Lady of the lake | Oil pastel drawing with me❀ Relaxing art process video, Spring vibes

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Lady of the lake | Oil pastel drawing with me❀ Relaxing art process video, Spring vibes

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Misako Flodin

Күн бұрын

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@arthursoares648 2 жыл бұрын

I started drawing with pastels a at the end of last year. I stambled upon your channel last week looking for references and became really mesmerized! its a pleasure to learn with your work and artstyle! Greetings from Brazil :)

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching my video! I’m so happy to hear that you enjoyed it💖

@tomlabaffstudio1693 2 жыл бұрын

Love these great tips! I have a new channel where I critique 3 artists per show. (only 8 minutes) Come get inspired! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as2Decho0cfVn6s.html

@quinetteadaobiartsofanapos9756 Жыл бұрын

@@MisakoFlodin It is hard not to LOVE your artstyle.Here to enjoy It too. Thank you for sharing It

@parttimeprojects1293 2 жыл бұрын

No one better with Oil Pastels on the whole of KZfaq. Loving the videos, loving the channel, loving the Art!! Great stuff!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so flattered! Thank you for saying that🥰

@raruninha 2 жыл бұрын

i think this is one of the best oil pastel paintings i've seen

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for saying that! It means the world to me🥺💖

@jodieelizabeth7592 Жыл бұрын

I cried twice while watching this! Absolutely breathtaking ❤

@MisakoFlodin Жыл бұрын

thank you so much❤️ glad you loved it☺️

@artforhaunting 2 жыл бұрын

The lighting on this is incredible! I could feel the sunlight just from how yellow her dress was and the highlights on her face. Awesome

@catnap6099 2 жыл бұрын

Your channel really deserves to grow. Your art is amazing.

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

omg thank you! it means a lot to me☺️

@iamnickbradley 2 жыл бұрын

Inspiring work! I'd love to know your thought process when it comes to choosing colours and determining how to layer and blend those colours. Using so many different colours layered on top of one another and blended especially for skin tones is so impressive. Can't wait to see what you create next!

@elizalatimer802 2 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely incredible! I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone do a piece like this with pastels. You have so much talent!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate it☺️

@PI650 2 жыл бұрын

Is this for real ? I cant believe that someone can render a realism so good with oil pastel. I am struggling with the medium, specially on how to create layers to give skin tones. Amazing, amazing.

@anthgabriel4218 2 жыл бұрын

So amazing! I really wish oil pastel got the respect it deserves.

@gemacornejo9013 2 жыл бұрын

Precioso 😍👏👏😍! Es bonito ver hoy en día pintar y dibujar a la manera tradicional en lugar de tanto iPad. Las texturas,tocar el material,ensuciarse las manos...es hacer que la pintura tenga vida. Gracias 🙏🙏🙏por dibujar y pintar con materiales reales y hacer que la pintura tenga vida.

@madhursaxena39 2 жыл бұрын

I know nothing about painting, not even as a generalist, but seeing this piece of art and craft, it is like MEDITATION.. This entire video looks like an Act of God to spread spirituality through colours.. It has the power to cleanse one's soul from slightest of impurities... I am hooked to all other videos.

@baongocla8883 2 жыл бұрын

When I was watching your video, I suddenly realize what a real art process is, not only relaxing but also studying a lot from this 😊

@gerriemasilang6936 2 жыл бұрын

I was struggling to find someone who has this type of art style and techniques until I found your yt channel! I'm really glad to stumble upon this video and I'll try to learn a lot from you. You make lovely art and I hope to reach your level someday~

@raquelsdiaries 2 жыл бұрын

this is absolutely stunning. i love pastels and this whole process was so mesmerizing to watch!! the final result just has /something/ that made me emotional... it felt like i was admiring a masters work. would you consider selling prints of this masterpiece?? id love to have it in my home for inspiration. keep up the amazing work!! lots of love from Spain

