Minn Kota 12v vs. 24v (Pt. 1) On The Water Comparison

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Valley Marine Boats - Here's an on the water comparison video showing the power & performance difference of a Minn Kota 12v package vs. a 24v Package - www.yvmarine.com/ or Call 866-888-1021. This boat is for sale near central Washington. Valley Marine is a full service boat dealership in Union Gap, WA. We service new and used boat buyers looking for family boats, pontoons and we specialize in fishing boats for the Northwest and central Washington. Many of our boaters fish the Columbia River, Lake Roosevelt, Potholes Reservoir, Banks Lake, Lake Chelan, and Moses Lake. Our customer base reaches the communities of Yakima, Wenatchee, Tri-Cities, Moses Lake and all cities in between. Whether you are doing some fishing with your kid in an aluminum fishing boat like our Lunds, Lowes, and Crestliners or prefer a welded boat like our Duckworth North River or Weldcraft, Valley Marine has you covered. If fishing isn’t your thing try some family boating on one of our new Lowe pontoons. Also, we are now a Mastercraft Dealership. Valley Marine has the new or used boat to fit your needs with over 40 boats on site. Our dealership has serviced over 40,000 boaters since 1954 and Valley Marine is a must stop boat dealership when looking to own a new fishing boat or pontoon. With Yamaha, Mercury and Honda outboard service technicians and a helpful and friendly staff, they will treat you like family. Our boats are powered with Mercury, Honda and Yamaha outboards and a few MerCruiser and Volvo Penta stern drives. Our No Sales Pressure Guarantee means you can give us a call or stop in our dealership in Union Gap, just outside of Yakima to talk boats and see if we have a new or used Lund, Lowe, Hewescraft, Weldcraft, North River, Mastercraft, Smoker Craft, Tracker Marine, Thunder Jet, Northwest Boats, Northwest Jet, Jon boat, fish and ski, pontoon, welded boat, aluminum boat or family boat to suit your needs. We want to ensure which ever boat type if right for you: bow rider, deck boat, pontoon, boat, pontoon, deck boat that you are a Valley Marine family member for a long time to come.

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@ezm6153 2 жыл бұрын

I love all these expert comments from all these electrical engineers in the comments below. If you all want to know what real life is - here it is - my 12v system lasted my 5-6 trolling. I upgraded to a 24v system and I'm getting EASILY 14-16 hours on it (over 2 days at the lake). Same boat, same lake, same everything. That's REAL LIFE. Sounds to me like it's roughly 3 times maybe approaching 4 times the duration (but not quite). REAL LIFE is all that counts for me.

@georgeelder8415 7 ай бұрын

Are these 24 volt motors not much more efficient, eg. Brushless?

@sha6mm 10 ай бұрын

Great Information

@mnesporek 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video guys but I'm pretty sure you're out with your maths regarding the run time. Assuming your 12v battery and 2 x 12v batteries in the 24v setup are all the same capacity you are only going to get roughly 2x longer rather than the stated 4x longer running time. This is because both setups will still have the same amp hour rating as your doubling your voltage not amperage on the 24v system (when running 2x 12v batteries in series). The 24v will have roughly half the draw at same power output compared to the 12v. In practice your 24v will run more efficiently than the 12v particularly at high power outputs thus delivering slightly longer run time than just 2x. I went through this dilemma 3 months ago. Initially buying a 12v before exchanging for a 24v just prior to install on a 5.75m aluminum v-hull. Could not be happier. The boat can hold a spot against strong current and wind all day and never dropped below 50% of charge on the 24v 110aH setup. Only issue is weight. TM + 2 batteries + on board charger = 100kg.

@okiefreemen 3 жыл бұрын

the 24V setup will run at lower amperage to the motors which takes advantage of improved efficiency. So you will get more than double the run time for the same conditions because the motors will be running at half the amperage for the same power which will have higher efficiency and less losses.

@boltactionshooter 3 жыл бұрын

@@okiefreemen mnesporek addresses efficiency. He is correct, what these guys claim of 4 times as much is just plain FALSE. This is not magic. If you ran a 12v system with 2 batteries in parallel then the 24v setup with 2 batteries would only run slightly longer due to effciency and no where even close to twice as long.

