MiSTer Review - Game Sack

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Game Sack

Game Sack

5 жыл бұрын

Episode 247 - The MiSTer is an FPGA-based device that runs cores for many different platforms. It originates from the MiST project which had an initial goal of creating an FPGA version of the Atari ST computer. Curiously, there is no Atari ST core for the MiSTer at the time this video is being released, but I fully expect one in the future. I bought my MiSTer and the add-ons at the appropriately-named www.misteraddons.com and they were extremely helpful in helping me set up my MiSTer and also the making of this video, as was Smokemonster whose channel can be found here - / smokemonster
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@djramen
@djramen 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can't believe Joe replaced Dave with an FPGA-based device that runs cores for many different platforms.
@marcosdheleno
@marcosdheleno 5 жыл бұрын
TOO SOON MAN, TOO SOON.
@ninjamaster3453
@ninjamaster3453 5 жыл бұрын
I'm ok with this.
@nerone1984
@nerone1984 5 жыл бұрын
The difference Is not quite as noticable
@LloydLadera
@LloydLadera 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that was Joe in a new 3d printed shell.
@makoto4341
@makoto4341 5 жыл бұрын
The dave core is slightly off, needs less hair and more weight (j/k).
@marakarthegreat
@marakarthegreat 5 жыл бұрын
even though Dave is gone I am still gonna stick around
@rmyancey
@rmyancey 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. Been here for years and I'm not leaving now.
@DaRotWilder
@DaRotWilder 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t you mean..... sack around 😉
@rampart1234
@rampart1234 5 жыл бұрын
Dave is gone? I really didn't notice.
@marakarthegreat
@marakarthegreat 5 жыл бұрын
@@rampart1234 BLASPHEMY
@dodoubledragon
@dodoubledragon 5 жыл бұрын
Who's this Dave character ppl are talking about?
@ZaPpaul
@ZaPpaul 4 жыл бұрын
We need an updated mister review, it's come on a long way since this video was made.
@nidhoggsvrede
@nidhoggsvrede 3 жыл бұрын
How does it look now?
@blizzard1850
@blizzard1850 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, for computers, I forgot to mention: Amstrad PCW and EDSAC! For consoles, I forgot to mention that it now supports Game Boy Color games as well as the Super Game Boy!
@notsuoh16Bit
@notsuoh16Bit 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree.
@kranibal
@kranibal 3 жыл бұрын
I agree also!
@JoypadDivison
@JoypadDivison 3 жыл бұрын
@@nidhoggsvrede Some of what's happened since the video was uploaded is added support for: Sega CD, Pc Engine CD, Lynx, Atari 7800, Game Gear, GBA, various home computers + Neo Geo, CPS1 and a bunch of standalone arcade cores ... and there's always people working on stuff, CPS2 looks to be released in the near future and X68000 too. And that's just what I can think of.
@tazzeboy
@tazzeboy 5 жыл бұрын
"Currently there is no way to plug in your Sega 3D glasses, so if you want to play a 3D game, you can to straight to hell" And there goes my drink flying from my mouth onto my monitor screen, Thanks Joe :D
@CaptainStupendous
@CaptainStupendous 5 жыл бұрын
As long as you keep producing content, you've got a watcher for life.
@samghost13
@samghost13 5 жыл бұрын
Life until Death Gamesack is Cool! I am Stoked!
@Spolodaface
@Spolodaface 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to stop watching. That said, it would also be cool to see the odd 'guest' episode every now and again - just cause i'd like to see some GameSack collabs (and i'm used to the two-person / back and forth format)
@BlueflagAlpha
@BlueflagAlpha 5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@simplesimonspeaks1115
@simplesimonspeaks1115 5 жыл бұрын
Great Joe. Thnx for your hard work.
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 5 жыл бұрын
You have a viewer you mean ... A watcher just sounds creepy like your in a bush outside polishing your rocket...
@swoods08
@swoods08 5 жыл бұрын
Feels weird without him but you are still very informative!
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 5 жыл бұрын
same, but honestly if one had to go glad it was Dave... nothing against Dave; just he was clearly elsewhere for a while. As a parent i know that; 'this is my passion but life is eating me alive' feeling all too well.
@theflyingninja1
@theflyingninja1 5 жыл бұрын
@@anasevi9456 You're not making me want to have a kid any time soon 😅
@PhilShary
@PhilShary 5 жыл бұрын
@@anasevi9456 Well, Joe did at least 80% of work in the duo - he is responsible for the technical side, filming, editing, writing scripts I think as well, so without him Game Sack won't exist anymore.
@adamphillip5305
@adamphillip5305 5 жыл бұрын
Joe's done solo reviews for consoles before so this one didnt feel weird at all but once he does various gaming genres & such then it will.
