Why Ramirez?

Why no mention of Ridgway and Dahmer who Ressler and Douglas actually encountered and who could fit the timeline? Douglas himself mentions Ridgway as the case that almost cost him hos life.

Really?? Nobody needs you two clowns to steel peoples time for this bla bla bla show....please don't publish stuff like this...you have no clue about these things!!

I think kemper will play the hannible lecter type of character. I think the duo will turn to him often when they need more profiling.

I hope they do Dahmer

I noticed that too, but he suggested crucifying the dead baby to “bring it back to life”…It’s a fictional show but they took that story from a case where that actually happened.

Good observation.

patricia G correct 👊🏻

I was just writing this comment when I thought I scroll to see if someone had already made it. I couldn't agree more, it's culturally relevant to the time peroid

seriously?

I had a feeling something was up with him in season 1, and when he started wetting the bed and came into the kitchen to apologies I knew he had someone to do with that murder. And that scene of him staring at the cross, was definitely intentional Brian gave me Eric Smith vibes.

@@MsTeo91 My thoughts exactly!!

@@imcopper Seriously what??

I'm a serial killer too 😡 I killed over 200 ants and insects last night. Call da popo on me, I dare you too. 😡

Signe Aarøe Jørgensen yes oh god!!!!

He’s too infamous to not include at some point

You're probably right. David Fincher said the series is going to run 5 seasons. The show can cover lot of time with that.

Signe Aarøe Jørgensen almost killed?

And Ted Bundy helped them catch the Green River killer so that would be amazing to see. I know the show might not continue but I keep hoping.

Yes bc they even pointed out that his profile had no connection with the current ones... Holden waa just a bit of a fan.

I don't blame him, if I was in their line of work(getting into killers heads) I'd have panic attacks to. It just proves he's normal!

Nah, Kay was fine but she had issues if her own and Wendy handled it poorly... Holden's girlfriend on the other hand, never liked her and can't even remember her name now

At first I was like "yes!!! no more Debbie", but Nancy, the Atlanta girls and Carr's girlfriend were brutal lol, I would prefer they would gave us more Kemper and Manson instead.

i feel they didn't properly ended holden and debbie's relationship. i really liked it at the beginning cause she challenged him and basically was the reason of his interest in criminal psychology. and he was very different to the type of guy she used to date. but at the end we had no closure. it was very rushed imo

I couldn't agree more; I thought I was the only one who enjoyed Season 1 more. As much as it was great to see Bill front and centre, as you say the interviews and the internal dynamic of the BSU (especially with Wendy Carr) was sidelined for the Atlanta story. That was strong and compelling, but it wasn't as essentially interesting as seeing the Unit grow and develop new procedures and initiatives based on a variety of killers. I also wanted far more BTK this season, and it felt like he also was dropped, after being built up so insidiously and creepily in the first season.

2 yrs later but .. Im in oklahoma and we dont ever really hear anything about timothy anymore. They habe the whole set up in the city for rememberance of victims but the criminal seems a bit over looked. Guess he didnt really get the recognition he was looking for since everyone talks about the unibomber and tim is like an after thought or something.

also, Holden is based in part on John E. Douglas, who helped profile Ridgeway as part of the Green River Task Force.. I don't think Douglas interviewed Bundy as part of the case, others did, but it wouldn't be a narrative stretch to have Holden do so as part of the series... so it fits.. Ridgeway really started ramping up between '82-'84... so it's just fitting... he's another who lived a "normal" double life..

fun fact. Douglas was part of the West Memphis 3 case as a profiler.. but much later in 2005-6.. and came up with a profile of a lone adult who knew the kids and it being an unplanned act of rage (and not so called satanism)

Too bad it was announced today that it'll be more than 2 years until season 3 due to Fincher working on Gone Girl sequel.

@@automaticmattywhack1470 If renewed... I do hope it gets the renewal, I don't mind the wait

Season 2 and 3 YES!. Season 1 is a masterpiece (minus the last episode).

@@randyjohnson9760 haha so true, season 1 was absolute perfection. Can't say for season 3 but 2 was just horrible and not worth finishing.

Tam season 1 is a masterpiece all the way thru. Season 3 was very very good.

@@paisan8766 haven't bothered watch season 3 but I guess I'll give it a try.

tench and ford definitely gave me hart and cohle vibes. although true detective is more of a gothic tale

Zoey Noémie really? They made a point of ending the scene zooming in on it

I'd love to see Bundy brought up in season 3 but with all the hype in the last few years I feel David Fincher will avoid that plot.

