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I doubt there's only one Miles in the Spiderverse, I think Miguel just didn't want any in the headquarters cuz there was a Miles that was an anomaly

If Miles IS in fact an anomaly, and he isn't supposed to be Spiderman, the rules of the Canon events shouldn't apply to him. If he didn't qualify for the SPIDER SOCIETY because he was an anomaly, then he shouldn't have to have a canon event. You might be thinking "Maybe he can't be part of the society because he didn't have a canon event yet." Remember that Pavitr got accepted 6 MONTHS before his canon event which didn't even happen in the end. If Miles Isn't an anomaly and has to have a canon event happen to him, He shouldn't have to let his father die. Uncle Aaron's death should qualify as a canon event. Saying that this doesn't count would be false. During Miguel's presentation, it was portrayed as a canon event. Plus, According to Miguel, A canon event is something that helps all members of the society improve and become a better Spiderman. This is exactly what happens during the first movie. Miles becomes a better Spiderman when he goes to avenge Uncle Aaron and stop Kingpin. Either way, NOBODY SHOULD BE stopping Miles from trying to save his father.

The fact that hobie knows how to reverse engineer future tech from the year 2099 is crazy to me now that i think about it. And so fast too

I'm of the opinion that Miles is an anomaly, but that this is a good thing because anomalies and canon events do not work the way Miguel thinks it does. I don't think Hobie has seen the future. He just knows authoritarianism when he sees it. He actually tried to keep Miles from going to Nueva York, so in not sure how had a plan in advance since Miles ignored the warning. Hobie is also incredibly emotionally intelligent. He knows Gwen. He quickly figures out Miles. He knows Miguel will try to prevent Miles from going back home. It's not hard for him to figure out what will happen next once Miles runs. He knows that in the end Gwen will most likely defend Miles and when she does, Miguel will send her home. He didn't know for sure. That's why he left the note, "In case things didn't work out."

I'm going to say: Hobie doesn't time travel, but his backstory gives him the knowledge and experience on how to break oppressive systems. He knows he'll need his own watches keep the power "in the people's hands" rather than just Miguel's - (and to keep big brother from surveilling everyone through the watches, like, how creepy is that? You think Hobie wouldn't hate that?) And he clearly knows how to smash barriers, he made quick work of Spot's, because he knows that the prison system in the society is their main control method other than the watches. He's studied how to break them, he saw that Miles was able to affect the barrier and offered his expertiese in how to smash it next time - giving power to the people (knowledge this time not tech) - and Miles listens, learns, and revolts; so Hobie smirks in pride. Nothing sinsister here, just a punk revolutionary on a mission to undermine all Miguel's control systems, and lay the foundation for a revolution. And it works! Gwen steps up. Movie 3 is going to be awesome!

I think Miguel is actually a Prowler variant not a spiderman variant. He doesn't have a Spider sense, he has claws like Prowler, his webs are far more techy than any of the other spiderman variants we see (even the Indian one has a web between his), his music when he's chasing Miles is a Prowler theme, and he is way more into tech than spider powers. Even Miles says "you have claws? Dude, are you sure you're even as spiderman? My theory is that he is a Prowler that jumped universes and took out the Spiderman version of himself in the other universe to have his family. This is what caused the collapse of the universe. I'd further add, that the reason why he's chasing Miles is because he knows that there is also a Prowler variant of Miles (IMO he's a good guy per all the sinister six Easter eggs in universe 42) that could potentially take him down.

Woah I hope Hobie will have a role in the next movie like you describe, they just have to be quite careful with a character knowing stuff in advance

2:44 Even when Miguel identified him as Miles Morales, Spider-mans were confused when they saw Spider-man with four arms. And Miguel asked him to look back, and Miles was hiding behind his back. Eventually, Spider-Mans realised that Miles was the one to catch because he started running away.

My theory is that Miguel is doing his best with the information he's got. Going back to the comics, while he's always been a grump (hard not to be when you come from corpocratic dystopia, especially standing next to the other Spider People) he's also always been a hero, doing his best to fight the good fight in the same way any other Spider Man does. He's not going to intentionally make other people's lives worse or hurt other knowingly. It's not who he is.

