Minding Your mAhs - Ep005 - 30Q, HG2, or VTC6, which is the best 3000mAh battery?

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Minding Your mAhs - Ep005 - 30Q, HG2, or VTC6, which is the best 3000mAh battery?

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Minding Your mAhs - Episode 5
Topics:
- 30Q, HG2, or VTC6, which is the best 3000mAh battery?
Finding Me:
- Mooch ECF blog: www.e-cigarett...
- Mooch Facebook page: / batterymooch
- Mooch315 electronic_cigarette subreddit posts: / mooch315
- batterymooch on Instagram: / batterymooch
The pinned post at the top of my Facebook page or my blog at ECF has everything. Please check there first.
If you would like to support my testing efforts: www.paypal.me/...
Battery Vendors:
These vendors have been reliable in the past for me and many other vapers.
www.akkuteile.de
www.batterybro.com
www.ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk
www.illumn.com
www.imrbatteries.com
www.liionwholesale.com
www.nkon.nl
www.orbtronic.com
www.rtdvapor.com
A great calculator for vapers:
www.steam-engin...
Disclaimer:
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery’s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.
Where known, the ratings set by Samsung, Sony, LG, or Panasonic/Sanyo will be used.
Any battery from Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can be a lower grade battery or a fake. Only buy from a known, trusted source of genuine batteries. Even then, there are no guarantees.
Carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never, ever, be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.
These tests I do only note the estimated ratings for the batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
The information and opinions contained in this video are for general information purposes and are not intended to constitute legal or other professional advice. This video should not be relied on or treated as a substitute for specific advice relevant to particular circumstances.

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@VapingBiker 6 жыл бұрын

Another great video Mooch! I enjoyed that, and the new testing information is great! 👍😃🤘

@ChadDidNothingWrong 4 жыл бұрын

I do miss the pulse graphs though... I used to compare them because I only pulsed for 1-2 secs, and the drop across that 5 second pulse could vary quite a bit between two similar batteries..... For example: Batt.A might initially sag to 3.6V, and quickly drop (in a linear fashion) to 3.3v over the 5 seconds, while Batt.B, despite also initially sagging to 3.6V, might decrease _logarithmically_ to 3.3V, mostly retaining that 3.6v for the first 2 seconds (which matters to me), before sharply crashing to 3.3v during the last 3 seconds (Which wouldn't matter to me). I really just wanted to show that there is at least *_some_* unique usefulness to be had from those old pulse graphs. (At least for the first 3 or 4 pulses.)

@shawnmaxwell6509 11 ай бұрын

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@WeirdTippy 6 жыл бұрын

On behalf of the entire vaping community I thank you for putting all of this out there and for constantly testing new batteries and for teaching us about battery safety. All hail Mooch!

@PastTheDirtRoad 6 жыл бұрын

If my teachers in school had been like you I would have actually paid attention. Your method is teachingis top notch man

@CanonFirefly 6 жыл бұрын

If only your teachers were teaching you how to vape.... haha

@geoffsearle2778 5 жыл бұрын

I teach...Mooch is untrained as a teacher, but better than many I've worked with ;)

@globalmalfunction 6 жыл бұрын

You and DIY ejuice channels are THE BEST contributors to this community. Content like this puts people like RIP to shame

@teapot294 6 жыл бұрын

Vape community king is back! Everyone who wants to vape should watch mooch videos

@scotthawesome 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. Very thorough. I’m glad you mentioned the longevity of the cells at the very end. From my research, the 30Q really is the best 3000mAh/15A (20A) battery when comparing the overall results. The VTC6 suffers a significant capacity loss after 50 cycles. Because the VTC5A has such a solid reputation, due to bias, many just stick with the brand when seeking a 3000mAh version. I think the 30Q is a magnificent performer.

@LDWilliams 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thank you. That is a whole lot easier to understand May I make a suggestion? Make a excel spreadsheet of all of the results in future, and make it downloadable, That way everyone can then simply use the file and sort the batteries into whichever order that they wanted, as per which spec is the most important to them - internal resistance, voltage sag, watt hour at 10A & 15A

@fooboomoo 6 жыл бұрын

You are doing a HUGE server for the community! Thank you for that

@kweendarling 6 жыл бұрын

From someone who has always declared a complete lack of battery knowledge and understanding, I must say that I did understand this completely. WELL DONE, Mooch!! And big thanks. :)

@Joshatdot 6 жыл бұрын

This helps me confirm that the VTC6's I got last fall were the right choice to replace my 18+ month old HG2's

@RIPdBOON 6 жыл бұрын

Joshatdot they're great batteries for sure. I just got a pair of 30 Q's and they have been amazing as well.

