MiniDisc in 2023: A Retro Revival or a Relic of the Past?

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Michael Andrew

Michael Andrew

Жыл бұрын

Will the MiniDisc make a colossal comeback anytime soon? 2023 perhaps? Find out more about the history of the format and my opinion on its future.
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@christopherchadwick480
@christopherchadwick480 Жыл бұрын
MD still feels like a format from an alternative future.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Like a cyberpunk alternative to the CD lol
@proffessasvids
@proffessasvids Жыл бұрын
I'm in that future dude, don't worry lol xx
@bronyman9000
@bronyman9000 Ай бұрын
Well fun fact to me is I didn't know about since I subbed the fixt there's a scandroid minidisc thing so I had to look this up there ain't no mini disc players out there but now there it like the vinyl and cassette players out there. And scandroid is a dark synth artist
@Coffeeology
@Coffeeology 7 күн бұрын
@@mykandrewyes!!!!!
@jgreen_colony5787
@jgreen_colony5787 Жыл бұрын
I remember back in 2003, heading off to college and wanting a portable music player. I picked the Sony MD over an iPod because of the ability to swap batteries... It was a great sidekick and I still have that little guy to this day.
@Jewellerybybarrie
@Jewellerybybarrie Жыл бұрын
The ability to swap batteries is one reason why more walkmans etc still exist today compared with mp3 players. My old WM-EX525 has a sticker claiming up to 35 hours of playback on one AA battery. When you consider the amount of moving parts compared to MP3 players thats incredible.....
@ItsDrMcQuack
@ItsDrMcQuack Жыл бұрын
Dude, non-replaceable batteries is just about the most anti-consumer idea of the last 20 years. Luckily, it seems that alternatives are gaining momentum, with right to repair pushes and so on. And I'm all for it!
@RootinrPootine
@RootinrPootine 8 ай бұрын
Same.
@Eduardo_Chaves
@Eduardo_Chaves Жыл бұрын
It may seem strange, but I like the feeling of grabbing the media. Feel like it's something that exists!
@ItsDrMcQuack
@ItsDrMcQuack Жыл бұрын
Not strange at all, friend :) it's what's been driving the vinyl record and cassette tape revivals. Loads of people like the experience of physical media. You're NOT alone! :)
@nixonhoover2
@nixonhoover2 9 ай бұрын
You also like the feeling when grabbing yourself?
@whyrpm
@whyrpm 8 ай бұрын
This is the exact reason i got into collecting vinyl records while i still listen to most of my music on KZfaq or Spotify i love physical owning the music i love to listen to
@S500-
@S500- Ай бұрын
Its Compeletly Normal not strange in any way , i prefer physical media like cassettes ,Cd's over stream wireless
@timconklin2164
@timconklin2164 Жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to see Mini-Discs to make a comeback even more than CD.
@chuheihkg
@chuheihkg Жыл бұрын
It is likely not possible as the society still yet figure how to make a new recorder.
@Princeton_James
@Princeton_James Жыл бұрын
They never will.
@goodnightmoon
@goodnightmoon Жыл бұрын
why? CD is more efficient
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 8 ай бұрын
Very unlikely. One thing CDs and CD players are still been made, MD is not been made.
@asbjrnandersen4222
@asbjrnandersen4222 4 ай бұрын
Much rather MD than the weird cassette-comeback that is somehow happening
@LaurenGlenn
@LaurenGlenn Жыл бұрын
I love MiniDisc and even loved it in the 90s. Had a car deck too. :) Great buffering, but my favorite feature was the editing of track stops and removal of tracks on the fly. One thing I always used MD for then was for live concerts. You'd edit the start of the track to be at the beginning of the first instrument playing or voice heard... then when you shuffle the songs, it's like a custom concert every time. It was just that seamless when you'd shuffle.
@marcusa.rivera6377
@marcusa.rivera6377 7 ай бұрын
Oh yes, great for editing on the unit by itself. 👍
@troyconnolly9053
@troyconnolly9053 Жыл бұрын
Dcc was reasonably successful in Holland and Germany.And definitely a few people around interested in dcc Philips never seems to get the recognition it deserves for inventing 2 of the most significant Audio formats of the 20th century.
@igorpoco2420
@igorpoco2420 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Philips didn't opt for two mp1 tracks at 448 instead of 384, they could shorten the max tape size from ~105 to 74. 896kbps would be better than 768. Still, the sound was superior to MiniDisc.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 10 ай бұрын
@@igorpoco2420Only the very first generation of MiniDisc recorders had inferior sound to DCC. Later versions matched, and then exceeded it.
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 8 ай бұрын
In the UK I only ever seen a DCC player once. And that was in a Cash Converters a few months ago. No idea if it worked or not. Minidisc I saw a few times during the 90s and 00s, but never owned one though.
@Solitaire001
@Solitaire001 3 ай бұрын
I had a first-generation DCC Deck and a Player. While the format was good, I think one of the major factors that worked against DCC was the portable player. Although the portable player was portable, in the sense that you could carry it with you from place to place, it was too large to fit in your pocket and due to the weight you had to carry it in your hand. Added to that was the short battery life. However, the main issue with the player was it had a proprietary battery pack that when fully charged gave your about 90 minutes of playback time, and IIRC took about that long to charge the battery pack. Those factors caused me to give up on DCC.