I don’t remember where else I saw someone say this but like whoever said it, I believe that the Miguel really does believe the canon events are real because of these traumatic events have happened to to him and he doesn’t want to believe that he just got unlucky and that everything is random so he created this narrative about canon events as a coping mechanism because to him, there must be a reason these horrible things have happened and many other spider people feel the same way so they believe it too. I feel like Miguel truely believes he’s doing good and preventing people the pain he experienced when that universe collapsed when in reality, he’s causing more pain.

One thing I like about ATSV is during Miles' walk to Miguel's main area, you can see Hobie sneaking in any kind of tech materials to make his own Spider Society watch, which he later gives to Gwen near the end.

The speculation makes sense Hobie the the character who hates authority. And if he saw some kind of future that end horribly due to authority, I wouldn't put it past him to come up with a plan to stop it.

I just love that we can see Hobie stealing the parts to make the extra bracelet during the walk n talk to miguel

I just figured out on my own , idk if you mentioned this before but if Miles is an anomaly from being bit by the alternate earth Alchemax spider and he wasn’t supposed to become spider-man and Peter Parker and Uncle Aaron weren’t supposed to die, why would Aaron Davis be dying in Miles’ arms directly from ITSV be shown when Miguel is explaining canon events?

I just came back from the cinema watching this movie again and I noticed that right before he sends gwen back to her dimension she questions if he even knows what will actually happen if miles saves his dad and he pauses, then he turns around and ominously asks if she wants to find out.. From that scene I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't actually know for sure which strengthens your theory, thought that was interesting

One thing that bothered me about Miguel was how he was going to "contain" the spot even though Miles told him that Spot was going to cause a cannon event. So if he contained Spot before he killed Jeff, doesn't that mean he prevents the cannon event (the same thing that Miles did to Inspector Singh)? I'd like to believe that it was a slight oversight on the writers' part but it can be used to show that Miguel does not even believe in his own story about cannon events. Also Miles' strategy of "going home" is honestly kind of sad since the other spiderpeople can just go to his dimension and capture him again. This makes me assume that in the 3rd movie, either Miguel is proven wrong and that Miles is not an anomaly, or that Miles loses contact with every other dimension.

Great analysis! I completely agree with you that Miles is not an anomaly. If he was, why isn't his earth crumbling? Also in the scene when Gwen Stacy goes back to Earth 1610 and talks to Miles' parents, she not only wears Miles' jacket as a comfort ship, but also to cover up that fact that she is Spider-Gwen.

There's no evidence that the interdimentional watch Hobie made for Gwen is the only one he has made. In fact, given that we see no evidence of his continued presence in Gwen's universe after he delivers a watch to Captain Stacy, it is likely that he has a second (at least) watch that he has kept for himself. Without his own watch, travelling to Gwen's universe would put Hobie at risk of glitching out before his presence was detected, and he could be returned to his own reality. Given what we know of Hobie's character, and how we see Miguel and the Spider Society tracking members through their watches, it seems likely that Hobie would be unwilling to rely on the watch provided by the Spider Society. He is there to keep tabs on what they are doing, but would not want them tracking him in return, or controlling his access to interdimensional travel. Therefore, I suspect that if he did not already have his own interdimensional watch before he was recruited to the Spider Society, he put one together quickly after he joined so that he would have more freedom of movement to investigate what Miguel is doing. At the Spider Society, we see Miguel keeping tabs on other universes through windows on his computer. I think it is reasonable to speculate that Hobie, clever fellow that he is, (making his own interdimensional watches, etc.) would be able to put together something similar, which would allow him to see that Gwen would need a watch. He has probably also seen other iterations of Miles as Spider Man, since he would know that Miguel sees our Miles as a huge anomaly, and would realise that Miguel has developed a prejudice against all instances of Miles Morales as Spider Man because of it (which explains why there are none in the Society.) He has probably been watching our Miles, as well as various other Spider Miles' to form his own conclusions, rather than blindly trusting in Miguel's narrative. He could easily have observed another, more experiened, Spider Miles using his powers, and passed along the tip to help our Miles. Anyway, this is getting long, so, I'm out- 😁

Another time where the universe doesn't break is in No way home, 3 different spidermen meet and work together without bracelets but that doesn't make the universe any worse, in fact they help restore it

I believe there are no other Miles(es?) in the Spider Society because it would be a conflict of interest. Miles' reputation as an "anomaly" was already known to the group and just having his friends there was evidently a risk. So imagine if there were even more of him there.