@_Cloudist_ 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of skill, talent, time, patience and all those failed artwork you went through to make such an amazing piece its really beautiful!art is such a beautiful and peaceful thing to do if your heart loves what u do and i can really tell through this one video u really take your time to understand every detail and do it peacefully. It was probably the fiest ever video that i watched fully without akippjng because the editting and music was spot on. And the asmr sounds are so peaceful. Thia video is just chef kiss amazing!!!♡♡♡ i hope you make it big someday~

@pizzacheeze4800 3 ай бұрын

I’m loving it.❤

@zaasaa_art Жыл бұрын

the final result was stunning!! wow. thank you for sharing your art.

@MisakoFlodin Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much🥰

@thepaintedcakebyjenniferfr8274 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are do amazing snd I absolutely am inspired by you. God bless you

@MisakoFlodin Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much☺️❤️

@kellyellinger422 2 ай бұрын

Wow!!!! I just found your channel today and I’m in love with your style and technique! Can’t wait to be inspired from watching more! Your endless amounts of dedication has made your work perfecto!!! ❤❤❤

@MisakoFlodin 2 ай бұрын

thank you so much for watching my videos😊 glad you enjoyed it!💖

@shaineallyson8694 2 жыл бұрын

only halfway through but i just had to write this...it's a school day and i woke up early really excited to watch your vlog (so happy it's a long video too 😭💗) i told myself i should probably just let it play in the background and sneak glances but upon starting your video i said NOPE im watching this with my whole undivided attention... really tho. wow. it's so amazing to see you patiently work towards your gorgeous final pieces. theyre beautiful-yes, but every step of the process is just as beautiful. you are so brilliant at what you do and maybe not all would let it be known to you but you inspire many young artists like me! 🤍 to say truthfully- you are my favorite oil pastel artist. i could watch your videos forever (and i will as long as i can!) thank you for this.

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Shaine! The fact that you woke up to watch my video made my heart so warm! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch every step of my process, I'm so so happy that you enjoyed it☺️ I appreciate your thoughtfulness, you’ve made my day!! Can't wait to start a new drawing and share it with you💓💓

@hannehanneart8605 2 жыл бұрын

I’m just starting to learn to draw with oil pastels. I’m so glad I found you. ❤️ ✨

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

🥰✨

@Kou_fish 10 ай бұрын

I absolutely loved this. Im a digital artist but i do traditional art too because well, exams and honestly started using pastels only end of this year. And i absolutely fell in love with it the moment i started trying it out, like childhood nostalgia. I remember as a kid i wasn’t allowed to touch pastels because they were too messy and i had a skin condition, and honestly i still have it now. And recently your video popped on my fyp. And it just gave me the extra boost i needed to know that soft and oil pastels is what i want to invest more time in and such. Seeing the colours slowly come together, like it’s not the right colours according to what you just see. But the feeling of you know it’s going to come together is what makes me love pastels even more.

@tnperdigao Жыл бұрын

I have no words to describe how beautiful is your art and your process of painting... it is hypnotic ❤

@MisakoFlodin Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much😊✨

@enchantedcharcoals8457 Жыл бұрын

This is so beautiful, I love how you chose to close her eyes unlike the reference photo. I never worked with this medium before, bought oil pastels today as an experiment and wanted some inspiration from KZfaq, I felt immediately inspired to recreate this. Thank you, it evokes so many emotions, truly talented ☺️

@user-lc9mx1mx2m 2 жыл бұрын

the music make me so calm. watch you painting make me feel relax. thank you

@tsvetomiraantova2634 2 жыл бұрын

Your talent and art sense are incredible! Thank you for sharing your process and experience with us!

@AP-yw7op 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of talent in this video. Man.