@StultifiedGraphics
@StultifiedGraphics Жыл бұрын
I found my Minidisc player yesterday, I had mine over 22 years ago, it still works perfect and was amazed at how good the Audio was, i remember loving it back then but it had been a while, it sounds so good. Wish they would have keep making them. Sound so much better then what my phone produces.
@chuheihkg
@chuheihkg Жыл бұрын
These people usually make worse. The society still figure how to save the crap. I personally have prepared some notes about how to play the crap, without using any related M.O recorders and related M.O disks.
@sevcaczech5961
@sevcaczech5961 11 ай бұрын
Mike, don't use SonicStage. It converts sound in LP2 mode (132kbps) even if you set recording to SP. Use Web Minidisc or Platinum MD, both SW made in 2020. They do recording in real SP 292 kbps. Sound quality is then comparable with AAC 320 and much better than youtube's AAC 128 kbps.. Anyway, I like Minidisc decks. True HiFi with very good DAC.
@aaronfitzgerald9109
@aaronfitzgerald9109 9 ай бұрын
Where can I get that software from?
@gauravLDH
@gauravLDH Ай бұрын
It's an online software, Google it. ​@@aaronfitzgerald9109
@diarmaidok
@diarmaidok Жыл бұрын
MiniDiscs remind me of a day when I listened to music pretty much CD quality on the go. Now my portable music player (phone) plays music at a much lower standard and my phone listens to me.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Try Qobuz with a DAC dongle it might surprise you. But I totally get it, you can't beat some of the amazing inventions of the past.
@diarmaidok
@diarmaidok Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew I got another portable minidisc recorder so I can listen to CD quality music without any of the invasive tracking and spying phones do these days
@juansanchez7784
@juansanchez7784 4 ай бұрын
Mini Disc is brilliant I have more than 300 recorded MDs starting from 1998 and I just played a anMD recorded in 1999 to test out a midrange Sony MD JB 330 Deck I recently bought on eBay UK for £99 & it played perfectly with a great sound , I also just bought a higher end Sony JBD 930 UK tuned edition & for £279 with the remote instructions fully boxed in mint condition & I played a few MDs & they sound like I just recorded them absolutely brilliant, I love MDs I think the Medea format is brilliant & also for portability cheers and peace ✌️
@mykandrew
@mykandrew 4 ай бұрын
It's a fun format!
@martynkorol5322
@martynkorol5322 4 ай бұрын
Work as a rock dj with almost 2000 discs. I still have all the original cds I bought and copied..!! It was and is still an incredible format. All my players are mostly exx bbc. Bought when they "abandoned" the format from a guy who clears radio stations. Ahead of its time...!! Martyn.
@zefugi
@zefugi 8 ай бұрын
The magneto-optical drive technology were the precursor of the MiniDisc. It was both a magnetic and optical hybrid medium, a fusion between cassette tapes and compact discs.
@taucetus3657
@taucetus3657 11 ай бұрын
Thats me. Still using Mini Discs to this day. You simply can’t beat the sound quality
@sandr6769
@sandr6769 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for vinyl and CDs being the main part of my music collection, I would go for MDs - they're quite expensive, especially a working equipment. Very elegant media.
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
It really depends on what you call expensive. I've bought about 40 or so perfectly working MiniDisc recorders mostly for no more than £50 and I have 2 MiniDisc decks too, one that set me back £65 and the other that was free with a load of discs that I bought. Both the decks are the MDS-JE330 and don't support MDLP but they are both in perfect working order, with their remotes. I don't think I'll need to buy any more discs for a while because I have about 200 used ones and 150 still shrink wrapped. My rule of thumb for buying discs was used ones £1 a time and new ones £2 a time. The price has gone up a bit since I bought them but there are still bargains out there to be had.
@JeHaVe
@JeHaVe Жыл бұрын
I still use MD and I still enjoy it!
@luigivincenz3843
@luigivincenz3843 10 ай бұрын
Used to work summer jobs back in school at a Sony parts distributor in Canada back in the late 90's. Japanese tourists/students would drop by and in broken English ask for parts for their MD players. They would prefer to talk to me because I was their age. They didn't want to give up their MD players. If there is a small part that looks like 5 Cents to make and sells for $25, they'll buy it.
@tonyjuliano1
@tonyjuliano1 Жыл бұрын
Minidisc was doomed by being too far ahead of its time. Even though ATRAC is a lossy format, it is far superior to MP3 or other lossy codecs, at least in its later versions. The hardware ( most of it, anyway) was a technological marvel, and build quality of most units is something that will never be matched again. I still have 3 portables (2 recorders and a play only), plus two decks - one of them a pro model. I have, and will continue to maintain and service them.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
It could have been the next generation of physical media had they waited and made it sound as good as CDs. I discovered so much amazing information while researching for this video!
@tonyjuliano1
@tonyjuliano1 Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew It was as good as CD, for most genres of music. Unless you had a VERY good system for playback (like better than 90% have, IMO) one could not tell the difference.
