I checked my email at that moment, I was confused. This cleared it up lol.

laughed my ass off XD

Oh my god I laughed out loud at your comment. Thanks for the lol

"I spe-*ba-dum* hold on Mon one second..."

"Congratulations to becoming Warchief!" - Rokhan

I see.. Only milking before me

I see... only a blue thing dying as soon as he becomes warchief

+GamingSpoiler I thought that was my computer wtf was that?

Kendell White Sometimes when you're recording, Notification sounds (Skype, FaceBook or Webmail) will be accidentally caught on the audio, most probably, the video recorder got an email while recording the video, I think

ha nice XD

Same here. I've been having fun in DF but I've had enough of the we're all friends, we've just been through a lot of trauma, help me understand your feelings, etc etc. I started leveling a dark ranger through the forsaken starting zones and maaaaan we need some good ol fashioned alliance vs horde back!!

See how Varian looked in the Ulduar cinematic

You mean when Gul'Dan fixed him to the perfection?

even worse look at Jana

YA MON!

I can just see him taking a long draw from a hookah as he says " for dah horde"

YA MON! Stey awey from da Voodoo :D

Then he dies without doing anything and the Horde is given a shitty leader who ends up being mind controlled.

*Warlords of Draenor* + *Legion*

Thanks to that bronze Drake..

Swear to God, if Thrall killed him right then and there, Varian wouldn't have died, Sylvanas wouldn't have gone paranoid and we wouldn't have had YET ANOTHER WAR BETWEEN THE ALLIANCE AND THE HORDE on our hands. Varian, you went out like a boss. But you only went out because you were an idiot. Still an Alliance dude, tho.

@@gerardlacroix6015 Dude Legion was the best since Wrath

@@Daioblis Actually that's questionable if Varian would have died or not because even without WoD we still would have gotten Legion (Xavius could have summoned all the demons on the Broken Shore, so they didn't really need to make Gul'dan do it)

Trolls are big compared to humans. All horde races are, save for forsaken. Even Sin'Dorei dwarf a human.

Austin Garcia Your forgetting Goblins, a bit smaller then humans, but who cares about the little green boogers. Orc's are the real badasses.

Austin Garcia Sin'dorei are on average like 3 inches taller than a human.

That's what she said.

If a troll stands up straight, he is usually 9 feet or so. And this is only Jungle Trolls.

Fuck you man, just fuck you >:'(

both of them are dead and war is closing in, again.

Mega oof.

Varian is dead and Vol'Jin probably will be an Loa in the future

no he doesn't,he's just skinny

+Pesamosca Antonio no really look at his legs they don't add up

+Saeed Adel loool,yes

CANNOT UNSEE

I will never unsee this now... thanks

I SPEAK FOR DA HORDEEE

He is.

This comment haven't aged well lmao

@@Eluno91 elaborate,i havent been keeping up lol

@@ndttvclipsreborn If you havent told been yet: *deeep inhale* Voljin does nothing of importance, garrosh gets taken to a different draenor, creates the Iron Horde, attacks our azeroth, is defeated , then Legion comes and voljin is wounded and poisend from a random fel guard like a low level barren npc, moments before death in ogrimmar he has a vision of sylvanas to be the right warchief, so he proclaims her and she declares war on everyone by burning down teldrassil so saurfang starts a Rebellion and we Attack ogrimmar the 2nd time only to discover that Sylvanas has been working this whole time with a bald nipple guy from the realm of death and flies away in banshee Mode so we decide the Concept of a warchief is dumb and we will create some sort of supervisory Board for the Horde….. *exhales* Wanna still Play?

@@Das_Kaenguru ah so voljin giving her the title caused battle of azeroth, i was wondering why she was on demon time lol

Going up too Vol'Jin like that took a lot of balls.

***** and the fact he didn't start a conflict and saying he's willing to end the existing fight between the Horde and Alliance, that took restraint.

bubba485 Maybe we'll finally have a moment of true peace between our people and the alliance. Maybe.

