Im50 ad live in richmond ca I walk anywhere 24/7if I'm upset or mad it how I vent my25yrold identical twin son drowned at lake berryessa and I was Goin crazy so ran all nite if I need it and if some creep wants to get u it can happen when ur home in house day or nite so can't say if u walk u pit urself in danger..b smart take pepper spray or wteer but danger is everywhere..

Bottom line is the BF started the whole chain of events.

​@@debscott9121 Can't blame him either,can we. Unfortunately, bad things happen to good people.

So we'll said. Totally agree.

It's not about victim blaming. It's about reducing the chances of something bad occurring. We all know we *should* be able to walk the streets at night in perfect safety but the reality of the situation is that this just isn't true. If a young woman walks the streets late at night and alone, there is an increased risk for her. There's increased risk for lone men too but there are more factors stacked against women than there are men. If my wife let my daughter walk alone late at night and said something along the lines of "don't let your dad know" I would be absolutely furious. Do let me know. Get me out of bed and I'll drive her, walk with her, walk behind her if she wants to be alone. The world is full of opportunistic psychopaths - you can't just pretend they don't exist.

That is awesome. Poor Milly Dowler could have been saved if the police had jumped on it immediately rather than blaming the father and deciding she was a runaway. Boils my blood

Exerlent?😅

They were so thorough and seem very compassionate. Comparing them to the horrific stories about Met police officers committing rape, murder, and other horrors.

You make it sound as though the whole police department are out commiting rape and murder. It's not common you know.

I agree with you there who’s to say ( maybe not at that time of the morning) they haven’t done similar things? Through my lifetime both asa child and an adult I’ve wondered off well gone out at weird times of the day b it going for a walk or down to the corner shop etc it was only luck I came back in one piece I’m in my mid thirties and I’ve probably done silly and risky things but who hasn’t? Most of us have probably b foolish and don’t always have common sense even as adults X

So sad. Her mother spoke very eloquently of this tragedy. Very brave woman-brother too. Very sorry for whole family. ❤ ( bet they don’t speak to that boyfriend any more though! Obviously not his fault-but still!) I’d like to know who re-homed her beloved cats?❤

He could not have killed her on January 1st around 2:30- 3am. The police found her body on the 28th. A body begins to decompose hours after death. After 28 days, the neighbors would had complained about a horrible smell. The police would had smelled a decomposing body from the front door. He may of held her hostage in his flat the entire time. She could had tried to escape and managed to get to the door....

Yep . Nutters are everywhere .

Not monsters. Monsters are imaginary creatures in children's books. These are males. Stop calling them monsters or animals. They are simple males who are full of evil intent, overwhelmingly toward women and children.

True. But to deny there are unsavoury people walking about waiting for an oppportunity, is naive. We don't live in a utopia.

CLOWN

In a perfect world, yes they should but sad to say, there are plenty of weirdos out there just looking for the right opportunity

But there are humans out there...

Not in Hull. It’s one of the roughest, most deprived places in the country. It’s a sh*t hole.

They are just obtuse idiots. Ignore them.

I’m so sorry for your Auntie. I wish you and your family.

So sorry for you xxxx

@@trcsunny2187 Thank you so much! She's still the Best person I've ever known! 🥀🥀🥀🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔

@@sarahtrattoriai831 I just want to say, thank you for your kind words. 💔💔💔🥀🥀🥀🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏

and she was born in Dublin. ☘

I’ll be your boyfriend anytime and will never neglect you

It's just shocking that he left the cats alone when he should have been with them, and this is what his irresponsible behaviour brought about.

​@@MrStrictlykushcreep

I can't imagine, to go to have fan, to party in New Years Eave, and left my boyfriend with cats, alone! Because... he doesn't have money... 😮🤦🏻‍♀️🤯

it was partly the mothers fault tbh

@@jasonvoorhees5640 No, it wasn’t the mother’s fault.

@@susanmackendrick5455 be quiet karen

In America that happens alot

It does not

@@hhealy7199 it does too

​@@BebedollieI don't feel that they were replying to you, as your name, is not tagged

I was just about to go and put my bin out but I think I'll leave it until the morning after reading this comment! 😨

Well said! Thank you for being a kind and logical person….

Some ppl have no moral compass. I was raised to have empathy and respect for everyone. The golden rule, Luke 6:31 says, Do to others as you would like them to do to you.

