Minor II V I - Getting The Most Out Of The Basics

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@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Do you use these ideas? Should I try to make more videos on just a single chord? Content: 0:00 Intro 0:20 5 - examples with Scales, Arpeggios, and Patterns, 0:45 Example #1 - m7b5 arpeggios Everywhere! 0:49 The Minor 2 5 1 Progression 2:25 Example #1 Slow 2:30 Example #2 Maj7 and Dim Arpeggios 2:34 Diatonic Arpeggios that work well! 4:08 Example #2 Slow 4:14 Example #3 - Triad solutions 4:19 Coltrane Patterns 5:22 Diatonic triads and the Augmented Triad 5:54 Example #3 Slow 6:21 Example #4 - Dim(Maj7) 6:26 Finding New Material and Combining material 7:29 Example #4 Slow 7:35 Example #5 - The Magic Chord! 7:40 The Magic Chord as an Arpeggio 9:13 Example #5 Slow 9:19 Like the Video? Check out My Patreon Page

@Jiv_Ing57819 4 жыл бұрын

I'm going to need videos on a single note [:] 0

@bluetrainlocomotion 4 жыл бұрын

The best online jazz lessons on the internet available - youtube!! Exact to the point explanations (great stuff!). A giant step for my playing! Thank you so much Jens Larsen!

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you you very much 🙂 Glad you like the videos

@12miracles58 5 жыл бұрын

A big revelation for me was to play the coltrane pattern in all inversions. 1. C D E G 2. D E G C 3. E G C D 4. G C D E Learned so much from your amazing channel wish you all the best and never give up on youtube jazz will bloom only more new musicians are coming for subscribing and learning from you 😉🎺

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I never really used inversions on Coltrane Patterns that much. I don't think he did either, not that that is really important :)

@downhill240 5 жыл бұрын

Great comment. I too think highly of Jens skills and ability to teach!

@dkwvt13 5 жыл бұрын

Great ideas, super timely, I am working up Stolen Moments for our Sunday jam. This will go right to work...! Thank You, as usual!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing! (and a great song!)

@LukeBrouillette 5 жыл бұрын

I"ve been waiting for this topic - thanks!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! 🙂

@ericdealmeida169 4 жыл бұрын

Loving this one! Cant wait to work on more of this material

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eric! Go for it 🙂

@KmeleoNCL 4 жыл бұрын

I'm playin Dear old stockholm (Paul Chambers version) with my bro and this video helped me a lot to understand minor II V I, even though the II v I's on that song are way shorter... thank you a lot ur videos are great!

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you can put it to use like that 🙂

@CJLee-rf2fl 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Jens, Thank you for sharing such useful and inspired information.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you find it useful 🙂

@ReileyWilliams 5 жыл бұрын

You always seem to know what I'm currently working on in my jazz guitar endeavors! Thanks for the outstanding content!!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's luck on my part, but great that it works out :)

@RC32Smiths01 5 жыл бұрын

Ahh very interesting and valuable lesson indeed my man! Great lesson to see for someone still in the basics!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it! 🙂

@RC32Smiths01 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen Indeed my man! Great work as always!

@danielteixeira9799 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome idea....tks master

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it 🙂

@SkwisgaarScampini 5 жыл бұрын

Great ideas...can't wait to dig into this later

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@mannoplanet 5 жыл бұрын

I liked this a lot. I seem to incapable of playing another person's lines but this gave lots of concepts. And I seem to have found an easier way to play Night in Tunisia!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it Doug! I think you are often better off trying to make music with the material itself.

@DESIENASHOES 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting lesson_ Harmonic Minor scale it is always good to refresh_

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Harmonic minor is important!

@moa643 5 жыл бұрын

Great lesson as always Jens, great tips. I was wondering if you have already made a video on Coltrane changes, specifically their application on guitar? I would love to dig into his style, but I'm not sure what ideas to start with. Anyways, thanks for the great help as always and please continue to make more!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Coltrane chages are not in any way specific to an instrument, in fact they are very closely related to a I VI II V, and not much more difficult to play over :) Here are a few videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbOBpMSl26_Re30.html

@brad724p 5 жыл бұрын

Great one, Jens; love these kinds of lessons! An unrelated questions: Is the natural 4 of a maj7 chord always considered an avoid note, even as an off-beat 'passing' note for example?

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Avoic notes are not too important. The only thing you don\t want to do is to really land on it for a long period of time or give it a lot of emphasis in the melody. You can easily use it in a melody

@brad724p 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jens; that's been my take on it too. Appreciated.

@anthonydemitre9392 5 жыл бұрын

yes, a video on the minor 7 b5 to the dom 7th would be nice, I've seen many ways to look at it, maybe too many ways Lol,

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Ok. I am not sure I really follow :) Is this video not on m7b5 to dom7th? And if you have seen too many ways why do you then want more?

