​@showtime112 thanks for sharing this stories. As argentinian, thank you. Great work. And please, we all know that there is no simulator with all the historical vehicles for an extremely good historical accurate representation for this events, so please don t be shame if this isn t 100%. Excelente trabajo y suerte 💪💪

Imagine trying to find a game/ simulator where you could find a good representación of an argentinian ITB (Instrumento de tiro berreta) or a tractor with a zuni rocket launcher 😂😂😂. Well maybe the last one in war thunder, i don t know 😅😂

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@@juanpablosuarez4910 War Thunder actually has airplanes closer to those involved here, Sea Harrier, A-4B ad Nesher/Dagger. But on the other hand, DCS has the proper map (I love doing video when I have the exact map of the location), and also modern warships.Thanks for the comment and support!

​@@showtime112 mirage 3 pilot could have lowered landing gear early to indicate not hostile ?

Thank you for the feedback! I believe conflicts such as this one should be remembered.

It was a terrible waste of young life.

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So true. A senseless loss of life on both sides (as most wars are)

@@liamhegarty3220 War is a RACKET

Thank you for the detailed feedback! This is a very unique conflict indeed and it seems to attract plenty of viewers. In the last couple of months, all of my videos that achieved any success are about this war.

I fully agree with you. I was born and raised in the U.K., although I moved away many years ago. I was a teenager at the time of the conflict and witnessed at first hand and via the television the strength of emotions on both sides that seemed to propel the 2 nations towards war. I always felt that it was so tragic and needless, much like the current conflict centred around Gaza, yet once the first rock had been thrown, so to speak, further conflict was sadly inevitable. The great irony was that Britain and Argentina had a rich history and were previously close both culturally and economically. Even more ironically, much of Argentina’s navy at the time was sourced from the U.K. The Falklands/Malvinas issue is one for which there is no solution that will suit both ‘sides’, but sadly it is far from unique and such conflicts will, I fear, persist until humans can fully control their tribal instincts, which I doubt will happen any time soon. Returning to this video, I would like to make one further observation, which is that the British pilots unanimously praised the Argentine airmen for their skill, bravery and professionalism throughout the conflict. The respect that they earned left a strong impression on me. May all those who died as a result of the conflict rest in peace. I hope that we will one day find a better way to resolve our differences.

Argentina and Britain has to be friends as both countries can help each other.

The first modern war since WW2. Peer-level conflict.

Thanks, I appreciate your positive feedback!

Hey, thanks again and I'm glad you liked it! We can try another one in the future.

There were some suggestions that Cuerva dropped his fuel tanks and the gunners confused it with bombs but his tanks had been dropped much earlier. The mistake must be a mix of tension after the morning Harrier raid and perhaps poor recognition training.

Well..., there was the Avro Vulcan.... But yes, the Mirage/Dagger has a very distinctive shape.

The early bombing of the base left it in high alert. Cuerva talked with the BAM malvinas control for landing but the 35 mm gun stations were on automatic and when the radar detected the plane, they fired. All those event happened on the last seconds of before landing and practically at no altitude for nothing

Argentinians had very poor discipline in almost every aspect

@@juanpablosuarez4910 whaaaaaaaat they had just automatic Air Defense guns on a frontline AF with friendly aircraft around??? That's insane

More is coming, thank you for the feedback!

Thank you very much! Part three coming out next Saturday.

Thanks! Part three coming next weekend!

Thank you for watching and appreciating the content!

Thanks Pablo for another comment!

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I'm glad to hear it, part three coming out next weekend.

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I'm happy to hear you think so, thanks!

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I'm glad you enjoyed the videos, thank you!

ENG please!

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Should have done it long ago. These episodes are so good. @@showtime112

Plenty of people would agree! Thanks for the comment!

True, the margin was extremely narrow.

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Thanks for the opinion! I try to introduce such elements whenever possible.

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Only the Argentine pilots were truly brave men. They displayed impressive resilience and determination in the face of challenging circumstances, as they valiantly fought with equipment and aircraft that lagged behind their British counterparts by at least a couple of generations. Mirages III was designed in the mid-1950s and first deployed in 1962.

