Their designs are fire if they could just implement using better metals and heat treats theyd probably be making some legit cool stuff
@yaimbenjo Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@rshveyda4 ай бұрын
Yup, they use recycled mild steel and give it a poor or no heat treatment. Then their knives are sold to the ignorant, often at jacked up prices by unscrupulous retailers, who often claim to be the makers. If they did use better, more appropriate knife steels and do decent heat treatments, their knives would be worth buying. Otherwise their craftsmanship is going to waste.
@muhammedk4704 ай бұрын
Even with much of their existing metal, they can still create a decent edge with better heat treatment, and doing basic tests of the steels hardness before hand.
@rshveyda4 ай бұрын
@@muhammedk470 Why go to all the trouble of making a good knife with a decent heat treatment? They crank their knife-like objects out as quickly and cheaply as possible, and rely on sales to the ignorant who buy into the myth of "the lost art of Damascus" and the steel having some magical qualities. I've actually seen guys who imports batches of these knives trying to talk customers at gun shows into buying them with the lie that they have a friend who traveled to the middle east and learned the secret, lost method to make "real damascus" steel and he makes them in is home shop. Buyer beware and be suspicious of anything coming out of Pakistan. I have a friend who's wife fell for it and bought a beautiful damascus cleaver for him as a present. He loved the think and came to me later asking if I would put a good edge on it. I did the best I could and tried not to be too harsh when told him the reality of what the cleaver was. I think he hung it in his kitchen and told his wife it was too beautiful to use.
@madfrosty52282 жыл бұрын
Guys just a tip , don’t overheat the steel , especially when grinding , slow down a little bit . I understand that time is money but overheated steel loses carbon !
@cbrown95552 жыл бұрын
Bahaha, yeah they need your advice
@mihaicrisis78992 жыл бұрын
@@cbrown9555 you never know - well, at least you don't seem to know lol.
@mihaicrisis78992 жыл бұрын
@@cbrown9555 if you had read other comments you might've known that other knife makers agree, and they're professionals unlike you.
@cbrown95552 жыл бұрын
@@mihaicrisis7899 you little crybaby
@coffeeman19052 жыл бұрын
I am also wondering why they over heat the metal when grinding. Can it be restored by quenching?
@alanashley60972 жыл бұрын
I bought a few of these "Damascus Steel" knives on eBay. The steel used was crappy, heat treat was poor and they wouldn't hold an edge. Seeing how they make them explains it.
@elquedeliraBMX2 жыл бұрын
when they are shaping the edge the steel got burned.... but the firsrt thing I saw was that when they are making the laminated billet it was overheated... sorry for my english, I´m an argentinian knifemaker hahah
@elquedeliraBMX2 жыл бұрын
when they are shaping the edge the steel got burned.... but the firsrt thing I saw was that when they are making the laminated billet it was overheated... sorry for my english, I´m an argentinian knifemaker hahah
@juancarlosRou2 жыл бұрын
@@elquedeliraBMX De acuerdo. Mucho tiempo Saludos desde Uruguay de un cuchillero aficionado!
@juancarlosRou2 жыл бұрын
Mucho tiempo sobrecalentado
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
@@elquedeliraBMX I am not a knife maker, but having watched a couple smiths and have them explain their work to me, my first thought was "that´s an unhealthy yellow glow, and the stuff looks way to gooey".
@tonyninivaggi2785 Жыл бұрын
Im 67 years old and have never seen anyone work so hard in my life. This video shows a room full of craftman that work there butts off and love what they do. I sell knives at a flea market in the USA and would love to have your knives in my shop.
@richfranks91612 жыл бұрын
I once bought a damascus knife from a shop just like this. The Damascus peeled like an onion 🧅 and I could NEVER get a edge on it.
@VenturiLife Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it wasn't forge-welded properly.
@jeanladoire41416 ай бұрын
@@VenturiLifeno shit the guy folded and folded again with no flux, and didnt let time for the grains to grow back. The fact that they had a weld to begin with is impressive. if they used sand, just clean common silica sand, they would have MUCH better welds, and they should also maybe give a second welding pass on their last weld
@TrakWorkENT8132 жыл бұрын
Every time I pull up a KZfaq video and see a dude in sandals, I justExpect to see something amazing about to happen
@ilvedalan54042 жыл бұрын
shit magic
@sm-qe3ci2 жыл бұрын
💯
@cobblerama2 жыл бұрын
I have bought many beautiful damascus knives off ebay from these Pakistani makers. So glad to finally see a video about it.
@supertedogpriken2 жыл бұрын
How does the steel hold up? is it any good? and will it take, and hold a edge good?
@cobblerama2 жыл бұрын
@@supertedogpriken Yes they take an edge and work well. They are very stout, 3 - 5mm thick. Honestly I bought them primarily for display as they are VERY ornate. The damascus isn't Japanese or even Chinese quality but it's decent and very affordable. Some are full tang while others are partial or rat tail. Many are offered in stainless if you want a more practical, low maintenance blade.