One thing I need to point out. When Miguel specifies which Spider-Man to stop, he also states which gate Miles is coming from, so that could potentially be a big reason why they know which specific Miles to go after. Not saying you're wrong at all about that, I just wanted to bring up another possibility.

I'm leaning toward Miguel not only lying to the Spider Society but also not having all the information. He only ever saw one universe get destroyed by a "canon even" not happening but we're never told that there have been patterns of this happening in other universe. Pretty sure Gwen even asked what would happen if Miles really broke the canon and Miguel never gave a real answer. Also, Miguel is so smart and would want canon event to happen "like they're suppose to" then why even detain Miles at Spider Society HQ. Keeping Miles there could actually disrupt the canon event itself because there were probably things that were suppose to happen to make the canon even happen that Miles needs to do in order for it to happen. If anything, Miguel should have erased Miles's memories, if he had a device to do so, to make sure that the canon event happens and Miles never had the information in the first place. Heck, not telling Miles his dad was in danger could have (probably) could have made the canon event happen in the first place.

Miles wasn't the anomaly that Miguel mistaken he never does any harm to anyone after Gwen's betrayal

Athithan’s Theory: Miguel is lying. His motive for why he’s lying? When he replaced himself everything was fine, however a different miles morales entered his universe fought with Spot. Left. But Spot’s spot was left behind and destroyed Miguel’s universe! Therefore Miguel wants to eradicate all Miles Morales from ever existing, because Spot was the creation of Miles existing, then when events play out to where Spot gets his revenge and destroys the universe to get back at Miles. Miguel figured the only way to save everyone and potentially undo the the timeline of his universe getting destroyed, is to kill Miles!

Omg you managed to articulate what I was thinking, with Miguel being potentially wrong (I do think he may be wrong on his hypothesis/own experiences, because he may be an antagonist but he doesn't strike me as an actual villain). What bothers me in that regard is how in many universes, Alchemax has a collider. This is so extremely suspicious, considering what happened with just the one from Earth 1610. This is why I do think Miguel may be wrong on the cause AND the target of his hypothesis. At the same time, when Miguel talks about the death of the captain, Hobie is the ONLY ONE who doesn't seem emotionally moved - it is not canon compliant, and yet Hobie and his universe seem totally fine. Hobie is also the only one who has similar powers to Miles, and in the comics Hobie started as The Prowler - which Miles 42 has become to fight against the Sinister Six. Hobie has a very different perspective on everything, and I can't wait to see more of him in the next movie. He's got to understand something Miguel may have missed. WHAT DO YOU KNOW, HOBIE.

One thing I want to point out is that when Miguel says he went to another dimension to replace his dead self so that he sees his daughter again how did he manage to travel to another dimension which he knows he’s dead in?

Then again when Miles ended up on Earth-42 his alternate self did lose his farther, and even tho that Miles from Earth-42 was supposed to be Spider man and he didn't, the secondary main canon events happened like the Captain dying and someone close to him/ his dad, and that Miles becoming the Prowler, so basicity Miles from Earth-1610 and Miles from Earth-42 swapped canon events and stories if that makes sense

Hey, about the Hobie theory, I just remembered something. In the last movie, didn't Miles see a giant cinematic Web thing that was utterly beautiful?

Miles may be an anomaly but he’s definitely not a mistake. If the Web of Life and Destiny is the source of the Spider-Sense like it is in the comics we need to look at instances of it more closely. The Spot ran a test on the collider which brought the spider that bit Miles from another dimension but it wasn’t the only spider. That test also brought Gwen to 1610. In Into the Spider-verse she says that her spider sense guided her to visions academy, where she met Miles before he was even bitten. In Pav’s dimension we see Miles’ spider sense when Singh is in danger. But he’s the only one. When Gwen senses that Miles is in the wrong universe it seems as the the Web of Life and Destiny has been playing a part in all of this likely to be revealed in the next movie.

I think MiGUEL was the one who shot his alternate self and that’s why the world unraveled because he wasn’t supposed to be there.