@@DohuuVi The Harrier was also a child of the 1950's/60's, the Sea Harrier was a later development about the same age as the Daggers. Pretty equal in technology but the Harrier was by no means the ideal airframe for air to air work, it was what's available that could be made work.

@@nickbreen287 Semi-agreed. The Mirage III flew for the first time in 1956 while the P.1127, the fore-runner of the Sea Harrier, flew for the first time in 1960 which suggests a technological gap of only about 4 years. However the gap is probably a bit wider than that as the Sea Harrier had entirely 1970s avionics. Even the radar is based on the Seaspray surface search radar which, while not ideal for the air to air role, still uses 1970s computer technology. The Mirage IIIEA was using avionics from, at best, the mid 1960s and some it was older than that.

Thanks for sharing! Yes, the British pilots had one great advantage in this respect. They had opportunities to practice against various types flown by NATO nations while Argentine pilots couldn't do that.

@@showtime112 thank you for making those videos , very well made , top entertaining !

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Thanks for the comment! I am aware of the pronunciation but I just can't make myself say the 'f' sound when there's no f letter anywhere 😁

@@showtime112go on, give it a try, it’s quite good fun! ;)

Ah, yes, the imaginary 'f' syndrome.

@@georgej.dorner3262it makes up for all the words we have that feature letters that we don’t pronounce, words like knife, knee and gnat!

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Thanks for the comment! Friendly fire is quite common in warfare, that is true. Regarding the colored stripes, the Mirage III actually didn't have any of those. They were applied to Daggers and Skyhawks.

Thank you for the feedback! That is exactly the point of the videos, even if you know about a particular historical event, you probably haven't seen it like that.

Argentinians had very poor discipline

Most of the Argentine soldiers deployed to the Falklands on the ground were poorly prepared/equipped conscripts IIRC

several things here. the attempt to land was called in, but that was still a no go zone and there was a lot of people in between to relate the message to. also the story goes the plane dropped fuel tanks (or tank) and that act was confused as bombs being dropped. visual identification of a plane moving that fast is a bad idea by the time you know what it is, it has already passed by. there was no friend or foe electronic system to prevent this. also the fire control system was inside a van close by, inside which the operator was located watching a screen, holding a joystick and receiving radio messages. at that time the system had only a small black and white screen (size of a medium sized ipad) super low definition, and you only had a few seconds to press the trigger or the target would be gone.

His radio was working because he was communicating with his wingman during the combat with Harriers. He was probably also communicating with the tower but maybe the tower to AAA wasn't too good. And those guys were probably on the edge after the morning raid by Sea Harriers. Disaster usually requires several ingredients.

@@showtime112 Yeah, I can imagine they would be on edge. Can you imagine wearing gear that people were wearing during the Incheon landings getting strafed by aircraft with night vision and basically having to just shoot at sound? Terrifying.

Thanks, I'm happy that you appreciated it!

Thanks! Such is the nature of DCS, it will never have everything.

Thanks for another comment! Some older sources said that Garcia Cuerva's Mirage was damaged by Thomas' missile but newer ones say that the airframe was recovered from shallow water and it showed no trace of Sidewinder damage. Part 3 coming out next Saturday!

​@@showtime112sée you Next saturday 🙋👍

Glad you liked it!

Those passes by the Leads turned out good.@@showtime112

​@@showtime112after the war Paul Barton was interviewed about this engagment and when he was told the Argentine pilot ejected safley (he didn't know at the time) he said he was delighted to hear it as he did NOT want to kill him,only to destroy his aircraft.

@@jaws666 Thanks for sharing the info!

@@showtime112 most welcome,my friend

There was obviously some confusion there. Some sources say that Cuerva dropped his fuel tanks and that caused the gunners believe they were bombs. But this is probably not true as the two Mirages had dropped their tanks just before the fight with the Harriers. Perona clearly explains how only one of his tanks dropped and he was fighting with the other still hung under the wing.

Thanks! There is one video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rL5heNenxq6maZ8.html

Yes, British pilots had the advantage of practicing against various types, including those that Argentine pilots flew.

​@@showtime112 was anything stopping Argentine pilots from training with other airforce?

@@BigDaddyButthead90 Well, geographical distance for one thing. Political reasons too. When you are a NATO member, something like that is a lot easier.