@ricktrenkler3254 6 жыл бұрын

Again I hate that the video ends. I love your work. Thanks for all you do!

@ChollaRanch 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch, your unsurpassable ability to clearly convey complex concepts so succinctly is thoroughly appreciated. Muchos thankos!

@IRChevy 6 жыл бұрын

You know you're a gentleman and a scholar when you create your own battery benchmarking system to cut through all the manufacturers marketing bullshit to give the people the real relevant numbers. You sir are a hero.

@shawn7889 6 жыл бұрын

Been using your charts for the longest man. Youre one of the biggest assets to the industry, glad we have you to educate us man 😀

@shifty277 4 жыл бұрын

Solid explanation and video here Mooch. Your efforts for the community is appreciated, hope you know that! Thumbs up.

@rnbwp82 4 жыл бұрын

You are a superlative teacher. I learn so, so, SO much from you. Years ago, when I first started following you, I had several moments of true panic as I realized how dangerous these batteries are, ESPECIALLY when buying from shady places on the internet. I immediately threw all of my "purple efest" batteries of unknown origin out and started buying from one of your recommended sources. And now I take everything I absorb from you out into the world to my friends and family to make sure we all stay as safe and informed as possible. Thank you for everything you do for the community!

@RickLewis 6 жыл бұрын

This guy is truly a genius and super at explaining things so even the not so smartest people can understand it. Thanks!

@RTegland 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch , when we spoke a couple years ago,, I thought you were cocky and misleading people to unsafely over amp their batteries. I owe you an apology. Your a good man with even better information. I hope someone pays you enough to continue doing this work for people to stay informed on what is safe and what is not. Keep up the work, I know it can be long an tedious and sometimes not rewarding. I do similar research, but only for personal reasons. So thank you. Stay safe buddy.

@batterymooch 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@RTegland 6 жыл бұрын

Your channel is the only channel I am subscribed to, and I've been on youtube for years. All your information is so correct, that it's hard not to watch.

@TheSalfordVaper 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch you're the only person I rely on for all my battery information and I thank you sir for all you do theses vids have been a god send.

@alexpiccioni1907 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch... your still going strong... thank you for the information you are the battery info god lol... we need more people like you in the community

@wesleyduca897 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch you don't know how much I appreciate you making it easier for me to understand batteries! It is very interesting to see you break it down like you do thanks man I'm excited to learn more!

@chessygloyna8507 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mooch! I don’t know what we would do without you. Trust the battery wraps? Lol. Great video and you explained it well.

@123benley 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch you are the most Trusted guy in vaping to date , either on KZfaq or online forums, Even though you do not do reviews or such An have only just started your own KZfaq channel. but your knowledge and input has been the best for every new old an in-between vaper, you have saved so many people from potential mishaps with there mods and cells a big Thank you , 👍👍

@thinkforyourself5672 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for everything you do for the community brother. It's imperative that this information gets shared and spread. Again thank you for all the time you take from your life to help others

@mmanda515 6 жыл бұрын

You're amazing... Been following your blog for yearS now. :) Thanks for sharing your knowledge, experience & time!!! LIVE LONG(er) & VAPE ON!

@cloud9coilzglennmusial238 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for putting these videos up! The way you present the information is very well done. Simplified enough for us dummies out here but still informative enough that all vapers should watch these videos, regardless of knowledge or experience.

@williamholder7471 6 жыл бұрын

another perfect video mooch. I swear I feel like u r talking directly to me when you make these videos, I know you arent, but, always answering all my exact questions. thanx for all u do mooch

@mysterc2862 6 жыл бұрын

Iv been using hg2s for a while now, I dont really go above 68 watts but overall I am happy with longevity of a fully charged cell as well as performance, i can see if you were using a single cell device how sony or samsung would be a better choice, once I retire my hg2’s I will deffinitly try another type of 18650 as per your data suggests, thx mooch!! Keep it up, I hope your enjoying making the content as much as the community is enjoying watching and learning from you, truly I am grateful for your knowledge.

