Minato Namikaze VS Tobirama Senju

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SethTheProgrammer

SethTheProgrammer

6 жыл бұрын

The 2nd Hokage Tobirama Senju vs Minato Namikaze the 4th Hokage and Father of Naruto Uzumaki, who would win? Who is stronger? Who's better with flying raijin?
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@trashygamer7014
@trashygamer7014 3 жыл бұрын
Minato: I'm bad at sage mode Also Minato: *Instant Perfect Sage* Kakashi: I'm low on chakra Also Kakashi: *Kamui's 8 times in less than one chapter*
@sofac8252
@sofac8252 3 жыл бұрын
In both situations it was because of kyuubi chakra. minato didn't have enough chakra to perfect sage mode and that's why he didn't use it since flying raijin already spent much chakra so senjutsu wasn't beneficial for him. However when he was reanimated he had more chakra thanks to kyuubi so he achieved a better sage mode Kyuubi gave kakashi 3 times his chakra which according to kakashi in each time made his power and chakra reserves 3 times more.
@trashygamer7014
@trashygamer7014 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofac8252 eh no I don't think he had Kyuubi Chakra because he used Kamui alot before he even had Kyuubi chakra also, and Minato in his case I don't know if thats how sage made works, or at least I don't remember it could be.
@trashygamer7014
@trashygamer7014 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofac8252 Also you repeated yourself, about that Kakashi thing so idk how viable your info is
@sofac8252
@sofac8252 3 жыл бұрын
@@trashygamer7014 yes he had he just didn't have every time the kyuubi cloak. Minato said he isn't good at senjutsu and kakashi said "as far as i rememer sensei senjutsu isn't your forte" .. when did i repeat this with kakashi?🤣
@andrewmartel916
@andrewmartel916 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofac8252 no that’s not how sage mode works. They have to gather nature energy, not chakra, to use sage mode
@meeadrahman7308
@meeadrahman7308 3 жыл бұрын
Minato is the type of guy to go casually murder 5 platoons of soldiers and be home in time to cook for his wife
@8Smoker8
@8Smoker8 3 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is the kind of guy to kill his wife, reanimate her and have her kill Minato when he comes back home though. And blame it on the Uchiha.
@xenomoe9519
@xenomoe9519 3 жыл бұрын
@@8Smoker8 you make no sense
@ohaodhe
@ohaodhe 3 жыл бұрын
@@8Smoker8 "and blame it on the Uchiha" 🤣🤣🤣
@ppmpyae1152
@ppmpyae1152 3 жыл бұрын
@YOU DON'T WAN'T DE SMOCKE Why are you repeating?
@Ben-.-
@Ben-.- 3 жыл бұрын
@@8Smoker8 LMAO THATS KINDA TRUE
@Mrcaptainmorgan93
@Mrcaptainmorgan93 5 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks minato and tobirama should have a flying rai attack combo in the games?
@zayy9912
@zayy9912 5 жыл бұрын
Jared E O Speedwagon me
@chrono733
@chrono733 5 жыл бұрын
Meeeeee
@knownexploit3294
@knownexploit3294 5 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes YES
@emmanuelhurd866
@emmanuelhurd866 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck Yeah Dude!!!
@videosforthedisabled8491
@videosforthedisabled8491 5 жыл бұрын
No one
@nathanielgarrett1569
@nathanielgarrett1569 6 жыл бұрын
Most people think of Minato of kind-hearted. BUT THEY TEND TO FORGET THAT HE WAS A SAVAGE IN THE THIRD SHINOBI WORLD WAR.
@CosmosCat
@CosmosCat 5 жыл бұрын
That’s the way war works, be kind to your friends and savage to your enemies, otherwise your friends might end up getting killed. Minato is seen as nice because we saw him from his side of the war, he may not have been as nice if we saw him from any other side of the war.
@DJET723
@DJET723 5 жыл бұрын
nathaniel garrett since when the fuck was tobirama kind?
@pat8488
@pat8488 5 жыл бұрын
@@DJET723 but the op mentioned minato as kind, not tobirama
@DJET723
@DJET723 5 жыл бұрын
Pat Go I asked when was tobirama kind. Not minato
@pat8488
@pat8488 5 жыл бұрын
@@DJET723 yeah and im saying no one but you mentioned tobirama. i said the op mentioned minato. i didnt say you did
@Phoenix_KDE
@Phoenix_KDE 4 жыл бұрын
In regards to the Hiraishin no Jutsu.... Tobirama is like the guy who invented the moonwalk... Minato is Michael Jackson
@wulfo7272
@wulfo7272 4 жыл бұрын
Fax
@johnchoi4473
@johnchoi4473 4 жыл бұрын
Very accurate comparison
@yeetus8870
@yeetus8870 4 жыл бұрын
very wrong comparison but ok keep assuming
@Phoenix_KDE
@Phoenix_KDE 4 жыл бұрын
@@yeetus8870 @Yeetus how is it very wrong? There was a guy who created the moonwalk...Michael Jackson perfected it and made it more popular and is the person that the moonwalk is commonly associated with In a similar way...Tobirama created the Hiraishin no Jutsu, Minato is better at it than him and is the one who's recognized most for it. Can you provide insight into your opinion of the comparison being "very wrong?"
@monyetguru
@monyetguru 4 жыл бұрын
I like this analogy
@minato4203
@minato4203 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of boruto i wish we'd of gotten an anime/manga about the first ninja wars like season 1-2 follows hashirama and tobirama , season 3-4 follows the three sanin, season 5-6 follows minato. I didn’t realize how many likes this got till just now a year later lol thanks for the likes fellow shinobis Stay happy and stay healthy!
@missyaz4959
@missyaz4959 5 жыл бұрын
I wish it were the warring states periods instead there were so many clans involved which were unexplored. For example the extinct Hagoromo clan which were seen as OP. It would be interesting to see how it all began as well.
@camila-oq6sp
@camila-oq6sp 5 жыл бұрын
That sounds very interesting!
@sevnrin4134
@sevnrin4134 5 жыл бұрын
100th like
@scorpio34ish
@scorpio34ish 5 жыл бұрын
•Itz YM• and the uzumaki clan
@swaqqkinghood
@swaqqkinghood 5 жыл бұрын
Please go talk to kishimoto
@jesusofnazareth9272
@jesusofnazareth9272 6 жыл бұрын
Might I add that the rasengan is the highest form of chakra control. Minato also summoned gamabunta, removed the nine tails and sharingan connection, warped a fully charged nine tails biju bomb, used sage mode, bodied obito while pre occupied, and spammed flying raijin and still wasn’t fatigued. IN ONE NIGHT.
@EndeavorRose
@EndeavorRose 5 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@EndeavorRose
@EndeavorRose 5 жыл бұрын
tyrel ramnarine 💀😂
@LBK978
@LBK978 5 жыл бұрын
Fam, you don't know what you're talking about. Think about what you just said, "the rasengan is the highest form of chakra control." Naruto learned it when he was like 13 as did Konohamaru and Kakashi, and Jiraiya learned it as well. No Rasengan user has the chakra control to do medical ninjutsu. Rasengan is pure shape manipulation, not chakra control.
@daniel-xh5wi
@daniel-xh5wi 5 жыл бұрын
mans said he BODIED Obito, congrats minato u bodied a 14 y/o with no battle experience lmao
@viciqus6434
@viciqus6434 5 жыл бұрын
@@LBK978 4 people learned it, one was the descendant of the original creater, and taught by a legendary sannin, the other was a legendary sannin, kakashi never learned it he made his own variation. and the other one was the grandson of one of the strongest ninja ever.
@NarutoUzumaki-vn3sj
@NarutoUzumaki-vn3sj 4 жыл бұрын
Boruto’s grandpa Is pretty cool
@justablackpfp999
@justablackpfp999 4 жыл бұрын
He's a Mary sue
@7szko829
@7szko829 3 жыл бұрын
@gerizzyYMcrew31 he has no flaws
@7szko829
@7szko829 3 жыл бұрын
@gerizzyYMcrew31 do you know what a mary sue is?
@mistake1197
@mistake1197 3 жыл бұрын
@gerizzyYMcrew31 no no he has a point. I am unable to think of even one character flaw minato has. I mean. I could argue that hashirama is a gary stue I cant think of one flaw those two guys even have.
@LARODEO15
@LARODEO15 3 жыл бұрын
@@7szko829 im finding u everywhere anime related 😭💀
@UnPhayzable
@UnPhayzable 6 жыл бұрын
Tobirama and Hashirama died in pretty stupid ways compared to other Shinobi that were waaaay weaker than them
@randyparag4257
@randyparag4257 6 жыл бұрын
obvious plot induced deaths
@grrman
@grrman 6 жыл бұрын
How did Hashirama die though?