@roxics
@roxics Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew I disagree. While I think uncompressed audio is a factor for audiophiles, I can't tell the difference between MP3, ATRAC, or WAV files. I would argue that most people can't and even many that say they can are probably just religious about it and really can't. Plus most listening environments aren't perfect. Like being in the car or subway or walking the streets or just out at the beach with friends, doing housework, or whatever. I think for the vast majority of people and environments, the MD audio is perfect. It would have been the perfect format for the 90s. What I think killed it in the US was really just the high price and the fact that CDs were finally affordable and widespread (with an ample selection of music) at the time and so they were just starting to take off with the masses around the time the MD was introduced. So it wasn't a great time to introduce yet another new format. Had they launched maybe five years sooner and had time for the prices to drop and selection to increase, I think it might have made a much bigger dent. Or alternatively had the MP3 and CD-R not become a thing by the late 90s/early 00s then I think the MD would have reached it's potential around then. Great video though :)
@HarmvonAtrak
@HarmvonAtrak 11 ай бұрын
@@roxics I agree with your point on the quality. I have never seen anyone pass the double blind test of cd vs md. If it was such a difference, why has no one ever stepped forward to show in such a test how he/she could tell what is what? No such video or report exists. MD "failed" commercially because of a multitude of factors. 1) Price 2) MD had to fight the first stages of a huge battle that eventually was won by mp3, namely the music industry fighting tooth and nail to prevent consumers making cd quality copies of music. This opposition slowed down the roll out of MD tremendously (think of retailers not carrying the product because it would harm their cd sales). Eventually, after years of legislation (SCMS for MD) and lawsuits (remember Metallica?), the music industry had to 'surrender' which opened the doors for mass adoption of 3) CD-R and MP3. Sony's understandable obsession for perfect sound quality on MD, eventually turned out hardly relevant, as the market chose inferior sound quality in the form of mp3 (in comparison to CD quality, and IMO similarly compared to MD quality) and often below par copies of CD's on CD-R.
@maximumaxiom6823
@maximumaxiom6823 11 ай бұрын
@@mykandrew I can not tell a difference
@gabrielpurves7156
@gabrielpurves7156 Жыл бұрын
In 2022 in the UK there were 18,000 MDs sold. I imagine in America this was probably 80,000.
@gabrielpurves7156
@gabrielpurves7156 Жыл бұрын
Educated industrial data percentage estimation in conjunction with physical 2022 music consumption markets
@gabrielpurves7156
@gabrielpurves7156 Жыл бұрын
With Britain and America's sales combined, you could put a MiniDisc sold on every seat in the Camp Nou (Barcelona)
@skyMcWeeds
@skyMcWeeds 9 ай бұрын
The MiniDisc the ancestor of the PSP's UMD i love those physical media
@thundercy
@thundercy Жыл бұрын
The best retro format of all by far and this is coming from a guy who still uses all (cassettes -vinyl -Cds- md)
@jeffreyroberts7438
@jeffreyroberts7438 Жыл бұрын
Found my old mini disk player, I’m surprised how good the sound quality is still!
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Its not bad at all!
@matthewjames4268
@matthewjames4268 28 күн бұрын
Cool history. Always fascinated by MD so I bought a Nakamichi MD player for my 96 Landcruiser. I miss burning music.
@binarysun_
@binarysun_ 6 ай бұрын
Streaming litteraly destroyed music and made it fast-food and it's time for people to rediscover the true value of music. I have been a huge MD-Nerd in the 00s and I always missed the format when my last Player died in like 2004/5. On my forthcoming album I will release a small batch of MD-Versions for sure. That said: I hope Sony will at some point release new MD players or something similar. Or at least free the license so that someone could create a Kickstarter. Knowing Sony though I am not holding my breath :(
@anielrivera7977
@anielrivera7977 26 күн бұрын
The USA which is a big market for tech did not realy glorify this at the time meanwhile asia and europe liked it,i liked it and went back to it in late 2023 till now
@rmt74358
@rmt74358 7 ай бұрын
I do believe that for many it will make a comeback. When all media is only digital, there are people like myself that will want to have access to physical media. Whether we backup our media or want to have a piece of retro history. Physical media will be a big deal when everything goes 100% digital.
@matro951
@matro951 Жыл бұрын
Bought a Sony mini disc player recorder when I was in the navy in 1997 at circuit city I was blown away by it
@dannyb3663
@dannyb3663 Жыл бұрын
Still using. Still loving.
@Stig007
@Stig007 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a minidisc promotional kiosk in best buy when I was little . And there was one person in my school that had a binder of minidisc
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Those were the good ole days.
@marcusfountain1694
@marcusfountain1694 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember going to JR music NYC and spending over 900. On the JA-3 ES ,how primitive it sounded in reproduction, it didn't sound as good compared to my cdp'-87es 5 disc changer. The 20-bit scheme didn't cut, it and the disc would get stuck in the ejection mechanism, which piss me off,so I destroyed the machine and never brought another. I still have about 60 disc leftovers later on. I brought the W 2000es machine, which I still use today.
@EbonyMtofmuscle
@EbonyMtofmuscle 8 ай бұрын
IMO nothing beats my Sony PS-X555ES, turntable. Being able to score that piece of tech was a dream for me.. sorry you had problems with the minidiscs, I admired Sony's innovation but along with the DAT's UMD, there was to much experimental tech that was wayyy to expensive to the average consumer, let alone a new thing to learn and transfer your media to. Thank God for the PlayStation
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 Жыл бұрын
I still have mine that I bought back in 1999. Still works.