@korakatar79212 жыл бұрын
No flux used? Blades will be unreliable 😁. Really surprised at all the people being impressed by these blades😊
@archangel200312 жыл бұрын
No flux means you simply did not see it applied to the metal. I doubt they would have ever gotten to the finished product without it.
@korakatar79212 жыл бұрын
@@archangel20031 it seems an un edited forge to anvil / powerhammer video.
@korakatar79212 жыл бұрын
@Paul Holmes actually he folds the red hot billet and sandwiches another billet and then forges it without adding any flux as i said.
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
they are dipping the thing into borax once. .....once...
@MatterIsNotSolid2 жыл бұрын
Well the one good thing is they are spending their time here rather than calling you to trying and hack your computer....
@Emsyaz2 жыл бұрын
Those scammers who called you and tried to hack your computer are from India. India is a majority Hindu country. The hard working guys in this video are Pakistanis. Pakistan is a majority Muslim country.
@MatterIsNotSolid2 жыл бұрын
@@Emsyaz ok...hard working or not they are still producing crap.
@Emsyaz2 жыл бұрын
@@MatterIsNotSolid its not crap because people around the world are buying 🤣
@whatdudeokman64812 жыл бұрын
I feel like the same time could be put into actually making quality blades, and they would make more money.
@steamboatmcg2197 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I figured this whole "damascus" thing would have run it's course by now. Seems like they could probably aquire some old leaf springs and make some decent, basic carbon steel knives. However, I don't think there would be the same success with the head shops where they sell this junk to stoners.
@user-ro1bn4px4g2 жыл бұрын
Я думаю, что эти люди умеют делать настоящие ножи, а то, что нам показали в этом "ролике" это недорогое производство ... Сувениры. Однако, работа в таком примитивном "горячем" цехе очень нелёгкая...требует знаний и физических усилий. Поэтому хвала этим мастерам!
@SkelemystykGamer2 жыл бұрын
LMAO. I love how all the non-smiths are in awe of whats happening here, and all of the actual smiths, the ones who have (not even power hammer) put hammer to anvil, and made a blade from fire and sweat, are saying things like WTF, OMG, and WHYYYY?!?
@ilvedalan54042 жыл бұрын
hah, true
@megaraitei2 жыл бұрын
I saw him put a cold metal bar between the hot iron, Why was that? It was towards the start
@trilokyamohanchakra63512 жыл бұрын
@@megaraitei they probably do it coz they are too lazy to weld two kinds of steel during the first welding
@megaraitei2 жыл бұрын
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351 but what's the function of that insert? By the way it was positioned it most probably won't form the cutting edge.
@trilokyamohanchakra63512 жыл бұрын
@@megaraitei you've seen at the end there's a pattern right you can see two colours of metal right? One of them is that plate, plus it's a completely different way of doing things if they're planning for an hard edge, this is just for the Damascus look and not for the high carbon hard stell purpose
@hotrod41262 жыл бұрын
DECORATION ONLY. Don’t try to rely on these as a survival or bug out must have. Poor quality, I was curious and bought a couple different styles. They don’t hold and edge. Just trying to shave sticks for marshmallows over a fire was kind of pathetic after a couple sticks. I tried different geometry for the sharpness. There are videos of smiths in America trying to figure out the steel. Very strange mix of materials. They don’t heat treat well at all.
@shmoobedc40382 жыл бұрын
You got some shit ones then haha
@Sariyal..2 жыл бұрын
On a lighter note.. If someone willing to rob you in a cold quite street.. even if you know the robber have only this very knife..my advice don't resist..get idea 💡
@hotrod41262 жыл бұрын
I forge my own, and a full size .45 has done me very well.
@Sariyal..2 жыл бұрын
Jerry the great keypad warrior had the same attitude before going out.. next month it'll be his 2nd anniversary..👏
@MikeBaxterABC2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree a nice decorative collectors item ... and I don't know where to buy them? .. But I wager they are not very expensive! :) AND ... if displayed near the front door" ,, as VERY useful home defense tool, for areas where firearms are not allowed! Big knife can scare away intruders with no knives :)
@user-vv8iw6zb1f2 жыл бұрын
Ммммммм, даааа. Если человека радует результаты его труда, значит у человека всё в порядке в жизни. Молодцы ребята, всего вам наилучшего в жизни.
@jsmcinnes2 жыл бұрын
Coming to a Texico near you!
@vforvendetta61932 жыл бұрын
Oke, nice stuff. Safety is different there... but i still like what they are doing
@masgiver2 жыл бұрын
11:50 the best of the best part in this video 😍
@creativework2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your appreciation Giver
@Bushmen9182 жыл бұрын
@@creativeworkWe are not all haters. I admire people who do what they can with what they have. Keep working and learning.