@grrman
@grrman 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that info? Which arc was it mentioned in? Yeah, ninja's become softer as the years progressed, which makes both Naruto and Sasuke so much stronger in comparison to their peers xD
@grrman
@grrman 6 жыл бұрын
Well, yeah. EMS Sasuke wasn't Madara level, that's for sure Naruto and Sasuke did become God's by the end of the series though. Natural talent aside, his insane Chakra reserves and strong lifeforce from his Uzumaki (and Senju) ties make Naruto super strong as is. The Nine-tailed fox was just a bonus
@whensue9386
@whensue9386 6 жыл бұрын
The Third Gate didn't hashirama die from overusing his healing Jutsu, hence why he died young?
@dw3504
@dw3504 6 жыл бұрын
Tobirama was killed by bad writing
@sageofinfinitepaths5738
@sageofinfinitepaths5738 6 жыл бұрын
So was Shisui, Minato, Madara, Hashirama....and Jiraiya.
@bradentucker8003
@bradentucker8003 6 жыл бұрын
True like hashirama should’ve of just got old like
@antonolofsson81
@antonolofsson81 6 жыл бұрын
SAGE OF INFINITE PATHS Not Minato
@michelgerber5781
@michelgerber5781 6 жыл бұрын
Jiraya too
@Yas-ei3st
@Yas-ei3st 6 жыл бұрын
SAGE OF INFINITE PATHS don't forget Itachi and Sakumo either
@tobiramasenju4663
@tobiramasenju4663 6 жыл бұрын
Hurts when you do me like that.........
@dynamoke4959
@dynamoke4959 4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, u r the best in naruto
@baldybabyboy9907
@baldybabyboy9907 4 жыл бұрын
Dyna Moke no
@dynamoke4959
@dynamoke4959 4 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is the best in my opinion
@mr.lolipopwithmustache5002
@mr.lolipopwithmustache5002 4 жыл бұрын
Tobirama has swag!!
@gamerdot1yt269
@gamerdot1yt269 4 жыл бұрын
I know all the uchihas
@martinbaraldilobe3334
@martinbaraldilobe3334 6 жыл бұрын
yellow flash vs water boi
@rodrigocancela9866
@rodrigocancela9866 5 жыл бұрын
Actually tobirama contributed more for this the shinobi world than minato
@matthewhernandez924
@matthewhernandez924 5 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo Cancela yeah cause minato had to carry it on
@UnkyShmunky
@UnkyShmunky 5 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo Cancela thanks
@jonhp3830
@jonhp3830 4 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo Cancela water boi
@puffy_jr7521
@puffy_jr7521 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigocancela9866 still doesn't make him a better shinobi. It actually works against him since he made justus so it gave time for minato to master them
@insertclevernamehere92
@insertclevernamehere92 4 жыл бұрын
“I suck at sage mode,” said Minato in the mastered form of sage mode
@uchihaitachi9968
@uchihaitachi9968 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@zacharynorth7013
@zacharynorth7013 3 жыл бұрын
Also goes into it an instant
@rustom6147
@rustom6147 3 жыл бұрын
Minato : "I suck at sage mode" Also Minato : *Blinks* _"Aight I am a perfect sage now"_
@sofac8252
@sofac8252 3 жыл бұрын
He was talking before he was reanimated. When he was reanimated he used kyuubi chakra too. Probably he didn't have enough chakra to perfect sage mode when he was alive like jiraiya's case but when he used kyuubi chakra he achieved a better sage mode.
@insertclevernamehere92
@insertclevernamehere92 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofac8252 but he still instantaneously entered the perfected form of sage mode. Jiraiya needed time just to hit the imperfect version. To use a technique at that level of proficiency when a less impressive display (Naruto being said to master it when he still needed time to build up energy) is called mastery and not be called a master is ridiculous. Also it’s not a matter of how much chakra you have, to get sage mode you need to have the same amount of nature energy as you do physical and spiritual energy (the two components of chakra) if you have more you turn into a toad and if you have less the nature energy is just expelled. Jiraiya simply couldn’t get the balance quite right and tended to gain some toad like features whenever he used it. That and he didn’t get as big a boost from it as naruto and minato.
@ryankinqxigaming2244
@ryankinqxigaming2244 6 жыл бұрын
TBH I think tobirama is underrated
@UnkyShmunky
@UnkyShmunky 5 жыл бұрын
RyankinqXI Gaming thanks
@nathanstones9805
@nathanstones9805 5 жыл бұрын
He is underated but hes not beating minato he is beating kisame tho
@Jack-nv8uc
@Jack-nv8uc 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan stones bruh in speed terms minato doesn’t stand a chance against tobirama, plus he’s probably the fastest out of all the hokage plus the creator of the kage bunshin
@user-wc7hk9ct4e
@user-wc7hk9ct4e 4 жыл бұрын
RyankinqXI Gaming overrated*
@natexxy207
@natexxy207 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-nv8uc no not at all, also hiruzen in his prime might be stronger
@DevendraMahendraSingh
@DevendraMahendraSingh 5 жыл бұрын
Ginkaku and Kinkaku were powerful because they were S-Class jonin who later got Nine-Tails power and Sage of Six Paths Ninja Tools. Ginkaku and Kinkaku with Nine-Tails power and Ninja Tools together with 20 S-Class Jonin against a lone Tobirama is no joke.
@viciqus6434
@viciqus6434 5 жыл бұрын
darui managed to defeat them wym. minato took out 1000 men by himself
@viciqus6434
@viciqus6434 5 жыл бұрын
@Assasin High he defeated them. he still did better than tobirama
@viciqus6434
@viciqus6434 5 жыл бұрын
@Assasin High wtf madara and tobirama arent even close in terms of power are you high?
@viciqus6434
@viciqus6434 5 жыл бұрын
@Assasin High yeah they were like 15 lmao madara wasnt even the strongest uchiha back then
@viciqus6434
@viciqus6434 5 жыл бұрын
@Assasin High ems is unlocked from transporting a sharingan into another uchihas eyes lmao it doesnt take skill to get it
@juanmartini1989
@juanmartini1989 4 жыл бұрын
Tobirama flexinghis chakara was amazing 😂 he’s my favorite hokage
@nzbucke5465
@nzbucke5465 3 жыл бұрын
I agree he was a bad ass and genius when it came t creating jutsu but still... minto would mop the floor with him
@vinny2333
@vinny2333 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao hashirama did it better
@WookJnr
@WookJnr 3 жыл бұрын
@@nzbucke5465 Hashirama would mop the floor with minato too.
@xAmiin
@xAmiin 3 жыл бұрын
@@nzbucke5465 Hahahhaaa, what a deluded idiot you are indeed.
@jw-ws8dz
@jw-ws8dz 3 жыл бұрын
dude got the best drip too
@sixpathsichirakuramenguy2580
@sixpathsichirakuramenguy2580 6 жыл бұрын
Me VS Madara
@daniellewandowski6945
@daniellewandowski6945 6 жыл бұрын
You stomp in base
@TuxedoedLyric61
@TuxedoedLyric61 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke, you fucking stomp lmao
@pulsjax8003
@pulsjax8003 6 жыл бұрын
I heard from Farmer with a shotgun that you're brothers, that said...you'd completely destroy Madara no dif
@sixpathsichirakuramenguy2580
@sixpathsichirakuramenguy2580 6 жыл бұрын
Pulsjax A.K.A Nitroburst its true
@tjsidhu2649
@tjsidhu2649 6 жыл бұрын
u stomp in any form
@aprildanielleperez
@aprildanielleperez 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, doodle bob stomps these guys.
@ssj9devil
@ssj9devil 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Lopez everybody gets stomped by Doodle Bob
@wtfguythefirst1366
@wtfguythefirst1366 6 жыл бұрын
you do know your not funny right stop with the dumb comments
@ssj9devil
@ssj9devil 6 жыл бұрын
Wtfguythefirst 13 don’t take yourself too seriously, you don’t wanna look like you have a broom rammed up your ass.
@Exoulos
@Exoulos 6 жыл бұрын
Wtfguythefirst 13 stop being a buzz kill
@yreina
@yreina 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Lopez doodle bob>TOAA, he could just erase his all the comics he's appeared in and gg.
@ivoarmstrong9894
@ivoarmstrong9894 3 жыл бұрын
Lets all take a moment to appreciate the amount of time or money tobirama spent to attach a piece of fur to his senju armor.
@skyhigh2502
@skyhigh2502 3 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna be a badass ninja who can take on 20 S-Class Shinobi, you gotta have some drip.
@markbulford6167
@markbulford6167 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see the writers do tobirama justice by animating his death fight and showing us how many kick ass jutsu he’s capable of
@99sonicrocks
@99sonicrocks 6 жыл бұрын
How about settling the debate of SpongeBob vs Goku. These weebs think Goku can beat someone who can DRIVE rocks!