@anthonydemitre9392 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I meant more videos on minors II V I's, the 2d part of my statement was not literal, hence the Lol

@davidtardio9804 5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, as usual! From the first example it sounds like if you wanted to be motivic you could play something with the D half diminished in the first measure and then play the same (or very similar) idea using F half diminished over the G7. Question: what is so "magic" about the magic chord?

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I guess I didn't feel like playing it too similar, those types of melodic motifs can be a bit on the obvious side as well. The Magic chord is called like that because it is very flexible and sounds great for a lot of different chords. Here's a very old video on the topic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jb6PdbV21NDWkqM.html

@Bobby007D 3 жыл бұрын

Jens , which thin-line guitar do you prefer ? The Ibanez , the Gibson or the Epiphone ? I like my German made Hofner very-thin.

@bronzewand 5 жыл бұрын

The m7b5 was never really an issue for me. Where I have trouble is the dominant chord usually being a 7b9 and then resolving to a m6 I chord. Where the II and the V chord both use the b6 of the I chord I find it difficult to smoothly resolve to a m6 I chord

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Well, you don't have to resolve the b9 of the dominant to the maj6th on the tonic. Just resolve it down to the 5th like it always does :)

@bronzewand 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen That's what I usually end up doing! I've just never really been able to work that natural 6 in there in a nice way. Going to learn these licks over the long weekend! Thanks again for everything Jens

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I think you can better resolve to the 6th via the major 3rd of the Dominant?

@JohnnyOskam 4 ай бұрын

Quick question, is the i chord always a m6 chord? Seems like you use that a lot in your examples, but aren't there a lot of situations when it's just a m7 or or a m(maj7) too? In that case you wouldn't have to use melodic minor correct? It would just go between natural and harmonic minor right?

@JensLarsen 4 ай бұрын

m6 and mMaj7 are the same thing and both are melodic minor. There can be places where it is a m7 chord, but 90% of the time that is then when the minor II V is not used on a song that is in minor but as a secondary II V

@JohnnyOskam 4 ай бұрын

@@JensLarsen m6 and m(maj7) are not the same thing. You don't have to use melodic minor over a m(maj7), you can just use harmonic minor, since the 6th is not in the chord. So I guess your answer to my question is that usually in jazz, when in a minor key, the i chord is a m6 chord. I'm not knowledgeable in jazz. I'm coming from the neoclassical metal side. That makes sense about the m7 being used in secondary ii Vs. In classical music though, a lot of times after a V7 it will resolve to a minor triad and you can return to natural minor. That's why I'm asking about this.

@JensLarsen 4 ай бұрын

@@JohnnyOskam Yes, I am answering from how a minor II V I is usually played in Jazz. I didn't have the impression it was very common outside Jazz?

@dannyprasetya2496 5 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr Jenz, I would like to asked what is the core fundamental of jazz guitar melody? For example: Pentatonic scales both major and minor can be played for any pop, rock, modern jazz, and mostly blues songs. Is there any such thing as the 1 simple modes in Jazz where you can go with any songs just like pentatonic? I have tried to use ionian, aeolian and pentatonic to come up with a solo if it's possible. I do understand that if you playing jazz melody, you can't stay in 1 chords, means that whenever the the chord changes, the melody must shift into that key. Is there any modes that covers those changes? I am sorry if I confuse you due to the lack of education in music especially in jazz. Thank you

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

That is not confusing. The basic set is 3 scales and I cover that in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKumdb2FqZPKZqc.html If you want to start somewhere then start with the major scale and the diatonic chords in that

@Shawn-hs8qk 5 жыл бұрын

Would you ever use the C Melodic Minor over the G7? There's a bit of a rub. I notice quite a few jazz players that choose to use Melodic Minor instead of Harmonic Minor even though it does have a classic Bebop sound. Scott Henderson comes to mind.

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I doubt if you will find a lot of players use C melodic minor on a G7, it will probably be D melodic minor (lydian dominant) or Ab melodic minor (altered)

@Shawn-hs8qk 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen C Harmonic minor over G7 catches the 3rd of G7.......I'll have to try Lydian dominant. Had not thought of that. thanks!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

You need to be aware of what sort of dominant it is. If it is a G7 that resolves then Lydian dominant is not the strongest choice, especially if it resolves to Cm.

@Shawn-hs8qk 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen If you had to choose a scale over the G7 in C minor ii V i, what would you choose?

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I don't use just one, but if you want to start somewhere then start with harmonic minor. That is the easiest to hear and the closest to the key.

@LaurentOutang-gg5yv 5 жыл бұрын

It's kind of funny, I ran a search about minor 2 5 1 yesterday... Feel targeted again :D Thank you for what you are doing, it's really great! I have a question about the m6 chord. I realized that It was actually a m7b5 inversed, so no doubt we can use m7b5 arpeggio but what would be the other options? Could we handle it as a 7th degree (locrien) and play a minor 7 arpeggio from the 3rd (become root), major from the b5... etc ? Maybe a video about the m6 chords ? :D Thanks again...