I couldn't deal with the boring tuna can storyline..

I feel the reverse, season 1 feels like classic, season 2 feels a little slow and more of the same.

@@saskee1999 yeah season two felt really slow to me. the first season was so exciting because they were discovering something new. second season was just drawn out for 9 hours of them trying to find one person. still good though but i found myself not paying attention a lot, even in last episode

I agree

Has that been confirmed that they have 3 more seasons?

The film river man springs to mind

It’s a shame the show was cancelled

well, jumping to Autism is a bit presumptuous on your part. many of the traits the boy exhibits encompass a wide variety of different things.. just because some are stereotypically similar, they are not at all unique to the Autism Spectrum by far... ptsd, psychopathy, etc.. also, you are judging her with very modern eyes and knowledge.. this was '81-'82, not much was commonly known about such disorders, autism/ptsd/etc.. especially even on an institutional front lines level.. Autism didn't even become a spectrum until '94.. and a whole lot of advancement in public mental health and knowledge has happened since her time in the story... also info moved way slower, no 24 hour news cycle, no internet, maybe 8-10 channels on T.V. at best. (only 3 major networks producing content really).. so you are right, to a degree, regardless of what's wrong with her son, she's in denial.. and regardless, it still happens today even with ALL the progress made.. but it's also easy to judge someone else offhandedly, especially out of their shoes and context.. it's a lot to process and there was also a child murder.. give the fictional woman a moment to process.. heh. there also weren't support systems, groups, hell, just knowledge out there.. a whole host of stuff we enjoy today wasn't available then, I know. I'm also on the spectrum. so try to keep it in perspective a bit is all I'm saying.

Maybe as someone who is undergoing testing for this i read in to it but i call bull shit on not getting to judge by modern standards. You dont get a pass for fucking up that bad because it was the 80s. My parents managed to not completely destroy me and given all the hints thr author is dropping i fo call autism. A more extreme case to be sure but child hood abuse (from before he was adopted they imply) can make bad symptoms worse.

And for reference i am also an early 80s child so again Nancy gets very little sympathy from me she strikes me as being more concerned for herseld than her son.

@@Sephirajo, I agree 100%. The first season I just thought autism on some degree. My son was born 1981 and although wasn't autistic he did eventually show signs of dyslexia, which in itself (especially back then) wasn't all that "accepted" as a true problem. We were told things like " he just doesn't pay attention ","maybe he's ADD" it's horrible when "professionals" tell you your child will "never learn normally" luckily he's dealt with it just fine and I hope you did too. Nancy just wants a perfect little child and only cares about what she wants or they would have noticed his behavior long ago.

Yeah I thought it was a good film!

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@Torchy Brown damn you right 🕵

I was in elementary school in Davie Florida when this happened and remember his missing poster's everywhere..My mother never went to that mall ever again what a tragedy...

No possible since Bundy was executed 1/24/89

Its BTK, it showing us the guy we're checking in on, has actually already killed people in the past. And BTK actually wore the mask and took pics himself.

@@JohnDee633 It looked like whoever is wearing the mask (I assumed it was the nut job "BTK") is trying to kill himself. I left Kansas in 1984 to join the navy and that BTK stuff just freaked people out of course (luckily did not live in WIchita area). He got caught 3 years before I retired from the military. I never killed one soul in twenty years and that creep took how many lives? One that won't ever be covered by Mindhunter, the Clutter family killings in Holcomb, Ks 1959, not "serial killers" (from the book turned movie "In Cold Blood") just people out for money, which turns out the Holcomb's money was all tied up in farm equipment! Grandparents lived 2-3 hours from Holcomb, out there where "nothing ever happens", my wife grew up in Brooklyn 70's/80's so really remembers all the Son of Sam crap. Hopefully the whole BSU thing really helps, it's still a crazy world.

Ikr i was super hoping for a 10th!!

The thing is that he is not interesting enough for that, don't think he'll play into the theme very well. Plus, kinda getting Ramirez burn out with American horror story already depicting him

@@bimbowithadegree420 didn't know he was in AMS . I don't know how can say he's not interesting. Have you read his back story and capture ??? Perfect for this show. Not play into what type of theme? The sadistic serial killer ? Lol

you know im actually hoping he has a cameo, and that Zac Efron should play him again giving the the Ted Bundy movie by netflix starred him

@@letsslayletsplay6525 Lord, no.

AHA, YES. On another note, I absolutely loved this show. Better be a season 3.

luna cascade I agree. It’s more compelling than what they break down