бұрын
That’s my most preferred method. Great video thanks Mike. I am guessing will be a popular one.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
I hope so!
@mikep94182 жыл бұрын
MX4 spreads great but MX5 not so much. The last time I tried spreading MX5 there was more left on the spatula! I've since gone back to using MX4.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
the first batches of mx5 where horrible to spread and the wrong mixture i think. the new stuff is a different consistancy and spreads easily
@mikep94182 жыл бұрын
@@mikesunboxing That's good to hear but I think I'll stick (or not stick as the case may be) with MX4 anyway. Cheers.
@markberry81822 жыл бұрын
Spread method is best. Reapplied mx4 on my 3400G and used the supplied plastic spatula thingy. Less is definitely more. Less cleaning up on next re-application and also more applications from the 4g tube. Just run cinebench a few times temperature dropped by a couple of degrees the score after reapplying was a bit less for some strange reason lol. Top video Mike👍
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
thanks mark, and yes i totally agree less is more
@georgemorley10297 ай бұрын
Yeah I think you’re probably about right because the spread just means that (simply put) enough paste is on everywhere that it needs to be.
@aryannarose7 ай бұрын
Best way is to get an AM4 offset brackets and some Arctic MX-6 thermal paste using a small thin spatula and spreading an evenly thin coat.
@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie2 жыл бұрын
I mix MX-4 with NT-H1 and using the spreader. done it this way for some years now. 😀
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
i might get some noctua paste well my stock of mx4 runs down a bit. there was a special offer on mx4 and i bought way too much of it
@406mill2 жыл бұрын
Yep, spread 100%
@bdhale342 жыл бұрын
The objective best way to prevent the CPU from being pulled out when removing the cooler is to take 2 entire seconds to twist the cooler left and right a little bit before pulling it away. The method of paste application is far less important to this issue. Any method can harden and glue the cooler to the chip, a small twist frees it every time.
@MrNerdSmasher2 жыл бұрын
pretty much this.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
i would love to agree but that isn't always the case for me and for a large number of our viewers, especially with those that have the stock AM4 or intel coolers. And besides why risk damaging an expensive processor and waste thermal paste and performance?
@renevo31712 жыл бұрын
Hello really very good info,Thanks and new subscriber from The Netherlands
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome to our little tech community glad to have you in our group
@lJUSTwanaCOMMENT Жыл бұрын
I always suspected spreading is best. But after years of hearing unspread works as well, I figure take the easy way out if it's all the same. But after watching this, I will be going with what I originally suspected.
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
the thing is that under compression generally speaking the paste "should" all squish out like in the spread method, but it isn't an exact science and thicker pastes won't squish as well as thinner ones obviously.
@AaronWOfficial3 ай бұрын
the problem with unspread, is a lot of the newer gen cpu's are more rectangular now than square so the spread when pushing down the cooler will be uneven and won't cover the top\bottom portion of the cpu. the pea method did work fine before-hand, but now I think its a lot more inefficient.
@Einherjar_176 ай бұрын
Excelent vídeo, thanks!.
@TheBigBlueMarble4 ай бұрын
I have been using the spread method for 20 years and never understood how anyone ever thought another method would be as good. I do see that most people use too much paste when using this method. You only want enough to fill the gaps where the IHS or cooler plate are not perfectly flat and will leave air-gaps. IHS to cooler direct contact is great, but not consistent.
@mikesunboxing4 ай бұрын
yep i agree and am often guilt of it :-)
@sasuke65743Ай бұрын
Had no spatula but alwais got patience and a toothpick. Still worked well ^^
@mikesunboxingАй бұрын
thanks for the comment, hope your temps are low
@sasuke65743Ай бұрын
@@mikesunboxing They usually are because i tend to operate more to get a smooth surface. This time i have to repaste because the paste i used seems to have aged out and it's time to try out MX-6, hope it will be good! And yeah, this time i got a spatula eheh
@412Sunil9 ай бұрын
Why not use the spread method on the heat pipe surface of the cpu cooler? Or is the heat pipe surface bigger than the cpu surface so the chance of paste spreading out outside cpu surface is greater? Anyway only apply thermal paste either on the surface of the cpu or cooler, not both ofcourse! By the way I am convinced of the spread method. Before I always used the dot method but since the introduction of heat pipe coolers the spread method is in my opinion the best. Other methods give insufficient spread out after pressing the cooler down. Also there are different kinds of heat pipe surfaces. Some of them are separated by aluminum or nickel metal between the heat pipes and other surfaces of the heatpipes form one solid block, the heat pipes are welded together and form one block. Maybe it is an idea to make a video of different surfaces of cpu heat pipe coolers and what the benefits are and how to apply thermal paste.
@Acc3l3ratoR9 ай бұрын
This is the old method , dinosaurs like me did back in the days, even with the finger... and it allways worked fine !