@@showtime112 Argentina has lots of neighbours, RAF has to fly across the Atlantic to train with the US, otherside of the world with Australia, that's no excuse

Yes, this was the only 'proper' dogfight of the conflict. There was another clash that could maybe fall in that category and it will be shown in part three.

Thank you very much for the info. Unfortunately, they are AI controlled only and I guess their shooting algorithm is defined the way it is. I might post something on Razbam discord, perhaps they'll change it.

KC130H exactement. Je la regarde dès que possible ainsi que chapitre 13 Rhubarb.Aujourd'hui journée trop chargée👎 . Toujours pas ton information sur F1CR

It was apparently a mixed bag. You could be rescued by friendly forces but also shot down by them. And those KC-130s were really, really busy during the war. Thanks for another comment!

Vidéo conforme au récit de mon livre. Par contre pas au courant du problème largage bidon droit. Le pilote a été récupéré par les soldats et évacuer sur continent. L'autre à été endommagé par sidewinder et touché ensuite par du 35mm AA

@@dominiqueroudier9401 Super pour le premier. Le deuxième n'a pas eu de chance, se faire descendre par sa propre DCA. Il aurait pu se poser sur l'aéroport, du moins faire une tentative.

​@@jeannezehner9450Dapres mon livre, il a fait une tentative et averti la tour. Mais piste de 1500m donc poser et toucher des le seuil avec ouverture du parachute ( ca se poser a 280). Largage charges externes, en courte finale. Les artilleurs ont pris ca pour des BAP, et pourtant averti par la tour. Touché par du 35mm, ca pardonner pas en TBA surtout a basse vitesse et ligne droite

Yes, Argentine aircraft operated on the edge of their fuel endurance which indeed was a big disadvantage. On the other hand, Harriers couldn't afford to stay in the combat zone for too long either. At least not before a forward operating base was established on the Islands.

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It was, and it allowed certain tactics such as the hook. But in the end, I think all the kills were achieved from the rear hemisphere so perhaps it wasn't decisive after all.

Thank you for your comment! Yes, you could say that in this encounter, Argentines blinked first.

In this case, DCS World.

As far as I can find, the primary role of Sea Harriers was to intercept Soviet bombers such as Tu-95. It was relatively maneuverable under right conditions but it is true that pilot training was probably the dominant factor.

Argentine pilots were very well trained. The ultra maneuverability of the Harrier gave it an amazing advantage.

The Harrier was highly manoeuvrable, it just wasn’t as fast, it’s advantage was it could almost stop in flight, and let a faster fighter, overshoot it , if it got behind it and a lock on it, then it also had the advantage of sidewinder missile system….far superior to the Argentinian missiles….

Well, not under all the circumstances. It's speed and acceleration were higher but that wasn't necessarily decisive.

Its a matter of fuel.....mirages operate from 700 km bases.

Perhaps you mean David Morgan? He met with the only surviving pilot of the four-ship of Skyhawks and I think also a son of one of the pilots he had shot down.

Harrier wingman is supposed to be in visual contact with the enemy all the time so I think the risk is minimal.

Thank you very much for your comment, I'm glad you like the videos!

Hvala na komentaru!

I'm glad you liked it, thanks!

Under such conditions, I agree!

Lesson...I you want to fight with harriers just lenghten the fxcking runway . Operating from 700 km is plain stxpid if most of your jets didnt have in flight refueling..

Lesson don't mess with the sidewinder

Yes, there was very little room (or rather, fuel) for actually fighting over the combat zone.

There are no Scouts in DCS, they could be approximated with Gazelles. I plan to cover the Pucara operations in this conflict so it will include the encounter you mention.

This particular video is done in DCS World, like most of them. Many others are created in War Thunder and a few in IL-2 Great Battles.

Vulcan mirage there is a size difference you guess which is very much bigger

Apparently, Paul Barton fired his guns at Perona on the first pass but this is not mentioned by several sources I found so I didn't show it. The Mirage leader was earlier believed to have been damaged by Thomas' Sidewinder but it now seems that it wasn't.