@leonarddaneman810
@leonarddaneman810 28 күн бұрын
Got the classic MZ-R37, the advanced MZ-G750 with MDLP and AM/FM, the MZ-B100 featuring speakers and mic. One thing superior with the R37 is the dedicated audio output jack. Also have a top of the line SONY deck, and used to have the car head unit.
@edwindedios1892
@edwindedios1892 Ай бұрын
I love minidisc all different colors
@Albertino56
@Albertino56 Жыл бұрын
Ich liebe das Format und die Player! 😍👏
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Danke
@manitoublack
@manitoublack Жыл бұрын
I just wish Sony had the foresight to release minidisc as a removable storage media for PC's in the early 90's. 130MB would have been awesome in 1993 and would have easily become a defacto standard. Pity it took almost 10 years for them to figure that out with Hi-MD and by that time flash storage was well on its way.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 10 ай бұрын
Ummm… they did: MD Data, released in July 1993, held 140MB. But it was a market flop, in part because it was slooooow. MD’s raw data rate is 1x CD-ROM speed (~150KB/sec). Competing removable disk formats, most notably Iomega Zip (1994), were significantly faster (1.4MB/sec) and cheaper. And they kept at it for a while: in 1997 they sorta released MD Data2 at 650MB. (“Sorta” in that it was only used as the internal drive of one camcorder model, not as a discrete drive.) But damn, MD would have been awesome in terms of reliability and pocketability. The 2” MD is just such a nice size.
@mattfeyer8476
@mattfeyer8476 7 ай бұрын
I lived in Japan 96-99, have over 200 MD's! love them! Used a Kenwood portable CD player with optical out to record on my Pioneer MD player/recorder. The best.
@PaulDavidson-x2u
@PaulDavidson-x2u Жыл бұрын
Loved minidisc as I was regularly making compilation tapes and was happy to record in real time. I then found a digital music player and discovered the ability to rip CDs quicker and I ended up giving my MD recorder to my dad so he could record his favourite radio shows.
@mr.electronx9036
@mr.electronx9036 Ай бұрын
someone told me that those "minidisc's" could handle more data than a DVD but never came out. What we got was 1GB discs, but it was to late to the party.
@miroslavseda9136
@miroslavseda9136 Жыл бұрын
I'm listening to MD right now.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Tank_6969
@Tank_6969 Жыл бұрын
at the time it WAS the best way for portable Music, no doubt!!! being someone who used DIGITAL DATA DISC's for a Home Studio this was an Amazing and simple fast way to mix songs and or rough mixes!!! as far as making a great mix ;Tape; this wasthe best for early 2000's for sure... One thing you cannot deny is the fact the you could and can not break this kind of Disc if you tried!!! and mine was top line and only cost about 90 to 100$$$ in around 2000...
@MrA5htaroth
@MrA5htaroth Жыл бұрын
The discs themselves just go on and on and on. Really dependable.
@Madjed2024
@Madjed2024 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. Have you made the one on the new software that does the transfer to and from computer please share the link at your convenience Thank you
@mriguy35
@mriguy35 Жыл бұрын
I had multiple minidisc players/recorders as well as a minidisc deck that I hooked into my stereo to create minidiscs from my CD collection.
@JohnDobak
@JohnDobak Жыл бұрын
5:23 I'ma stop you right there. If it were so easy to get music onto one of these things MD may have gained more market share, instead you had to fight the SonicStage troll.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Sony and Apple have a knack for proprietizing most of their gear, which is incredibly frustrating because not everyone wants to use their software and their components/peripherals. So I totally understand where you are coming from. Now, the way I was able to do it, it worked. However, I know there are tons of nightmare stories out there.
@theprince08853
@theprince08853 Жыл бұрын
ATRAC was a good format. I honestly couldn't hear a difference and it saved a lot of space.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I am glad then that you can still find the tech to enjoy.
@judenihal
@judenihal 3 ай бұрын
I don't know about ATRAC, but I can tell a huge difference between KZfaq AAC and CD. I can't trust the sound quality of ATRAC.
@theprince08853
@theprince08853 3 ай бұрын
@@judenihal Yeah there's a massive difference between AAC and CD
@timmy3822
@timmy3822 3 ай бұрын
I *really* miss MiniDisc. I had a Sony recorder player my grandparents bought it for Christmas, and I fell in love with it. I used this walkman so much is ended up falling apart after some 3-4 years of daily abuse. We really need Sony to bite the bullet and make some new MD players :). I had a hifi system that I could record my CD's onto MD with, so cool. MiniDisc aside, I miss dedicated media players full stop. If Apple were to announce a new iPod model or revive the classic style player I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Digital streaming is cool, until you don't have internet access. Sure you can store them on your phone, but I quite like to 'disconnect' and go without my phone and not have that temptation for social media etc.
@ingenfestbrems
@ingenfestbrems 5 ай бұрын
Coolest format! Thinking the colors, size, disc inside a cartridge. Michael Jackson’s Dangerous art on mini disc just look awesome
@ComeJesusChrist
@ComeJesusChrist 6 ай бұрын
I love the idea and I bought 16 portable recorders and two desktop ones in the last couple of months. I have one to our young son, so he could record his own music without using a computer.
@judenihal
@judenihal 9 ай бұрын
Relic of the past. A 200 dollar portable audio recorder can record WAV audio which is far better than the compression MiniDisc uses
@just_passing_through
@just_passing_through Жыл бұрын
Still have my OEM (factory optioned) MD head-unit in my 2003 MX-5, a Sony Recording Deck in my component Hi-Fi system, and my Sony portable NetMD recorder player. (Australia).