@heinrich3925 2 жыл бұрын

Wooooonderful! Beautiful. What a gift, what a skill!! Thank God for that ability!! 😃👏👍👍👍👍👍

@MishalDasani 2 жыл бұрын

Such an amazing and peaceful video Misako. It's nice seeing how you built your final piece using so many different references and how you did some anatomy study to help the construction of the drawing. I have some questions and a request about materials. You have many different oil pastel sets and they all seem to have their own behaviours and strengths; is it possible to make a short video explaining what those different characteristic are and in which situation or for what effect do you prefer to use one over the other. That would be a great and informative video if you ever decide to make it. p.s. Good luck with DaVinci Resolve; it has a steep learning curve at the beginning, but it will be worth it!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mishal! I appreciate you noticing how I try to convey my process. It took forever to film all the clips, but it was definitely worth it. About question> I mainly use Sennelier, Mungyo, Paul Rubens and yes, they have heir own behaviours and strengths. Actually your idea for video is pretty interesting, I will try to make a video about how I use them and make a small drawing with each brands. I'm just gonna leave a quick review for each pastels:) -Mungyo ones are very versatile. their texture is harder than Sennelier's, but they blend well and have a good colour variety:) -Sennelier ones are basically lipsticks, you can make smooth surface drawing with them and it's easy to add colours on top of any oil pastels since they are pretty soft. -Paul Rubens oil pastels are basically a stick type of cray. their quality of oil pastels are may vary so sometimes you mind find them difficult to blend with other colours. they are affordable compared to the other two and the amount of pastels you can get for that price range is amazing. so when you want to apply one solid colour to your background you can use them without feeling guilty🤣

@MishalDasani 2 жыл бұрын

@@MisakoFlodin Awesome!! That’s good to know. All of the brands are easily available in London, but I wasn’t sure if I should try Sennelier for my first set. I’ve tried a few single pastels already and they are super soft and beautiful to use. I would love to see that comparison video!! Thank you!!

@tomlabaffstudio1693 2 жыл бұрын

Love these great tips! I have a new channel where I critique 3 artists per show. (only 8 minutes) Come get inspired! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as2Decho0cfVn6s.html

@mildredmickle4434 2 жыл бұрын

This video was a joy to watch! Beautiful technique, Misako Flodin! Thank you for sharing. :-)

@malariya. 2 жыл бұрын

I feel happiness and peace after that🤍 Thank you 😊

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

🥰💕

@NgocMinh-rg5xo 2 жыл бұрын

A masterpiece!

@sirikim1111 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely attractive pastel artwork!! That’s amazing and beautiful, detail too very good feeling. ✨💕😍

@jrz7325 2 жыл бұрын

Not only is your art amazing but so is the film work. Your videos are more like a journey than a tutorial. I'm hooked on oil pastels but am struggling. Your video gives me new inspiration. Thanks for sharing.

@davidsharp7916 Жыл бұрын

A stunning oil pastel painting and beautifully produced youtube channel. You have inspired me to use oil pastels more.

@muffin_fluffin7707 Жыл бұрын

you make such beautiful art i can barely stand it. whether it be when you are imitating those who came before you or making your own personal work i can see parts of your soul flowing out onto the page. i usually dont feel this strongly of art, but being able to see you placing down the strokes and mixing such beautiful and gentle colours together, its a work of art in of itself. and your creations are always so serene, so peaceful and quiet, its divine. sending you all my love dearest, i patiently await your next upload

@wiber6612 2 жыл бұрын

this is truly relaxing. I love your artwork.

@theobolt250 Жыл бұрын

This is also very ASMR. Best of both worlds.

@itsnlee 2 жыл бұрын

I got recommended this video in April and couldn't be more glad to click. After wanting to create Impressionism style works, I finally dug out an old set of pastels I never used thanks to this video. Now I'm researching more on the medium and practicing on colouring books. The way you lay down colour and the finalized piece are so inspiring, thank you. Looking forward to seeing more.

@sarrahathome 7 ай бұрын

What a beautiful piece, and it was lovely watching you create it.