@kindabland8687
@kindabland8687 6 жыл бұрын
99sonicrocks AND HE STARTS FIRES UNDER WATER!
@nift2923
@nift2923 6 жыл бұрын
“Where’s my drink”?
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
99sonicrocks PLEASE DO THIS VIDEO
@imnotaweebushitcuntmooneas6350
@imnotaweebushitcuntmooneas6350 6 жыл бұрын
99sonicrocks spongebob stomps no difficulty. In the words of 🅱️eth🅱️he🅱️rogrammer, this is one sided shit
@friend7535
@friend7535 6 жыл бұрын
99sonicrocks spongebob can dead ass become a goofy goober and solo the dragon ball verse...
@rentab9099
@rentab9099 6 жыл бұрын
This was barely even 'Minato Namikaze VS Tobirama Senju', and more of 'Why Minato Namikaze is stronger than Tobirama Senju'. Which I'm not complaining about.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
And is accurate
@woof6021
@woof6021 4 жыл бұрын
@@dusk6159 LMAO no it isnt
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@woof6021 How so?
@dusangigachad2264
@dusangigachad2264 4 жыл бұрын
@@dusk6159 it is very much noy
@dusangigachad2264
@dusangigachad2264 4 жыл бұрын
@@dusk6159 dude do you have discord or something we can start a disscusion about this
@MyNegroAcademia
@MyNegroAcademia 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t being a Sage automatically make you a Sensory-Type?
@debunked2923
@debunked2923 5 жыл бұрын
My Negro Academia yes sir,a very good one at that
@R3N3GAD3RY
@R3N3GAD3RY 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@air.tyrxse
@air.tyrxse 4 жыл бұрын
Idk
@hesally2343
@hesally2343 4 жыл бұрын
no jiraiya couldn't sense a pain five meters away
@R3N3GAD3RY
@R3N3GAD3RY 4 жыл бұрын
Pervy Sage wasn't a perfect sage so in his case I doubt it.. but Hashi, and naruto could. Idk about kabuto
@hennigod8957
@hennigod8957 3 жыл бұрын
lets be honest swag hates tobirama because tobirama hates uchihas
@toddty11
@toddty11 3 жыл бұрын
You’re spot on. I think that’s what it is too.
@toddty11
@toddty11 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine coming up with All these cool efficient new jutsus no one has ever seen then getting judged harshly because someone focused in and specifically perfected one of those 2,000 jutsus you mastered and created☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️
@hennigod8957
@hennigod8957 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddty11 yeah it's total BS, I'd say tobirama would wreck minato with the exception of a hypothetical kcm 2 + Sm minato, that's where I'd see minato having more of a chance
@toddty11
@toddty11 3 жыл бұрын
@@hennigod8957 facts.
@Ben-.-
@Ben-.- 3 жыл бұрын
@@hennigod8957 no, Minato would destroy tobirama. The man can just mark him, teleport, and boom, done. So, what can tobirama do to counter that? And I’m not even including his perfect sage mode either. Minato fought Obito when he was kage level. Obito at that time killed all of the mist anbu ninjas like it was nothing, trained by madara, has literally a broken mangekyou sharingan ability that doesn’t allow you to touch him at all. He could also teleport someone to another dimension with his kamui (which he tried to do with Minato but minato escaped it). And I haven’t even mentioned one thing yet, Obito at that time also had Hashirama cells. He was like kage level already. But despite all that, Minato defeated him not long after he teleported away from Obito. And that’s not all, he even teleported away the nine tails bijuu bomb AND the ten tails as well AND he did that when he wasn’t revived with full power in the war. Also, in the fight against Obito, after he defeated Obito, he had to fight the nine tails afterwards as well. He protected the hidden leaf from all that. And, he could’ve survived, but I think he chose to die for naruto to become stronger with the nine tails’ power. Because he was planning to use the reaper death seal to seal the nine tails in naruto for him to be able to control its powers in the future.
@EinManU
@EinManU 6 жыл бұрын
Pls dissect dissection!
@micahthomas6600
@micahthomas6600 6 жыл бұрын
Listening to you two talk about Minato's sage mode (in this video specifically) made me realize something. Minato is one of the fastest shinobi in existence. Regardless of how you think about it, Sage mode requires some time and focus to activate. So, what if Minato learned sage mode but then stopped using it because it was too slow for him? - Jiraya had Ma and Pa. - Naruto had shadow clones. Fusing with Ma and Pa is something Jiraya did because he was bad at gathering nature energy in the heat of battle. Minato was clearly capable of gathering nature energy just fine, so he wouldn't need Ma and Pa for that. The other reason would be so that Minato could focus on battle while Ma and Pa gather nature energy for him. However, summoning Ma and Pa the way Jiraya did is far too slow and loud for Minato's fast and spontaneous fighting style. Minato's chakra reserves probably suck in comparison to Naruto's. Even if he had mastered the shadow clones, it wouldn't make sense for him to rely on shadow clones the same way Naruto does. Heck. Tobirama invented the shadow clone jutsu and doesn't rely on it like Naruto does. Sasuke is the second strongest shinobi in the leaf village and he can't create half as many clones now as Naruto could when he was a child. So its not about whether or not he can enter sage mode. It's more likely about Minato being able to effectively utilize the technique with his flying Raijin style. Why waste time gathering nature energy or summoning toads when you can just teleport behind your target and assassinate them in the blink of an eye? Minato probably realized this and stopped using Sage mode because he didn't need it. It's far too slow, it's risky, and it's probably pointless in 90% of his battles.
@luisrosales2856
@luisrosales2856 6 жыл бұрын
Good comment but I really think that Minato is a ninja that wants to master everything he wants. We saw he instantly enter to sage mode, he could do instant K.O sage rasengan to anyone. Minato was 24 when he died and had many abilities if not the most versatile ninja ever. Here is what he mastered: Sage Mode: Perfect Sage User. He just needed more mastery like Naruto or Hashirama, but he is in 3rd place. Kabuto does not count since he gather different DNA. Minato is natural Chakra: By feats he is top 10 or even top 5 in Konoha. Naruto > Hashirama > Minato > Tobirama > Jiraiya. Sensor: Minato is also top 5 or maybe even the best together with Tobirama. Karin is not the best. Fuinjutsu: He is the greatest ninja in fuinjutsu skills. Chakra Control: He is like second best chakra control ninja, he know a lot of techniques of chakra control. The first might be Naruto. Barriers: He has master it and can erect the best barrier in the 4th war. Speed: He is the best in this department. Space Time Jutsus: Not even if Obito had a better technique, Minato was better than him and Tobirama. Toad Summons: Minato is on or near the level of Jiraiya. According to databook. Gerotora is a weird summon even between the weird ones and Minato summon it like nothing. And to summon it is needed a certain level of mastery. Minato knew pretty well those kind of frogs. I could say he master the toad summons to. Intelligence: He is said the number 1 and Itachi number 2. He is the best. Well, in almost all fields, if he is not number 1 he is in the top 5.
@luisrosales2856
@luisrosales2856 6 жыл бұрын
True, Minato can create a Senpuo Rasengan in a blink and attack. Even if he cant maintain sage mode as fast as Hashirama in a blink, Minato can gather for an ultimate K.O Senuo Rasengan.
@JayKelShua
@JayKelShua 5 жыл бұрын
To argue your shadow clone point they probably dont use them simply because that's not their style. Yea naruto could spam shadow clones like nothing but pretty much everyone he fought could one shot his clones with ease so at certain points they were kinda useless
@luh-mao6434
@luh-mao6434 5 жыл бұрын
Sage Mode isn’t a certain speed but instead like a multiplier to speed and strength. You view it as Sage Mode being a certain range or increase in power in speed but instead it is a percentage increase like 2.5x or 5.4x
@Jorozco3708
@Jorozco3708 5 жыл бұрын
As i agree that he doesnt need it but Hes a Perfect sage and can enter sage mode in like 10 seconds so it would have bern useful against something like the ninetails
@jamesmckinney6768
@jamesmckinney6768 5 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is my favorite character from the Naruto series. He is such a troll. ^-^ Not to mention he looks completely badass.
@morphingninja
@morphingninja 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree Tobirama has the best design of the Hokage, followed by Minato, and old Hiruzen in battle attire.
@Qball464
@Qball464 4 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is the reason all the stuff happened. Look at how he treated the Uchia. To be honest between him and Hiruzen they were the biggest factors in the harsh treatment of them. Yes you could add the coward known as danzo but they were the hokage.
@derpyderp1144
@derpyderp1144 4 жыл бұрын
@One dude he literally despised them just watch the series and pay attention. He wanted to kill all of them just incase another madara rose up. And guess what sasuke and obito were basically it.