@raymondslivinski1130
@raymondslivinski1130 5 жыл бұрын
swoods08 agreed
@dan_loup
@dan_loup 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest advantage of the FPGA based simulation is the audio delay. On software emulators, you have to use the CPU to simulate the audio circuits, and as you can't just write a program that updates the sound card 44100 times per second, you end up having to fill up a buffer, then sending the buffer and swapping etc.. so the sound ends a bit behind the video.
@ModernRetroGameplay
@ModernRetroGameplay 2 жыл бұрын
The solution to sound problems in emulating is simple, add at least 1 extra cpu core more than what you think you need when choosing the hardware so the sound alone can have a whole cpu to its self. (basically don't emulate on anything less than a quad core cpu) Today if you want the most bang for your buck on a real SUPER emulation device buy a laptop with specifically a 4K ready integrated GPU and an 8 core cpu(or 8 logical processors to be specific) like a late model i5cpu is good enough and make sure it has an actual hard drive of some kind in it and that would get you probably 1 step better than most devices in console emulation and it would have the space to fit every game for ever console even CD and DVD based consoles. That would probably be cheaper than an Xbox atm TBH lol. They even have HDMI out and enough usb ports for mutiplayer couch gaming on the go portable and it fits in a "Game Sack" lol so its not a pain to bring it to a friends house and plug it into a big tv. Another trick...... consoles had dedicated SPUs so to emulate that properly its not a good idea to send the sound through the HDMI, sending it anywhere else forces the integrated sound to do the sound processing giving it its own bandwidth on a separate processor like it should instead of making a GPU do the work of an SPU.
@dan_loup
@dan_loup 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernRetroGameplay You could indeed do that, but the OS might still interrupt it. But we're talking 20-30ms of audio delay nowadays if you use something like retroarch and configure it by hand, which is like 1-2 frames away.
@prufrockrenegade
@prufrockrenegade Жыл бұрын
Decided to rewatch this to reminisce about just how far things have come for the MiSTer project in the past few years. It would be cool to see you revisit this at some point, maybe to talk about some of the many more cores that have come out since then, the vastly improved video output/scaling options, or just to see how much more accurate some of the cores you already talked about have become these days. Overall the system definitely feels a lot less bare-bones today than it did back in 2019!
@davebladegun3009
@davebladegun3009 5 жыл бұрын
I’m lovin’ it, Joe. This is a damn fine episode of Game Sack.
@Gravy311
@Gravy311 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Gamesack still going!
@HesarealNoWhereMan
@HesarealNoWhereMan 5 жыл бұрын
Wait til the Mister Mister comes out!! 🎵Take..these broken games! And learn to play agaaaiin!!!🎶🎶
@Skellotronix
@Skellotronix 3 жыл бұрын
Mister Sister?
@ilikecurry2345
@ilikecurry2345 3 ай бұрын
That's Mister Mister Mister to you, Mister.
@TomVanDeusen
@TomVanDeusen 4 жыл бұрын
This video got me interested in the MISTer project (thank you!). I don't see a lot of comments one year out, so a few updates for anyone curious-- - Genesis has Model 1 sound option - Sega CD has been added (it's amazing) - Neo Geo has been added - Game Boy Advance has been added - There's an official case that feels and looks amazing - Tons of new Arcade boards, including some Capcom ones that are in development
@irving1313
@irving1313 5 жыл бұрын
We Keep supporting game sack til the end !! 👊🏻 , never give up Joe ! , and Dave we’re gonna miss you , but the show must go on
@manghariz2211
@manghariz2211 5 жыл бұрын
@@G_N_A_N You didnt know? Watch atari lynx episode till end
@MordecaiWalfish
@MordecaiWalfish 5 жыл бұрын
1. AWESOME VIDEO! Thanks for giving MiSTer a spin and sharing it with your viewers! 2. Some corrections: - The scaler and filters can be used via VGA output if you set vga_scaler=1 in the MiSTer.ini file - HDMI out can have almost as low a latency as VGA output if you use vsync_adjust=2 in the MiSTer.ini file (these ini settings can be changed via the scripts that download with the updater without editing anything, also) - Shimmering over HDMI can be greatly reduced/removed by using the Gaussian_Sharp filters. There are varying levels of sharpness to suit tastes there too. - Autosave has been added to most console cores, so you wont need to select the "Save backup RAM" option every time you exit a game. - Genesis audio now has selections for "Model 1", "Model 2", "Light Filter" and "Unfiltered", to suit tastes. - 2+ players works in supported games, simply by adding the controller in the main MiSTer menu first. after you do that, the cores can assign buttons to them correctly. - GBC didnt work most likely because you didn't add the correct BIOS, which is needed. 3. Additions: - MiSTer has already been updated with lightgun support that even works over HDMI. - Game Genie/Game Shark cheat codes have been added for all the major consoles. - Extremely low latency input options are coming in the form of the LLCoolJoy, Blissbox's BlisSTer (retropad32 will also have serial connection capability in the future iirc) - Coming Soon: TGFX CD & Dodonpachi Arcade - If you encounter any glitches or errors in a game, report them on the MiSTer github page for the applicable core! Issues get fixed surprisingly quick, but only if they are known!