I just think that the dimensions switched up. In 42 miles dad was to die and inspire him to be Spider-man in the movie miles, his uncle was supposed to die and inspire him to become prowler. With him becoming Spider-Man the deaths still happened but the context and inspiration changes because the 42 spider bit him its mixing up the universes in the machine and showing what was meant to happen in 42 how it originally would have.

6:13 which brings up my last point on my other comment, Peter B Parker literally replaced Peter Parker from Miles’s universe in ITSV and NOTHING happened. Either this canon event theory Miguel got going on is a misunderstanding or Miguel is simply lying, there is no other way around it.

You make a solid point. I think the “canon events” are the colliders activating and fucking everything up

Also in earth 42 his mother didn’t know who Spider-Man was, in all universes there’s a Peter Parker Spider-Man and then a Miles morales who becomes Spider-Man so that means our miles is meant to be Spider-Man and the earth 42 one is just a variant of the first and only Spider-Man being miles

The Special Session theory also ties into Hobies idea of not believing in consistency as it kind of ties into these “canon events” not being consistent and him realizing.

Speculation corner. Hobie's art style frequently changes in a way that looks very similar to glitching, I get that his universe is meant to look like a collage, but I feel like the similarities between that art style and the way glitching tends to look is not an accident. Hobie's actions could be motivated by partial knowledge of the future, it could also stem from him simply having a strong impulse to break the mold, it could also be the combination thereof, upon discovering the idea of canon events, it seems 100% in his established character to want to shatter that status quo, as the only consistent part of his core philosophy seems to be an overwhelming drive to make free choices, so the slightest hint that the idea of a predetermined timeline was false could've very easily been enough to make him want to fight the timeline by every means he knows how to. This doesn't disprove the possibility of him time traveling, but it doesn't necessitate it either, him making his own multiverse watch could indicate he time traveled, but it could also simply be due to the fact that most spider people tend to be somewhat hyper intelligent, and considering the first watch was presumably made by a Spider-Man of one universe or another (theoretically Miguel, but that is not necessarily confirmed) it isn't a stretch to think that another Spider-Man could also come up with the idea on their own (especially if they have proper inspiration to do so) That said, definitely like these theories, just came across this channel with the previous video in this series, looking forward to the next one coming out.

I don't know why know has pointed out yet. In What If, we see that Dr. Strange attempted to save Christine. But, no matter what he did, he failed to do so. This was termed as an Absolute Event. Maybe this is what a canon event is supposed to be. Finally, when Strange did actually save Christine, we see how his world completely collapses and everything just disappears. Canon events do exist, they are just a far deeper concept than we realise.

This guy can make my mind go 🤯 over things I've never even watched

something to keep in mind is that Miguel O'Hara is not a spider-person he was never bitten by a "radioactive" animal. he has to inject himself with that green liquid we saw to keep his powers he doesn't have spider-sense (which is the most important part of being a spider-person because every time someone new gets introduced we see them "connecting" with others through their spider-senses) and he can't crawl like others. he also says he is different from others. so if he isn't a Spider-Man his canon events shouldn't be the same as others so the differences in his story can be excused (referring to the previous video) but why did he choose to be a part and the leader of spider people? also in his flashbacks, we see other spider people trying to help his universe but if that was the moment he learned about canon events and how worlds get destroyed why was there a spider society? what did they do before Miguel's universe fell apart?

I think Hobie was mentored by future Miles. That’s why he’s helping him

no he’s not, he’s a victim because Spot was the one who bought the spider from 42 in the first place and Miguel accused him the wrong way

No, Miles IS an anomaly, this issue isn’t that there can’t be a Miles Spider-Man, the issue is that Miles was not supposed to be the Spider-Man in his universe specifically, we don’t know everything about Canon Events, we don’t know what happens when these things occur. But Miles is 100% an anomaly

miguel is just a mad man that feels that everybody has to go thru the same pain as him. that's it that all. cannon events are just events that lead them all down the same path and not one of their own

Miguel is the only anomally... he said himself. Miguel started it all.

Another dose of background noise to listen to! I always enjoy these theories Rem!