@BenjaminKanarek
@BenjaminKanarek Жыл бұрын
I have rediscovered my like new Sharp 721 minidisc player-recorder. I have been listening to recordings I did off of my recording studio demo disks and other fun stuff. I love it and it is really like new including the remote and battery adapter.
@Tank_6969
@Tank_6969 Жыл бұрын
yea, this is what it was great for at the time!!! even now, if you use Pro-Tools ect, what do you mix it to to have a quick listen!!!
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 10 ай бұрын
I had that exact model. What an awful little thing. Those Sharp MD recorders were just so unreliable compared to Sony models.
@ericbeltrami2718
@ericbeltrami2718 Жыл бұрын
On my old-school home theater , I have a Sony minidisc player recorder in place of the dual cassette deck. It's a 1999 model MDS-J510, so it only record's in short play, short play @ 256 bits per second so that's just fine. Anything I need LP2 or LP4 I use my mz-s1 Type R.
@MrA5htaroth
@MrA5htaroth Жыл бұрын
I think that MDSP was at 292 kbps, and HIMD SP was at 256, but the reformatted disc also allowed a little less than twice as much music to be recorded. That said, the final iteration of MDSP sometimes has a more "musical" sound to the somewhat clinical (at times) presentation of HIMDSP. I understand that Sony used to try different ways of using the ATRAC lossy technology and have expert listeners actually use their ears to compare and contrast the various attempts at MDSP, but used algorithms for HI-MD, losing that human touch.
@jasonrojas2176
@jasonrojas2176 Жыл бұрын
I found my fathers Sony Walkman MiniDisc recorder with digital bass, hooked it up to my sound system, and holly shit the quality is just amazing , cumbias all day !!
@user-pg2bj7rv1t
@user-pg2bj7rv1t 7 ай бұрын
IF anyone on here has ever heard of the HRCD-(High Resolution Compact Disc), I am the man who invented it. I was led to the higher resolution processing for CDs THROUGH my Engineering research into minidisc Tech. I found a way to Manipulate SONY'S ATRAC coding. When I met the US Rep for Sony at the 2006 Consumer Electronics Show, the ONLY words he said to me were these: The Company is aware of you and they don't like you". I took that as a compliment! I tell people I can produce a Minidisc that its audio will outperform DVD Audio, and I CAN DELIVER!
@mykandrew
@mykandrew 6 ай бұрын
Let’s chat mike@hypehive.io
@TraceyMeli
@TraceyMeli Ай бұрын
A cd you cant scratch, im all for it :)
@Yummers_310
@Yummers_310 Жыл бұрын
I had MD when it was launched, loved it straight away and was sad that it failed.
@doubleT84
@doubleT84 8 ай бұрын
I love MD. I got one in 2002, I think. I could go running with it, I think that was one of the main reasons. I also recorded live DJ sessions on the radio. There was one DJ that would play remixes that were really hard to get, back then. I think I still have MDs with some remixes of songs that I might be the only person still having a record of.
@aaronfitzgerald9109
@aaronfitzgerald9109 9 ай бұрын
I have heaps on Minidisc players, it's seems futuristic but retro at the same time
@jjmaldo_usa
@jjmaldo_usa Жыл бұрын
I love Minidisc format. I have a minidisc deck an a portable unit.
@peterlundskow4061
@peterlundskow4061 Жыл бұрын
I bought one & used it a lot and recorded lots of music. I still have the discs but my player broke. I did like it.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
It's was an interesting format. Had it provided CD quality from the start, it could have gone a lot further I believe.
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew I never thought it was the lack of CD quality that did for MiniDisc. The prohibitive cost of the equipment was a major factor. The second real issue was the RIAA really didn't like the fact that CDs could be copied and had major court cases to prevent it going to market.
@BorealBlizzard
@BorealBlizzard 7 ай бұрын
MDs are still so futuristic. Looking at stuff like cyberpunk media, MDs still fit and its awesome
@frankhernandez133
@frankhernandez133 Жыл бұрын
The MD players made such a hit with the fact of the players being the audio recorders & were portable. So, a simple input/output connection was/is required. No computer needed & when finished recording, the music/audio was ready to play!
@Jewellerybybarrie
@Jewellerybybarrie Жыл бұрын
Great video and a good introduction to the joys of MD..... I have a portable player/recorder and use it to make a copy of all new vinyl I buy, at the same time I copy the vinyl to cassette and reel to reel (sad I know) The size of the MD is greta for travelling and I can have a collection of various bands or a disc of just one band in a good quality.... Although my goto is still a walkman from 2002...
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
That's a great use case. You should try vinyl to VHS on a HiFi stereo vcr
@MrA5htaroth
@MrA5htaroth Жыл бұрын
May I ask what MD deck you record to, the codec you use, and how you feel the result compares to cassette? I don't know anything about reel to reel, but I assume that sounds like near perfect reproduction? Do you use ferric or chrome or metal cassettes? I am a big user of HI-MD, owning the Onkyo Intec 275 with an imported MD-133 (Hi-MD) deck, and feel that my results of recording vinyl to that format are very good. I am curious about the cassette revival, though, and wondered if a magnetic medium could do better than a digital, assuming quality components at all stages of the recording.