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Great! Yes the m6 chord is just tonic minor, so you can use a m6 arpeggio, a mMaj7 arpeggio and the maj7(#5) arpeggio from the third of the chord.

@LaurentOutang-gg5yv 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen Thank you so much!

@martin-raison-music-composer 3 жыл бұрын

0:57 why the G7 has its 5th augmented instead of a perfect fifth ?

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

It is a b13, and that is a natural extension on that chord just like the 13th is a natural extension in major :)

@martin-raison-music-composer 3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen Thanks for the answer, very much appreciated. Love your work !

@captainkoo 3 жыл бұрын

I’m betting that you are very good in math!!

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

well, I do have a degree in it :)

@captainkoo 3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen a math degree!? Wow. That’s impressive. I have long been fascinated by the connection between math and music. Both require discipline and a talent for seeing relationships and patterns.

@BlindEyeJones 2 жыл бұрын

I love your stuff! However, it flashes "Ab Dim (maj7)", but you are playing an Ab maj7 arpeggio over the D half diminished as a substitute. I think I know what you are saying but just the people will see that and think you mean an Ab Dim.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

Where in the video is that?

@BlindEyeJones 2 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen It's at the 6:32 mark at the bottom of the screen and very briefly.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

@@BlindEyeJones That is actually what the section is about, and that is the arpeggio that is used on the G7 a few seconds later. So that is not a ,istake.

@BlindEyeJones 2 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen Yes, it's the Ab maj7 arpeggio, and you say that too. But the way it is written is "Ab Dim (maj7)" and I'm just saying that people might mistake that to be an Ab Dim arpeggio.

@JensLarsen 2 жыл бұрын

@@BlindEyeJones Well, this is the first time in 3 years anybody have been confused, so it is probably not a huge problem. But thanks for the heads up :)

@user-is8id3dg5t 5 жыл бұрын

Ur the best

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it 🙂

@Marcelo-lt9hv 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video, i like the sound of your guitar. I have a dude: What tuning are you using?

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! What is afination? 🙂

@Marcelo-lt9hv 5 жыл бұрын

Tune

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

What tune? Do you mean tuning?

@Marcelo-lt9hv 5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

It's just standard tuning, most Jazz is.

@gaggle57 5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff and you explain it better than my teacher, who's great, no offense intended, but some people work better with other teachers oh, I'm paying him 120 a month??

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Tom! Maybe you should discuss it with him? Could be that you can find a better way to work with him :)

@gaggle57 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I don't think so, I respect him as a player, but as a teacher he's a real hard-ass, (maybe I need that) LOL!

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Sure! You should do what you think works for you :)

@raktim369 3 жыл бұрын

Can u please explain how the 5th chord in the minor is dominant??..

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

Otherwise it doesn't work. Check out some songs in a minor key, it is perfectly normal 🙂 The scale is the called harmonic minor

@raktim369 3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen i am thinking bit as a substitution ...like min7-dom7

@raktim369 3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen if I pick a minor scale ...it would be the 6th degree(1) 7th(2) 3rd (5th) in context to the major...or I am completely wrong??

@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын

@@raktim369 that is not how it works. A key and a scale is not the same. Go check out some songs in minor, like Autumn Leaves or You don't know what love is

@raktim369 3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen will do...thanks

@charlesenglebert8226 4 жыл бұрын

F half diminished is not is Cm Harmonic

@charlesenglebert8226 4 жыл бұрын

So on the G7 you also add Ab

@charlesenglebert8226 4 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why there are Ab over the G7 and not simply A

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

"Fø is not in Cm harmonic" - Check again, and know your scales....

@charlesenglebert8226 4 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen ya sorry, confusion between harmonic et melodic

@captainkoo 3 жыл бұрын

So actually Fm7b5 and Fm7 are both diatonic 7th in C harmonic minor, since both B natural and Bb are in C harmonic minor. Is this correct ?

@CyberDocUSA 5 жыл бұрын

Over 5 minutes and 30 secs of commercials before your video even began. Thought you might like to know...

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Well, you can actually skip them :)

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Well, you can actually skip them :)

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

Well, you can actually skip them :)

@CyberDocUSA 5 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I don't seem to have that option. Also, I don't mind supporting your work in that way, just maybe not so long. Sorry for complaining.

@JensLarsen 5 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure you do have that option. Non-skippable ads on YT can not be longer than 20 seconds, I just googled it.

@donlessnau3983 4 жыл бұрын

Terrible editing. Very annoying. Just talk normally and let the tape run. Why do all this "jump" editing? It's manic.

@JensLarsen 4 жыл бұрын

No matter how hard you try, it is impossible to please everybody :) Editing like this does seem to make more people watch the video longer according to my analytics.