Miles wasn't supposed to get bitten, that was unexpected and not supposed to happen; the cannon event was that Miles G Morales was going to get bitten, but miles 1610 did instead which is the interrupted/broken cannon event

Sooooo along with that, miguel is a spiderman from the future. And in his post credit scene in ITS, he uses the word “timeless” when talking about the abilities of the watch. On top of that, peter b is an older version of peter parker. Theyre intentionally giving us older and younger characters to explain time travel without saying time travel.

I believe that the only reason that the timeline calapsed was because Miguel tried to insert himself into a universe that was not his own. That has nothing to do with the thinking that Miles would do the same in his own timeline. It was the spider from another universe ( which should not have been there) that bit him. Thanks to his uncle Arron taking him to the spot where the collider was being used, which was how things got injected into incorrect timelines. And that was before Miles met the Peter Parker spiderman.

There is also no version of Miguel O'Hara who is also spider man

Good follow-up, keep up the great work! 👍 Random question/theory topic recommendation: Have you ever considered doing a theory video on something like Sonic or Mario? I think The Super Mario Bros. Movie would be an interesting thing for you think about... idk, just a thought. Don't wanna push you or anything.

Random fact: in Animation vs Minecraft shorts episode 30, Gold dies by a glitch while playing Minecraft causing King Orange to try to destroy Minecraft. In Across the Spider-Verse, Miguel’s daughter (and everyone else in that universe) also dies by glitch

If miles is an anomaly, why does he still have canon events like the spider bite, his uncle ben moment with uncle aaron, and his dad is going to die?

3:57 the guy on the right looks like scot cawthon

I personally curious what they’re gonna do with Lyla, who is she? Is she a spider person? Is she an AI? A hologram? Something else?

I'd like to point out that in the conversion of the canon events, all of the spider people were being bit on the hand. If anyone remembers Andrew Garfield was bitten on the back of the neck. Yet he was used as an example for the death of captain Stacy.

You can see a note in the watch hobie gives to Gwen that says "Just in case everything goes wrong" or something like that so thats something to consider

MIGUEL CAUSED AN INCURSION

Do you know that spider man(Andrew Garfield) was the first person to break the Canon In the no way home movie Andrew Garfield saved MJ when she was falling to his death, but Andrew Garfield(spider man) wasn't able to save his Gwen, This means one of spider man's girlfriend is suppose to die just like how a police officer close to spider man is suppose to die by saving a small kid or spider man Uncle Ben, Uncle Aaron or Aunt May is suppose to die. That means all these things started with spider man (Andrew Garfield) breaking the canon

Okay, really big thing to point out, Insomniac Spider-man is wearing his Spider-man 2 PS5 suit, the game where he is teamed up with Miles Morales in it. Also, did anyone realize, when Hobie is stealing things from Miguel's lab, he's building the watch for Gwen, right then. This was all his plan from the beginning.

Spot’s spots are the equivalent of Miguel’s watches so spot could have gone back in time and mess up the universe Miguel replaced himself in

I personally believe that Miguel's canon events arent real and are just a theory he strung together using similar enough events from the variant of *one* person (Peter Parker) to justify his actions. He's also using canon events as a tool to control spider-people he personally recruited, probably inadvertently causing deaths that could be prevented. he convinced these people that their suffering has meaning using something that doesn't really hold up when closely examined. i don't think his intentions are malicious but out of ignorance and guilt he's going to cause a lot of death and that's what's really going to drive home that he's wrong. also Miguel has some balls to mention the web of life and destiny to justify his actions when he can't even access it. it's why he doesn't have a Spidey sense. he's basically a mutant but not in the xgene sense. EDIT: I also think he deliberately recruited spider-folk he thinks he could influence and use. hobbie is an outlier to this but i think that was an infiltration to disrupt the spider society and to stop miguel. also it's deliberate that we don't see any other miles morales spider-men even though we as the audience knows they exist. if say ps4!miles was there alongside his ps4!peter it would make it harder to justify miguel's vendetta against 1610b/itvs!miles because it would point out that miguel's theory that only 1 spider-man at a time could exist on top of miles being spider-man not being an anomaly. there's also comics!miles(1610/616) who's a child of two universes and shares the title with no issue with 616!peter. tldr: miguel is full of it and is basically pulling a batman at his worst: a controlling, manipulative messed up man who thinks he has to be in control of everything in order to save people but will f up badly harming them instead. he singled out miles on purpose because his existence pokes holes in his canon event excuse and will cause the spider-society to question him and themselves. he doesnt truly know what caused his stolen life to be erased and is just looking for something convenient while blaming himself.

