"Mind The Gap" by Ryan Florence at Big Sky Dev Con 2024

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Ай бұрын

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@JLarky Ай бұрын

Elixir mentioned

@igrb Ай бұрын

I'm so deep in the react world and yet I haven't seen someone explain this stuff so well, amazing talk from Ryan as always

@DevinRhode2 Ай бұрын

Jank mentioned

@LutherDePapier Ай бұрын

I'm just amazed at how server components, client components and server actions are blowing people's minds but, for me, it's just how I learned to code. 😅

@coreyspeisman3941 Ай бұрын

Hands down, my favorite Ryan Florence talk

@JeremyAndersonBoise Ай бұрын

I was a mootools advocate back when he was involved in it. Respect to that shirt.

@hamm8934 Ай бұрын

From what i understand of pheonix, pheonix effectively dissolves the network as well with its use of web sockets

@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 Ай бұрын

so does livewire.. i dont know.. what makes what he shows so brilliant... you still have the build step and the complexities.

@hamm8934 Ай бұрын

@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 kinda my thoughts as well. Just seems like a different syntax with a different language to do the same pattern

@ivan.jeremic Ай бұрын

@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384there is no modern future without a build step, learn to live with it, even c/cpp & java have one and nobody complains. The thing is no one forces you to use build steps, it is not a law or something you can stay in your build free stack.

@justindouglas3659 Ай бұрын

@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 i don't have great react knowledge to fully grasp what happened here but don't the other frameworks also do this in a similar way. I think laravel with livewire does this too what he showed but i might be wrong.

@marcellerusu 18 күн бұрын

@@hamm8934 its not really the same you have to make the trade off: do you want to handle the majority of the events on the client, or the server? There are benefits to both, & often both will work fine, but they are not the same & certain cases it just won't work. Eg. If you are doing frame-by-frame updates on mouse movement, I don't want to handle all those events on the server.

@mdrahiem_dev Ай бұрын

Ryan is so freaking brilliant at educating (as always). I clapped in front of my laptop once the talk ended.

@jeremyschoffen413 Ай бұрын

electric clojure would be something to look at also.

@xHomu Ай бұрын

Ryan made this talk just to write the remodeling bill as a business expense.

@rampandey191 Ай бұрын

brilliant talk thanks.

@kabukitheater9046 Ай бұрын

mootools mentioned lets gooo

@MarioPalomera Ай бұрын

Yeah good luck reimplementing a new backend framework on top of a frontend library and demoing with a local file as the db…

@JeremyAndersonBoise Ай бұрын

Wow, brothers and sisters, this is a fantastic talk!

@eptic-c Ай бұрын

This talk was amazing

@vitormarkis3356 Ай бұрын

i love ryan

@RyanFlorence Ай бұрын

love you too

@JakeDuthDev Ай бұрын

On tradeoffs - what immediately jumps out is this looks painful to debug and teach. Very cool demo nonetheless

@DevinRhode2 Ай бұрын

Htmx will become a RSC framework

@tedreams Ай бұрын

The moral of this is “React is good”😂

@sadkebab Ай бұрын

yet people keep complaining about over-engineering

@TheFreshMakerHD Ай бұрын

yeah this is neat functionality, but why start the talk talking about trade-offs if you aren't gonna talk about trade-offs? You can't just say "your way of doing web dev is bad" and present React as a silver bullet without mentioning the trade-offs that you promised at the start.