@KeenanRuffinEl
@KeenanRuffinEl 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Johnson tobirama was right though
@tiaaaron3278
@tiaaaron3278 4 жыл бұрын
@@Qball464 How did he treat the Uchiha? Tobirama gave them exclusive power over police force and even trained an Uchiha named Kagami. Tobirama was so generous toward them. Other clans were given no such powers. It's Madara who ruined everything.
@user-yd9xy1qe5y
@user-yd9xy1qe5y 5 жыл бұрын
Says how Tobirama praises Minato's FTG, shows page where Tobirama praises Minato's Body Flicker.
@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen
@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen 5 жыл бұрын
Никол Илиева lol
@shalltearbloodfallen7226
@shalltearbloodfallen7226 4 жыл бұрын
But Kidomaru’s curse mark not only was weaker than Sasuke’s, he was in his ‘final form’, whereas they weren’t talking about Sasuke’s final form in the video you’re referencing
@zeromaniac5210
@zeromaniac5210 3 жыл бұрын
They were referencing the anime.
@harrisonpike4973
@harrisonpike4973 3 жыл бұрын
@3rd Way It literally gives you senjutsu
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
Swagkage make a what if video explaining what would happen if Kakashi never got a sharingan
@dweebpatrol
@dweebpatrol 6 жыл бұрын
So this would be like if Kakashi didn't lose his eye so he didn't get Obito's. Kakashi would've been much weaker throughout the series, still talented but not the legendary ninja he would have been, if we assume that he they could still make it to the war without Kakashi being to weak to keep the story going then they would be fucked, Obito would have both mangekyou, because Madara would have made sure that Obito saw Kakashi kill Rin like he did in the story, and they don't have ranged Kamui to counter Obito but he does so he can just pick them off one by one. Obito becomes the 10 tails jinchuriki, if Madara can get the 10 tails out then he becomes the jinchuriki, either way Kaguya probably gets brought back, Kaguya wins. I assume that's how it would go
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
Tree Swing very true. But think of it as Kakashi who never had the sharingan to rely on meaning he probably would've trained hard.
@tameloszn
@tameloszn 6 жыл бұрын
You should ask this to Kryptonian Saiyan! He's really good with what-if theories
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
Killua Zoldyck think it would be interesting to see
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
Tamir K ighttt
@winstonlewis5630
@winstonlewis5630 6 жыл бұрын
Swagkage and seth just gave Minato that good *s* *u* *c* *c*
@informationalgame2007
@informationalgame2007 6 жыл бұрын
Winston Lewis they do Everytime
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 6 жыл бұрын
Winston Lewis that awkward moment when the entire fandom believes that Tobirama said that Minato was better with the Flying Raijin, but he actually said "Shunshin" which is actually body flicker.
@avalac7412
@avalac7412 6 жыл бұрын
minato is better at both..he`s better at striking with the ftg, and can teleport more people away, warp bijuu dama`s..the list goes on and on!
@xyamikaze3144
@xyamikaze3144 6 жыл бұрын
The Third Gate lmao good one
@shafeckbrown496
@shafeckbrown496 6 жыл бұрын
The Third Gate tobirama would LOOOOOOOSE
@migueldiaz9876
@migueldiaz9876 4 жыл бұрын
I think Gingaku and Kinkaku were meant to be a lot stronger. They were shown to be way too weak in the ninja war. They should of been like 2 killer bees.
@chadh6785
@chadh6785 3 жыл бұрын
Reanimations are weakened but I agree. A lot of the reanimated ninjas were weaker.
@_henzo3259
@_henzo3259 3 жыл бұрын
Fr being beaten by Ino, Shikamaru and Choji put them down 😂
@enhaworld
@enhaworld 3 жыл бұрын
“hashirama’s not even under my control” *tobirama on the verge of breaking out orochimaru’s control* senju brothers be like breed: different
@its_hokori
@its_hokori 6 жыл бұрын
Don't use the war arc for scaling, tenten beat kakuzu with 1 so6p tool. So what is tenten kakuzu level? lmao
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124 5 жыл бұрын
Tenten is the best character in Naruto
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 4 жыл бұрын
No it just means that the Sage of Six Paths tools are really powerful
@sarasidai679
@sarasidai679 4 жыл бұрын
She beat Kakuzu's masks, not Kakuzu himself. Kakuzu was fighting a whole bunch of people at the same time during the war.
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 4 жыл бұрын
@@sarasidai679 The point is if Kakuzu fought Kinkaku and Ginkaku, Kinkaku would spam his banana palm fan and wreck all of Kakuzu's hearts.
@sarasidai679
@sarasidai679 4 жыл бұрын
Very likely.
@XxXasparXxX
@XxXasparXxX 6 жыл бұрын
So sad they didn’t make a proper minato filler, there’s so much to tell about him, he is such a god
@kingortizjr.7580
@kingortizjr.7580 6 жыл бұрын
i think minato never really ever uses his full power. His to laid back
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@imtheonehero9305
@imtheonehero9305 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. He's overrated. kishimoto didn't know wth to do with him
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 4 жыл бұрын
@@imtheonehero9305 how is he overrated though? Most comments I see on minato says he's trash,weaker than tsunade, slow as early Shippuden naruto, don't have chakra reserves, he rasengan is a ball of nothing, people say he's the worst hokage, kakuzu solos, useless, weaker than sakura ( saw the same for tobirama once) hebi Sasuke solos, rasenshuriken naruto before sage mode is stronger than him, not a needed character,weaker than kakashi and old hiruzen, has no good ninjutsu etc. He's dissed in almost all forums I see,so how is he overrated? If anything he's very underrated, but my opinion though.
@milodag7638
@milodag7638 4 жыл бұрын
@@momotheone9700 lol it's the truth he overated like Uchiha I mean except for madara
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 4 жыл бұрын
@@milodag7638 did you not just read my comment? These are things they say about minato dude, how is he overrated when these things are being said about the character?
@Shxnkzwrld_
@Shxnkzwrld_ 5 жыл бұрын
its sad we never really got to see tobirama cut loose
@yfsfundocele344
@yfsfundocele344 5 жыл бұрын
HE did he wasn't fast enough to match juubito so he played backup to naruto,sasuke and minato since they were fast enough.
@Shxnkzwrld_
@Shxnkzwrld_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@yfsfundocele344 when i say cut loose i mean like himjust going off like when itachi faught kcm1 naruto like have his moment, all we saw tobirama do was loose he nevert got his moment
@yfsfundocele344
@yfsfundocele344 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shxnkzwrld_ ow yeah true i think masashi was overloaded with characters .
@Shxnkzwrld_
@Shxnkzwrld_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@yfsfundocele344 yeah he added so many side characters and gave all of them some type of spot light
@Aromatic-ring
@Aromatic-ring 4 жыл бұрын
yfSfundo Cele And that’s not true or proven at all. Tobirama matched Minato’s speed in the war bud.
@justinherman2418
@justinherman2418 6 жыл бұрын
Boruto's dad vs Sarada's dad
@samueloh12345able
@samueloh12345able 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Herman so naruto vs sasuke, smh
@jerrytomas3136
@jerrytomas3136 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Oh That was the meme you idiot
@samueloh12345able
@samueloh12345able 6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Tomas how the fuck is that a meme lmao
@rewrose2838
@rewrose2838 6 жыл бұрын
Kiba VS Choji then?
@SteFive
@SteFive 6 жыл бұрын
"My dad will beat your dad!"
@DanTheDoodler
@DanTheDoodler 6 жыл бұрын
Love that new intro Seth. Also I'm pissed that my post notifications didn't go off
@DanTheDoodler
@DanTheDoodler 6 жыл бұрын
Same shit here bro
@nathanieldouglass4346
@nathanieldouglass4346 6 жыл бұрын
Dan I love you
@DanTheDoodler
@DanTheDoodler 6 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel ! Ily2 bb
@nathanieldouglass4346
@nathanieldouglass4346 6 жыл бұрын
Dan 😍😘
@sixpathsichirakuramenguy2580
@sixpathsichirakuramenguy2580 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Hello Dan... perhaps I may offer you a bowl of noodles?
@andrewmatseshe7343
@andrewmatseshe7343 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm a Tobiramatard (cause he looks so dope) BUT, MADARA, the one character tracking like the past 4 generations of Shinobi said something like, "you who once held the title as the fastest Shinobi." I give it to Minato mid to high-dif😕
@dawizz98
@dawizz98 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Matseshe "held"= past tense
@RanMaru144
@RanMaru144 4 жыл бұрын
@@dawizz98 cause his dead tf
@shalltearbloodfallen7226
@shalltearbloodfallen7226 4 жыл бұрын
No, because in the past i.e The Warring States Era, his variant of Flying Raijin was a big deal. Tobirama’s variants of all the jutsu he created are beyond irrelevant End of Series. Not to mention, I doubt Tobirama is tagging Madara anyway, nor do I see Madara taking him serious to begin with. That’s head cannon ofc, but this guy toyed with the 5 Kage like dolls. He was dicking around imo
@RipleySawzen
@RipleySawzen 4 жыл бұрын
@@shalltearbloodfallen7226 To be fair, non-konoha Kage are shit
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 4 жыл бұрын
@@RipleySawzen no the 3rd raikage is strong, mu and gengetsu are strong as well.