@Jewellerybybarrie
@Jewellerybybarrie Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew Ive been looking at this lately just as another format. In the early 90's I worked for Technicolor in video duplication and already knew it was possible to run just Audio. But you need a decent tape and a high end player/recorder... Might look around to see what I can do.. Would have to be a Uk player as US ones audio encoder is not as good (and they were NTSC not PAL).....
@marcusa.rivera6377
@marcusa.rivera6377 7 ай бұрын
I still got and used them. HiFi sound quality in atrac 3. Toslink optical communication since the early 90's
@maximumaxiom6823
@maximumaxiom6823 11 ай бұрын
I was the only one in my school and later in university who had an MD player back in 2000-2003, I absolutely loved the thing. And as a student I worked in record store, and had access to copy whatever music I wanted. Now it is about collecting pre-recorded discs, I have a collection of about 100 pre-recorded MD's (rock, alternative rock, music i like) but I am not interested in likes of Madona, Sade, Britney Spears and other pop/adult pop discs. In past 5 years I had pretty much every Sony portable MD player (now I have about 15 left) and i still have my very first one MZ-R37 that i bought in 2000 (heavily and proudly worn - squeezed out every last bit of it). MD to me is me being 17-20 years old, to me it is more than just an old tech....also the memories MD brings to me.
@redbishop71
@redbishop71 Жыл бұрын
The vinyls are here! The cassette tapes are coming back, some artists are releasing new albums in cassette tapes.
@djwreck1200
@djwreck1200 7 ай бұрын
we use to use minidiscs for shows at the station i work at. we moved on but now i got a huge md deck and BOXES of discs lol 🤷🏽‍♂️
@theno1deejay
@theno1deejay 4 ай бұрын
I'm a dj who wanna record my mixes, but the dj software won't let you record the mixes when using music from a streaming service (copyright). MD´s let me record in realtime with (almost) cd quality.
@judenihal
@judenihal 3 ай бұрын
you can get a solid state tascam portable recorder which records onto Micro SD and can record lossless
@notsorandumusername
@notsorandumusername 9 ай бұрын
I'm one of those people who still use and love the MiniDisc format. Very convenient, especially for recording of radio (yes, that still exists) or internetstreams. I like to record livesets with it. And it's magical edit functions make it a breeze to cut out commercials or DJ quack. The deleted stuff then can be used to record again seamlessly as it if were at the end of the disc. Philips made one of it's biggest blunders ever by holding on to the then 30-year-old cassette format for the DCC. Don't get me wrong, I love cassettes as much as MiniDisc, but by the early nineties even a child could understand the magneto-optical disc like the CD with it's instant track playing was the way to go - not the slow and sluggish cassette. Apparently only the boffins and leadership at Philips could not understand that. What they did get right though was the sound quality: the first generation of DCC sounded better than the first generation of MD. Imagine if Sony and Philips had continued to team up like they did for CD and had created a combined MD format with the specs and technology as Sony saw fit, but with the superior PASC audio compression of DCC and Philips. That would have immediately become a worldwide standard and would eventually completely have replaced cassettes. It would over time have improved further with higher capacity disks, better audio compression (PASC 2.0 etc) and made it's way into the world of PC's too. It would still be a much used audio standard today used for internetstreaming and digital broadcast as well. But alas, that was never to be.
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
I started buying MiniDiscs about 4 years ago and have accumulated about 40 from the very first MZ-1 to my HiMD MZ-RH910. A lot of my machines are even still with the original packaging and accessories but, I have noticed that, the prices started to shoot up about a year ago. I paid, on average, £50 a machine although the HiMD models pushed that average up. I suppose now is the time to start selling a few, but I do like them and go through phases of using different ones. I know it's not the most advanced or the smallest machine that I own but, I keep returning to the MZ-R35 as it has the best sound, the best amplification, has a full metal body and the battery life is more than 12 hours.
@chuheihkg
@chuheihkg Жыл бұрын
My first trip is already HI-MD, as being claimed as a small DAT recorder when in need, it is likely ten years ago. I used to use RH1, I ended with MZ-NH900 after RH1 is beyond repair. I am looking something in NETMD after figuring how to get around with UEFI.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
The more rare they get, the more expensive they will be. I would say right now would be a good time to buy ones that are still in the box, because in 10 more years they will likely go bulls for sure!
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew I thought I'd finished buying and then I bought another two this week, one boxed, one not.
@carcuev
@carcuev Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew uhmm the problem with the rare ones, is the reparability ... I have a few of them, but I think the tougher ones are MZ-N505/N510 those ones are cheap (still because prices are rising ... ) they are using an AA battery and there are sounding quite nicely, there are many spare parts in case will be needed... and you have LP and NetMD :)
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew I recently got an MZ-E20, marketed as the MZ-E40 in the States, because it has a different look to it from all my other players. It runs on two AA batteries, the rechargeable 2800 mAh ones do a really good job, and to my absolute delight, is one of the best sounding MiniDisc players that I now own. It doesn't have MDLP but that is a small price to pay when it sounds as good as it does.