@colinremmer24172 жыл бұрын
Hell, watching him using that cutting blade so casually to remove the excess steel gave me the creeps. If he'd have slipped, he'd be picking his nose with his elbow for the rest of his life
@lisaaa04112 жыл бұрын
same
@electricalife2 жыл бұрын
How do you think he got the job. Ever notice in all these videos there's always a few guys who look like their waiting for a turn.
@Voltara2 жыл бұрын
I checked, they all had 10 fingers.
@quentinburns82982 жыл бұрын
kinda adds a new twist to "stock removal"
@bobdoodle65272 жыл бұрын
I do not know anything about smithing, do no have equipment to make knives, I will buy them and to hell with it does not hold an edge, just bring sharpeners, period. And also help them make a living and if they r injured, that’s life.
@faz..2 жыл бұрын
If only they put all that effort into making a quality product.
@MikeBaxterABC2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the team whos employment is to make the knives .. I think they are mainly meant for display or collection. One point that is nice .. the "Damascus style" finish is achieved by actually folding different steels together and honestly forging it, ... not painted on like many replicas.
@R3bellionRising2 жыл бұрын
youre right as they added extra layer of metal and didnt care if it can create shitty blade
@beanyboom182 жыл бұрын
Guessing the plate of 'steel' he put in the billet in the beginning was the hard metal, to make the edge. He then folds it into 3, and twist it before flattening it. That edge is gonna be all over the blade, just not where it should be. lol
@gregorteply90342 жыл бұрын
It is called damassscusss
@N3m3sls2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorteply9034 lol you still need a strong center for a good working edge in a Damascus blade lol what they are making is cheap "look at my cool lines bruh"
@gregorteply90342 жыл бұрын
@@N3m3sls I could not agree more. lolbruhwtfomglfmao
@adrianenciso92772 жыл бұрын
@@N3m3sls This isn’t true in all cases, that would technically be a San-mai or core damascus blade. One of the simplest damascus’s you can forge is 1084 and 15n20, which are both hardenable steels suitable for knifemaking.
@jerod56362 жыл бұрын
@@N3m3sls that’s not true at all dude. There’s plenty of stupid shit to criticize in here but that’s not one of them. What you’re describing is San mai, which is basically a metal taco that gets forge welded. It’s a different process from what you’re seeing here and it’s a pain in the balls to do without kerosene and a press.
@seenundercygnus68702 жыл бұрын
Also it's almost 0100 here, where I live and this video has convinced me to go out to my workshop and get to sharpening my favorite chisels.
@creativework2 жыл бұрын
Under's Great. And thanks for your efforts
@cooperwardell85582 жыл бұрын
“How to make a bad knife”. Damn they are doing everything wrong. Trying really hard but just destroying the hardness of the steel.
@ilvedalan54042 жыл бұрын
haha.TRUE!
@redlionforge91732 жыл бұрын
Yep! All of that potential wasted because they don’t have any pride in their product.
@stgleb2 жыл бұрын
You true, comrad!
@Mrbigp592 жыл бұрын
Hard working people but OMG on the safety
@HomeSkillit2 жыл бұрын
Those are safety toe sandals lol😂
@kunalhazra1182 жыл бұрын
Just like the us special forces say, your safty is in your fingers.....
@finallyholdingontoletitgo16072 жыл бұрын
@@kunalhazra118 it’s amazing they still have fingers, and eyes! 😂😂😂
@rolandastitanium14602 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you a secret - humans are sentient beings...
@Adam-1182 жыл бұрын
Safety is a mind set. It's only America that charges you with fines for working free toed and happy, because we sue each other like animals for little to no reason lmao
@vidarsigrun2 жыл бұрын
On a positive note, they're quick. I can see why there is soft edges and delaminations in these knives though.
@BushCampingTools2 жыл бұрын
Why do you say that? We did not see how they heat treated the one they followed the making of?
@jwilsonhandmadeknives27602 жыл бұрын
@@BushCampingTools because they are setting themselves up for cold shuts. the damage is done at the forge welding process long before heat treat.
@BushCampingTools2 жыл бұрын
@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 There is no doubt lots of C RAP coming out of this country but I don't take too much on board from an edited video. I could only judge this properly if I was at the forge all day. (I've been privileged to be at SEKI for special demos and many other forges where one can see and learn what steps are indeed important and how it is conducted the right way. For sure you know this yourself. Ot was obvious that the metal looked a bit like lava for sure, no arguments there. I'll check your stuff if u have a site yes?
@brenturquhart70902 жыл бұрын
Love to see all the safety PPE used in this factory. $5 sunglasses, and hard toe sandals. Face masks, who needs face masks at a grinder.