@okiefreemen 3 жыл бұрын

@@boltactionshooter no your still wrong.. the 12v achieving the same thrust as the 24V would have to run at full power which is not just a little worse efficiency, it is alot.. real world proves it out.. the 24V system with same amp hours will get around 40% longer run life. Not double we agree, but it's not just a little bit more it's alot.

@boltactionshooter 3 жыл бұрын

@@okiefreemen Well these cats are saying 4 times longer which is flat out false..

@okiefreemen 3 жыл бұрын

@@boltactionshooter true... But real world exp can be different than the number.. some situations, wind curre t12v would have to be on all the time or not enough,, and 24v may only be on as needed

@brunoaragon3290 2 жыл бұрын

What is the trolling motor shaft length on both boats? Currently considering buying a trolling motor for a 16' Lowe.

@joel1964. 3 жыл бұрын

Good video 📹👍

@roymcpherson7487 3 жыл бұрын

What speed did the Terrova 80 achieve? Curious.

@hunter815 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison and analyses.

@ValleyMarine1 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it

@dougmorford2011 3 жыл бұрын

@@ValleyMarine1 I thought it was pretty misleading.

@solidsnake4022 3 жыл бұрын

Darn it. What was their top speed at max throttle?

@frankblack3727 5 ай бұрын

What is the difference in weight between the two?

@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644 3 жыл бұрын

Depends too on lake or river, I fish mainly river so went with 36 volt setup even though it's more costly but it's worth it when dealing with river current. 24 volt should be minimum on anything but the smallest stripped down boat.

@tomh9391 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised nobody's brought up 6 volt commercial / utility high amp hour deep cycle batteries. You get 2 to 10 times to run time depending on the type of 6 volt battery and you just run them in series to get your 12 volts and you can always run a set of two with another set of two and parallel to quadruple your amp hour output. I work on motorhomes as well as other equipment at my repair shop and everybody who's ever gone with my advice for a 6-volt battery storage system in their camper or boat are extremely happy with it because you could make the same amount of voltage last way longer sure it weighs a little bit extra and it takes up a little bit more storage space but the amp hour output and potential storage the whole way out do any deep cycle or marine 12 volt standard battery.

@Paulxj- 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your video. Here is a question for you. I am building a 16' aluminum tiller boat to be used in an area with a 25HP limit. I am trying to be very conscious of weight so that the boat can get on plane with three people fishing in it. I was thinking of using the 12 volt Minn Kota Terrova and an optima battery. In you opinion, what can I expect the run time on a single charge to be, say operating at 50% or better?

@ValleyMarine1 3 жыл бұрын

Most 16ft aluminum tillers (Lund 1600 Fury for example) will run and plane just fine with a 25hp motor. Additionally, having two deep cycle batteries up in the bow will actually help the boat to be more stable because the weight is distributed better. In a tiller setup like you are considering, a high percentage of the weight is in the transom. If the boat is floating bow high, it will catch more wind. You want the boat to be level so that the chine has some bite.

@sharonbraselton4302 2 жыл бұрын

eltric baykiner

@landonhilton8845 3 жыл бұрын

2x longer rather than 4. It all comes down to watts consumed. Both motors will consume roughly the same amount of watts however there could be minimal efficiency gains on the 24 volt system.

@ValleyMarine1 3 жыл бұрын

Its 2x longer with 2 batteries. I'm assuming 4 times longer when you are running the 12 volt motor on only 1 battery.

@drister007 Жыл бұрын

@@ValleyMarine1 Wrong! 12V motor with 2 batteries in paralel compared to 24V with 2 batteries in series (to get 24V) will run basically the same! Maybe around 10 % longer run time on 24V because you would have a little less losses on cables. CERTAINLY not 4 itmes as long. YOur math is wrong mate.

@drister007 Жыл бұрын

@@ValleyMarine1 The only time it would be 4 times as long on 24V system would be IF you would run 24V system on 12V battery (but then you would get 4 times less power, and also 4 times longer run time). BUT if you run both system at the same power then the run time will be the roughly same (m aybe around 10 % longer run time on 24V because you would have a little less losses on cables).