@MisakoFlodin 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!🩷

@user-vm9mb1vk7x Жыл бұрын

đón chờ những ca khúc tiếp theo của Phúc, càng nghe càng thích giọng ca của Phúc ❤

@jananeepremkumar582 2 жыл бұрын

So beautiful. It's only getting better as it goes.

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! glad you enjoyed my video☺️

@julietrodriguez381 8 ай бұрын

Gorgeous! First time seeing the use for pastels

@quinetteadaobiartsofanapos9756 Жыл бұрын

So many variety of colours to choose from I love your process when you started to detail it with the pastel, it came Alive . Thank you for showing the stages as It progress. Congratulations Misa♥️👍

@aditimisra1648 2 жыл бұрын

I literally had no idea that this much detailed painting can be possible with oil pastels. I think the oil pastels colours which are available in India is not that much smooth and blendeble, that's why I had no idea about it. I'm mesmerized by this painting, outstanding work. I just found your channel today, couldn't help but subscribed ❤️.

@Maths3rdSec 10 ай бұрын

Oh god this is soooooo good 😩😩

@gordotrolo4603 Жыл бұрын

I think that something of Monet it's on that lake ! Excellente job !

@KKOTBYEOL_Yeri 11 ай бұрын

Your drawing and everything in this video is just beautiful. ❤

@lcarolc03 2 жыл бұрын

This is a wonderful video with a beautiful painting. Thank you for your demonstration.

@riyasantra5187 Жыл бұрын

Thanx ☺️ for reminding beautiful words during low hours of life...... consistency, work , enjoy , and self love ..... So positive and strong video 😊🤌

@MisakoFlodin Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching my video🥰

@katies8080 2 жыл бұрын

This video came up on my feed, I had intended to check my emails while watching but each time found myself going back to the video not wanting to miss anything. Your attention to detail is stunning. I loved seeing the drawing come together.

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

glad you enjoyed it! I'd love to make this type of video again☺️

@danyquintela4281 2 жыл бұрын

Wowww! 👏👏👏👏 Wonderful, Wonderful, Wonderful!! In love with your art.🙏💟💟💟 Do more!👍🙏❤

@yikes7607 2 жыл бұрын

Your channel is giving me life

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

🥺💖

@lbrandon1469 2 жыл бұрын

Grateful thanks for your beautiful video post. Watching you work is amazing and inspiring. Please consider writing a paragraph or two about your process of creation, or techniques in the description area for your video. For example, why did you choose Neopastel (NP 1? Or NP 2 water soluble?) for the under layer of the face or other areas? Are you using Prismacolor pencils to add details, or scrape back oil pastels? Your command of oil pastels as a medium are extremely praise worthy and very impressive! I think you'd easily win art contests. Thank you so so much for sharing your painting progress and glimpses into your daily life. You are truly a lovely person! Thank you!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to comment on here! I’m so glad you love my art😊 when I started oil pastel I never would've thought that I could get such a positive and supportive encouragement from people. you guys are all so sweet. I'm glad that I kept trying, comments like this keep me going. and I appreciate your insight for descriptions- I added my art supply list with how I use them for. I use Neo color Ⅱ to draw tiny details, they have smaller tips than oil sticks and I can sharpen them easily with an Exacto knife. you can use colorpencils instead, but I prefer neocolors since I can apply more pigments on a paper. and I use colour pencils to scrape back oil pastels. I guess it doesn’t have to be a colour pencil to do that, but they are not too harsh on paper and they are always scatter around my desk so it’s accessible for me:)

@rafumen 2 жыл бұрын

I love it i don't know why but i started to tears dropped when you started coloring it 💔 I felt like see trying to find some place to hide in but she didn't have anywhere else so she was there hoping nobody see her dying

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

I love the way you described how you felt by looking at her🥺💓 it's melancholy and beautiful.