@SanjiFansCopeHarder
@SanjiFansCopeHarder 5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t tobirama created the reanimation jutsu?
@joshuaanthony6323
@joshuaanthony6323 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@drshrimp2757
@drshrimp2757 4 жыл бұрын
When he would use it, it was very under developed and the shinobi were very weak
@Ilkdjan123
@Ilkdjan123 4 жыл бұрын
He created a lot of jutsu. Lika A LOT.
@air.tyrxse
@air.tyrxse 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@icydigitalhero4852
@icydigitalhero4852 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like minato great use of sealing jutsus he got from the uzamaki could of dealt with that
@evildan1881
@evildan1881 6 жыл бұрын
Well it took long enough
@evildan1881
@evildan1881 6 жыл бұрын
Wonder who will win
@awso1000
@awso1000 6 жыл бұрын
Evil Dan woah
@Johanisnotreal
@Johanisnotreal 6 жыл бұрын
Woah another dan
@inigmianstudios2771
@inigmianstudios2771 6 жыл бұрын
Evil Dan my lord, I have awaited you
@tjsidhu2649
@tjsidhu2649 6 жыл бұрын
how many dans are there at least 9000
@bradleycouture9138
@bradleycouture9138 4 жыл бұрын
Okay and tobirama also has the reanimation jutsu. And you know who is dead? Thats right, his bigger brother Hashirama. Check mate.
@burningpotato9447
@burningpotato9447 4 жыл бұрын
Orichimaru perfected it. The reanumation justu that he made was weak. The third hokage beat both him and hashrama while like in his 80s while fighting oruchimaru. The 4th hokage could beat him
@thesavagetaxman846
@thesavagetaxman846 4 жыл бұрын
@@burningpotato9447 Are we all forgetting that Tobirama beats Minato in every category that isn't speed? He's way better in tijustsu and ninjustu, (he also has a larger arsenal of ninjustu) he has larger Chakra reserves and more experience. Even if Minato is faster than him, Tobirama has shown himself to be very proficient at the flying raijin justu, so he should be able to at least keep up with Minato.
@wulfo7272
@wulfo7272 4 жыл бұрын
@@thesavagetaxman846 I agree with some statements but I'm gonna have to say that I think there is no way tobiramas re animation was better than orochimarus
@blaise4661
@blaise4661 4 жыл бұрын
The Savage Taxman, Minato has KCM and a whole 9 tails mode. It’s barely even debatable at Minato’s base. So when you take in the fact that he’s a jinchuriki, he’s smashing Tobi 10/10 times
@blaise4661
@blaise4661 4 жыл бұрын
The Savage Taxman he also does not have more chakra than Minato via KCM. Minato also has Nature energy.
@jimmycruz7172
@jimmycruz7172 4 жыл бұрын
actually tobirama said your "SHUNSHIN" is better than mine aka his body flicker
@mightguy3118
@mightguy3118 3 жыл бұрын
Tobirama and minato Don't have the body flicker lmao
@user-hp5to4vi1y
@user-hp5to4vi1y 3 жыл бұрын
That will just mean his movement is better than tobirama
@ohboi9578
@ohboi9578 2 жыл бұрын
@@mightguy3118 most shinobi does. that's how you do the substitution jutsu
@ashsayshey701
@ashsayshey701 2 жыл бұрын
@@mightguy3118 they do...
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that Darui argument is nonsense. They were reanimations, they were faced with many people, not at full strength, and they were sealed. I don't know why you didnt mention that they were pseudo jincuriki after their exploits within the belly of kurama
@kamranemin5356
@kamranemin5356 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Wasee that was a side talk. Nobody is arguing that tobirama is weak, but he doesnt win against minato
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamranemin5356 Right. Anyways, Darui only managed to seal a weakened Kinkaku/Ginkaku while they were distracted WITH THE EXTREMELY POWERFUL SAGE NINJA TOOLS. If he didn't have the sealing pot, he would have died. These tools are powerful and they weren't even darui's
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124
@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamranemin5356 And yeah Minatos stronger
@kamranemin5356
@kamranemin5356 3 жыл бұрын
Rational Talc yes, not to mention he fought another 20 ninjas along with the duo, which he called “extremely skilled”. If someone like him is calling them skilled they gotta be AT LEAST anbu level, so 20 anbu level ninjas, so that argument is long dead now
@hennigod8957
@hennigod8957 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamranemin5356 minato is not beating tobirama
@CloudyK1ng
@CloudyK1ng 6 жыл бұрын
If you see The Yellow Flash run
@runtz7832
@runtz7832 6 жыл бұрын
haha pp swole
@antislutful
@antislutful 5 жыл бұрын
Only shit she's good at, might as well try. Hahahahaha
@KaoticKaden
@KaoticKaden 5 жыл бұрын
I like your account name
@abhisheksuratkar
@abhisheksuratkar 5 жыл бұрын
If you feel useless remember people still use this lame ass Itachi-Kurenai thing
@KaoticKaden
@KaoticKaden 5 жыл бұрын
@@abhisheksuratkar would you prefer danzo stabbing susano'o with a kunei knife (idk how yo spell it)
@abhisheksuratkar
@abhisheksuratkar 5 жыл бұрын
@@KaoticKaden & that was also his first time ever seeing Susanoo and as he himself said he tried stabbing just to test myths of Susanoo being unbreakable perfect shield
@tymoylan5886
@tymoylan5886 5 жыл бұрын
You two should do more colab videos, you seemed to have great chemistry.
@Megametalwolf
@Megametalwolf 5 жыл бұрын
Tobi did create the bulk of plot related ninja techniques. So he has some skill
@niqsnice2660
@niqsnice2660 4 жыл бұрын
The point wasn't that he isn't skilled, the point is that minato is blantenly better then tobirama and like 50 percent of tobiramas own moves he created, plus minato has sage mode and kcm tobi has no chance
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 3 жыл бұрын
Minato just built upon and improved what came before. If Tobirama didn't create the shadow clones and FTG Minato wouldn't be as OP as he is
@brokage8398
@brokage8398 3 жыл бұрын
@@richborn6700 ok and? That doesn't matter. What matters is that he is better than tobirama than him at the jutsu
@xAmiin
@xAmiin 3 жыл бұрын
@@brokage8398 Therefore thanks to the one who created it in the first place ffs. The fourth would never be as strong as he is without the techniques created by the second, and im pretty sure that he has other forbidden techniques that we might not know of that could defeat the fourth on a one on one fight. Idiots should stop underestimating the second, the fourth is strong but not on the same level as the second.
@brokage8398
@brokage8398 3 жыл бұрын
@@xAmiin and? Didn't matter when it's directly stated that Minato is better than Tobirama at the flying raijin. When Minato has perfect sage mode, a better flying raijin, and is smarter. Also no Tobirama doesn't, you can't say I'm sure we're going off of what's canon not what you want to be canon. Everything Tobirama has Minato is better. Tobirama loses
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
At least Dan isn't in these comments
@AyoCoffeeSama
@AyoCoffeeSama 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly he is. Evil Dan that is.
@lostkage769
@lostkage769 6 жыл бұрын
TCrimson Reaper really?
@AyoCoffeeSama
@AyoCoffeeSama 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. He has already invaded the comment section :(
@DanTheDoodler
@DanTheDoodler 6 жыл бұрын
Lost *Clears throat*
@madden1733
@madden1733 6 жыл бұрын
Dan lol
@Cainbang
@Cainbang 6 жыл бұрын
The thing people don't take in to account is that the jutsu's tobirama made during his time was completely ground breaking trying to say that minito is as smart as tobirama or anywhere near him is a joke of course someone is able to make a jutsu stronger 40+ years later after someone already has the basics of how to do it minito is fast plus with his flying rajin is absolutely insane but give credit were credit is due
@codeblueduceduce
@codeblueduceduce 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Cain i said it earlier but the thing is minati didnt do much to change thd technique. he just figured that carving said markings into projectiles and throwing them saves time than having to physically mark things himself during or before a battle. its akin to how kakashi figured out that the shadow clone can be used to reduce training.