@MrA5htaroth
@MrA5htaroth Жыл бұрын
I listened to a high quality recording (Spotify through a DAC onto an Onkyo Hi-MD deck at 256 KBPS) on my Hi-MD Walkman, the MZ-NH1, and onto reference headphones. The sound quality was astounding, revealed much, and was much easier on the ear than listening from my Xperia phone through Sony WF1000XM4. In terms of portable sound, I have not yet found anything close to the quality that my 25 year old minidisc player / recorder produces. Yeah, it's not audiophile, but it is good. If you want "music on the go" quality that nevertheless presents a good sound stage and separation, 64kbps on ATRAC 3+ on a 1GB disc is acceptable, and gives you about 30-40 albums per disc, or, say, 50-60 symphonies or concertos if that is your bag. This means that with 40 1GB discs (as I have) you can easily have everything you might possibly want of your music collection available to you at this resolution, with a few special albums saved for close listening at a higher resolution of sound. ATRAC 64kbps was said to be equivalent to MP3 at 128 kbps, and before you are physically sick with the thought of listening at that quality, the amp in the device and the dac were of very high quality (at least on the flagship models), really compensating a lot.
@catvaska1627
@catvaska1627 Жыл бұрын
like! )) I have in my collection two mini disc decks and three players. And also - pieces of 200 mini discs with records
@j.t.cooper2963
@j.t.cooper2963 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻😎 I still have and use my Sony MD-R37 recorder/player.
@bobsbits5357
@bobsbits5357 10 ай бұрын
hi you are very right about the decks i am a tec i am finding there's alot of sold as parts and some of my old MD units ate not working never bin them as long as the drive is ok keep it as spare parts i had a MD when they came out £7 for a disc only the big music shops were selling them je501 edit buttons under a panel right pain i know it was coming of all the time like the sony c9 betamax
@shaun2133
@shaun2133 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know of quick way to get media off your minidiscs onto a hard drive? I have dozens of blank discs that I recorded my original music onto back in the aughts. I still have a working player but I know how to get music off there by using analog means.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 10 ай бұрын
You can use a MD player with digital output (which is most models) and use a PC sound interface with digital input. It’s still a pain in the ass to do, and unfortunately there’s no way to speed it up. It’s certainly not worth the effort for songs you can procure elsewhere. But for your original recordings, a digital transfer is the way to go. Many portable MD players have a combination analog and optical digital 3.5mm line out jack (mini-TOSLink). Most (maybe all) of the home decks have a full-size optical TOSLink output, and some high-end decks have a coaxial digital output as well.
@sirena7116
@sirena7116 10 ай бұрын
I love my MD player/recorder.
@Paulo_5002_
@Paulo_5002_ Жыл бұрын
I got the Sony MZ-R55 portable recorder. And still working. :)
@antoniojosevieiraoliveira3981
@antoniojosevieiraoliveira3981 Жыл бұрын
minidisc is more live than ever
@matthewlewis9356
@matthewlewis9356 9 ай бұрын
I still use mini disk these days and DVDs as well
@SunnysideViews
@SunnysideViews Жыл бұрын
Minidisc forever!
@ericbeltrami2718
@ericbeltrami2718 Жыл бұрын
SONY MDZ S1. Minidisc is the perfect recording format, even in type R LP2 recording, which allows you to put 160 minutes on one disc, it sounds as good CD, you just have to record in analog. Digital mp3... not so much. I use a Aiwa xrs 3 stereo, running auxiliary through that and the Q chip the xrs 3 is equipped with in to my Sony Type R MZ-S1. This enhances the sound for recording. Ive even recorded type R LP4 and it sounds good. It's the perfect format, you can get a high MD which allows you to put 1000 songs on one disc in high-quality sound. Even uncompressed you can fit over 10 hours worth of music. What happened was all the licensing for music industry screwed it up for Hi-fi recording at home.
@Obi_Swagg_Kenobi
@Obi_Swagg_Kenobi 2 ай бұрын
Could you tell me how long you can record with lp4 on 1 disc. I have 3 discs right now, and i'm trying to record as much music as I can on each one of them 😅
@AA-ws3vd
@AA-ws3vd Жыл бұрын
I have a handful of MDs that I need a good deck for. Need to get one imported probably.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
They are out there. Check ebay and Mercari!
@AA-ws3vd
@AA-ws3vd Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew Thanks Mike! I'll definitely check them.
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
I got a Sony MDS-JE330 for free thrown in with a load of new blank MiniDiscs that I bought off of eBay. It was, and is, in perfect working order, complete with the remote control. Only down side is it doesn't support MDLP but, I tend to record most of my discs in SP mode anyway.
@AA-ws3vd
@AA-ws3vd Жыл бұрын
@@ianz9916 that's great Ian
@tonyjuliano1
@tonyjuliano1 Жыл бұрын
If you are looking for a decent deck, your best option is an Onkyo MD-105TX. These were primarily sold as adjuncts to excellent micro systems popular in Japan. Don’t confuse this with the MD-105FX (a hi-md device) or the MD-105X (non MDLP model). I would stay away from ANY hi-md device, the hi-md media is impossible to get, and crazy expensive. I’d also stay away from any non-mdlp device, as the LP2 mode is pretty good. Regular MD80 discs are still widely available for $2-3 a piece. The MD-105TX are plentiful on eBay, for good prices from Japan.
@cho4d
@cho4d 8 ай бұрын
MD with the best microphone you can afford provided unreal quality portable recording.
@8BitNaptime
@8BitNaptime 7 ай бұрын
I got the MZ-1 almost the month it came out in the US. I regret selling all my MD stuff...