@KWCMNY2 жыл бұрын
Those people are mentally still in XIX
@IYKYK972 жыл бұрын
Gotta work with what you got, everybody doesn't have amazon to home deliveries & home depot's around every corner
@brenturquhart70902 жыл бұрын
@@IYKYK97 there’s no excuse for inadequate PPE. Peoples lives are need to be worth more than the $2.00 safety goggles would cost, or the $0.11 a disposable face mask would cost. The government needs to say PPE is a must, and overnight someone close by will offer it for sale. It has to start with the government first
@IYKYK972 жыл бұрын
@@brenturquhart7090 In America... these ppl are in a 3rd world nation, stop sounding like an average privileged American 😒
@wonderingwolf84282 жыл бұрын
Yeah , wish seeing you do good knives with such primitive way .How do you think swords ⚔️ , knives , arrows were done hundreds years ago , and still being seen in museum s !!
@peteraugust52952 жыл бұрын
Its striking how basoluty basic manufacturing technology that every kid knew 50 years back suddenly became "mindblowing". Our society is doomed to fail.
@jeanladoire41416 ай бұрын
Things that disappeared from modern lives always looks like history or some shit
@CombatParatodos6 ай бұрын
Blud thinks every kid back then knew how to forge blades get a grip of reality and out of the cesspit that you think out of everyday
@peteraugust52956 ай бұрын
@@CombatParatodos I know that the own inability if frightening to many people. The god thing is that it is in your hand. Learn how to crate things and turn the inability into ability. Your life will be much better then :)
@TacticalNorwegian2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful wall hangers... But unfortunately thats all they are with the way the steel is being treated..
@whiskeyrichards99732 жыл бұрын
Right? You can tell these are the kind of blades sold at those street side markets and traveling vendors for a dime a dozen. The steel has been scorched and reheated multiple times with proper tempering and I'd wager the second you struck the spine of one of these blades to s flint, one would likely shatter like glass.
@moedogger212 жыл бұрын
These are the junk Damascus knives you see on Amazon, wish and ebay
@bushman-21552 жыл бұрын
Heard that, I never order from these dim-wits
@Emsyaz2 жыл бұрын
@@bushman-2155 they managed to sell to hundreds of thousands of numbskulls in US and Europe.
@marytom72132 жыл бұрын
Shut the f up enjoy the craftsmanship
@will03ize2 жыл бұрын
Not junk just because they are cheap. You can buy much more expensive name brand stainless sht that is no where near the quality of that knife.
@thegoldenchild46572 жыл бұрын
@@will03ize yeah they are junk. It's fake Damascus. Just because you can find more expensive ones, that you feel are worse quality, doesn't change the fact that this is a crap knife.
As a knife maker I can honestly say there are so many things in this video that justifies a $45 crapmascus amazon knife.
@KC08RAS2 жыл бұрын
Pls do tell and share the knowledge
@DadNBoyhead2 жыл бұрын
@@KC08RAS the first thing that shows poor quality is what has been mentioned, the bar of steel that was inserted likely was high carbon but stance it was inserted cold the likely hood of there being cold shuts is very high. (It’s not a practiced method among reputable bladesmiths) then twisting the bar after it was laminated kills any hope of a durable cutting edge. They also didn’t show tempering which is probably because they know there is no point. Lastly, the finish grinding kept getting way to hot judging by the amount of steam after they were pulling it out of the water. The cutting edge is thin and can reach over 450*f in 2-3 seconds on that kind of grinder.
@UmerMehar2 жыл бұрын
@@KC08RAS Unfortunately, many people don’t do proper heat treatment or fail to show to viewers, in either case they are defaming real artisans. Assuming the bar he put in between for forging is high carbon steel, he must do 0. NORMALIZING 1. ANNEALING (heating and gradually letting the bar cool in furnace). 2. HARDENING (considering 1095, heat to aus temp 800 degree C) 3. QUENCHING rapidly in water/oil 4. TEMPERING (to decrease hardness to get rid of brittleness). PS: I’m from Wazirabad, the town where these guys are making knives. I have no intention to discourage them and may be I’ve wrong perceptions about them. I’m also happy to be corrected by someone experienced. :) Edit: @0:40 heard them talking about a new order for tempering, makes me think they follow HT steps, problem is no explanations from the person who’s recording or maker but I won’t blame.
@KC08RAS2 жыл бұрын
@@DadNBoyhead thx for taking ur time out and explaining
@KC08RAS2 жыл бұрын
@@UmerMehar thx for taking ur time out and explaining
@chrisbrackett97792 жыл бұрын
Excellent workmanship
@gostghost70432 жыл бұрын
Необычные режики - красиво. Молодцы!!!
@ilvedalan54042 жыл бұрын
ты не в теме, да?
@Adam-1182 жыл бұрын
Damn good inspiration for the soul. I clicked d this because I've own the knife set that comes in a set of two, one of those knives and a boot knife. Those two knives are still getting use, I had no idea it was made this well. Now that I've seen how my knives were made literally by hand, I'm learning all I can. Thank you so much
@ducatidapaw55222 жыл бұрын
Great... Love from India... God bless you... Use it for good purpose only...