@DigitalDemonicDavros2 жыл бұрын
I use the spread too
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
hey dude
@FromBKI Жыл бұрын
just get thermaltake TG 30 thermal paste,..included with it is honeycomb stencil & a spreader, easiest way if you r bothered with too or little paste, it gets the job done perfectly.
@def-po8tu6 ай бұрын
That hair coming off the cpu bracket drives me nuts, lol
@mikesunboxing5 ай бұрын
sorry, we have many cats
@wxlf15734 ай бұрын
What should I use if I don’t have a plastic spreader? I only have a metal one.
@mikesunboxing4 ай бұрын
that should be okay just be careful or use a rubber glove and use your finger
@serban2139Ай бұрын
How do I know this is the best if you haven't compared temps to worse applications? How much do I lose if I just apply the "blob" and leave it, done?
@mikesunboxingАй бұрын
it isn't just about temps, it is also about ease of use and the ability to be able to remove it easier later. The blob method depending on how well it is squished out and the quantity can be the same or worse than a complete thin spread layer
@charlottehunter54205 ай бұрын
Oh Jeeze! I used a quarter of my 4 gram paste. Mine probably looks like a sloppy Joe under the cooler. lol
@mikesunboxing5 ай бұрын
more is often better than too little, don't worry it will be fine
@luckyman13242 жыл бұрын
well wot can i say i always use spread method but with grizly and works realy well as i changed from pea method
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! that seems to be a common theme that people are using thermal grizzly, need to try it
@JS-lv5pn Жыл бұрын
I always did the pea method since like 2001, and this drops temps I was curious what people was doing with AMD I used 5 dots which my 3700x only went to 67c full load so not bad. Now my 5700x is a little hotter imo so I did this and its under 70c in gaming now.
@dyslexsticks3381Ай бұрын
I was wondering how I should use my co op card after adding the code to a digital wallet...
@mikesunboxingАй бұрын
lol i have no idea soerry
@Wilko1012 жыл бұрын
Great video. Why did you leave round the edges though?
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
the compression will squish out the paste to the edges after a while, and too much compound on the edges solidifies and "glues" the cooler to the CPU
@fuzzymuffinsthe3rd8 ай бұрын
Oops. I bought the ak 620 deep cool and used the whole tube.😅 Hopefully its fine
@mikesunboxing8 ай бұрын
at least it won't dry out quickly
@matthewsmith222 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those that just smears it with my finger 😂
@jimst84355 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mikesunboxing5 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@cebuanostud2 жыл бұрын
A dot inside a square method works for me.
@CyberClu7 ай бұрын
I've considered the spread method for years, but I kept reading that there's more of a chance of tiny micro bubbles that would arise, rather than just doing the pea or rice method, which would lead to inconsistent and higher temps?
@mikesunboxing7 ай бұрын
A micro bubble is better than a totally missed section.
@CyberClu7 ай бұрын
@@mikesunboxing Okay, I'll try it out. Thanks!
@PapaMav2 жыл бұрын
Mike, have you run any tests for temp differences between this method and the traditional "pea" method? I get what you are saying about AMD CPUs getting removed when removing the cooler; would you say the spread method is more important when using an AMD CPU vs Intel? Thank you as always for the insights.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
yes i have done previously and with the pea it is about consistantly getting the right amount which is hard to know unless you take the cooler off to see the coverage. the pea method for me often gives slight variations when testing so i like the spread method as i can work it the same pretty much every time. In terms of actual differences is it almost nothing in it unless you compare a poor pea application and then it is still only maybe at the most 3 degrees or thereabouts. for me it is more about the ease of removal and trying to prevent the cpu ripping out when changing coolers
@PapaMav2 жыл бұрын
As I thought. Thank you Mike.
@iitzfizz3 ай бұрын
I used a pea method of applying when I recently installed my assassin king (with the included TF4 paste) didn't think about spreading it, I used a little more than you showed here but not much more, I'm a worrier and was thinking about removing the cooler to use this method, should I just leave it be? My temperatures on a 5600G (not using the APU, I have a 6750 XT) are around 30 degrees idle, 35-50 degrees under light-medium load and 65 degrees under heavy load, does this sound about right?
@mikesunboxing3 ай бұрын
sounds fine to me, maybe it could be optimised but i don't think you will see any major difference if any
@iitzfizz3 ай бұрын
@@mikesunboxing Thanks, yeah I think I am just overthinking it. From watching videos testing different methods there really isn't much difference between all the different ones as long as you use sufficient paste. All those temperatures too have been taken over the past few days where I'm sure you're aware, we're having hot weather in the UK too so pretty high ambient temps. Maybe if I re-paste in the future I'll try this method but I think you're right, no point in taking it off cleaning it all again and wasting more paste lol.
@iitzfizz3 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your help btw, you're videos in general are very informative, clear & concise.