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 6 жыл бұрын
Garou exactly. 100% agree. Name one thing Minato does with Flying Raijin that Tobirama can't do lol. Minato can use the barrier thing, but thats ir
@tengentoppa02
@tengentoppa02 5 жыл бұрын
Yall forget that mintao made the rasengan? And seeing how hard it's been stated to combine nature chakra and other forms is pretty groundbreaking. Had minato been given more time to be alive as hokage, he would definitely be top 3.
@LBK978
@LBK978 5 жыл бұрын
Luis Bautista 3, you're giving credit where it isn't due my dude. Naruto is the one that combined the Rasengan with a chakra nature. Minato created the Rasengan which is pure shape manipulation. Kakashi ended up with the Chidori trying to add lightning nature to the technique.
@TheTheThe_
@TheTheThe_ 5 жыл бұрын
They literally never said Minato was smarter and they even said it's more likely he isn't.
@legendhero-eu1lc
@legendhero-eu1lc 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! All of you friends are super awesome!
@xilin9464
@xilin9464 5 жыл бұрын
You see minato in world war 2 you open fire on minato ... 2 seconds later everyone dies
@EcnomicSuicide
@EcnomicSuicide 6 жыл бұрын
Tobirama wasn't really fleshed out like the 1st or 4th.
@tr3dawggg
@tr3dawggg 6 жыл бұрын
EconomicSuicideTheGreat or the 3rd, 5th, danzo, 6th and 7th, and future 8th
@EcnomicSuicide
@EcnomicSuicide 6 жыл бұрын
tr3dawggg naruto could be so much stronger than he is. Currently, all j see him as is a plot device with plot armor
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 6 жыл бұрын
EconomicSuicideTheGreat he can't have plot armor, he's dead. .....
@EcnomicSuicide
@EcnomicSuicide 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Ortiz was referring to naruto, not baruto. I also doubt naruto died.
@Cloud987600
@Cloud987600 6 жыл бұрын
Minato was comparing his own reaction speed to the knead to build chakra! So minato found it unnessesary compared to his awesome reaction speed and teleporting was always enough. Yes hes very humble a mix personality of hinata, lee, and kakashi
@Zyluki
@Zyluki 4 жыл бұрын
*when you realize combat ability isnt all about raw power*
@8Smoker8
@8Smoker8 3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@carlosa.becerra6612
@carlosa.becerra6612 4 жыл бұрын
Hey SethTP and Swag, I gotta say, you are both really good at arguments, at times I find myself wondering over particular facts on the lore and I happen to keep coming back to your videos... Thank you both for the good work and effort put into them :)
@kakashiHatake-xs1kj
@kakashiHatake-xs1kj 5 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie dat intro is kinda dope
@mrkmoney1234
@mrkmoney1234 6 жыл бұрын
Did you take into account that Team Tobirama had just returned from a mission where they were all exhausted? So 20 elite ninjas vs an exhausted Tobirama didn't seem plausible to you? Darui was fighting Edo Tensei Kin and Gun bros who are weaker than their alive selfs as well and used the weapons to seal them, he didn't win out of fighting strength. Tobirama did put Minato's Shunshin and FTG above his own, however there were moments where Tobirama showcased faster movement than Minato such as how Tobirama was able to both Obito (Juubi Jin) while also setting up his explosive tags and how he was able to create a shadow clone and get the TSB off of Minato before it exploded much faster than Minato could. Shunshin no jutsu speed is determined by the amount of chakra you use, chakra control, and your mastery over the jutsu. Naruto in KCM speed is so fast due to his large chakra reserve, Tobirama has the larger reserve but Minato has the better mastery over the jutsu as with FTG. Tobirama can still increase his speed faster by using more chakra. Tobirama had to use Minato as a medium to use FTG on those Minato shares chakra to, so he might need one of Minato's Kunai's to gain access to it. Tobirama can teleport to any location that his chakra is touching, he can flood the area with water and that will allow him to teleport anywhere or anything his water is or is touching. Tobirama is also the better sensor of the two, he can even sense what clan you're from by your chakra type.
@ark4849
@ark4849 4 жыл бұрын
underrated comment. thank you. people seem to forget that they were just back from a mission and exhausted.
@RagingSovereign
@RagingSovereign 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't he use his teleportation jutsu to teleport his unit far away or back to Konoha... Or use his Reanimated Jutsu then make his summons do the infinite explosive paper tag against the Kinkaku Unit... Or Use the Eternal Darkness Jutsu to mislead them of their direction.....
@eternalsquanch8445
@eternalsquanch8445 6 жыл бұрын
I have watched all the Naruto vs battles wish ya'll had more!!
@RedElite69
@RedElite69 3 жыл бұрын
This is mostly "Why We Think Minato is Stronger" more than Minato Namikaze vs Tobirama Senju. Tobirama said Minato's Shunshin no Jutsu was quick. That's the Body Flicker Technique, not Flying Thunder God. Yes Minato has mastered it in terms of usage and versatility, he has more Flying Thunder God techniques than Tobirama for certain. -In the war however, the difference in their experience and creativity really showed. He performed much better than KCM Minato against Juubito in terms of combat speed and reaction. Combat speed is not teleportation. Combat speed is who moves their body quicker in a fist fight, who punches quicker, who dodges faster, who notices the predictable attacks more. That is where Tobirama's edge showed and you can bet it'd show if they fought. Tobirama tagged Juubito FIVE times in the middle of getting blitzed while Minato was doing who knows what getting caught by Juubito's orbs while Tobirama teleported it with a slower clone. So being able to teleport to Minato's stuff would be a huge problem. -Minato can teleport? Okay, and what use is there in teleporting against a guy that's much more combat proficient with it? Its not like Minato is facing someone as slow as Sakura and is obscenely faster than Tobirama when a Tobirama clone was better at saving him than himself. -And if Minato doesn't teleport? What? A slugfest? Against a Senju? Tobirama Senju? Lol okay. Good luck with that against a guy that has so much battle experience, a nasty tactician, will fight dirty if he has to, and is clearly better at combat, and is a physical powerhouse with absurd chakra reserves and stamina. -Water Attacks might not be too useful against Minato since he could evade most of them. -Paper bomb techniques of Tobirama would be a problem even if you disagree. Why? Tobirama knows Minato can use Hiraishin No Jutsu and he's the deadlier tactician with more battle experience. You can bet he'd purposely have Minato teleport somewhere to get caught in some trap. -Minato being a sensory type so he'll sense things? And? So is Tobirama, much more so than Minato if you actually read back. -Chakra Reserves? I don't even need to go there. -Sage Mode? You think he wouldn't notice Minato trying to activate Sage Mode in a fight and take advantage of that given how dirty he'll fight? "Oh but Minato is being humble when he says he needs time for Sage Mode." This dude's brother is Hashirama, who can probably just blink to activate Sage Mode. "Oh but Minato has clones to use to make Sage Mode." Clones that would get cucked by Tobirama's clones, who can probably make a ton more with the kind of chakra reserves he has. With Sage Mode Minato might have a chance against his physicality. -Reanimation? How many dead people are there? LOL. Its not them fighting each other. Its Minato trying to survive and kill Tobirama quick enough, quick enough against a big brain guy that knows his abilities, has more combat prowess, and outranks him in EVERY category outside of Hirashin techniques and Shunshin No Jutsu.
@marjanlucic7247
@marjanlucic7247 3 жыл бұрын
Your opinion is better than the video. Kishi just needed something for his death and Seth/swag use this for "Tobi is weak".
@jeiaori
@jeiaori 3 жыл бұрын
Tobirama takes the win. But if Minato lived long enough (let's say the same age as Tobirama before he died) he could possibly be better. Learning more jutsu and mastering FTG even further.
@RedElite69
@RedElite69 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeiaori Head-canon
@jeiaori
@jeiaori 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedElite69 it's plausible.
@bofi1280
@bofi1280 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeiaori Tobirama died young too. I don't think he ever reached his prime, seeing that he couldn't master half the jutsus he created.
@EinManU
@EinManU 6 жыл бұрын
let the salty comments begin!!
@zera666
@zera666 6 жыл бұрын
I Bims ManU Naruto is toph level
@zera666
@zera666 6 жыл бұрын
son goku four tails pffft XD
@shafeckbrown496
@shafeckbrown496 6 жыл бұрын
kid buu arale can kick your ass so stay quiet
@bradentucker8003
@bradentucker8003 6 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest here flying thunder god is the closest thing to kamui
@kronek99
@kronek99 6 жыл бұрын
Minato can also use Tobiramas marks bro. He did it to change places with Tobirama to help Naruto and Sasuke land an attack.