@MrSki-mv2kr Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about brushed versus brushless. Brushless is way more efficient because it's variable speed. In this video they used a 55 lb 12v brushed versus a 80 lb 24v brushless which will equate to 4 times longer. This doesn't account for prop size which does make a slight difference in efficiency. I'm also lmao because you really don't understand motor size and amps by size. According to what you said they both pull same amount of power???? Top amps for 55 lb is about 52 amps versus 80 lbs is 72 amps. Your a mathematical idiot.

@sniperviperful Жыл бұрын

He may have twice the battery but the same capacity when in series.

@markcantu8611 6 ай бұрын

My first thought is your comparing apples to oranges.. PowerDrive vs Terrova.

@Sledgefist1 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering why this looked like Banks Lake…

@gerlanribeirodearaujo4827 4 жыл бұрын

Eu quero um desses.

@hunter815 4 жыл бұрын

Eu penso em adaptar num jon boat, um motor potente 24v de bicicleta, e achar boas baterias de litio. Agradeço se tiver dicas. Abraço.

@FishTech-ys3ie 3 ай бұрын

This is like comparing white Minn Kota to black one

@tkordik Жыл бұрын

One caveat for 12V Minn Kota users - you will get more power and run time with a LiFePO4 battery over a flooded or AGM deep cycle!

@mainetroutwhisperer 3 жыл бұрын

What about price... lol that’s why I got the 12V just get 2 batteries and run them in parallel and she’ll go all day long

@ValleyMarine1 3 жыл бұрын

Going from 12 volts to 24 volts only adds $150. When you increase the voltage on the motor (12v to 24v) you reduce amp draw accordingly. The 24 volt will go twice as long on the same two batteries as a 12 volt with the same two batteries run in parallel.

@drister007 Жыл бұрын

@@ValleyMarine1 Not true. The 24 volt will go THE SAME time on the same two batteries as a 12 volt with the same two batteries run in parallel.

@drister007 Жыл бұрын

@@ValleyMarine1 Assuming your 12v battery and 2 x 12v batteries in the 24v setup are all the same capacity you are only going to get roughly 2x longer rather than the stated 4x longer running time. This is because both setups will still have the same amp hour rating as your doubling your voltage not amperage on the 24v system (when running 2x 12v batteries in series). The 24v will have roughly half the draw at same power output compared to the 12v. In practice your 24v will run more efficiently than the 12v particularly at high power outputs thus delivering slightly longer run time than just 2x..

@dfgdfg_ 2 жыл бұрын

3.3mph at 50% and downstream on the high lbs motor. Hrm.

@gerardhaubert8210 4 жыл бұрын

You have to use two of the same boat and same trolling motor,,,,,not a proper test

@buzgentry1012 2 жыл бұрын

Trolling motor on a pontoon boat

@dangkhang9479 9 ай бұрын

Hate manufacture for being a** hole for adding unnecessary 12v trolling motor as a package. I do notice my 12v motor life lasting more than double with 2 battery.

@shaunhalfacre6606 Жыл бұрын

How about using the same size boat lol good video though

@ValleyMarine1 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the input. The issue with the same size boat is having two in stock that have the different set ups. We definitely try to get the boats as close in size as possible.

@Bugs11000 Жыл бұрын

The speed of the trolling motor doesn't matter. Like it says, it's a trolling motor. 2 miles an hour is a good speed to troll. Even a 40 pound thrust motor will give you that speed. It's not worth spending a lot of money on a trolling motor, it's only made to troll.

@aarongetsyoked6099 Жыл бұрын

Incorrect.

@MrSki-mv2kr Жыл бұрын

This video is completely apples and oranges. 1st is the two are completely different motors brushed versus brushless. 2nd is amp draw with variable speed versus set speed. Just these 2 factor's a lone should make you never view, listen or take advise from salesmen dumbbells. What makes me qualified on this is my understanding of power, back-up systems amp and volt distribution that I had to engineer in multiple places during war time communication battle locations for Generals and other command teams.

@ValleyMarine1 Жыл бұрын

We appreciate your input. We realize they are different motors which is the purpose of the video. Boats are typically sold with the 12V motor and we are explain the advantages of the 24V . We want to show the average consumer why they would want to do this upgrade regardless how they are built.