Knowing the lore-hogs that would be an upset.

bubba485 XD Yeah

After what he's been through thanks to Horde races, you can't really blame him.

***** There was a truce for a while after the third war. But territory tensions in various places of the world (Alterac, Arathi, Ashenvale for example) have weakened the truce in Classic. BC had almost strengthened it again, then the Lich King attacked, and Garrosh's quest for glory have reignited the tensions in Northrend. In Cataclism Garrosh tensions escalated with the invasion of Gilneas and Ashenvale, the attacks in the Barrens and many other places, coming into a full scale war at the end. Mists picks it up here, but you can say that Garrosh is the one that bullied the truce since Lich King, Varian's pigheadedness aggravated the all thing and what happened in Siege may be a relief after all this nonsense infighting

***** well if you think about it put yourself in Varian's shoes they murdered his father destroyed his nation and massacred his friends his family his own nation was purged by them if you were him would you forgive them also

Horde players hate varian because he threatened the horde... Because they'll be damned if *gasp* the horde is WRONG for a change? Or even worse... there's somebody in the alliance more BADASS than anyone in the horde? Honestly, Jaina is the most badass of the alliance, and in my mind she SHOULD have drowned orgrimmar. My own personal opinion...

***** I'm not a gnome player, mostly the other races, but a majority of them are nelfs, humans, and the Worgen.

Pinco pallo Vol'Jin is about 10 feet if he stood straight up which Male Trolls rarely ever do

FOR THE ALLIANCE!!!

for the alliance!!!!!!

Vicente P FOR THE HORDE!!! Ish-Ne-Alo Por-Ah! May the Earthmother smile upon you!

Vicente P For Thrall For Vol'jin LOK"TAR OGAR FOR THE HORDE DEATH TO THE ALLIANCE

Vicente P Down with the Alliance! FOR THE HORDE!!

The leaders of the horde can, the players cant lol

Thrall learned Common before he's learned orcish, Gallywix learned it because common is the trade language on azeroth, Sylvanas was once an elf and an ally of the alliance, like the bloodelves and Lorthemar. It's more a kind of a question, why these leaders besides Thrall speak Orcisch. The only ones who had to learn common would be Vol'jin and especially Baine, since he never could have any contact to the races outside of Kalimdor.

Oh, yeah i see - might've forgotten some lore points there. Now it makes sense to me, thanks!

gue ckrafgs kjdjh garfst erdgs, hgs ugrsfa lodst kek

My guess would be that they probably have spells that translate for them.

*cough* …Teldrassil…

*Narrator voice* It did not play out well

Nice Warcraft picture,and it all depends on your point of view.I play as Alliance(better quests in my opinion) but I am truly for the Horde,and the Alliance was being a bit di**ish.

Fuck

Disco Bubba yeah dont talk k?

***** Or you could blame the pandas for not getting rid of Garrosh afterwards.

***** Just sayin', can't only blame the alliance.

***** Whatever the pandas did, did not help either though.

***** Yea the design for Varian is really crappy imo, Anduins personality is more fit for a king rather than Varian listening to what others tell him. However kowing blizzard, they might kill Anduin

@@Wildchildinc Well, a Wrynn definitely was killed.

this comment did not age well

@@DolchiStudio "Times change." - Garrosh Hellscream

I thought that was Lor'themar XD

Sure but I was there like all the greatest events =P I'm important xD haha lol

+Reid Janush Once you go Troll, you never re-roll ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

InoshiKenshi but que's take so long q-q

yeah, believe me ive leared to either way its quite ironic how alliance wins yet they have the longest que's

meh, i win alot on my lock(horde) in 2's

dats racist mon

Well, there was that. Then the leader of the Sunreavers in Dalaran helped smuggle horde soldiers into Darnassus where the divine bell (a sha artifact) was being held. Then she got pissed when Garrosh hit Anduin, shattering his bones (though, he's healed before the siege obviously). So, she's lost faith in her old ideals and has a lot of distrust towards the Horde.

