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Lmao

It seems like he was talking for much longer than your comment would presume. What did he actually say?

I think he actually presented himself and the piece

Hahahahaha

you had me in the first half ahaha

You got me haha ! I was thinking "This guy is either lying or a piano genius" then I read the rest of your comment x)

lol🤣🤣

I literally dropped my jaw 😂 Man, am I gullible

Even for Pletnev near the end, you can tell he was trudging!

@@amedeemereaux5678 This piece seems to be even harder than El Contrabandista. And he's playing some of its hardest parts. He probably had high standards that's why did not want to play el Contrabandista. Same with the reason why Horowitz doesn't play the Transcendentals.

@@CziffraTheThird That doesn't prove anything for certain - for all we know he just didn't practise it well enough.

@@Santosificationable I utterly agree with you!...I just wish we could see the entire recording...

@@Santosificationable I agree with you. Actually there's no problem with him to any other Liszt pieces if he play s253 well, one of the most demanding piece, at least technically. Pianists have their own standard you said. Legend says even the great pianist Richter often hesitates to include or not Chopin op.10 no.2 in his concert. Same context with Pletnev El Contra.

Без сомнения.

Horowitz wasn't very technical

Why do people get erect over Horowitz

@@herobrine1847can’t tell you either

@@charles-valentinalkan343 그럴거야

meh i wouldn't say it's as hard as his beethoven's 9th symphony transcription or his symphonie fantastique transcription, but a very difficult piece nontheless also your recording is amazing, i would say it matches how liszt would play it, but not exactly his perfectionist sort of way of playing, but yours is incredibly similar to it

@@mldv Have you played both this and the Beethoven 9 transcription? I have and I can tell you this is harder. I wish my playing is perfect but unfortunately it’s not. I’m the king of perfectionists.

@@ladivinafanatic i have not unfortunately, but I would say that the sheer amount of stamina to play just one grueling hour of just notes and complexity might be more difficult, but we might have our own opinions, let's agree to disagree

@@mldv No. You clearly don’t know how much stamina for this piece is required. It’s even more than a 1-hour symphony transcription.

@@ladivinafanatic well i'm no pianist so my opinion is completely based on the length, not thorough analysis, therefore i must give my apologies to you sire

Did he not?

@@Santosificationable Nope, it was posthumously published after his death.

And what would that reason be?

Because he had already revised S.695c and S.253 into the S.254 which was published in his lifetime

@@leomiller2291 Because the piece is a gimmick, among a long list of gimmicks Liszt had already published. It is crazy to see someone playing at his level though.

+CziffraTheThird This is in a Russian archive somewhere

ADGO find it, and spread it out. You must.

I've been searching like mad for it but I haven't found anything.

@@AndreiAnghelLiszt This is the full version, you're welcome kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e52WpLWita6bm3U.html

@@ingoodmusic That's the full version of what must have been aired on TV (with other players performing as well) but it still does not contain Pletnev's full performance of this piece.

Danny B. apparently Leslie Howard has recorded it. There used to be a YT video which had increased the speed of that recording by 150% because it was so disappointingly slow. I can't find it now though. After Pletnev it's sure to be a bit of a let down.

Yeah, I forgot that he had a project where he recorded absolutely all of Liszt's piano output. And yes, I can imagine it will be a great letdown. I will content myself then with this excerpt for the time being.

There's another fantastic version now on youtube too!

@@cziffrathegreat666 Which one?

@@Daniel_Ilyich kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b8t3admmzJ7ViX0.html Recording by a conservatory student. Marvellous. However it's not a commercial recording ...

Jokes aside, Pletnev nails this part when compared to all the other recordings, as many are much slower tempo and very innacurate

The description says he played the full piece but video of it can't be found.