​@@rburns9248If I decided to go to bed after not hearing from my child for two hours after they were supposed to call me when walking home at 1 am then I would want people to chastise me as well. I'm way too proactive to just go to sleep when alarms are going off in my head.

Other people think they are immune to evil situations. Never think it could happen to them. Shame on them.

I agree with you 💯

sarcasm?

New Year's Eve, late at night. Lots of potential drunks or those up to no good. You must live in reality not some should be dream. Don't walk home alone late at night when the streets are deserted except for the murderer lurking behind.

More monster's than we will ever truly know.

There are about 250,000 people like him in England! Divide that into the number of cities. Even 1,000 per city would be way too much.

I think humberside police called in another police force to help and they suggested that

Two kittens, more precios than her safety and life... 🤦🏻‍♀️😖

Shame about her poor use of English at 31.13 though: she should have said, '...the two men sitting in the flat...' (NOT 'sat')!

​@@AnnabelleJARankinFirst, she is given a script to read so she did not write it, and secondly, talk about nitpicking. 🙄

@@vickicali Doesn't matter who wrote it - it is bad English, which is grating - not at all nitpicking if you are a professional English teacher!

@@AnnabelleJARankin Well, then you are allowed. 😂

No interference with English grammar at that point, just the use of the past participle instead of the present one. And yes, sit is a 'verbum intransitivum' so that's probably why you think it sounds strange but there must have been a transitive verb at some stage (as it is still present in other Germanic languages).

Hmm interesting, thank you for the information...

How do you know this

It came from a ranked officer who worked on the case.@@elishadoyle8191

🤔 Hmmmm, very interesting, what is your source please?.........

😢😢😢😢 Rank has no purpose of doing something positive And yet they have that believe to take front stage So pathetic 😢😢

Completely agree animal's would have been fine for one night

@@leticiakiddey8334 I think she was more worried about the partying and her negligent boyfriend and his drunk friends possibly stepping on the cats which could very well have happened. I blame her negligent boyfriend and Little if you ask me. Her nor her mother were to blame.

I blame her upbringing, my 3 children would never have gone off into the night like that, I brought them up to know the dangers.

@@Bedmomentsoh get a life.

@@reedee5306 truth hurts, kids obey the warnings of parents when they have been raised properly.

I think ur talking about thr guy in Cleveland...Anthony Sowell. His neighbors complained for YEARS he raped & killed w/o discovery for years...bc he lived next to kind of pork processing plant er something. Plus he attacted druggies Finally he attacked A woman who escaped & reported the assault. It still took weeks for the cops to go arrest him...at which point they found like 8 or 10 bodies decaying in his hone! Lookup Anthony Sowell

It's *corpse. How distasteful of you. Show some respect for Rachel. There are less triggering words you could have used if you had the emotional intelligence.

There's always one 🙄

@@Poeticfloetic🙄facts over feelings!!

@@Poeticfloetic corpse is by no means some distasteful or "bad" word. It's a normal word that means dead body without any dubious implications. Hard to see why it would trigger you like that

Just because the person misspelled a word doesn't make them disrespectful. Like myself the poster may have learning disabilities.

And makes my piss boil 😡

And they did an outstanding job!

exactly anna...Chief Superintendent Paul Davison orders to search every property in the vicinity could have revealed nothing and he would look silly for wasting resources...but the decision was inspired by his determination and as we see paid off...also thanks to the officer who felt increasingly suspicious of the occupier of the flat and his evasiveness...excellent police work...they get a lot of negative press with bad policing sometimes...i salute you Humberside division

​@@markianclark9645I don't think he would have liked silly

Narcissistic vile scumbag more like

Yes but not a murderer

I sure he has survival guilt .......Blame the kittens........

He didn't go to a party, not because he wanted to play with kittens, but because he didn't have money. Girl left him alone, with cats. When his friend invited him, without money, he went to be with people and have party as his girl friend has. Who was selfish?

If her boyfriend had kept his promise and stayed with the kittens, she’d still be alive. You’d have thought he would have felt really bad about that.

No. She made a decissions to left safety home and walk at night.

One of rachaels sisters died I think a while ago

"Useless, envious, blob with sh*t for brains"...Much like the trolls that saw fit to post insensitive comments putting blame on Rachel and her mother.

What's the symbol?,🤔

@@dsd7004 Misbaha or Tasbih beads..