@boelensds2 жыл бұрын
amazing how they save on workbenches
@Atlaspower782 жыл бұрын
It's just like all the other video smithies but with people squatting in sandals, no flux powder, no safety measures and the welder looked like he was preparing a kebab
@user-zj6gh1ku9j2 жыл бұрын
Мне понравилось, что коллективно создали нож! Мужикам респект!
@gennadyreshetnikov59482 жыл бұрын
Херню они коллективно создали, херню. Которую потом на алике будут втюхивать под видом крутого дамаска. Я бы даже на полку такое не поставил.
@danielgwynionyddjuniordavi4672 жыл бұрын
Its plain to see they spend a lot of their time,on health and safety. Great video.
@KM-vc2yp2 жыл бұрын
It’s the first time seeing someone actually having some sort of PPE
@sammytrees69702 жыл бұрын
Thats how cheap shit on this market is made ... I would be interested what kind of metal material is used and steel .. 🤦🏻♂️😂
@ilvedalan54042 жыл бұрын
shitium
@lM-zr5vu2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of staff in that one shop, inshallah you guys go from strength to strength, lots to improve on, starting with worker safety, then moving on to a more refined process. Baarakalah.
@siduspulverem20012 жыл бұрын
Only people that know nothing about steel, knives, making knives, damasteel, and so on likes those… for the rest of us this is pure fun.. LOL
@trpshooter99452 жыл бұрын
Finally discovered where the flea market/swap meet knives are made.
@adityamundada43862 жыл бұрын
Where is it?
@jantschierschky34612 жыл бұрын
Impressive skills, love the safety gear too. Those safety sandals do absolutely guarantee to protect your feet against falling hot metal. Those invisible safety glasses against eye injury. Not to forget those the guards around the band sander.
@creativework2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your valuable comment
@dariomarkovic70912 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 😷
@guglielmoghezzi39122 жыл бұрын
It is a miracle that they can count to ten.
@scoc2532 жыл бұрын
@@guglielmoghezzi3912 only an idiot cannot count to ten. blind, crippled or even deaf can count to ten. stick that to your rice grain brain. its a miracle someone like you in 1st world country that so smart cannot figure that one out.
@nj401002 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the ear protection....Pardon!
@dbaurora2 жыл бұрын
Man this is scary.... so many dangerous action that i am amazed there is still someone alive and with his feet or toes or just skin left. Those guys only misses teeth which is the only things kind of protected... Impressive. And good looking final product even if the knofe itself will be extremly poor quality shit metal no idea of tempering, damascus wont have much itegrity, but look cool.
@mikibihon88262 жыл бұрын
No wonder, not even US or Russia can defeat the Talibans.
@ahmadtree86532 жыл бұрын
Mass product of Damascus knife 🔥
@metubewot2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful knife. It would be ideal as a hunting knife.
@carpmaster91232 жыл бұрын
Техника безопасности шокирует. Как так можно принебрегать элементарными правилами. Конечно станки и оборудование старое изношенное. О качестве ножа можно сказать только после того как опробуешь его. The safety precautions are shocking. How can you neglect elementary rules. Of course the machines and equipment are old worn out. You can tell about the quality of a knife only after you test it.
@brucejacobson33502 жыл бұрын
I just wonder how many apprentices passed (survived) the course??
@fozman8452 жыл бұрын
Bro...Your steel is way to hot basically burned up your carbon. You know the sparkly stuff.
@jerod56362 жыл бұрын
Not just, did you see how dirty their steel was before they welded it? They gonna have delam all over the place. No flux when they refold either. They know what they’re doing, kinda, but they’re cutting every corner possible. They’re all gonna be blind dead and dead anyway. Running a chop saw and power hammer like that. Poor dudes.
@thespongeisright7742 жыл бұрын
Good to see the fine people of Pakistan, Illinois are still churning out high quality steel! 😏
@ALEX-xd7ko2 жыл бұрын
Ive bought multiple knifes and swords from a.g knifes that i would assume is similar to this . All of them hold an amazingly sharp edge.
@seenundercygnus68702 жыл бұрын
I know he is protecting his face, but that man wearing the face cover with sunglasses needs to know how cool he looks. You look bad ass dude.
@hectoralonzo79092 жыл бұрын
Man, that fellow on the chopsaw is definitely asking for it.
@Bryan-C2 жыл бұрын
Right? I was going to say something about the safety sandals but that was just stupid dangerous.
@lordwolve2 жыл бұрын
Abuse of a chop saw 👀
@cyprianmaciej16052 жыл бұрын
0:37 the title should be "cool dudes making knifes"
@axeboy96382 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy one I like to buy one from that hard-working man's hands
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
this video physically hurts, and I am not even a knife maker
@jackbower77322 жыл бұрын
My back hurts just looking as this
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
@@jackbower7732 my back, my eyes, my fingers, my feet, and every sym- and empathy I ever had for random pieces of steel.