@90080603
@90080603 4 ай бұрын
- "Trust your ears"... I have several audiophile friends that had to admit they can't tell the MD from CD after blind test. So good is the MD format. And the format is briliant to copy LPs to. You can play and copy your collecteable LPs. And you can still listen to them, and yes they sounds like LPS even after copyed to MD. This is maybe why collecters of LPs will embrase the format. They just needs someone to introduce it for them. hint hint
@Obi_Swagg_Kenobi
@Obi_Swagg_Kenobi 2 ай бұрын
Could you tell me what is the best format to record (lp2 or lp4). I have only 3 minidiscs, so I want as much music. Thanks in advance 👍
@coolduder1001
@coolduder1001 Жыл бұрын
Why does no one think of DAT when looking at DCC vs MD. When you think about that you remember that sony basically already made DCC but better in 1987, it was smaller, seeked faster, and was already in the market. Can say MD is still alive, mainly because you can't buy a new laser or new md deck anymore. This still upsets me as there are plenty of players that work fine but the lasers are dead.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 10 ай бұрын
DAT used a far, far more complex tape transport than DCC. (DAT is essentially a micro VCR, with a spinning helical-scan head and everything!) Though it never happened, it would have been possible to shrink DCC players to the tiny size of high end analog cassette Walkman models. That is categorically impossible with DAT, since the head assembly and tape loading mechanism limit the minimum thickness. Anyhow, MD was designed to be better than DAT while being significantly cheaper (which it did ultimately accomplish). But above all, the music industry fought _HARD_ to keep DAT down. They grudgingly accepted MD and DCC because the lossy compression meant that analog copies would get worse and worse from generation to generation. (DAT is uncompressed, so generational loss from analog copies is very, very small. DAT, MD, and DCC all use the same copy protection on their digital ports.)
@metaljoe9088
@metaljoe9088 9 ай бұрын
The best format MiniDisc
@HobbitDowneyJr
@HobbitDowneyJr Жыл бұрын
this sonicstage 4.3, need any drivers? same time as webmd to burn a disc?
@ianz9916
@ianz9916 Жыл бұрын
You have to temporarily disable the Driver Signature Enforcement in the BIOS to allow the drivers to be installed but after the first time it works fine. I use it on both a W11 and a W10 PC.
@maiky0182
@maiky0182 Жыл бұрын
I got a perfect mdlp player for 40euros and 19 recordable minidisc for 20 euro :) i’m so happy . It’s like a cyberpunk technology .
@miguelmontoya
@miguelmontoya 8 ай бұрын
If think the goal for the music lovers and future of formats will be to paid direct to musicians. Record labels and streaming services will die, soon we will be able to build our own ethical system.
@johnnyquid-xj4kk
@johnnyquid-xj4kk Жыл бұрын
Had a couple of those players, the Sony low end ones and it was great for copying from my computer, but the software was glitchy.
@chuheihkg
@chuheihkg Жыл бұрын
It is difficult to say. It is believed the being is very likely relic more than others as some key softwares such as ATRAC SP experimental encode is already made by society based on published papers.
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
I think thie MiniDisc will always be a fun novelty but not used as a relevant or high quality means to listen to music.
@chuheihkg
@chuheihkg Жыл бұрын
@@mykandrew It looks like the question is about men , not that.
@AlTheEngineer
@AlTheEngineer 6 ай бұрын
I've been wanting to get into MiniDisc for a year now .... but I am stuck on which player to get .... I really want a Hi MD model, but I know most of them use an OLED display which is known to go bust eventually. So in your opinion, what's the most reliable Hi MD player out there? I don't really care much about the cost as much as I care about it lasting a long time. It would suck to buy a model with an OLED display and then it just dies and I have no recourse / replacement parts for it.
@gerritw.rougoor663
@gerritw.rougoor663 8 ай бұрын
I always liked the media MD there are so much possibilities it's almost to much to mention
@Bobby_Snoof
@Bobby_Snoof Жыл бұрын
Today we use web minidisc and platinum MD !
@mykandrew
@mykandrew Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@packrat-y7j
@packrat-y7j 10 ай бұрын
Im in several of those same groups, and still rocking an MD player for specific requirements. I was never a huge fan of cds.
@requiem6465
@requiem6465 10 ай бұрын
Always felt like the UMD used by the PSP was based off the Mini-Disc.
@ricenoodles632
@ricenoodles632 3 ай бұрын
Portable MD machines tend to sound better than portable CD players during the time of the late 90s and in the early 2000s. PCDPs were highly inconsistent in sound output regardless of brand.
@Capturing-Memories
@Capturing-Memories 9 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Web MiniDisc? I can't post a link, YT keeps deleting my comments.
@lenb7275
@lenb7275 Жыл бұрын
I had mini disc for a while
@Lennyjr2
@Lennyjr2 Жыл бұрын
I want a minidisc drive to put in to iTunes
@WidowUK
@WidowUK 7 ай бұрын
I love my mini disk players I have a Sony home player that llp and is compatible with my two portable mini disk players and I also have a car mini disk player that’s never been out of its box as the modern car has caused issues with user being able to fit there own stereo systems as there pre fitted now and this sucks badly so I have to use my portable mini disc player plugged in through the jack port in the car or via a Bluetooth adapter for my citreon
@premkenneth9250
@premkenneth9250 9 ай бұрын
is like a cyberpunk relic
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