@chigimonky
@chigimonky 5 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks! Just got mine the other day. Only thing that confuses me is I can't load streets of rage 2. I've tried 2 roms that I got from my everdrive sd card and both load to black screen on mister. They work no prob on the everdrive.
@GameSack
@GameSack 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional info! But I'm talking REAL lightgun support, not mouse lightgun support. Real lightguns can't work over HDMI (well, the Zapper might but the Zapper works differently than the Light Phaser, Menacer and SuperScope). The mouse lightgun support (for Zapper) was added after this video was finished production.
@ghogan42
@ghogan42 5 жыл бұрын
@@chigimonky That's strange. Streets of Rage 2 is obviously a frequently played game and has worked forever on mister. I'm not sure what could be wrong here.
@MordecaiWalfish
@MordecaiWalfish 5 жыл бұрын
@@GameSack Mouse is not required. Wiimotes can be used as a lightgun in NES now, with support for other cores likely coming soon. It's not proper lightgun support, but that is in the works for analog output as well =) The BlisSTer addon, LLCoolJoy and RetroPad32 will all likely be able to support this. They will connect via serial to eliminate usb lag for extremely low latency controller connections, including Light Guns.
@MordecaiWalfish
@MordecaiWalfish 5 жыл бұрын
@@chigimonky come join us on the Classic Gaming Discord (linked in video description) to get help with any issues you might be encountering. Lots of friendly and helpful folks there.
@Magus12000BC
@Magus12000BC 5 жыл бұрын
"If you want to play a 3D game, you can go straight to hell." Oddly enough, those almost sound like words to live by considering the current state of the gaming market.
@TastyAbbyJamz
@TastyAbbyJamz 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Rewatched it again after messing with the MiSTer all evening. It'd be cool to see an updated MiSTer video with all the advancements and additions that have come about in the past 2 years. :D
@ErinfromDenver
@ErinfromDenver 5 жыл бұрын
You're doing a wonderful job as always, Joe. Yeah, I miss Dave, but you're definitely still making it worth my while to stick around. Thanks for all the great content. Keep it coming! And oh yeah, the MiSTer is RAD! Do you think it will support Pico 8 any time soon?
@darkcoeficient
@darkcoeficient 5 жыл бұрын
Wait I am put of the loop. What happened with Dave?
@aquaglow1
@aquaglow1 5 жыл бұрын
@@darkcoeficient Dave left the show to spend more time with his family, since he has a full-time job too
@darkcoeficient
@darkcoeficient 5 жыл бұрын
@@aquaglow1 oh. Thank you. Good for him. These things are not easy at all. If there is so much going on then something will drop in quality. End of an era I guess.
@Akuzastar
@Akuzastar 5 жыл бұрын
During the outrun moment my cat got scared and ran away. Great. Thanks MiSTer.
@dunxy
@dunxy 5 жыл бұрын
Because cat,not outrun's fault! Cats are retarded,i still love them though.
@TheGriffonscribe
@TheGriffonscribe 5 жыл бұрын
"The part where we talk about." We. Pour one out for Dave. Still around in our hearts.
@EGADCOMICS
@EGADCOMICS 5 жыл бұрын
It would be funny to edit dave into every episode with a split screen looping clip of him sitting next to you. You can ask him questions and he can just stare at the camera while blinking or you can use a "yes, joe" or "i agree" clip every time you ask him a question.
@YoungBideo
@YoungBideo 2 жыл бұрын
Would be hilarious. Hope everything was on good terms
@Freako
@Freako 5 жыл бұрын
I usually stop watching when a host leaves a show, but that's because they don't tell you why or whats going on. So, thank you for being transparent! Great episode Joe!
@Turai12
@Turai12 5 жыл бұрын
Helps that there was no drama, wasn't sudden. Like, we got a "warning" two episodes before he left. I think that does a lot.
@niXity9000
@niXity9000 5 жыл бұрын
That's super dumb dude.
@iwonderifthisislegal
@iwonderifthisislegal 5 жыл бұрын
@@niXity9000 right? Lol
@josephrowe2202
@josephrowe2202 5 жыл бұрын
Why do they owe you an explanation?