@anelpasic52322 жыл бұрын
@@paavobergmann4920 Grow a spine.
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
@@anelpasic5232 Ouh, I did, and I intend on keeping it, thx. same as my central nervous system. You might want to give it a try.
@ujimars54992 жыл бұрын
PPE, Personal-Protective-Equipment !!!!
@indianatone2182 жыл бұрын
I can see health and safety is a primary concern here ,well done lads.
@BushCampingTools2 жыл бұрын
I own a Croco damascus type blade sold from Linder, more than likely from the same country as seen above. It certainly did not lose and edge or delaminate upon use as apposed to abuse (even some sea water usage LOL) , let me remind people that a Falkniven can be delaminated if abused enough or even another high quality Japanese made knife of san mai construction. I also have knives made before my eyes (all day to make them) from a forge in Sumbawa, they are excellent, us "westerners" are not the only ones who can make good knives believe it or not.
@Bushmen9182 жыл бұрын
half these guys complaining , their knives never looked used I'm not gonna use a Falkniven to do what I use these knifes for. These knifes are great for yard work etc
@masgiver2 жыл бұрын
Love your humble comment 👍
@autumn55922 жыл бұрын
@@Bushmen918 If I had something like an F1, I would use it as much as possible. It's a tool to be used, not sit on a shelf. These knives are shit and I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole.
@Bushmen9182 жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 Cost is a factor ,you get what you pay for I am an accomplished flint kapped so I can pretty much make an edge from nothing.I don't need a knife that cost over 100$ to whittle a stick or cut a rope that's a waste of my time because for me to make a 100$ takes my time and I'd rather spend less on a knife that I might have to sharpen a little more and have some beer money left over. I see your point. But in the end both will cut regardless of how fancy the steel or heat treat is. My ancestors did more with less.example all these Malaysians doing these awesome builds with handmade no name tools. If you will do it will do.
@alocin1102 жыл бұрын
The big knives like the swords were used by Burmies Monks in killing thousands of Rohingias people. They used exacly the same big sword-like knife. They should not be allowed to make these type of knives and swords. I don't know which country people are these; most probably India, Bangladesh or Burma. I disliked it. You cannot have a factory like this in USA, CAnada, UK, and Western Europe. It is illegal to run a factory like this without licensing. I see a child (10-12 years) working there. Shame on you!
@v00n20002 жыл бұрын
Why should they not be allowed to make whatever they want to?
@patrickfarley80362 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, Dumb-ass-cuss knives! I see, it's named after the makers!!! That's nice! I always thought it was the type of steel. I'm such an idiot! Question though. What have these guys got against working at a table or work bench? They have 3 phase motors and an electric grid, harbor freight tools, top notch protective gear but not a stick of furniture except the smart guy on the power hammer! He's sitting on a box. He probably has the recipe for nails but won't share it with the others! 🤭
@ilvedalan54042 жыл бұрын
hahaha true)
@jerod56362 жыл бұрын
By top notch protective gear you mean gloves with all the finger tips cut off and flip flops? They don’t have furniture because at the end of the day they roll out their mats to sleep on. If there was furniture there would be nowhere to sleep.
@patrickfarley80362 жыл бұрын
@@jerod5636 👍
@nunez23j12 жыл бұрын
A bunch of master 47, 60,55,20 year experience knife makers. No one is asking to criticize these hard workin men. They do with what little they have. Be grateful that all you super duper master knife makers have nice equipment and can buy/source quality metals. Karens
@gabrielcornea91192 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of people watching this are worried about the workers' safety. The steel-making process is not optimal either, but that's not the most important thing here
@austingoleman94312 жыл бұрын
Hot iron and flip flops seems like a good idea
@DARAD-View-now2 жыл бұрын
*_Очень хороший нож! Красиво получилось!_*
@uneducatedruralmistake93112 жыл бұрын
How, exactly... is this mindblowing?
@undefeatedmc2 жыл бұрын
The title is 'mindblowing technique' I very much doubt the person who wrote it cares or knows about symantics and just copy whatever other channels are doing.
@CNYKnifeNerd2 жыл бұрын
It's mind-blowing that people buy this trash. If you post anything knife related on Instagram you'll get a mind-blowing number of requests from people selling this trash. It's mind-blowing how easily they break. Probably not what the uploader was going for, but there's certainly a bit of mind-blowing related to the video.
@joels.52372 жыл бұрын
@@CNYKnifeNerd 100% true they all look exactly like the knife here.
@CPFMTKV2 жыл бұрын
@@CNYKnifeNerd don’t forget about the mind-blowing safety precautions either
@thejerryj2 жыл бұрын
They should have etched the whole thing, then fitted the grips to the blade so the Damascus was shown in the haft too. Interesting presentation of just how low-tech knife making can be. Good Video!