@dimmacommunication Жыл бұрын
The problem is that with the GC extreme it's almost impossible to apply a thin layer , either you get a lot or none. Temps were sky high . I prefer the Arctic Mx-2 , will try MX-4 also just because :) super cheap to buy ,why not ?
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Tribellion2 жыл бұрын
Just for discussion - how often do people change/repaste their CPUs ??
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
That is a very valid question. Most arguably never do. But for those that like to swap coolers and try new configurations this method can save a lot of agro
@paulg54372 жыл бұрын
On the AMD coolers with pre-applied paste are we saying its inefficient application for heat transfer? I can usually get the cooler off the CPU by letting it run to warm the paste first then wiggling it.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
the paste is a low quality and has a really sticky consistency, warming it up and or twisting the cooler will get it off in most cases, but why risk breaking the cpu for the sake of a few moments carefully applying paste, it might even give better performance
@zman299410 ай бұрын
how can I spead the thermal paste without a applicator spread tool? I have MX-4 45g, but no spread tool?
@mikesunboxing10 ай бұрын
Old credit card works well
@BerserkBrownie2 жыл бұрын
makes sense... you want the paste as less as possible (only to fill all the gaps and microscopic irregularities)... you do not want that forbidden oreo... metal is still better conductor than paste and paste is better conductor than air...
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
absolutely right
@developer6619 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen this spread method creates air bubbles. Wont it make perfomance worse?
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
doesn't seem to, that is why i smooth it out many times to try and prevent that, and besides i would rather a few micro bubbles and be able to remove the cooler easily without breaking pins or being stuck to the cooler
@sovietonion9542 Жыл бұрын
With something like the i9 13900k wouldnt this be too thin to cool such a beast? Should i add a small bit more?
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
add as much as you like, most thermal compounds are not conductive so won't be a problem, just more to clean up when doing maintainance
@matthewday75652 жыл бұрын
I'm always afraid that pre-spread is going to trap voids that would be swept by the squish method. I'll always pre-spread a naked core though
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
squishing is squishing however it is applied if the pressure is enough
@DM-zr7vc Жыл бұрын
@@mikesunboxing based reply
@SheckleRFan7152 жыл бұрын
how many months should I re-apply my thermal paste?
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
in theory you should be able to leave most decent thermal pastes for many years, but if you are seeing a steady rise in temps that is a sign that the paste might be hardening and needs replacing, maybe once a year as part of general housekeeping is about right
@matk226 ай бұрын
Great coverage.... 🤣
@The_Trojan2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a pea method man, then I switched to X... I really cannot tell the difference to be honest. Admittedly spreading does seem to make sense. Pretty much any method is ok except of course if you use the line method, then don't bother talking to me!!! :)
@uglybob75052 жыл бұрын
I tend to use the same shape as the symbol on the latest Ed Sheeran album 🙂
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
lol
@dom_toredo2 жыл бұрын
Watching to put the thermal paste that came with the alseye m240. Is it a good thermal paste or I should buy one? It says thermal conductivity 7.5w and resistance 0.6 and 25% silver.
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
it was pretty good when i used the branded stuff, not sure if it is the same in the kit though
@dom_toredo2 жыл бұрын
@@mikesunboxing ok
@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW52 жыл бұрын
The spread methood actually is the correct methood its why a spatchular is included with most Pastes today also you get full plate coverage which spreads the heat more evenly thus increasing the life of the die ! ps; did you figure out the AIO /Fan Header issue ?
@mikesunboxing2 жыл бұрын
i think so, it still is a little hot but seems that board likes to ramp up the voltage a lot, and the 5800x doesn't really like that unlike some of the other in the range
@robbyrock-drummer10 ай бұрын
How many Ryzen CPU you can cover with MX-4 8g ?
@mikesunboxing10 ай бұрын
LOTS! never counted and depends on the paste method. could be around 20
@robbyrock-drummer10 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike. That was what i needed to know. Your channel is by fare the most usefully pc related channel.@@mikesunboxing
@mikesunboxing10 ай бұрын
@@robbyrock-drummer That's very kind of you 🙂
@dimmacommunication Жыл бұрын
Yeah the spread method is always best :)
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
It really is! and makes separation so much easier next time
@truthseeker6532 Жыл бұрын
Have you tested spread then dot on top?
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
That also works very well but can add to the cleanup if you are using too much
@galloe Жыл бұрын
Is this recommended for a newbie who's about to make his first build? I feel I might fudge it up, spread unevenly, have to try over and over, eventually get discouraged and throw the entire PC away.
@mikesunboxing Жыл бұрын
if you mess this up you really should not be building a PC, harsh but facts. If you have ever spread butter on toast or jam on bread it isn't much different, if you need help please ask
@galloe Жыл бұрын
@@mikesunboxing I guess we'll have to wait and see until it's done.