It's also a feeling of betrayal. She worked with Thrall so much to bring peace between the Horde and Alliance, then he puts Garrosh in charge of the Horde and Garrosh did all the stuff he did. Jaina blames Thrall for it.

guardiangarasu What about the Sha corrupting her?

She hasn't been corrupted by the sha.

guardiangarasu Well it wasn't Thrall's fault Garrosh was in charge, Thrall left to bring back order with the elements. By the time he came back Garrosh had built his stand among the horde.

Garrosh Hellscream (the then warchief), abused the dalaran portals to sneak a big ass mana bomb into Theramore. The explosion was set off, Theramore was turned into a smoking crater (literally, in game), Rhonin dies, and Jaina is injured (apparently being super magey that she is, somehow survived) and as a result, her hair turned almost entirely white (presumably due to the magic of the explosion). For a few weeks during the event, I thought here hair was just buggy or missing textures.

***** Rhonin shoved her ass through a portal right before the mana bomb went off, which is the only reason why she survived it.

oh okey. weird seeing her all hostile like this : /

I never knew why she so Cray but her hair is mostly white because she had to fight a Demon/Dreadlord and he was to powerfull for her so this other mage that was jaina's idle gave her all of her power and jaina got some of her hair color..its weird i know xD.

Drew .J I think I just lost some brain cells reading that

+Viktor Trojovský Nope, from a lore standpoint the Alliance is stronger. It controls allot more territory, it has a much larger population, it has a much stronger economy, it has FAR superior technology and is by FAR more politically stable. The Horde might be more baddass with cooler races. But anyone who has read the books would know that the Alliance would win a full out war. Why? Because it has beaten the horde time and time again.

+BJJGamer alliance beated horde most of the times..

+BJJGamer If Horde and Alliance were to fight, I think I would give it to Horde.. The only one who would be capable of matching Thrall is Malfurion Stormrage and no one else would stand a chance, since Thrall is the earth-warder now and that leaves us with everything else and since horde has a lot of weapons capable of mass destruction and aces like Undead and etc.. Idk

Luky- so Thrall is not the earth warder anymore though. He only filled the void left by Neltharion to reunite the aspects. But when the aspects lost their' power, so did he. So he is back to being a regular shaman again. And I am not talking about the racial leaders, I am talking about the races themselves.

He destroyed a prison-thing holding Y'Sharjjs' heart, and also gave rise to the Sha of Pride.

Nu-uh, get your facts straight, lad. Draenei never gave themselves to Sargeras, they're the exiled Eredar, who listened to Velen's warnings and didn't take demonic powers. Their run for life didn't result in corrupting orcs, it was meddling of Kil'Jaeden that did so. And Draenei weren't part of Alliance back then... It was like, thousands of years before first humans were born in Northrend... Highborne were the ONLY high elves that ever wanted power of magic for themselves. Azshara was by then so deeply corrupted by Eredar that she, in fact, didn't actually think for herself, which made her evil nonetheless. That's not enitre race's fault, anyway. Oh, did i mention that they weren't part of Alliance back then, too? Finally, don't overdo the humans. They had nothing to do as a race with coming of orcs to Azeroth. As such, Medivh was helpless as well due to the soul of Sargeras within, when it was implemented inside him while he was still unborn Aegwyn's child, who defended Azeroth from Sargeras' avatar. Pretty unwillingly and unknowingly he did open the Dark Portal. Still, human race had nothing to do with it. Besides, Medivh atoned for this. And he was neutral, as all Guardians of Tirisfal were. It was the Horde who tore the peace apart after thousands years of struggle. Then it was recently Garrosh, who nearly tore the "aight, we wanna get cool" Horde apart. Thrall was going in for peace, as was Varian. Then this big fella came in and screwed up, BIG TIME. Most of the orcs decided to follow him, oh I so wonder why?