@mashatimku18362 жыл бұрын
Pro men, awesome tecnic
@lupinandy36002 жыл бұрын
It was so nice job, its hard to make these knives with so simple machine,and already hand made. Just one thing confused me and made question in my mind , they use water for cooling after any heat , and in steel making job , soecially in knife making ,nits not good . I offer these brothers , for making best quality have using oil to cooling not water. The ones hwanna get my mean , go and study about . Bybusing water the quality get down and any steel will be weaker. But its cheaper than using oil !! Just it. Make best quality , then costomer be ready to pay better for your produce . In ebay there is a lot of problem beetwen user and maker or seller , all is around making and knowlage about it .good luck brothers , im from japan .
@attilatamasmakai68502 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid at the time Damascus tecnique was invented, people didn't even know that mineral oil exists at all.
@christopherwheeler6882 жыл бұрын
Is the power hammer being run by a washing machine? Cool!
@nainitalism2 жыл бұрын
It does the job. lol
@Lex557611 ай бұрын
This makes me think of some of the Frost brand (gas station) knives I've had over the years that were made in Pakistan. Some of them were actually not half bad. The 5" folding hunter was always a favorite. The only problem I had with some of them was the back spring was either missing, or arrived broken in the box. But if you can get one that locks up tight, the blade is usually razor sharp and evenly ground with a mirror polish. I love the way they color their bone handles, blue pick bone being my favorite. The blade says "German Stainless Steel", which probably means 4116, about the lowest grade of Krupp 420 they make. Definitely not the Bos treated Buck 420HC, but would be nice if it was. Still decent for a beater knife under $20.
@meguto2 жыл бұрын
that's what i call a true master of steel
@user-dz4mh1cl1n2 жыл бұрын
베리 베리 굿 나이프!!!
@gilbertodemenezes44552 жыл бұрын
UMA FÁBRICA DE OBRAS DE ARTE.PARABÉNS!
@precisionhaze65942 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many of those have been used for beheadings
@gurpo6502 жыл бұрын
Beautiful knives. I want one
@ssn6082 жыл бұрын
hammering away with yellow hot scale flying round, carcoal on the floor.... in open toe sandals. Cutting wheel with no face shield, no protective clothing....guess it must be a special type of cutting wheel not available elsewhere, on that never suddenly throws off chunks at high speed.... Must have a HELL OF A WORKMAN"S COMP INSURANCE plan,, to be so casual about industrial safety.
@meex88hiphop2 жыл бұрын
they are not americans, they dont need a cyber suit to grind steel
@ssn6082 жыл бұрын
@@meex88hiphop Ahhh.... so they can't be blinded by flying cutting blade shrapnel, nor burned by coal lumps hot enough to melt steel. Only Americans are so... vulnerable.
@gabrielcornea91192 жыл бұрын
Sadly, my guess is on that the company doesn't give a crap about the workers' safety or well-being. Most likely there is no insurance at all.. The wages are a joke too, as the factory is basically a "sweatshop". These workers surely deserve better
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
Naah, what could possibly happen? dangling your feet next to a belt-driven grinder with open ventilator blades on the motor? Fine.
@bullbapp2 жыл бұрын
Marvellous knives, and I especially appreciate the nice close ups on the protective footwear used in this workplace..... :-)
@josepeixoto37152 жыл бұрын
Probably all safety sandals,mind you; except the barefoot ones,guess OSHA hasns´t been around there lately lol
@Lex557611 ай бұрын
LOL, Sal Glesser would shit a ton of bricks if he caught one of his people on the factory floor at Spyderco wearing sandals.
@silverback12432 жыл бұрын
Titles are always misleading, but it works .😁
@hibbanbaihaqi17862 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing videos Good jobs From indonesia
@user-hh7uv3hr2e2 жыл бұрын
Что то подсказывает, что это всё для туристов. Как они выводят спуски, явно метал пережгли.
@johnsamu2 жыл бұрын
It's a very wasteful way of making a knife. They constantly need to remove loads of excess material steel and wood by grinding it off. Just look at the amount of sandpaper grinding belts they need for just one knife.
@user-ew9mc2rg1l2 жыл бұрын
Like wood turning, it's just how it is. It's craft passed throughout generations. With new tech there's cast iron but also compromise on the end product.
@anelpasic52322 жыл бұрын
That's the way it's done with pattern welded steel, you can't forge the knife and edge to shape or you will not get a nice looking pattern.
@elvisg54462 жыл бұрын
loving how they all have safety sandals.
@stephensomersify2 жыл бұрын
Long long years of experience and crafting results in Hi Calibre products - UK
@manden222 жыл бұрын
Nothing "mindblowing" ever came from india, except pollution..
@cyrusghosh2 жыл бұрын
Are you fucking kidding me you racist bigot?
@manden222 жыл бұрын
@@cyrusghosh lol racist? I'm not fucking lying.