@littlejonoutdoors5060 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another great video filled with "don't blow yourself up" information. Most comprehensive battery videos out there!

@dinosaurianden1253 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mooch! It is totally awesome you made it clear mAh capacity has nothing common with voltage. it is really not that apparent fact! You're great! as for HG2 i always thought it is 2500mah battery (my measurements are (on avearge): 30Q - 3020mAh, VTC6 - 3080mAh, HG2 - 2600mAh, VTC5A - 2550mAh)

@NanetteNY 6 жыл бұрын

Another informative lesson by #ProfessorMooch 👊🏼 Thank you for your time and effort 🤗 👍🏼👏🏼

@pharmernorm 6 жыл бұрын

Mooch delivers yet again. You're the best Mr Mooch.

@Dreadnought33 6 жыл бұрын

I see you're getting more and more comfortable in front of the camera, Mooch. That is great! And, as always, very good and infomative video

@ianswt 6 жыл бұрын

Wonderfully clear explanation of the factors to consider when choosing our batteries thanks Mooch. I like that you also include the initial cost and life cycle of the cells in your considerations. Will certainly be interested in your longevity results in due course!

@gwaynel8363 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mooch for another great battery lesson. We appreciate so much your help. Have a great day!!

@airinbone 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and time saved. I just post your links as it saves troll arguments that start with a question then after answered , the person who has probably never tested a single battery in their life, wants to argue with someone who has been testing for 33 years. SMH. Thanks again for time saved because if they don't hear it from you the info is not correct .

@andysgaff4125 6 жыл бұрын

Great vid mooch, your reminding me how much I enjoyed physics at school when I was a pup. Amazing how we forget stuff we don't always use. Thanx for the info and keep it coming :)

@christopherdarby4878 6 жыл бұрын

hello mooch you are a great teacher people should b very proud that you take your time to help orders to know about batteries so they don't hurt themselves cos DARES loads of people out there that haven.t a clue they think that they can put a battery in a mech mod and vape all day long then they wonder why it blows up on dem you are a savior for dem b proud of what you DO CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MOOCH☺☺☺☻☻♥♥♦♣♠

@alexanderrahl482 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man you really helped me in picking my first 18650s. I would rather have greater longevity and sacrifice a bit of power. 30Q for me. :)

@PawgSlayer 6 жыл бұрын

Another great vid mooch. I love how u go over everything on the white board nd use graphs, it really helps me to understand what ur talking about. All of this info is priceless. Thankyou.

@skipmacwilliam7019 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Mooch! I am learning so much from you. Please keep these coming!

@kennethpatton7710 6 жыл бұрын

Great video Mooch. I like the way you explain the data in "laymens" terms.

@fergman901 6 жыл бұрын

Another great video, very informative and easily digestible. As always, thank you for the continued work you're doing to help this community.

@Garrett4681 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome info for the newbie and veteran Vaper alike. New "stats" are very usefull Keep em coming man, thanx

@toddlls2986 6 жыл бұрын

Again, thankyou Sir for doing these videos. I can’t believe how much I’m learning from you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@morsumbra9692 4 жыл бұрын

Just found this for building a battery for am electric skateboard. This took me back to college:) somehow a lot more fun here lol

@batterymooch 4 жыл бұрын

I hope it’s useful enough for you to consider subscribing. 🙂

@marcoposocco8120 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Mooch. Your linear and simple explanations are great. keep on rocking

@user-cz4pv7gy1u 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the work you’re putting in and for these very informative test results. I would really like to see you make a video about the LiPo cells we use in vaping and when they should be replaced, etc. It would also be very helpful if you could discuss when we should be retiring 18650 cells, etc.

@FPVREVIEWS 4 жыл бұрын

finally someone explains the area inside the graph. basic Trig, but easier to visualize for most people that way. (inc me ) ha ha thanks.