@philiptownsend4026 Жыл бұрын

I am a 69 yo man and confess I have strong emotions. If I see anything of great beauty or that has been a work of great skill or endeavour. From Christmas decorations to furniture to building or engineering achievements but especially great paintings. Those tears are coming now.

@lyssasletters3232 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely magnificent use of color! Lovely video. Thank you for sharing!

@lifeismusicparnadonkers Жыл бұрын

I love this oil pastel portret. I always try to creat new things rather then paint something that already exists even wen its just for practice. I have a very active and imaginative mind and i always wanna do something that hasnt been done thats just me

@ethereal1813 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing! I’ve never seen artwork like this before! I like it so much! Support you!!!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much☺️✨

@user-bu2lu4dk3y 3 ай бұрын

What a Fabulous painting ! I Love it ! ❤❤❤😊

@MisakoFlodin 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much☺️❤️

@maankawas5957 2 жыл бұрын

Stunning! Absolutely beautiful!❤🔥😍👏👏👏

@julz63 2 жыл бұрын

I love everything about this video ❤️ I’m a digital artist (purely for fun) and this was on my playlist today. This was the perfect video for me as I’m struggling with a painting I’m on at the moment, and watching your techniques here has inspired me to carry on with my piece today. As soon as I saw the Simple Abundance book at the start of your video I knew it was going to be something special, then imagine my surprise when I saw you take home the Allan Seale gardening book. I have both of these books at home (Australia). I’ve just subscribed to your channel and look forward to watching your beautiful, relaxing video. Your Lady in the Lake is superb ❤️

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Julie, Thank you for the lovely comment! This video is my favorite video I ever made, so it really means a lot to me💓 it was such a cute coincidence that we both have the same books! glad this video reached to you😊🌹

@nieeeee8599 2 жыл бұрын

I loooove this so much! You are my favourite oil pastel artist and a great inspiration

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh Thank you so much for saying that!💖 I really appreciate it😊

@elperretedemafuyu1457 2 жыл бұрын

This is so beautifully made I can't help but sigh constantly

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

☺️🤍🤍

@nicoleheinemeyer 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, so beautiful🌺Many thanks for sharing🙏

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for watching🥰

@yp935 2 жыл бұрын

Wow you are a master ❤ More oil pastel Tutorials please

@bethhemmelgarn3098 3 ай бұрын

Beautiful!!!

@katmonkey03 Жыл бұрын

I’m not usually a fan of oil pastels as a medium but this is absolutely incredible

@MisakoFlodin Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much😊

@loripettit6830 2 жыл бұрын

I truly enjoyed watching your video. You are so gifted. I’ve never used oil pastels, only watercolors. Thank you for sharing! ❤️🖌👩🏻‍🎨

@mefairy1 2 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely stunning. I loved getting to see your process

@sendesoyle7598 2 жыл бұрын

You paint so indescribably beautiful, you should know that. ❤️

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, it means a lot to me☺️💌

@camguofen 11 ай бұрын

Amazing!

@MisakoFlodin 11 ай бұрын

thank you so much🥰

@CorinneLeMellionnecHarnois Жыл бұрын

lovely, beautiful !! luminous colors !! i enjoy more and more oil pastels !

@bhanditalekakulpond4257 2 жыл бұрын

I love how clam and vibe of your video thank you 😊

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! glad you enjoyed it😊💓

@sharonsargent8788 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy your style and way of teaching, thank you.

@ananeenn 2 жыл бұрын

I'm shocked. Why so few views and likes? Your work is insanely beautiful. I literally fell in love with your video. Beautiful background music and drawing process. Very interesting to watch your technique

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to watch my video! It means a lot to me🥰

@Idahadleyart 2 жыл бұрын

This was just gorgeous to watch. Thank you.