@codeblueduceduce
@codeblueduceduce 6 жыл бұрын
Andres Aguiar i think tobirama was the 1 who came up with the idea. but also as long as you have good chakra control you can warp to anyones mark. think of it how goku uses instant transmission. and tobirama has superb chakra control
@kronek99
@kronek99 6 жыл бұрын
Garou what? Its the same jutsu bro that's all. No good chakra control shit is needed
@codeblueduceduce
@codeblueduceduce 6 жыл бұрын
Andres Aguiar thats my point. minato using tobiramas seals to teleport was no feat that tobirama isnt capable of. the flying thunder god technique relies mostly on chakra control and i guess reflexes
@bradentucker8003
@bradentucker8003 6 жыл бұрын
So what there saying is sage mode minato could’ve put up a could fight agains base MS madara cause tobirama killed izuna who was said to be madaras equal
@Aromatic-ring
@Aromatic-ring 6 жыл бұрын
Andres Aguiar Minato cannot use Tobirama’s marks, Tobirama planned the idea and let Minato.
@entertheeatlist6410
@entertheeatlist6410 3 жыл бұрын
Swag and seth should make a joint channel, when they on they own I always feel something is missing
@hereisjonny5710
@hereisjonny5710 3 жыл бұрын
Ginkagu and Kinkaku were created just for Darui to deafeat them. Minato would have Big ass problems killing Tobirama.
@denzel.5005
@denzel.5005 6 жыл бұрын
That intro nice
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 3 жыл бұрын
The 2nd Hokage pitch black technique looks like a technique that was designed to counter the Sharingan when he use to face the Uchihas.
@dcap1998
@dcap1998 4 жыл бұрын
That intro was 🔥
@kirbykun-ninjavoltage81
@kirbykun-ninjavoltage81 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Capici *intro
@dustinhatfield8373
@dustinhatfield8373 4 жыл бұрын
It would be so nice to see more of the first four hokage
@wilsonsmanz
@wilsonsmanz 6 жыл бұрын
I don't care man. I would put my money on Tobirama. In the same way how Swagkage can choose Madara over Kayuga because of battle experience and intelligence, I am going to choose Tobirama for those same reasons. He is clearly more experienced and clearly more intelligent at using his jutsu. When they fought Jubito it was his idea to reciprocate their flying rajin and he came up with that strategy. He was able to realize that Sage jutsu would be effective against Jubito the same time Naruto did while Minato who also uses some Sage jutsu didn't even notice that. Its one thing to know jutsu but being able to utilize it effectively and create strategies on the fly to defeat your opponent is extremely valuable and Tobirama outclasses Minato in that category.
@dulleyes4406
@dulleyes4406 6 жыл бұрын
W
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 6 жыл бұрын
wilsonsmanz Oh yeah, and on another note, Swag said that Minato can use Multi Shadow Clone jutsu, but uh no he cant lol. He's never even shown the ability to use shadow clones to my knowledge lol. Actually, I would say that Tobirama with a few shadow clones beats someone with a thousand shadow clones, because shadow clones divide your chakra and the fewer the clones the stronger each clone is.
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 6 жыл бұрын
Cameron Mueller Kishimoto himself said that it was a mistake to give Naruto that many Clones at the beginning. Let's take note that Naruto's shadow clone numbers got significantly smaller after the 1st episode. When you create a Shadow Clone, you give a shadow clone a portion of your chakra. Once the clone disappears, the chakra is transfered back to the user. This is why Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu is a Kinjutsu. A person with even normal chakra reserves would easily kill themselves if they weren't careful with the technique. Also, thank you for pointing that out to me. Me saying that Minato cant use shadow clones wasn't really meant to be taken at face value, only that it was meant to point out that Minato has never used Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu, let alone clones. However, I now know that he has used Shadow Clones. Thanks.
@TienNguyen-ky4dx
@TienNguyen-ky4dx 6 жыл бұрын
everyfucking genin in Naruto know the shadow clone jutsu. It's like elementary lesson lol. We are talking about multi-shadow clone here.
@wilsonsmanz
@wilsonsmanz 6 жыл бұрын
Actually no, its the clone jutsu. The shadow clone jutsu is a forbidden one, if its forbidden why would they teach it to academy students. So no, the one they had to do in the academy to graduate was the Clone jutsu.
@treseanpatterson
@treseanpatterson 6 жыл бұрын
Can u do naruto vs sasuke all forms
@7thhokagesoru390
@7thhokagesoru390 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about borutos grandfather vs hashiramas brother
@craigford33
@craigford33 4 жыл бұрын
Your intro is fire 🔥
@randomdudewalkingdownthest8158
@randomdudewalkingdownthest8158 6 жыл бұрын
Plz someone explain me that how would minato stab raikage through his lightning armor. To this i can't figure out why bee pushed ay out of they way.
@ii_am_riq1130
@ii_am_riq1130 6 жыл бұрын
RandomDudeWalkingDownTheStreet Minato also haso lightning realease when saskue used chirdori against the 4th Raikage he manage to touch him
@JSBreezy918
@JSBreezy918 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like Base to Base Tobirama would win
@ky5059
@ky5059 6 жыл бұрын
JeyRey Tobirama died facing 20 S rank shinobi’s Aka Akatsuki level shinobi’s
@swampertexpert3756
@swampertexpert3756 6 жыл бұрын
Siilent I agree with because even though I like minato more you do have a point but if he can't use sage mode tobirama has an edge but he can also lightning style
@barbarrox
@barbarrox 6 жыл бұрын
Sensei Ky Lol no, the Kinkau force was just 20 yonins, in wich kinkaku ws the strongest, who is even completly fodder and not even kage lvl lol EDIT: its stated that Minato took out over 50 jonins in seconds without any dmg...
@ky5059
@ky5059 6 жыл бұрын
Barbarrox Both of the brothers combined are Kage level, do Your research.
@barbarrox
@barbarrox 6 жыл бұрын
Dude any kage is jonin. And yeah they are both kage lvl. But kage lvl is a wide range. For example Minato who is by FAr not teh strongest or also not the seconds strongest hokage can easily fuck up the 5 current kages. Kage lvl doesnt mean op
@elguty4045
@elguty4045 3 жыл бұрын
"you guys run I am going to kill them all" lmao minato was a beast.
@wxlfgang9950
@wxlfgang9950 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I dont care who wins but I'd love to see this damn fight either way its gonna be a good one
@DragonoidBerserker1
@DragonoidBerserker1 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Bruce Lee, have you 2 ever heard of a channel called Beerdy? He emphasizes the impact and skill that BL had
@thesourpatchkidd579
@thesourpatchkidd579 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll also say that Senju genes don’t seem to count for much when you’re an actual Senju who isn’t Hasirama 🤷🏿‍♂️ look at the massive power ups everyone who got Hasirama cells have and then look at all the other Senju. Tobirama and Tsunade are clearly way weaker than Hasirama.
@chago7995
@chago7995 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that Hashirama was an Ashura's reincarnate hence the power
@eh1048
@eh1048 4 жыл бұрын
Hashirama was an Ashura reincarnation 🤦‍♂️ Tobirama was wiping the floor with every Uchiha including Izuna, Senjus are the strongest ever clan their genes mean everything
@shalltearbloodfallen7226
@shalltearbloodfallen7226 4 жыл бұрын
Izuna was presumably going blind, nor did he ‘wipe the floor’ with the Uchiha- who weren’t all in the possession of the Sharingan btw. They ranged from fodder to people with the potential like Sasuke, Itachi, etc. They also weren’t the strongest clan, I’m pretty sure that title went to the Hyuga.
@eh1048
@eh1048 4 жыл бұрын
Ninja Nyan Cats He’s been fighting wars with the Uchihas since he was a kid, him and Hashirama legit had the Uchihas on their knees twice and he invented S rank Jutsus like the flying raijin to counter the Sharingan.... Hyūga are the strongest clan ??? What are you smoking ? Hyūga only took the strongest clan title after the Senjus, Uzumakis and Uchihas went extinct
@culkihd6872
@culkihd6872 5 жыл бұрын
These are 2 of my favourite characters but I'll give it to minato (Tobirama wasn't developed much and was a victim of bad writing and plot holes)
@gonzalez76683
@gonzalez76683 5 жыл бұрын
Another thing is that when the 3rd Hokage fought Orochimaru in Naruto he was more terrified of the 4th Hokage being reanimated and not the first 2.
@matthewjgilles7282
@matthewjgilles7282 4 жыл бұрын
Luis Gonzalez true but it also could be because he would have to fight 3 ninjas
@shalltearbloodfallen7226
@shalltearbloodfallen7226 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. But if that was the case, why not stop Tobirama’s casket and not Minato’s, y’know? Maybe Sarutobi just wasn’t quick enough, so I guess that’s up in the air
@derpyderp1144
@derpyderp1144 4 жыл бұрын
@@shalltearbloodfallen7226 nah minato is much better than tobirama so he knew tha tag it would be a problem
@cristicristi5409
@cristicristi5409 4 жыл бұрын
so that means that minato stomps hashirama ?