Yeah He said that score of this fantasy was given to Pletnev by Flier on their last lesson. And that Flier said it would be good if Pletnev will learn it. So it was kind of last will

+Дарья Гончарова Flier is Glier

@@user-gv3rn8bj4r Well it's a real shame he never studio recorded it... :(

@@Kat-vl3xz I can assure you that Yakov Flier and Reinhold Glier were two distinct persons--even if you've never seen the two in the same place at the same time. For that matter, Reinhold Glier died the year before M. Pletnev was born, a circumstance that would have made the former's tutelage of the latter a bit difficult.

I believe this is the last few segments of the Spanish Fantasy. A lot of people who have recorded it failed to keep up with tempo and accuracy. I’ll check him out!

Preludio Thanks! Now that you pointed out what section of the piece this is, it does seem to be the same work. I just didn't notice the hand over hand scales that start at about 1:46 in the Korobeinikov rendition. Also, Pletnev's tempo is noticeably faster.

Danny B. In Mendes’ midi which is supposedly the original one, it doesn’t have the weird scale Pletnev introduces. I think those scales he added himself because yes I didn’t hear it in any other. Interesting

If you compare Pletnev at 2:30 with Andrei's counterpart at 14:00, you'll hear the difference. But Pletnev is hors concours, Andrei delivers a very fine performance as well !

buulu poulou maybe a few hundred

Virtuosi such as Argerich, Pollini, Pace, Powell, and Hamelin (not to mention the aged Pletnev).

@@vnwa7390 I wouldn't be so sure on that. Don't get me wrong Argerich and Pollini are superhumans and I would make a pact with the devil to be able to play the Schumann toccata and Chopin etudes at ⅒ of their level. But this piece is on a different level. Every bit of this is as hard as a random passage picked from the Schumann toccata if not even harder and this lasts 3 or 4 times more. So I would say that only pianist that have played pieces at this level can play this: Hamelin (hid Don Juan is is nearly perfect, and his triple etude over Chopin is crazy), John Ogdon (frabtasie de bravoure sue la clochette and Sorjabij), Katsaris (he recorded all of the Beethoven symphonies improvising on top of them making them harder and delivered some of the best recordings in the classical piano world, is there anything he can't do?), Kim (he played the clochette fantasy when he was 20), William Wolfram (his Lucrezia Borgia is a beast), Goran Filipec (he has the best rendition of the 1838 etudes and he is one of the best Liszt interpreters)ecc.

@@Bohh574 oh my god I haven’t found a comment I agree more on

Volodos?

Or do I have to sit down and learn this mofo myself?

50 sviatozlav says you will need to embellish the text to increase the challenge for yo bad self

while cheating in da truest sects 8)

@@MichaelKaykov Would you happen to have finished learning it since? :D

@@AndreiAnghelLiszt I did not even attempt this beast!

Yeah a nightmare to play, and (frankly) not worth the effort, IMHO.

Robert Dvorkin Why? I mean, come on.. That's what people have said about Liszt's 1838 version etudes, but turned out they were even more awesome than the 1851 simplified versions. And I'd really love to hear someone play this piece decently and give it the justice it deserves. Pletnev here gave a good attempt, but yeah, the piece really got the better of him in the end. :-S It must be a hell difficult to play.

mazeppa1231 i think that liszt wrote a lot of pieces that were virtuosity for its own sake, and this piece is exemplary among them. even the etudes have much more music in them.