@ganonzero1
@ganonzero1 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephrowe2202 It's not that they owe us an explanation, but if Dave just disappeared without saying anything, that leaves room for lots of speculation. Most people would assume bad blood between them, and be turned off. This way we understand why he left, and it's allows us throw on our support behind Joe fully.
@CamelliaSinensis
@CamelliaSinensis 5 жыл бұрын
Love the layered transition
@trashandchaos
@trashandchaos 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man you've got to do an update on this. The MiSTer is amazing these days.
@rooskiwolf1653
@rooskiwolf1653 4 жыл бұрын
"If you want to play a Sega 3D game you can go straight to Hell". Perfect.
@akerasi
@akerasi 5 жыл бұрын
Tip for the MSX core: You can mount that hard drive image on your PC with the SD card plugged into it, and manually unzip everything so you don't have to wait for the incredibly slow unzipping. After that, it's become my favorite core, honestly. Probably mostly as it's a platform I missed otherwise, and is really awesome.
@GameSack
@GameSack 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 жыл бұрын
This episode really tickled my horn. Thanks man!
@dagttv
@dagttv Жыл бұрын
This deserves and update--MiSTer cores and accessories have come so far in the past few years
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 2 жыл бұрын
I vote on an update video. The MiSTer has gotten so much in the 2 or so years since this video. WonderSwan, Neo Geo, even Capcom CPS1 and 2 are all represented now and then some. Give it to us, Dave!
@JomasterTheSecond
@JomasterTheSecond 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the pilot episode of After Dave: Game Sack X.
@sheepnoisebah
@sheepnoisebah 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like a gundam show
@fortitude9932
@fortitude9932 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to more gumby game graphics and solo joe sack!
@chamchamtrigger
@chamchamtrigger 5 жыл бұрын
The AD era? I see what you did there.
@corronchilejano
@corronchilejano 5 жыл бұрын
GameSack 2: The sacking
@martinrc80
@martinrc80 5 жыл бұрын
The sackining
@codygratias9780
@codygratias9780 5 жыл бұрын
Still the same great quality sack content, keep it up, Joe!
@SiD3WiNDR
@SiD3WiNDR 2 жыл бұрын
Those screen transitions are amazing. (yes, I'm 2 years late but still.. wanted to mention) !
@Vvardenfell_Outlander
@Vvardenfell_Outlander 5 жыл бұрын
I look forward to your videos every Sunday. Thank you for giving me something awesome to watch every Sunday morning. Keep up the great work.
@Locutus73
@Locutus73 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, please try vsync_adjust=2 in MiSTer.ini (vsync_low_latency script) for removing stuttering and lag from the HDMI output. Some TV sets may have problems (especially with specific cores), but most will work. You can even have per core settings in the ini (so falling back to vsync_adjust=0 for very specific cores). Try custom filters (it's a core menu option) like Gaussian Sharp 4 or higher, for best quality scaling with no shimmering.
@darthv72
@darthv72 5 жыл бұрын
I think the stuttering was in the video itself. I saw it on non game play segments too. It might have been his rendering software for the final output.
@Locutus73
@Locutus73 5 жыл бұрын
darthv72 let me explain vsync_adjust setting. With vsync_adjust=0 (the default, out of the box value) MiSTer scaler (which sits between the “virtual/mimicked” console/computer RGB output and the real HDMI out) uses a triple buffer and the original display frequency; so if you i.e. set the HDMI out to 1080p60 you get a video out at 60Hz (best TV compatibility) while, if you use the SNES core, the console video out is at 60.09Hz, so the scaler, through the triple buffer, scales the image and does frame pacing introducing 2 frames of lag and some stuttering (but no tearing). If you set vsync_adjust=1, the scaler still uses a triple buffer (so 2 frames of lag) but it uses the console/computer video out frequency, so no more stuttering but you can get some incompatibility between weird frequencies and some TV sets not supporting them. With vsync_adjust=2 the scaler uses a single buffer (actually just few lines of buffering) and the original console/computer frequency: if your TV supports it, this is the best mode, with just few lines (sub 1 frame, probably less than 1millisecond) of lag and no stuttering: actually the same as an OSSC, but with the added benefit of having a real scaler and not just a line multiplier.
@darthv72
@darthv72 5 жыл бұрын
@@Locutus73 I think you are reading to much into my comment. I'm not saying your suggestion is wrong, quite the contrary. I just noticed a stuttering in the overall video, meaning his render was not clean so it stutters every few seconds throughout the entire thing. Kind of like a buffer issue and I know i'm not the only one who noticed.
@korohacker
@korohacker 5 жыл бұрын
Omg that intro to the Amiga Outrun had me in stitches! Why is it so intense? And yay, end skit!