@kick3608
@kick3608 6 жыл бұрын
tobirama stated at the 4th war that minato was better then him at using flying thunder god, add to that sage mode and bijuu bombs... GG
@kick3608
@kick3608 6 жыл бұрын
and full control kurama
@sunwukong3074
@sunwukong3074 6 жыл бұрын
Literally genjutsus the field and distract minato, teleport to minatos kunais and tag them with infinite exploding paper bombs, reanimate some ninjas to distract minato even more, literally flood the entire field and beat minatos ass under water. Sage mode of course is a diff5 story
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 6 жыл бұрын
Traveling Bum doesn't Minato have part of the 9 tails in him. ... not so sure genjutsu will go well
@FireFistAce.
@FireFistAce. 6 жыл бұрын
minato says his sage mode is weak and dosnt use it for combat
@hispaniccausingpanic8211
@hispaniccausingpanic8211 6 жыл бұрын
Farouk DzGod minato says he has no control on sage mode,also the 2nd has edo tensei,and minato does not have byju bomb,plus we dont have much too go by from the manga and anime for the second,of course minato has more achievements cause he is a main character,the second is the one that has barely any story telling out of all kages
@chrisdamien7190
@chrisdamien7190 3 жыл бұрын
tobirama is alpha af
@konodioda4370
@konodioda4370 4 жыл бұрын
Also remember Minato managed to easily defeat a team of cloud ninja (probably chunin - jonin level) when he was only 10.
@meetthemoo225
@meetthemoo225 4 жыл бұрын
Kono Dio Da remember as a teen tobirama 1 shotted mangekyo Izuna who trained with Madara everyday
@guccicowtitties
@guccicowtitties 4 жыл бұрын
@@meetthemoo225 izuna didn't use the mangekeyo when he fought tobirama
@meetthemoo225
@meetthemoo225 4 жыл бұрын
@@guccicowtitties he just wasn't shown using it . That's happened to multiple characters, itachi, obito, etc. In flashbacks madara wasn't seen using mangekyo until his last fight against hashirama before they made the hidden leaf. Danzo used shisuis mangekyo to manipulate the other kage at the 5 kage summit, you gonna believe that he didn't use the ms to do it because it wasn't animated?
@slymint
@slymint 4 жыл бұрын
@@meetthemoo225 And even though it wasn't animated you're gonna assume that he did use it?
@meetthemoo225
@meetthemoo225 4 жыл бұрын
@@slymintyea because it was STATED by multiple people in both manga that he was using it to manipulate everyone at the summit. Don't be slow bro lmao read the whole convo
@kevinsono
@kevinsono 6 жыл бұрын
Can you and swagkage do a video on Orochimaru vs six paths of pain
@soulking6801
@soulking6801 6 жыл бұрын
last time i was this early power levels in dragon wasn't bullshit
@justinherman2418
@justinherman2418 6 жыл бұрын
Which hokage is the strongest? Boruto's village's first hokage, the guy who created the jutsu that Boruto's grandpa used, Boruto's sensei's grandpa, Boruto's grandpa, some old lady, or Boruto's dad's sensei?
@justinherman2418
@justinherman2418 6 жыл бұрын
Or Boruto's dad
@number7576
@number7576 6 жыл бұрын
the one for hashirama wasn't that good of a connection
@kassasana1149
@kassasana1149 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Herman borutos dad
@bradentucker8003
@bradentucker8003 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine hashirama with six path sage mode
@EggMixValid
@EggMixValid 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Herman btw boruto's sensei is Saskue so who is Saskue's grandpa
@curtisthompson8687
@curtisthompson8687 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the Tobirama death make people think he weaker than he is he really killed him off in a stupid ass way now people think kisame can beat him for some reason . I think Kisame was made to fight people like bee and naruto he basically use bre Chakra to heal his self without that his ass would’ve died 😒
@marjanlucic7247
@marjanlucic7247 3 жыл бұрын
Tobi would destroy Kisame just like Bei would do it, too. Bee was just hiding from A while they fought and he was protecting Tupac geezer.
@sethboling221
@sethboling221 6 жыл бұрын
Yoooo my name is Seth toooooo thats dopeeee
@dustydan1268
@dustydan1268 6 жыл бұрын
My money is on Aang.
@goldtyphlosion7537
@goldtyphlosion7537 6 жыл бұрын
Dusty Dan lol dude these guys are barely toph level
@srnova9486
@srnova9486 6 жыл бұрын
Aang is not even a Moon Level 😀
@hatred930
@hatred930 6 жыл бұрын
Sava Roksic my bets on utsuho reiuji who's low planetary
@christiancsq
@christiancsq 6 жыл бұрын
When you remember Might Gai came the closest to defeating Madara
@triplexxx2174
@triplexxx2174 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't black zetsu was
@xAmiin
@xAmiin 3 жыл бұрын
And close to killing him, Might Guy is a true beast indeed.
@zayy9912
@zayy9912 5 жыл бұрын
Someone in your comments said itachi never met mask obito 💀
@rustom6147
@rustom6147 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit might be nine year old boruto fan who just saw a glimpse of Naruto ig. That's the problem with current fandom filled with newbies spreading rubbish bullshit.
@soulfulb3114
@soulfulb3114 5 жыл бұрын
I wish that we got to see hiruzens young days he probably op af
@kenshen9529
@kenshen9529 5 жыл бұрын
“Hold up, you all run ima kill all of them real quick” I love that 😂
@hittheassassin2053
@hittheassassin2053 6 жыл бұрын
They say ppl were told to run on sight in the war wich meant people jonin and down where told to run who basically are foughter but then they say tobirama dieing to 20 s class ninja who were all listed in the bingo book because to be s class you have to be listed so a older tobirama vs 20 Akatski members and kinkiku and genkiku who were in prime and not reanimated at full power vs a old tobirama who was probably in his late 40s or early 50s and some of the s rank ninjas where probably as strong as itachi but we don't know for sure but some how regular ninja being told to run on sight when they see a hokage level ninja is more impressive and might I add that tobirama actually won it is stated that that is how they died and tobirama died from exhaustion and not from damage stustained in the battle
@gokijin
@gokijin 4 жыл бұрын
This video would be a little different and an actual battle with your new Tobirama is underrated video and Kikaku and Ginkaku having the 9 tails' 4 tails form.
@Ysmnfgj
@Ysmnfgj 4 жыл бұрын
gokijin true
@Nic0724
@Nic0724 3 жыл бұрын
i like swags bruce lee anology it’s very underrated
@ygsabo4903
@ygsabo4903 4 жыл бұрын
Let's be clear about this: Minato surpassed Tobirama and would beat him in a serious fight. NONTHELESSE, we have to appreciate and respect Tobirama for who he is and what he did. He's the one who paved the way for Naruto, Minato, Hiruzen, Orochimaru, Kabuto and the whole Konoha Village.
@hexit7777
@hexit7777 4 жыл бұрын
incorrect, minato never surpassed tobirama as a ninja, or a warrior. tobirama is smarter and stronger than minato, so not even flying raijin can save him from that.
@jaywells5857
@jaywells5857 4 жыл бұрын
HexIT tobirama is not stronger than minato simple as that lmao the only argument you can make is tobirama may be physically stronger than minato
@hexit7777
@hexit7777 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Wells he is physically and mentally stronger than minato, smarter than minato, and is a better ninja than minato.. he stomps minato easy.
@jaywells5857
@jaywells5857 4 жыл бұрын
HexIT get off tobiramas tip lmao he’s NOT STRONGER THAN MINATO 😂 smarter idk because minato is a straight up genius who is still one of the smartest characters in the series but you could also make that case for tobirama and regarding speed lol I know a lot of tobirama fanboys say he is faster than minato but he’s not 😂 and just overall strength could go either way but I’m just gonna have to respectfully disagree with u
@hexit7777
@hexit7777 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Wells i respectfully disagree as well, he IS STRONGER THAN MINATO, And smarter in terms of battle IQ and i could even argue general IQ. Minato is reliant on the flying raijin for the “speed” you minato dickriders claim he has.. do not forget tobirama can also use the flying raijin, and his chakra reserve exceeds that of minatos.. minato has no kill moves for someone of tobiramas scale, and saying he can even try to beat him is fodder.
@siah8955
@siah8955 5 жыл бұрын
I really think people didn’t listen to what was being said🤦🏾‍♂️
@andrewmatseshe7343
@andrewmatseshe7343 6 жыл бұрын
Apriori, I'm very curious to watch your analysis.
@carlg4544
@carlg4544 5 жыл бұрын
Tobirama: (erupts) "I have shit-tons of echelons of chakra!!!" Hasimara: (explodes with same force albeit less effort) "Put your finger down!!" Tobirama: "Hmmm...." (puts finger down) Me for the 1st time: "Holy shit! Rewind!!!!"
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