It's hinted that Gwen might have a link to the web and destiny

Finally some good theory great work keep it up love your videos

2:40 no they didn’t know. When he said to go after miles there was another Spider-Man coming out of sector 4 aka where Miguel told them where miles is. Idk if you heard someone say,” is that him” look again at the clip. You will hear it!

If Miles is an anomaly then canon events shouldn't apply to him.

It seems like there's some overlap between Miguel and He Who Remains. Both of them think or claim they're protecting the multiverse from something, but do so in a way that curtails free will. Miguel's model is much looser given the diverse variety of spider people, but is strict on certain things. I don't think Miguel is a true villain, however. I think it's possible the third movie will introduce the Inheritors and show them as having tricked him somehow. While that's a bit late in the series, we do know that other future Sony Spiderman related movies may tie in to the Spiderverse, so them being introduced doesn't mean it's where they're the primary villain, or they could even go on to appear in MCU projects for all we know if Sony doesnt' want to go in depth with them.

Miles from ultimate. Miles from 616. Miles from insomniac.

I agree that canon events are not a thing. The only thing we can connect between the universe-destroying disturbances is Alchemax and their (likely) use of colider tech. I only say this because where the Alchemax building, and the colider, landed in Mumbattan is where the universe-eating black hole originated from. Now, Miguel says there have been other universes that have been seemingly destroyed in this manner, but we don't know anything about them - so I am just working with what we have been shown/told.

When you started mentioning Hobie knowing the future, I was really hoping you were gonna mention my theory, which is that Hobie is future Miles. It would explain a few discrepancies like knowing to give Gwen a watch. Miles picked up that Gwen was in serious trouble before they entered Pav's universe, and Miles is smart enough to know that Gwen would have some serious consequences because of it. Another thing is why Hobie knows that Miles should use his palms. As you mentioned before, there isn't a Miles in the Spider-army, so why exactly would he know how to effectively use Miles' venom powers? We see Hobie take down the wall with a matter of playing strings on his guitar, so is it possible that the guitar amplifies the venom? It is an electric guitar, and the venom is bioelectricity, so it's not too far off. Hobie is the most interesting character solely because of this knowledge. It also seems like every Miles has the venom power, so it could be possible that a version of Peter slipped up and mentioned their version of Miles and his powers, but the question still remains of how Hobie would know that Miles should specifically use his palms. If this were true, this would create a loop in time where Hobie has to tell Miles to use his palms. Even down to the hair, they're similar. Disobeying and defying Miguel, knowing canon events are nonsense, their shared affection for Gwen, they feel like mirrors of each other, but one's older. I really need someone else to tell me their thoughts on this so I can strengthen this theory

Hobie is a time traveler

I have been waiting for this video, very good series so far, excited to be a new subscriber

Yeah even Miguel's in universe explanation doesn't make sense for him trying to stop miles from saving his dad. If Miguel thinks miles is an anomaly then saving his dad should not break cannon cause he's an anomaly. Actually miles dad dyeing would break cannon because a Spiderman's guardian is suppose to die.

We see multiple Miles variants in the Spider Society headquarters. The only spider variant we haven’t seen is Gwen. (Which will supposedly be explored in the next movie). I think that Miguel’s multiverse tech is narrow compared to the whole spider verse or even the Web of Life and Destiny. He’s based his whole motive on limited information with the help from an algorithm. I’m sure we will see so many more variants and styles in the next movie.

I feel both miles 42’s will fuse with our miles bringing slight differences but a beautiful ending like uncle Aaron coming back and miles not being the anomaly

GREAT VIDEO!!! Amazing research 🙏🏾

what if miles absorb The Spot Ability? if miles absorb The Spot Ability, miles will not glitching in every other Universe and can go to every other universe without using WATCH GIZMO because miles can absorb power and some Question " what are the differents between GIZMO and GOOBER? " in movie into the spider verse peter call override key "GOOBER" Spiderman noir call COLLIDER "Gizmo" Miquel first Time Get Watch Call it "GOOBER" Lyla Replied it is "GIZMO" GIZMO cause problem GOOBER the Cure

And in ps4 spider man they are two spider man in inside but miguel sayed there cant be two spider in one universe

Miguel caused an incursion. Doctor strange was in 838, a universe he didn’t belong to, and as a result put the universe at risk for an incursion. Miguel did this by replacing himself and therefore was in a universe he didn’t belong to. The boundary between his original universe and the new universe collided clearly destroying the new one while his old one remained intact.