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
The reason why Amiga Outrun has the intense intro is because European devs back in the day were completely and utterly off their faces on synthetic drugs which had to be outlawed.
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit were still on them 😂
@sethman75
@sethman75 5 жыл бұрын
Amiga was just cool like that. They always threw in little tweaks like that...
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 5 жыл бұрын
@@sethman75 This. Nes and consoels were more towards kids and stuff, Amiga and the likes used to have more "professional" easter eggs and tweaks like this. intro to Lotus 3 was similar
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 4 жыл бұрын
There really needs to be a follow-up video for this as most of the cores for it have been perfected now. The state of the MISTer is leaps and bounds better than it was just a year ago and growing at a rapid pace.
@solarstrike33
@solarstrike33 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobs8005 Hello there!
@ReigningSemtex
@ReigningSemtex 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this Joe I have been looking into the Mister recently. Great episode as always.
@SNC2319
@SNC2319 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll give the ‘post Dave’ era a chance. Interesting video by the way.
@GameSack
@GameSack 5 жыл бұрын
That's all I can ask. And thanks!
@welcometoGARYVILLE
@welcometoGARYVILLE 5 жыл бұрын
Game Sack I think we owe it to you after many good years of entertaining videos!
@antster1983
@antster1983 5 жыл бұрын
@MultiTarded I believe the plan is that Dave will pop up on the odd occasion for an end skit or even a full episode.
@xenobestx8423
@xenobestx8423 5 жыл бұрын
Who watches GameSack at 2:00 AM? *OH BOY 2 AM!*
@rogerspacebucks450
@rogerspacebucks450 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@ALTDOK667
@ALTDOK667 5 жыл бұрын
11:04pm here.
@Gui.Vieira_
@Gui.Vieira_ 5 жыл бұрын
3 AM here in Brazil.
@DubKings
@DubKings 5 жыл бұрын
I watch it at 11 PM! Time Zones all up in this mfkr! lol
@Falcnuts
@Falcnuts 5 жыл бұрын
REAL GAMESACK HOURS WHO UP
@vaporwave2345
@vaporwave2345 5 жыл бұрын
That ending skit was HILARIOUS my dude. 👍
@MrPoestyle
@MrPoestyle 5 жыл бұрын
Great solo outing Joe . Same great research as always . The only thing I was worried about was the final sketch , but I was not disappointed in the least . Hilarious !!!! 10/10 .
@BootsThaRareBirb
@BootsThaRareBirb 5 жыл бұрын
The EU region could've done worse than just squashed the resolution and slowed it down. After all, you didn't mention any deadly drops of water before you switched to US.
@Chaos89P
@Chaos89P 5 жыл бұрын
That happens in NTSC regions, too, but only in Europe-developed games.
@bayonetwork77
@bayonetwork77 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode, I’d be happy if there was more techie type videos like this in the future that I know you like making Joe
@EmilianoFraga
@EmilianoFraga 5 жыл бұрын
Joe, thanks for keeping this channel. Excellent video review.
@strain42
@strain42 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting choice of topic for your first solo episode, Joe. Really technical and very educational.
@electronash
@electronash 5 жыл бұрын
5:51
@electronash
@electronash 5 жыл бұрын
7:16 - the latency via HDMI is now apparently less than one frame on average. The display itself of course adds a bit more, and that amount depends on the model / make. An overclocking option should be quite trivial to add to the core. I think it's been on the (very long) MiSTer todo list for a while. lol
@electronash
@electronash 5 жыл бұрын
7:23 - I tried fixing that interlaced mode for two-player on the core years ago (before MiSTer was a thing), but didn't quite make it. lol gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1327&sid=ce45efc1aac6d0d7dd2f7f295a81eb2d&start=45 Luckily, Mr Sorgelig finally fixed that a few months ago. It should be possible to add an option to the core to force the interlaced mode to output as progressive. (with no tearing or "mouse teeth" at all). That might prevent the analog RGB / Component output working in that mode, though.
@electronash
@electronash 5 жыл бұрын
There IS an Atari ST core, btw, but it's just not open-source yet. (vid description.)
@electronash
@electronash 5 жыл бұрын
15:27 Yes. ;) Well, soon-ish. lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLmBlqWZlticp5s.html Mr Furrtek is also making progress with CD support for his Neo Geo core. It promises to be one of the most accurate cores, as he spent years reverse-engineering the custom chips from the original machine.