@racheldean6943 6 жыл бұрын

Great video mooch thanks for all your hard work that you do for this community . we’re would we be without mooch🙏🏼 . vape on ✌🏼

@nick1fenton 6 жыл бұрын

Looking forwards to the next episode. Sir if you've never taught, you should consider it. You're a natural

@ohiovapes3075 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mooch great video as always! thanks for what you're doing for us in the vape community

@Bamaman14k 6 жыл бұрын

Another incredibly informative video. That's amazing that you've done this much work into battery research and the really important stuff that the Ohm's law is just not enough to figure out, and I'm just hearing about it. When I first started vaping no one asked me what kind of coil I was looking for what wattage I was going to be using or what amperage of battery I needed. I followed the instructions in the manual that came with the mod it's a "regulated" mod but over the last four now 5 videos I've learned that the pamphlet Inside the Box may have been a generic pamphlet because it's not making as much sense as you are. Keep it up, just wish I knew this before I bought all those batteries. Thanks a bunch Mooch and keep making the videos

@grumpyoldben 6 жыл бұрын

You nail it yet again ... looking forward to the next one already !

@gnikkg1437 6 жыл бұрын

GREST video Mooch , wasn’t expecting the outcome of vtc6

@4BillC 6 жыл бұрын

Best explanation of watt hours! Thanks Mooch!

@alphaadhito 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, very complete explanation. Thank you very much!

@1298bla 6 жыл бұрын

WHOO HOO I understood this one first time. Thank you for all you do and please keep up with the reviews.

@dennielleelaine 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doc! 😊 Totally got a better understanding of what I'm working with

@jjssousa81 6 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your videos. You've got a lot of information and are a great teacher.

@CaptainRon1913 6 жыл бұрын

Pleasant surprise. Didn't know you were doing videos now. Excellent!

@ALPHAJACK78 5 жыл бұрын

Great teaching, thank you Mooch !

@puttingtheoriesintoaction8462 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mooch. Keep our minds thinking about vape variables. Sony VTC6's were the first set I bought when I got a mod w/o internal battery in Sept '17. They have been well cared for & your instructions are being followed. A safer vape starts with understanding what vaping is. Would you mind getting a degree in Flavor Compounding to help resolve dicetyl issues and such. I'm starting to DIY eliquids and weed such things out.

@chrisbraun11 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks agian Mooch for sharing your knowledge! With you explaining everything in your videos, I've learnt alot. Cheers.

@charlesgaut1887 6 жыл бұрын

Liked. Commented ENJOYED! love learning at 330am, before leaving for work. Thanks Mooch! 💯💯✔✔👍👍✋✋

@krittinteerasawasdi4333 6 жыл бұрын

That's just what I'm looking for!! Thank you once again Mooch :)

@crownhic6827 5 жыл бұрын

I guess I should of watched this first. I just bought a few HG2's. 😂 thanks for the info

@batterymooch 5 жыл бұрын

There’s not a big difference. The HG2’s should perform well for you. 🙂

@d00ks 5 жыл бұрын

B Kopp I just bought 3 for my tri mod.. they work great. But I’m looking at the VTC6 3000 mah to use while I charge my HG2s

@scottjenkins3657 6 жыл бұрын

thank you Mooch for all your hard work!! i appreciate everything you do for the vape community. fantastic job. really impressed with the thorough explanations. looking forward to the next one. thanks for keeping us safe :D

@jasonu.3020 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. Watt Hours are definitely a better way to judge battery performance than amps and mAhs. I look forward to seeing more of these shootout videos. I can also see having this kind of information in the minds (and wallets) of consumers should encourage manufacturers to produce better batteries with lower internal resistances/chemistry. I think for the most part they have been relying on consumers being ignorant of how batteries rate against each other and hoping that printing ridiculous performance numbers on the wraps will cause your average Joe to just buy it. This is performance accountability.

@ryankrause9223 6 жыл бұрын

I'm loving the videos mooch thanks for another great one, they are always loaded with a huge amount of great information, keep up the great work and a huge thank you for what you do for The Vaping community!

@SamLopeZz 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much sir, another amazing piece! Where would the vapers be without you, you're a legend. This means so much for us whom want to understand better exactly how things are working. My sincerest gratitude Mooch

@queeryourvape4488 6 жыл бұрын

Your videos are so helpful and reassuring! Thank you for all your hard work!

@MrJabadahat 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mooch, really appreciate the info, now i get it why my vtc6 died in just 2 mos.

@em0_tion 6 жыл бұрын

My mom really appreciates your videos. Now i rarely even yell "Mah!" when i need something xDDD

@madbonez6702 6 жыл бұрын

Glad that you decided to start making videos man!