The Vulcan? I am aware. Spent an afternoon under one as an impromptu umbrella in a rain Strom. Just because your enemy doesn't have delta aircraft doesn't mean your enemy doesn't have delta aircraft. A few points. The cannon firing was what the Harrier pilots said they did so would expect that to be gospel. I was not aware of the Mirage with a hung up tank. The Shar pilots did say they thought they were fired upon by a R. 530 missile but based on your video, it seems to be the tanks dropping. The AIM-9L was supposed to be all aspect and that was it's advantage over earlier sidewinder variant. But when the Harrier met the Mirage head on, the seeker didn't lock on. The Matra Magic didn't have all aspect so was said to be an advantage for the UK. However, one report I read said that all Sidewinder fired were tail chasers so no head on shots.

@@showtime112 Paul fired a short 1-second burst at about 1,000 yards. The bullets passed behind Perona´s Mirage. It was just guesswork, that was outside gun parameters and they were not carrying tracers. Seconds later, he fired the Sidewinder.

The Mirage was intact when reached Stanley. No it didn't drop tanks, Garcia Cuerva did that before the engagement. There was simply miscommunication between the air base flight control and the AAA guns. Specially as the ones that shot him were from the Army and took time for the friendly aircraft incoming notice from the air force channels. There was a lot of interarms infighting, sabotage, jealousy, hidden information and a lot of awful communication channels delays.

Thanks for commenting. It seems like the Mirage leader's plane wasn't damaged until he was shot down by AAA. This was determined when the airframe was recovered years later.

There is one video about that war. Perhaps I manage to cover it some more in the future!

@@showtime112 ooh thanks

There is a mod by VSN, along with a bunch of other ones such as F-105, F-106, F-84 etc.

Why is he a hero do you think the Russian's invading Ukrainian are hero's?

Thank you for your comment and for sharing your personal experience!

No encuentro razones por las cuales se quedara sin combustible para regresar al continente, la duracion del dogfight fue infima y de hecho no hay registros de la participacion de cuerva en el mismo, por otra parte el combate tiene lugar sobre la gran malvina... Yo creo que o bien durante la huida se dirigio hacia el este, o bien ya tenia decidido de antes aterrizar en puerto argentino.

@@chrisgs8727 translation

The Mirage III operated by Argentina had the EA designation.

Thanks a lot for the feedback and suggestion. Today, the third part of the combat on 01 May will be released and after that, I'll make a small pause from this conflict. I'll return to it in the future and your suggestion is definitely a great material.

Thank you for the comment! As for the ship type, unfortunately the Leander class is the only British ship from that era that we have in DCS World which is used as the platform. The map developer, Razbam originally announced pretty much all the naval assets used in the 1982 war but eventually, they only released some of them. So, Leander class stands in for other British types.

That's your average score I think 😁

@@showtime112 82ND AIRBORNE I will continue to seek improvement as I watch your videos.

Mate, shut up. I was there and they gave as good as they got. Just bad leadership. Our training was far superior and leadership is the best in the world. But they didn't roll over if that's what you think

Thanks! In wars, things often depend on nuances.

No, just, no. Sorry but when Argentina started this they had no idea what they were up against, as soon as it was logistically possible for the UK to get it's forces to the Falklands. It was game over. Why on earth the Belgrano thought they could get away with going close to the no entry zone then heading away is still beyond me. Even the initial assault on Port Stanley featured the Argentine special forces attacking the barracks of the Marines. Total obliteration with grenades and heavy gun-fire. Except there were no Marines there as they had all spilt up to defend. So from the word go there was no intel gathering by the spec forces? There were losses on the Brit side yes but as soon as troops had established a beach head, and there are plenty of vids out there about how these battles all progressed, it was a British total domination of a lower trained force used for political means which is why it was over in 2 and a half months, including the time it took to sail there initially.

@@danhodge2337 Yes, just yes. The simple act of a couple of clicks on their bomb fuses would have sent the fleet suffer huge losses. Each ship sunk reduces the AA cover etc etc. The net result would have been catastrophic. The paras, by the end, had their bandoliers full of Argentine ammo because of the little that was left was stuck back on the beach head. The conduct of the soldiers was outstanding but suggesting that a win was just a formality is way off the mark. It was a damn close run thing.