Easier said then done when you work late and night shifts having to depend on buses then walking for 15 min to the job

Everything in life that happens involves a chain of events from the day we are born, good or bad!

Random events can lead to disaster. But as a cat owner myself I dont understand why they couldnt leave the kittens alone for a few hours. With food and water they would have been ok overnight. Just leave some kibble and water. Sad she lost her life over this . Not blaming her in any way . Just hope other young ones will take heed that bad people lurk everywhere. Better to be safe.

@@lindc1070I think she was more upset with the boyfriend than the cat alone because like you said they can take care of themselves even for day having food and water, she wanted to be home when he got there to confront him .

@@yadinavarro9810 frankly, I dont understand his attitude . He didnt seem concerned when she went missing . I agree with you, I think this was an emotional decision that concerned her relationship. .

I can't imagine, to left my boyfriend alone, with cats. Go to party in New Years Eve, left young guy alone with cats because he has no money. She had fun, he had to seat alone, home. 😮🤦🏻‍♀️🙆🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤯

The only person which was in this interview was her brother no mention of a sister.......Her parents.......He was stalking her and used his friend in case the Police showed up ....I believe he was homosexual with fantasies of female relationships....... Necrophilia is s ex with a corpse.....There genital area becomes deformed......There do not have sex with living individuals.....Shame hides from sexual exposure.....

Yes, Mary, there is a presence of evil - which is not fear, it is "evil" - when a psychopath enmeshes with your life - evil has "being" - you experience a terror because evil has a body-mind - the body- mind of the psychopath. His being is evil. I used to discount the word "evil" before he crossed my life, but evil is not a word, it is a thing, a presence, and as you say, Real. It is an actual existence. I am not able to define it though. This story is one example of it.

God help us, please! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Yes, she did nothing wrong here. Ridiculous of him to suggest otherwise.

@@appledoreman Why are you victim blaming? While it’s true you shouldn’t b out ( unless you’re working or something) at that time of the morning people still have the right to get home without being attacked the only ones are to blame are the perpetrators who took the lives from those innocent victims

Please explain your comment as it makes no sense. I didn't blame anyone in my comment. @@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt

Victims also ignore common sense, that’s why many are murdered! We have to protect our 1 life not expose it.

You said nothing inappropriate Apple dore Man.👍

It is partially her fault. Just because you should be able to walk where you want in whatever short skirt you want, doesn't absolve you of responsibility for your own safety.

Mum could have driven Rachel this one mile, if she really was concerned. Now it is too late. 😢

Exactly when the Queen died my Mum went to see the coffin and as she walked from the bus stop my Dad spoke to her while she was on her way home as it was early in the morning and my Dad wanted to ensure that she was safe. Most of us ( if not all) have probably been out at ridiculous hours of the night and early in the morning especially if we’re ( for example) on our way home from somewhere b it a pub the theatre a concert or anywhere you might have been for the evening and it’s only luck (I know things do happen) I believe that you arrive unharmed. Rachel’s family weren’t to blame for what happened to her they had no inkling that she would b in immediate danger even though they were worried. We do all we can to keep our loved ones safe and make sure they’re not gonna get into any form of trouble etc but it doesn’t always work out that way you may not realise or foresee the something untoward is happening or going to happen. Happy New Year Xx

@@evoluna3056 She couldn’t drive her home because she’d being drinking alcohol everyone knows it’s against the law to drive while intoxicated even on a short trip it still might’ve ended in tragedy had Rachael’s parents drove her home Xx

@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Thank you, Yes you are right. Now I read it, too. Rachel's mother couldn't get her to stay the night, but because she was worried, maybe she should have walked Rachel home? I know, it sounds so easy in hindsight. After every murder I watch, I think to myself, how could this (maybe) have been prevented? But you are absolutely right, the car was no option because of the alcohol everybody drunk this night.

The boyfriend went out with his friends, and probably left the cats with enough food to last the time he would be out (Which is only a few hours). Did you expect him to bring cats to a party? Do you think Rachel would leave the cats in his care if he would not have the decency to leave the cats with enough food? Rachel went out with her family, came back and decided to go put herself at risk by walking a mile in streets filled with mentally ill and unstable men. Her mother was against her walking because its common sense that women can be subjected to all kinds of cruelty by evil men in the dead of night... And yet your take from this whole case is to blame this on the boyfriend?? All because you were not satisfied with how he acted in a 15 second video?? There is something seriously wrong with you... I can only hope you're projecting your own feelings about your boyfriend, because it would be really concerning if you go about everyday life with this kind of mentality.