@AllClouded 6 жыл бұрын

Great breakdown mooch. You do great work for our community

@DocWat280 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time and effort passing on the info 😗☁️

@neotoxo54 6 жыл бұрын

My head hurts after trying to absorb that awesome presentation. 🤔 Need to go take my meds.😜 Thanks for another mind filling lesson but I hope there is not a final exam at the end of this series. 🙏. All joking aside, this reinforces my precautions and direction of my quest for both efficiency and performance during my ‘Vape Journey’, much thanks agian. 👍🏻👍🏻

@alanballantyne9207 6 жыл бұрын

Great video again Mooch...thanks for doing these, they really help.

@kevinbrigham8539 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for sharing knowledge, Mr Mooch,. Much appreciated.

@Digital_504 6 жыл бұрын

Are you planning on testing battery chargers? Thanks for the videos Mooch.

@batterymooch 6 жыл бұрын

No time. :-) Perhaps in the future.

@emu314159 5 жыл бұрын

Very rigorous and highly enjoyable. Thank you.

@marandajones304 6 жыл бұрын

Mr Mooch Killin it with the YT game! Another helpful, great video! 😉

@trevorlarkin1942 6 жыл бұрын

Best video yet Mooch, thank you!

@stanglifemike 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thanks Mooch!! I'm looking forward to your results on longest life involving discharge cycles. I use regulated mods and have been using HG2s for years with great results. I'm excited to see how they compare, though, as I've got 2 year old HG2s that seems to perform just as well as new HG2s.

@billtbodger 6 жыл бұрын

A great video again Mooch Thenk You, I Like the Sony VTC6 in my mods running at around 100w, I find the Samsung 30Q seems to run out of power sooner, I have a set of LG HG2s and was a bit disappoinrted with them and I get low battery warning about 2/3 of the way through a cycle as the vaoltage got closer to 3.5v a lot sooner than either of the others. I ran the LGs at around 70w and they just about hold up, at much lower wattages they are still fine

@TAEbot 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for dropping that knowledge Mooch!

@bellarowella 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another great episode, Mooch!

@BoboXstream 6 жыл бұрын

Battery shootouts are really good cheers mooch👍

@mrfockerdk 6 жыл бұрын

Great video, i am from denmark and here the vtc6 is cheaper than 30q/hg2

@christinewright8622 6 жыл бұрын

Very informative - thank you so much. These videos are very clear and succinct.

@nsacc5600 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making videos. This is highly educational and interesting. Sir, you are awesome!

@wrdptrsn8701 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the all the excellent you provide!!!

@angied2374 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mooch! Appreciate the video as always! 💨💨💨💨

@charlestilley2576 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great info, I have both the LG HG2 & Sony VTC6 (two sets of each), have yet to use the latter.....yet the LG HG2 is a dang good battery. I never allow mine to discharge below 3.7V, has been recharged many times & unlike some others I have, the performance is still there! Love your KZfaq channel, hope to learn more about batteries.;-)

@danielthomas4005 6 жыл бұрын

The Dislikes on your videos obviously come from those using batteries incorrectly! Keep it up Mooch 👊

@vikramchanna5571 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million for your vids, Mooch! This gives me a totally new perspective, and far better understanding of the batteries we're using, of what goes on inside, and what that means for us vapers using these batteries. Really eye-opening stuff, fascinating and utterly helpful. Again, big thanks, huge thumbs up!

@joeblum5842 6 жыл бұрын

Really enjoying the videos Mooch......very good, solid info.....keep them coming! Thank you! =)

@dfsimmons55 6 жыл бұрын

Another very informative video! This information really helps when buying batteries!

@jjssousa81 6 жыл бұрын

It seems crazy that battery companies get away with lying about their amp ratings. This can cause someone to be seriously hurt. There really needs to be an independent person like you that puts the ratings on these batteries for all the companies.

@07zx14White 6 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Sousa In a perfect world yes, but it's not going to happen. That's why we appreciate someone who has the knowledge, the gear, and the desire to test for us. That's why we should view the crap out of his videos and support him. I understand the batteries and the technology quite well but this is Mooch's bread and butter and his domain. He's the guy to go to in this place and can be trusted. Let's support his years of service as I know you do man.