Loved the video u make me so excited to watch the next part of the movie

Hi!

A theory I just thought about is adding on to the whole Hobie speculation. Another thing that I am thinking, is that, well, everyone knows the theory about how in the first movie they used frame rates to show how skilled a spiderman was. This is especially see in the scene where Miles and Peter are running from doc Ock. Well, Hobie, pretty obviously, seems to be at a relatively low frame rate compared to everyone else, so what if that means, that even with how smart and powerful Hobie is because of that, he is NOWHERE near his fullest potential because he hasn't unlocked everything there is to know just yet. 🕷️🕸️🕷️🕸️

I think the movie is heavily foreshadowing that Miguel is lying. Multiple people point out that he's different from the others. Peter B says "how come you're not funny? Spider-people are supposed to be funny" and then later Miles says "are you sure you're even a spider-man?" Shortly after this, Miguel straight up says that *Miles* is not supposed to be spider-man and that Miles is an anomaly. I think this is foreshadowing that Miguel is creating unnecessary anomalies in the multiverse by trying to enforce this rigid structure on the spider-man story. When Miles asks how they know what is supposed to happen, Lyla says "what's what the model says." Who made this "model" and how do they know it's accurate? The first movie ended with Miles saying "anyone can wear the mask." The second movie splits the spider-people into two factions. One faction says "anyone can wear the mask as long as they follow the canon" and the other faction disagrees with that. The third film will probably need to explain why Miguel is wrong and why Miles and co are right.

Second.....goddammit

I loved both movies. It's refreshing to see them back-to-back to keep all the information fresh and ready when you need it. I think Miguel was only trying to explain things from what he experienced without having full knowledge of what made all the people disappear in his version of his canon event story. So he put the blame on Miles because even though Earth-42 Miles was supposed to be bit by the spider intended for that Miles. The Spider still bit a Miles on another earth, which still counts and still sticks to the theory of Miles becoming Spider-Man just from a different earth, and not the Miles from the intended Earth-42 who actually is The Prowler because of Earth-42's Aaron Davis.

11:24 Hobie is a real one 🤝 he saw thru Miguel’s bs

Miguel: You are an anomaly. Loki: I'ma bout to ruin this man's whole career.

With your theory that there is time travel, In the first movie miles is late to class and when called out he says "Einstein says time is relative, right? Maybe i'm not late, maybe you're early". It would be interesting if that was a plot device right from the beginning of the first movie, and the issues with him being an anomaly relate to people reacting to Miles because they are seeing him/his actions in the wrong frame of time.

Canon events might never exist in universes without spidermen, so that would mean the spider bite is not a canon event instead it starts canon events

I love the way you make videos, keep it up!

I think that Miles is not an anomaly just because the spider bit him before he even could do anything with the collider so that means Miles have to become spider-man so the spider can be teleported to his dimension.

I’ve been waiting all month for this

My theory is that anomalies and canon events are suppose to coexist with each other

7:12 That was a diagram created to help explain canon events to Spider-people.

I think there isn't any Miles in the headquarters because only a few Miles have been bit, and some, (for example, the insomniac game universe) has both Peter and Miles, so Peter went while Miles stayed to protect New York.

Bro the thumbnail given off Game Theory Vibes tbh

Miles was bitten by a spider from Earth-42 which is why the send home machine sent him to that dimension and not Earth-1610. The Miles in 42 was supposed to become Spider-Man, he lost his dad which was also his Captain. But since he never got bit, he became the Prowler. Our Miles was never supposed to be the Spider-Man of Earth-1610. Peter Parker with the blonde hair was and he would've destroyed the collider and beat Kingpin and Green Goblin if he wasn't distracted with Miles.

the fact hes saying hobie as obie is killing me 😭😭😭😭

Most underrated channel out there man

- Hobie knew how to break the sheilds because it was a pillar of power that he learned how to destroy to fight against miguel