@sanjanasrinivasan3449 2 жыл бұрын

Oil pastel is my comfort media when it comes to painting...I hope to improve more when I use them for my drawings....and I loved your work....thanks a lot for posting this😍

@malariya. 2 жыл бұрын

That was one of the best art velogs that I saw✨

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I appreciate it💖

@chrysanthemumjames7047 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this, God bless you.

@teutahot 2 жыл бұрын

Sublime😍 I usually use oil paints for my paintings but pastels are also so beautiful, I looove the way you draw with them, it’s magnificent❤️

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy that you love this drawing! Thank you so much for leaving the comment🥰

@GwenisImmune Жыл бұрын

its so beautiful omg

@udyjavisd 2 жыл бұрын

BEAUTIFUL

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

💖

@evageliazoulaki222 2 жыл бұрын

Such an incredible video !Amazing filming and magnificent artwork!!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much☺️✨

@larerinellis_1037 2 жыл бұрын

Очень красиво.

@rgrvrrth 2 жыл бұрын

Lots of colors!!!

@ashleymorton3681 2 жыл бұрын

I love your work! How long does it take to finish a single piece and how do you keep yourself motivated to finish it? I enjoyed watching your video!!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!💓 it usually takes 1-2weeks per piece. I try to take a break for a healthy amount so that I don't burn myself out & keep motivate myself☺️ I'm so happy that you enjoyed my video💖

@Suology2030 2 жыл бұрын

This is so beautiful ..Am in luv wiz every detail 💞

@laraviianaa 2 жыл бұрын

you´re underrated! love your videos

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

thank you so much!🥺

@LizzVisions 2 жыл бұрын

I'm SO HAPPY I found your art channel! 💚💞 Your aesthetic is so romantic and poetic and relaxing. The ASMR drawing sounds are dreamy. AND YOUR SKETCHES ARE SO BEAUTIFULLY FLUID!! I loved that Sargent painting at 0:55. I found it wonderfully surprising that you also incorporate digital ! I'm also inspired by your use of oil pastel, I had no idea you could get such amazing realistic effects. Like I love the detail of the turquoise glow of the hand to show its underwater at 20:19. I hope to see this piece hanging in a museum one day. 💗💗💗

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting on Instagram and youtube🥺💓 I read your comments so many times, it really makes my heart so happy☺️

@_Cloudist_ 2 жыл бұрын

Its so wholesome that you seem to remember who comments frequently!!♡

@mohsinjokhiya Жыл бұрын

Soothing.

@jackiegarroutte8970 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful work...just stunning

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!:)

@MayFineart 2 жыл бұрын

I love your art piece ! Very relaxing and very inspiring … 7 days of full focus and passion ❤️ I hope and pray for your success as an artist …

@marcelogranda 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful! I find difficult to blend the colors with oil pastel. I love your technique.

@patriciaangelam 2 жыл бұрын

this is beauutiful. it's so mesmerizing seeing you work with the oil pastels and the colors! you're amazing!

@MisakoFlodin 2 жыл бұрын

aw I'm so glad you loved it☺️🌹

@ainzaida477 9 ай бұрын

I am just started learning the oil pastel drawing 2 days ago. Just to let you know, i think your video convince me this is the art that i have been looking for my whole life🥹🥹 i always love art and involve in it even i am not that talented. I just cannot describe this feeling when first time i bought the oil pstel 4 years ago kept unused in my room, bought it because idk, just attract to it😂 (i was into anime drawing and manga) but when i started playing with the oil pastels 2 days ago, its like i am get it. Idk how to describe, i guess its a feeling you get when you found something that you trying to find all this time😂 hahaha if u know what i mean haha thank you for beautiful vids btw! U r my first inspiration in this journey🥹🥹🥹🥹

@mariaduarte5306 Жыл бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 no word

@jabjab12 7 ай бұрын

Incredible

@boyinblue. 2 жыл бұрын

Oil pastels are not my thing but I still enjoyed this video, I've been painting with watercolour and gouche for a few years now and it really seems to fit with me.