Archid11 First of all, anyone that has played WoW and WC1-3, that pays attention to how the lore develops, should know that both player factions, Horde and Alliance are NOT inherently good or evil, or completely to blame for all the struggles that have ensued. So arguing over who is more at fault is pointless. The games and lore just show how things turn out from two different sides, or points of view. So lets address the "point of view" you have with the Draenei first. Because there is more then one possible opinion when it comes to them. 1: I think what John Emond was getting at is Draenei are the same race and species as the ones that did follow Sargeras, on their original home world. Btw, Velen and his followers were by far a MINORITY that fled that whole deal. Eredar = Draenei, so they are still the same when it comes to talking about the species. Its just a point of view thing. At the start anyway, the corrupted did change in appearance when Sargeras transformed them into demons. 2: This is fact however, not just a point of view. The lore states that Sargeras needed henchmen to lay his ground work, because the titans were watching him, knowing Sargeras was walking a thin line, but were not yet aware of how far he had fallen from grace... so to speak. So you cannot deny that, if Kil'Jaedan and Archimonde (whom are Eredar/Draenei ) had not given into greed and lust for power as the majority of their species did, Sargeras' push for gaining entrance into Azeroths realm most likely would not have happened. The first or second time, sense KIl'Jaeden and Archimonde were the ones that spear headed both those events, for the most part. So from that point of view the Draenei /Eredar are on the," oops sorry our people were kind of dicks in the past," list.... just like the Orc's are. So the Alliance general opinion of: "Lets hate the Orc's ,..... but the space goats / Kil'Jaeden's people, we're good with them". ....I mean.....really? Its kind of a double standard.

AKgamerz47 Although you got a point NEARLY right on humans, it's still wrong to call Draenei same to Eredar. Actually, as of now, there is no species called the Eredar. Only Man'ari or the Draenei. Man'ari are those who became corrupted by demonic power of Sargeras. Draenei, on the other hand, were cleased by Naaru's power. They actually differ from the original Eredar race, way more than it is with Blood Elves and High Elves... which are physically different as well, not just by skin tone or eye color. So now why only nearly you were right on my "double standard": It was JUST one henchman. No more, no less. With orcs it was all but one freaking clan, whose leader paid heed to Ner'zhul after he got his eyes opened. Yep, it was Durotan. But the orcs invaded peaceful Draenei anyway, and slaughtered them, then pillaged Temple of Karabor. And they did it out of free will, just like Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde. Like, Draenei did nothing to them, i can't even... I know humans are no good as well and they slaughtered forest trolls happily with small help from High Elves... but Draenei are still the most pure race on a freaking Azeroth. Oh, and mindless slaughter is way worse than fighting a strong warrior, like Alliance did against the Trolls. But this still does make them good guys.

Archid11 . Draenei Race: We can agree to disagree on them, because technically we are both correct from our different points of view. Eredar or Draenei, its all semantics. I know the Eredar are all demons as of now... :P Orc's vs Draenei: You are wrong about the Orc's however, in that you said the Orc's attacked the Draenei and looted their temple out of FREE will. Of that you are mistaken sir. That's a very one sided statement, making the Orcs seem like they are naturally hateful and violent. Which is not true. This is a quote strait out of the Warcraft lore, for the Draenei history, I just copied and pasted it: "After deceiving the orc chieftains into drinking the blood of Mannoroth, Gul'dan worked the orcs into a frenzy of bloodlust, and the newly formed Horde began slaughtering the peaceful Draenei, the demonic blood haze ever more compelling the Orcish horde to wreak havoc, and destroy all they set their gaze upon." The only ones truly to blame for the attack on the Draenei were Gul'dan, Kil'Jaeden, the Pit Lord Mannoroth, and of course Sargeras. The Orcs were fooled and tricked into taking the demon blood, and did not completely understand what it would do to them. After the demons blood corrupted them they were basically just a weapon used by the legion, and Gul'dan. You don't blame the weapon, you blame the one pulling the trigger. The attack on the Draenei was instituted by Gul'dan using the "Blood Haze", which gripped the Orc's and pushed them into a psychotic violent frenzy. The effect demon blood has on Orc's is like a drug. It had them so amped up and bent on destruction, they attacked anything and everything they were pointed at. From that, its understood, they did NOT choose out of free will to attack the Draenei. Does that sound like people that are thinking clearly, or could even stop themselves? Obviously the answer is, no. So obviously the Orc's are nothing like Kil'Jaeden or Archimonde. Saying that is just bashing the faction you don't agree with, because your looking for reasons to validate them as the "bad guys".. ;P "I am not worthy, but I will give my all....For the Horde."