Robert Dvorkin Yeah, I agree with you. There are some pieces like the clochette fantasy for instance, which was written for the sake of virtuosity. But in this case, we shouldn't judge a piece just from hearing one pianist play it. I mean, compare Eric Wild's Robert le diable recording to Leslie Howard, for example.. Or Lang Lang's Don Juan to Hamelin's, or Bolet's grand galop chromatique to Cziffra's. If you hear one or two performances of it and you didn't like it, you shouldn't blame the composer like many people have done; for it's the pianist's responsibility to bring alive the piece in front of the audience. Yet, people misunderstand and blame the composer for it instead and not the pianist. I've seen this a thousand times in utter disgust. Why? And given that there are only 2 performances of this piece here on youtube (1 now, since Howard's recording has thankfully left the website), it's relatively unheard of. People should give this piece a chance. I mean, look at Nikolai Petrov's interpretation of the 1838 paganini etudes, for instance. He actually gave a performance which is something at least close to decent regarding those etudes. Enrico Pace too, also performed Paganini Etude no. 2 (1838 version) which was by far better than Petrov's. In this video, Pletnev wasn't able to give a good performance of this piece at all, and its utter dryness in his playing completely destroyed the piece's spanish character. It's not the composer's fault, but the pianist's. Look at 3:48 to 4:04 for example: The melody was supposed to be something similar to one section of Liszt's Spanish Rhapsody, but he destroyed the tune completely and made so many mistakes in that part. His playing was very clumsy here. So why should Liszt take the blame simply because Pletnev's playing of the piece was lousy? Is it not right? It's clearly evident that Pletnev in this video wasn't skilled enough to give justice to this piece. Someone else with the required skill the piece demands should tackle it instead of Pletnev. Yes, it's a very difficult piece (imo, this is even harder than Don Juan) and even though it's better than Howard's ridiculously slow performance, it's nothing close to decent. You could even see clearly how his hands tire out in fatigue at the end - especially at 4:32 onwards and thus, he destroyed the piece and clouded out the melody as a result. The composer shouldn't take any criticism for that. For god sake, Liszt didn't indicate "pretend to get tired and destroy the melody" in the sheet music, did he? So simply put, blame Pletnev. Not Liszt.

+mazeppa1231 a little mistake...... Earl Wild, not Eric

Yeah, he cuts out a bunch of stuff.

It’s pretty horrible

Yes

Yup

What do you mean

Basketball. He died 5 years before it became a thing.

Who said Liszt could play all of his own works?

@@thenotsookayguy😂😂😂😂😂

Не просто человек, Русский человек.

You described the feeling so well! Exactly

잼민아 니가 이거 직접쳐봐 이거 연주 시도한 피아니스트가 세계에서 몇 안되는데 틀렸다고 트집잡는 사람이 있네 ㅋㅋㅋ 같은 한국인으로써 쪽팔리니까 댓 내려라

@@korea1006 니가 먼데 내려라 명령질인데 그리고 너는 네가 잼민인줄모르면서 나불대냐 그리고 초면에 반말쓰지마라 학교에서 안배웠냐? 그리고 솔직히 스페인 대 환상곡 열심히 연습만 하면 누구나 다할수있음

@@user-fz8pr8vt4t 말하는 뻔세가 잼민인데 ㅋㅋㅋ 스페인환상곡이 무슨곡인지는 알고 나불대냐? 연습만 열심히하면 할 수 있다면 피아니스트분들이 앨범을 왜 안내겠냐? 제발 잘 모르면 지껄이지좀 마세요

@@korea1006 잼민이가 잼이라고하는건 처음이네ㅋㅋ 그리고 유튜브에 쳐보면 일반인들이 치는 영상 얼마나많은데 너는 눈깔없냐? 그리고 스페인 대 환상곡 니보다 내가잘아라 모르면서 나불대지 마세요

@@user-fz8pr8vt4t 자 여기서 수준차이 딱 나오죠? 유튜브에서 일반인들이 치는건 스페인 대환상곡이 아닌 대연습곡임 ㅋㅋ Fantasy -> 환상곡 Rhapsody->연습곡 즉 너가 우기는 그 일반인들이 치는 영상들은 스페인환상곡을 의한 연습곡임(물론 그거도 많은 연습이 필요함) 진짜 나보다 더 잘 안다고? 잘 알지도 못하면서 깝치니까 잼민이 소리듣는거임 ㅋㅋㅋ

Pletnevs performance of this piece seems to be horrible, but there’s pianists like yi huang Chung who manage to reveal the true brilliance of the Spanish fantasy