@ntlahlantlanganiso4419 You sound very unbalanced, do you have a personality disorder?

She was over the top about her cats. I know a few people like this who think their animals are like children but they aren't the boyfriend went on a night out during party season. He fed the cats and locked them in a secure environment. He did nothing wrong. As awful as it is, Rachel put herself at risk due to overreacting about cats.

​@@ntlahlantlanganiso4419why are you blaming the victim????

@@mariacperez-fondon543I am simply refuting the unjustified claim that the boyfriend is at fault for the girl's death. I am not blaming the girl. But the moment people start blaming someone else other than the killer, that is when we have to look at the facts objectively. The person to blame for all of this is the killer. Not the boyfriend nor the victim.

Many women think they are untouchable.

New years night, I think they all were well out of it after celebrating the new year!

I was wondering if anyone owned a car. Did the mother drive? I guess not since it didn't seem to be an option.

She should stay her parents home, to the morning.

Oh yes... they were alone for few hours... 😭😭😭😭😭😭 🙆🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Thank you for saying that about her parents. I see that so many times when somebody’s child is murdered or a loved one has been murdered the people blame the parents or the family members or friends and it’s quite disgusting and disturbing. So I very much love the fact that you also stand up for that and know that it’s not the parents fault. If people wanna blame somebody, they should blame the person that murdered her.

The person committing the crime is responsible for the crime and the mum is innocent of the crime BUT there was no reason for mum not to have walked the short distance with her daughter. She says she was that worried, she was considering entrusting her daughter into the hands of a complete male stranger, I’m sorry but that doesn’t make sense. That man was a predator looking for a prey and mum failed to protect her daughter from being that prey. Even she, herself, knew it was wrong, she says her husband would kill her if he knew she was letting daughter walk home alone

@@beaby1977 You’re welcome I understand and get we should act on our instincts and never discredit them but when you lose a loved one in such a horrific way it’s horrible families have enough guilt as it is without people pointing fingers at them and blaming them. I’m no parent but I understand why parents are protective of their children sadly it doesn’t always work out and we eventually do our own thing but god for bid if a tragedy like this does happen friends and family don’t need people saying they should’ve done certain things to prevent it nobody could’ve ( maybe just maybe aspect for Rachael’s partner) foreseen what was going to happen Rachael isn’t to blame either the poor thing was worried about her beloved cats while it’s true a woman shouldn’t be out on her own late at night no matter what her age and she should probably take precautions but it could’ve happened to anyone poor Rach was just an innocent victim Xx

@@amybishop9787 It’s hard knowing what the best action is yes maybe Rachel’s Mother should’ve walked her home that goes without saying but she might’ve ( I might be wrong) offered to and Rachel probably didn’t want her to? I’m not saying that’s a fact nor am I saying I’m right but when someone loses a loved one in such a barbaric way they don’t need people passing judgment Xx

I’m a parent. There’s 0% chance I wouldn’t have followed up that night and went to bed instead. That’s insanity.

You’re so right they should have empathy for those victims and their families even if they have taken risks it doesn’t mean they’re to blame for their own deaths yes you should take precautions and friends family ( if they’re in a relationship) and their partner should insure they are safe and do their best to contact them when they’re not with them but they’re not at fault it’s those monsters who took their loved one’s life away. When you think about it we take risks every day whether we’re going out or staying home but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t go and enjoy ourselves etc we all need to b cautious and look out for one another but we can’t watch someone like a hawk Xx

It’s absolutely astounding.. people have no self awareness whatsoever.. the ONLY person responsible is the monster that killed her.. what is WRONG with people!?🤦‍♀️ Every one of these stories has some element of some decision being something that they end up regretting because of how the story ends.. but anyone should be able to go about their business without thinking they’re going to be murdered.. it’s not the victims or their families and friends FAULT they’re dead.. it’s the murdering monsters fault. Full stop. Bashing the people who are mourning just makes you the a$$hat. 🙄

I watched a news update about someone who lost their life in the storm… every single comment I could see (and I kept scrolling in shock to find one good one) was either laughing or condemning the dead woman for not heeding the weather warning. Someone lost their life and everybody piping up criticising her getting their one upmanship in the news about her death. So so disheartening to see how people really are.