@electronash
@electronash 5 жыл бұрын
btw, quite a few C64 and Amiga games require the joystick to be on port 2, hence the joyswap option in the OSD. Plus, a lot of the games for those systems only work properly in PAL mode. Other Amiga games require the OCS/ECS or AGA mode switch, some need the Kickstart 1.3 ROM or a Degrader, and some have specific RAM requirements. This is not a limitation of the core itself, but was an issue with certain games on the original hardware. Some Amiga games also require you to hit the mouse button to get past the intro / crack screens etc., which is the same as hitting fire on joyport 2. Not sure why the MSX games really need to be zipped. It is very slow to unpack them, so the ROM pack could probably do with being tweaked there. The larger SD cards are quite cheap now, but you can also use USB storage with MiSTer, like a 2.5" HDD. There is also support for Cloud storage for things like save games, but I haven't tried that yet.
@_zoinks2554
@_zoinks2554 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, you're still alive even with half a sac!
@ReallyCoolSite
@ReallyCoolSite 5 жыл бұрын
My *former* brother in law lost half of his to cancer. Went on to have 3 kids by my sister and 10? 12? By the people of Wal-mart. He shows that even half a sack works!
@jameshenderson4089
@jameshenderson4089 5 жыл бұрын
i'm so happy you decided to continue game sack without dave. You rock joe please never stop.
@zeroamericanhero
@zeroamericanhero 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the other guy? Where is the other host? I liked him
@bobs8005
@bobs8005 4 жыл бұрын
zeroamericanhero He’s onto another Sack
@LupusRexRgis
@LupusRexRgis 5 жыл бұрын
Great show, I’m not only reviewing concepts but also learning new things in pretty much each episode!
@K3zster
@K3zster 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview of the MiSTer, super thorough and your attention to detail is amazing! In the Amiga game launcher though, you can just hold up to bring up the alphabet and go straight to the letter you want.. :) Running games this way is kinda "non-standard" even on a real Amiga, so a lot of the issues you might have can be representative of the actual experience, it was a PC after all. You can also configure the Amiga to run like a 500 instead of a 1200, and just boot games from floppy images - many games run better this way I find.
@noth606
@noth606 4 жыл бұрын
K3zster Lol, heck even on the real hardware half the stuff doesn't run or doesn't run right, so I think the MiSTer is doing it justice. But also I would expect A500 with floppy images to be the least problematic as that's how it is in real life as well, as soon as you throw anything else into it like turbo cards, HDD's etc one should expect some wonkyness.
@104d_3rr0r_vince
@104d_3rr0r_vince 5 жыл бұрын
Minimig is a stand alone fpga board, that explains the name. Also if the games that flicker on loading a WHDLoad installs and there is no option for preload is normal. It emulates floppy disk loading from the hard disk. This is done on Amigas with low ram.
@jayminer
@jayminer 5 жыл бұрын
To be a bit more in-depth, the reason the loading flickers to black is because WHDLoad (which is a program for installing games that originally was only playable from floppy on a hard disk) needs to turn on multi-tasking and the operating system when loading and then switch back to the game. And indeed the games can be preloaded into RAM if there is enough memory available, usually with 8MB RAM or more you never see any black flashes.
@Jona2Roa
@Jona2Roa 5 жыл бұрын
Gracias por seguir con este proyecto, hace 4 años que veo sus vídeos y me alegra mucho que está su pasión no se esfume por los problemas que pudieron tener, seguiré aquí viendo este gran contenido. Lamento escribir en español, me da un poco de pereza hacerlo en inglés, al menos esta vez.
@georgehartman4157
@georgehartman4157 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I'm really enjoying your episodes about fpga consoles. You have great attention to detail when it comes to pointing out the differences compared to original hardware. It's nice that you include a lot of info about the different settings and ways to get around certain issues with accuracy. I'd be interested to see some future episodes like this about emulators if you have any interest in making them.
@TrashfordKent
@TrashfordKent 5 жыл бұрын
Neat review, editing on point as always. I've got the original Mist which runs the ST and Amiga cores really well, that said it can't do the Genesis and Snes or at least not as well. Will probably pick up this updated version , thanks for the links, i'll check them out.
@Locutus73
@Locutus73 5 жыл бұрын
Controllers: if you plug a second (and third, fourth, etc.) controller in MiSTer, the first controller you use in a core is console controller 1, the second you use is controller 2 and so on. IIRC multitap is supported in cores like SNES. Oh, btw, recently Wiimote support was added with Zapper implementation in NES core... pretty neat.
@Trimint123
@Trimint123 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminder. I mean, that'll be sucks if you can't play multiplayer on this thing.
@chigimonky
@chigimonky 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. That'll be very sucks.
@Locutus73
@Locutus73 5 жыл бұрын
Porter Rockwell I don’t understand, maybe I wasn’t very clear with my explanation: MiSTer do support multiplayer.