Archid11 Yeah sorry but, I was not only right on the money with the double standard I mention, but you saying it was JUST one henchmen, is ridiculous. The entire species except the ones that went with Velen joined Sargeras, and were transformed into Sargeras' first full scale demonic invasion force. So really??....JUST one henchmen? seriously? That is major understating how horrible they have effected not only Draenor and Azeroth, but many other worlds they have already conquered and enslaved. Especially Kil'Jaeden. Everything they have done makes the Orc attack on the Draenei seem like small potato's....and they even plotted that attack as well. btw I have never said, the Aliance were bad guys. I have always said, both Horde and Aliance are neither good, nor bad. I simply prefer the Horde. I find the Alliance very sniveling, and petty with all of their politics and decision processes. Horde is much more to the point, and strait forward.( not to mention the horde side has cooler quests and plot developments.) Clan politics are more harsh, but they are simple and effective. Just like in the vid, Thrall was just going to smash Garrosh's head...but no, Varian had to have a say in it. Could have ended the issue right there...... I know, we need another expansion.

+Kilian Moraless Alpha vanilla wow let players from both side talk to each other but due to very toxic interactions they removed it so its known that almost every race speaks common by now.

+Kilian Moraless And for more lore issues: Thrall has been captured by humans, so he knows common language. I suppose Vol'Jin does too. Because.... Voodoo. Yeah. Voodoo.

Marek Krayt Lorewise everyone knows common, at least they did during the first 3 wars.

+Kilian Moraless The whole languages thing is only an in-game mechanic. Lorewise, Common is a common language used between all the races, and is not Alliance specific.

+Kilian Moraless Well Varian, being both an ex-orc captive and the fucking king (a pretty big deal), probably does know Orcish. I know that in lore the orcs also know common, but it's something to think about.

He stole Vol'jins moment. I am glad he is dead.

No, no. The Horde is not only nicer, it's better, not as much smarter, but better! :D

Theramore disagrees.

Theramore means nothing to me now

yes, much nicer -.-

Oh you guys have no idea lol. I don't mean that in a rude way either. Read the new War Crimes book. Both factions kind of balance each other out. Jaina in this video is basically the equivalent of Sylvanas. Plus you can't argue that she doesn't deserve to be kind of evil towards the Horde when they destroyed her entire city and many people she loved and cared about. Now of course a lot of the Horde didn't know about the mana bomb, Baine even warned her about the attack because he believed it was just a normal attack. The new War Crimes novel sheds light on all of this, but it is a bit boring. Kinda like Law and Order: Azeroth edition. Like I think Varian has changed a lot, and he doesn't label every member of the Horde anymore, and doesn't let his hate for some of them make his decisions for him. He is actually more of what Jaina used to be. Still I think there is good and bad on both sides.

You cant really blame Jaina for wanting revenge. She asked Thrall for help, he refused. Garosh bombed her city. Then Voljin asked Thrall for help and he didnt take long to agree. I think they are setting Jaina to eventually become the antagonist of a future expansion and they are doing it pretty well

In the new expansion Warlords of Dreanor Thrall will revise his role as a fierce warrior when he goes back to his roots of the old Frostwolf Clan and seeing his Father and cousins in battle, and he will be able to take his revenge on Gul'dan for everything he did, it will be exciting to see his progression of the path of the warrior he once was but still having his new role as the earth-wardem and keeping intact with his shamanistic roots

Then it's fortunate that they plan to put him back in his armor and truly motivate him to take up arms, by showing him his family relations in Warlords of Draenor.

Lore-wise he is Alliance

Alejandro Ortiz If Tirion joins the Alliance then its overkill.