Well said. I completely agree with you. 🙈👍🏻

1000% agree.

I didn't get the overall impression of a super thoughtful and considerate kind of dude. 🤡 Probably shouldn't have been left with them anyway. >_>

Nothing to do with her boyfriend that a vile person committed a horrific crime. Am Marc and I was the person who was arrested with the murderer.

LeeAnn are you single?

He was an odd boyfriend, not one I would like with a daughter.

*bargain 🙄

He sounds like a right douche.

@@Poeticfloeticprobably just a mistake. By the way if I click on your name it shows other comments you have made…It’s her, not jer 🙄

😂😂 Great point!

Absolutely right…..you don’t just to go to a party and not tell anyone essentially if you are in a relationship.

How dare you blame the boyfriend how dare you, I wonder if you or any of us who haven’t made silly decisions it does not mean you could have saved a life if it wasn’t for a silly mistake, wonder how guilty he feels himself without people like you judging him saying for absolutely sure it’s his fault What about the sick person who actually killed her How dare you How dare you & people who think like you Not very mature

I know what do they want him do stay in over new year and baby sit a pair of fuckin kittens while his girlfriend is out!?if anyone is to blame it's her own fault for either being too caring for a bunch of kittens that had themselves to keep each other company.or if thats not why she went she was probably going to the party that her boyfriend was at because she didn't trust him probably thinking he's cheating or summet!. She should of just stayed at her mum's and it would never of happened, so if it's anyone's fault it's her own not her boyfriend's

Wow that’s a wee bit harsh , but if you’re looking for blame how about you put it on the animal that did something to her. Her fault 🤦🏻I honestly hope nothing like that happens to one of your family member’s but would you still blame them 🤔 As for cats…my wife and I don’t feel right going to sleep without our beautiful furry 🐈 cat on our bed, silly I know but that’s the effect they have on you , you should get 1 sounds like you need 🐈 a cat

Instead, why don't you blame the bloke who actually killed her, plonker?

Wouldn’t any mom, I know I would, wrong, I wouldn’t, because I would have NEVER. let her walk alone

I worry as well. If I don't hear from a loved one who was supposed to contact me I'd be tracking them down.

ID - to show that he is of age and can drink alcohol at bars....

Unlike the rest of the world a lot of young people even some adults in the UK don’t drive or have a drivers license, so they carry some other form of ID in this case a passport

Thank you for your like.

Completely agree. I dont trust anyone!

Or even walk with her daughter. There are so many sick people out there. Everyone needs to be careful and it's ok to be overprotecting sometimes.

Agree

​@@user-lu3fe5rt9iwouldn't the mother then be at risk returning home.

@@gerrywhelan5761 why return alone so late? She could stay there and leave in the morning. We must be super aware of our surroundings.

UK

@karenv5103 Hull, UK.

CLOWN

Young and headstrong. It's so sad. Poor girl wasn't thinking straight at that moment. Her mother is not at fault, the murderer is the one at fault here. 😢❤

Mrs H 🇬🇧 .... All had been drinking so they couldn't drive her home

@@Sheba8. Exactly other than what was mentioned on the program etc we don’t fully know what happened leading up to the horrific events that occurred yes I understand parents do their best to protect us and keep us safe from any kind of harm but they also want us to b independent Xx

Most of comments blame her boyfriend and mother, not murderer. It was her decission to walk alone at night . It was murderer's decission to kill her

No one drove her home cos they'd been drinking...

Probably but it’s ( as with parents too) for pet owners to worry about their pets I know cats are very independent animals but nonetheless Rachel’s kitties were like her children she just wanted to make sure they were safe I’m the same with my cats Xx

I 100% would have gone home too. My pets are like my children.

@@SatieSatie Same here I class my cats as my children Xx

Never been a pet person but when my wife brought Florence ( a little kitten) 🤦🏻‍♂️I can’t believe the effect she’s had having on me and family, we treat her like she’s our child ,she’s 2 now and we still talk to her like she’s a baby,covering her up when she’s sleeping 🤦🏻‍♂️closing curtains to keep the light out 🤦🏻‍♂️honestly she’s part of the family, so we get how much she cared for them and she was probably looking for comfort from them when your a little down (sometimes works for me)

She wasn't "just walking around". Go get a better hobby than casting aspersions on a murder victim.

If only she waited to the morning...