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 5 жыл бұрын
@@Trimint123 is there any other multi system console that allows you to do that, since you are asking it with so much "taking for granted" attitude?
@OleMenn
@OleMenn 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love those transitions where you separate the games' graphics layers. I have no idea how hard that is to do, but it looks wonderful. Keep up the good work, Joe!
@jackbootshamangaming4541
@jackbootshamangaming4541 3 жыл бұрын
I got my MiSTer going on two weeks ago and I love it. These cores have all improved so very much.
@Ge604
@Ge604 5 жыл бұрын
Still feels odd to see an episode without Dave, but glad that you're keeping it going Joe, and the content is still high quality!
@anavash
@anavash 5 жыл бұрын
Wow what a strange and versatile device! Complex too geez. I've never even heard of it before. One of the reasons I love your channel is because you always covered so many things I was unaware of like that Panasonic Laseractive! :D Another outstanding episode, Joe! It's obvious you'll be completely fine on your own! Your editing skills are so good now. And thank you for keeping the outros going - that was funny! But I will miss Dave stealing your Snatchers and clobbering you. (The pic of him on the website was great too.) Cheers man! Game Sack for lyfe!
@tomgunn9011
@tomgunn9011 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing this awesome show! Really great episode.
@EmperorOfTigers
@EmperorOfTigers 5 жыл бұрын
You did a fantastic job Joe. Thank you for including an after credits scene as well. Really informative video and have to say I'm very tempted to look into setting up a Mister for myself.
@darkosadzak
@darkosadzak 5 жыл бұрын
Feels bit different but no issues. Actually, I appreciate mentioning Amiga and C64. For European gamers these were bigger than consoles. Keep up good work.
@richardotten6467
@richardotten6467 5 жыл бұрын
Good review. Interesting product. I was worried that Dave was gonna be replaced by a Sweet potato or a straw hat, but you handled it maturely. Kudos!
@GanjsmostPrime
@GanjsmostPrime 5 жыл бұрын
Man what a solid episode for your first solo run! Good work Joel
@RetroRockGamer
@RetroRockGamer 5 ай бұрын
The MiSTer deserves a follow-up video. It's absolutely amazing right now.
@TehNewParalyzer
@TehNewParalyzer 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the quality was amazing and even without Dave you made an epic episode. Glad Game Sack is sticking around.
@SpoonyBard88
@SpoonyBard88 5 жыл бұрын
Joe and his wife have always done most of the production work for the show, I understand. That is not to take anything away from Dave, who is, and always will be, a kickass dude.
@Mcbundage
@Mcbundage 5 жыл бұрын
You can tweak the video options for HDMI - integer scaling, v sync, video filters - they help get a really sharp image.
@ganjam0n
@ganjam0n 5 жыл бұрын
i love the detail you go into when you review these devices, great vid
@jsc315
@jsc315 5 жыл бұрын
Was wondering when you were going to do a video on this. I have thought about digging more into what this device is. So thank you for this video, this was very helpful.
@gez9145
@gez9145 5 жыл бұрын
great review of an incredibly exciting and promising system!
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with F-16 Fighting Falcon on the Genesis is that it uses a legacy graphics mode in the Master System's VDP. Basically the Master System VDP is an enhanced version of the same Texas Instruments VDP family that was used in the Coleco Vision and MSX, and the Genesis VDP is a further development of the Master system's VDP. The Genesis VDP retains the Master System specific graphic modes but not the older legacy modes.
@grandmastabrick
@grandmastabrick 5 жыл бұрын
Really love the closed captions explaining the music
@squishsquishimafish6348
@squishsquishimafish6348 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you managed to squeeze in the post-video skit at the end too. I don't think I can look at that version of Outrun the same ever again.
@chowdown
@chowdown 5 жыл бұрын
D-did you just cover me with your sack at the beginning?
@Spielmeister456
@Spielmeister456 5 жыл бұрын
hey man, how'd you do that cool ass layer transition?
@TheKidDoc81
@TheKidDoc81 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I would actually really like to know how to do that. Hopefully the software isn't Mac exclusive.
@MordecaiWalfish
@MordecaiWalfish 5 жыл бұрын
looks like its organized by color groupings- pull set color ranges from the images separately and add the parts together to an animation. could be by using the layer hide/view settings in an emulator also though, and probably much easier that way
@SleepingCocoon
@SleepingCocoon 4 жыл бұрын
@@MordecaiWalfish definitely color groupings! doing it with emulator layers would require recording input then playing it back several times with multiple recording passes, and would be a pain in the ass to key out since it'd all just be on black (and many of these systems only have one sprite and one BG layer)
@rfp313
@rfp313 4 жыл бұрын
What is an ass layer?