@cyrusghosh2 жыл бұрын
@@manden22 yep Racist and you're witting bullshit too
@cyrusghosh2 жыл бұрын
@@manden22 what actually makes you take India's name? I've read other comments too and you're one of those who are shitting in the comment section I agree that it is a poor quality product produced from from a third world country but your comment is not even related to the video
@michaell3972 жыл бұрын
Being a retired Custom Knife Maker with over 47 years of experience, I can tell you now, there was nothing mind-blowing about what they were doing other than missing a few basic steps. No flux used in the v folds leads to inclusions in the blade. Very poorly made blades. It may look good to the uninitiated, but these are highly inferior blades. And forging and welding in open toe's sandals? Incredibly stupid. Third world at its worst. I once saw a vid of an Iraqi fighter (group of same) who found an artillery shell and wanted to use it for their own used. To find out if it was a dud or not, they began hitting it on the nose with a big stick. Well, it wasn't a dud. They were all awarded with martyrdom instantly. These guys are operating with the same mentality. Pitiful! KnifeMaker
@willd65152 жыл бұрын
@Michael I I get where you are coming from but these people don't have the same tools, PPE and values like us in the Western world. They make do with what they have, I can respect that, in fact I respect that a lot. The only thing I see in this video are people working hard to feed their families. Just like you did when you were making blades.
@vforvendetta61932 жыл бұрын
If you are that good, when folding it with that heat you don't need flux, the hammering with that power removes most inclusions, you're also not the real thing. You just did some basic stuff.
@steamboatwillie85172 жыл бұрын
850' C........and flipflops. Exquisite!
@CNYKnifeNerd2 жыл бұрын
So the heat treating must be a proprietary secret, or are those massive spark showers flying off during bevel grinding considered the heat treat? I've always wondered how to heat treat rotted Tata leaf springs and old shipping containers, so I really hope someone is able to provide an answer!
@nainitalism2 жыл бұрын
heat to critical temp. At its critical temp steel is no longer magnetic. Quench in peanut oil. Temper at 240 or to a straw colour . Sharpen.
@charlyrodzz2 жыл бұрын
@@nainitalism Temper for how long? Thank you
@nainitalism2 жыл бұрын
@@charlyrodzz I make my own plane irons 3/16 thick. Temper for about 30 to 40 minutes
@paavobergmann49202 жыл бұрын
@@nainitalism some kinds of steel can be heat treated, some can not, no matter what you do. Most rebar, for example, can not. It´s about the crystal structure, and depends on carbon content and alloy composition.
@nainitalism2 жыл бұрын
@@paavobergmann4920 I am aware of that. Studied metallurgy. I use AO steel. Leaf springs can be heat treated. Though I have never used it.
@jimmyp64432 жыл бұрын
All models available at your local Walmart ,$29.95
@achoiucis27092 жыл бұрын
Nice prodct....weldone
@bigmichael61562 жыл бұрын
Mindblowing are the bad working conditions. Maybe this technique was mindblowing 1000 years ago. ;))
@mugsymegaton37692 жыл бұрын
Gives context to the term “Third World Hell-hole” Fun to watch though.
@rickrussell2 жыл бұрын
They can afford a machine shop full of tools, but no tables or benches to hold the machines. Those guys working on the grinding equipment with their arms and legs just draped around the machines gave me the willies. I wonder how many have had their fingers or clothes pulled into the belts or wheels?
@nazariojuarez31562 жыл бұрын
How can I buy a knife from you guys?
@bushkillblades63132 жыл бұрын
Better to take your cash and burn it. Just like they did with the steel. Ruined it before they even welded it.
@stevenjones69752 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.i want one.☺
@noelatajar99082 жыл бұрын
With what they have to manufacture the knives---it is MIND BLOWING indeed! Nobody got body or facial burns, missing toes or fingers .🙂
@rap32082 жыл бұрын
Using skill and common sense has long been the way to make things throughout civiliziation. It's only been 50 years ago that OSHA was implemented.
@babypowder67412 жыл бұрын
Glad to see them using safety gloves and glasses in adequate pose for healthy back. Nice knifes tho
@JamesBrown-js3lm2 жыл бұрын
Super work, beautiful knife
@watchpeasant68562 жыл бұрын
They'd have good business if they were trained properly and also used good quality high carbon steel or spring steel. Hard workers for sure and I'm not here to judge but they could be very wealthy if trained properly and get a good name for themselves!
@th-pw8pn2 жыл бұрын
Yup, they have have enough derelict trucks all over the place to get some 5160 spring steel from, that's actually great steel for making choppers and the like... They don't care about that though, they want to make something cheap and easy that looks "cool" and they can sell for a better profit. The small traditional forges in places like Thailand and the Philippines are still making good knives in traditional designs that are actually used by the locals. That is where I spend my money. I would never buy a knife made in this factory, they are producing absolute garbage... :-/