In theory the Cramina or the mina could work on a sailboat. The cremina Boiler is closed usually and the mina can be packed up for safe storrage.

Olympia responded to a similar question on Instagram. They said you have the inlet valve and the V-ring that are acting like an air valve essentially. The question was whether there is an air valve in the plunger so the Fellini pull doesn't unseat the puck from Lance himself.

Because Flair already solved the preheat issue like 4 years ago.

Its called Knob

your guess is even for us a bit high ;-)

It depends where you define astronomical ;-) but we did our best to be as inexpensive as possible.

I think you have to take into account how these are built. This is not mass produced. It is essentially made in a shop full of artisans who are highly skilled in their profession. This will be a purchase of a life time. Can you imagine the journey you can take with this little beauty and all the stories it will tell over the years. Imagine this at a fishing cabin or on your counter next to a Kafatek and a Strietman when not traveling! I see imense value in that sort of scenario.

@@olympiaexpress_sa Astromomical is way too high, - if reasonable I'm on board

​@@markhicks5569The Odyssey Argos is built in the same "artisan" way in Colorado and manages to compete in price with mass produced lever machines like those from La Pavoni and Elektra. And this is for a much more complex product than the Mina, with a boiler, software controlled PID with multiple temperature probes, spring lever design, steaming mode etc. I'd be very surprised if the Mina is lower in price than the Argos. It should be somewhere between the $500 Flair 58X (same capabilites) and the $1100 Argos, say $800? but my guess is it will be at least twice that price. I hope I'm wrong.

Will we know the price tomorrow?

Yes, it is fiting to our ecosystem

In theory yes but I doubt it would be good. Better make a strong shot and dilute it with hot water (Americano)

@@olympiaexpress_sa Thank you, I was thinking about the spro-over style.

Same question

Knob coffee grinder

correct

A part of it is cut out. it was better as it looks from this angle. Also keep in mind that not everybody makes RDT and WDT and so on. Many people like it easy, and that's the workflow we chose to show.

@@olympiaexpress_saSure - maybe WDT is a little over the top in a picknick scenario. But a light side tapping and evening out should have been possible 😉

I think you have to take into account how these are built. This is not mass produced. It is essentially made in a shop full of artisans who are highly skilled in their profession. This will be a purchase of a life time. Can you imagine the journey you can take with this little beauty and all the stories it will tell over the years. Imagine this at a fishing cabin or on your counter next to a Kafatek and a Strietman when not traveling! I see imense value in that sort of scenario.

@@markhicks5569 i have a cremina and multiple lever machines. i dont think it will be a purchase of a lifetime i think itll be a waste of money. even if i had no machine id know that this will not be temparature stable. same with many of these heaterless machines. its a block of metal and it will make sour coffee i guarantee :D even the picopresso is hard to heat up properly

@@Bbarm97 that is great insight. I do appreciate your experience. This is a good fit for me. I try to keep things simple. Strietman is my daily. I don’t want to deal with complex machines. I want to give this a try and see if I can make it work. Placing trust in Olympia that they are going to put out a product that may produce good shots.

I used to think that way as well until I realised there's always a kettle on hand wherever I stay if it's a hotel or an Airbnb.

@@tomsgrinderlab but do you have space to carry the weight? what is the advantage over a picopresso you can carry much much easier with you. grinder you need as well. like i just dont find it practical. for home use yes but needs a heater preferably. it wouldn't be so hard to make it with a simple low wattage heater to heat that volume of water

Not sure how this is less portable than a flair, looks more so a mon avis. PS this almost certainly be double the price of a flair, there are levels to this game and the precision machining that will have gone into this is will be unmatched compared to anything else on the market. And it will be totally worth every single euro.

Cafelat Robot says hi too.

@@hamishrobertson946 😂😂😂

@@hamishrobertson946 you can maybe, MAYBE make an argument for the FLAIR not being up to the par on built quality (although as a camping/portable espresso tool I don’t know why would you). With the Robot that argument is totally futile. Nothing comes close in terms of built at this price point (and many cases above it), it’s an engineering marvel. It’s built like a tank and will easily outlive 2 generations. It’s ridiculously low maintenance. Most people I know who have it for 6+ years have only replaced the piston seal, that’s it. And as efficiency goes, you can have espresso done and machine cleaned in less than 5-6 minutes. I respect Olympia and their quality standards but there are others out there at this point that can make equally robust and high quality machines without having to price them at ludicrous levels.

This has better workflow than the flair pro since it has a portafilter you can remove. It’s equivalent to the flair 58. So if it’s priced like the flair pro or less, it seems like the better choice.