@subsonix_
@subsonix_ 5 жыл бұрын
That outrun part is absolutely hilarious! Great video! Love it! Looks like a fun piece of kit to play about with
@H00ps
@H00ps 5 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. I like how Joe is seated to the right and leaves space on the left as if Dave is still there.
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 5 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, that Outrun announcer is creepy 😨 But the episode and content is awesome! Maybe this device is something for me in the future.
@daveglo100
@daveglo100 5 жыл бұрын
good video, keep the emu stuff coming, I'm obsessed with finding the best emulator for the money, particularly handhelds
@jackburke2462
@jackburke2462 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode Joe! I love your style and how informative you are.
@julsbarracuda9892
@julsbarracuda9892 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this was a really good episode! Thanks for keeping up the good work! (And for keeping the skits)
@johnstauffer741
@johnstauffer741 5 жыл бұрын
"That's right, Joe." -Dave White
@spritefun9362
@spritefun9362 5 жыл бұрын
I never noticed my PAL games were slower than US games until I started emulating games about 10 years later lol.
@RodniDemental
@RodniDemental 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, still trips me out today with the music sometimes when you expect the slower tempo.
@dunxy
@dunxy 5 жыл бұрын
Same, being in a PAL country, this wasn't something i discovered until some time around 2000 when i discovered MAME. I was like WTF this games NOT how i remember it,speed wise anyway!
@socrates0603
@socrates0603 5 жыл бұрын
Fabulous skit! Great script, humor, and production as always. Thanks, Joe.
@andreperez8961
@andreperez8961 5 жыл бұрын
It's so weird to watch a video without Dave. Also, great video! FYI, The sketch at the end was amazing.
@mrshootinputin7251
@mrshootinputin7251 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I lived nearby you. I so would wanna be your side kick on Game Sack.
@PSNationTorgo
@PSNationTorgo 5 жыл бұрын
I just got a MiSTer a couple of weeks ago, and once I got past the learning curve, I've been having a blast with it! Great job on this overview.
@mrtoast79
@mrtoast79 5 жыл бұрын
I really was not sure how the end skit would go, or if there would even be one. I sure wasn't disappointed! Good job!
@downforwardjab5503
@downforwardjab5503 5 жыл бұрын
Watching Game Sack tickles my horn. Great job on the first solo vid, Joe! This is a really neat device that I knew nothing about before watching.
@8thLife
@8thLife 5 жыл бұрын
"If you want to play a 3-D game you can go straight to hell" 😂
@lukasperuzovic1429
@lukasperuzovic1429 4 жыл бұрын
ALL WE DO IN HELL IS PLAY DDR!!!
@allissondiego1989
@allissondiego1989 5 жыл бұрын
I always love when Joe says "you can go straight to hell"
@Nexum120
@Nexum120 5 жыл бұрын
What an excellent intro, Joe! It's great to see that smiling mug!
@jeffroberts9693
@jeffroberts9693 5 жыл бұрын
The new era begins! I'm here for all of it. Great episode! I've been curious about this.
@alfredocanas6802
@alfredocanas6802 5 жыл бұрын
About time the Mister gets some coverage by some of the big channels on youtube, I bet Smokemonster would be proud.
@ChristopherSobieniak
@ChristopherSobieniak 5 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad, we pronounce Lagrange wrong in my town for centuries!
@sneaksmcgeeks9814
@sneaksmcgeeks9814 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! I've been Watching for 6 yrs and I'm not stopping ever! Great job Game Sack!
@arhernan2008
@arhernan2008 5 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video... man those transitions are awesome between games!
@DrLilo
@DrLilo 5 жыл бұрын
I love my MiSTer. For me, it's completely replaced software emulation in the role of "fall-back measure" for when you don't currently own a specific console/computer. And to be honest, there's a couple of consoles I do own, that due to things like capacitor health or poor mod-work, actually output less pleasing results than their respective MiSTer core. EDIT: btw the few C64 games you couldn't get to play are likely ones where you need to swap to controller port 2. There wasn't standardisation back then as to which port to use, so gamers had to swap on a per game basis.
@goo3r
@goo3r 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, I had the same issue with Game Boy Color games on my MiSTer. Turns out you need a GBC bios to be loaded to be able to load GBC roms. Works perfect now.
@poop24
@poop24 5 жыл бұрын
This is still a great show!! I look forward to watching it every Sunday morning.
@RaphaelCarvalhoDiniz
@RaphaelCarvalhoDiniz 5 жыл бұрын
Holy sh*t what a great transition on 7:50. It's amazing, for real. Thanks for keeping it up, Joe. For sure we are all sad with Dave leaving, but you are amazing and we are very happy with the channel continuing. :) Thanks! :)
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