Mix Buss Compression (The Right Way) - RecordingRevolution.com

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If you've ever heard of engineers using mix buss compression to "glue" their tracks together but have no idea what that means or how to do it - this video is for you.
But many people mis-use mix buss compression and it actually makes their mix WORSE with it on, not better.
Today I'll break down my exact settings for using mix buss compression the right way so you get a punchier, more exciting, but still natural sounding mix!
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@recordingrevolution
@recordingrevolution 4 жыл бұрын
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@d.miranda456
@d.miranda456 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone mixing at home needs to watch this, several times... it's all about subtlety, retaining dynamics, natural sound... slow attack, minimal threshold... excellent job, we need more videos like this out there.
@theincredibleaimez310
@theincredibleaimez310 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. This helped me a lot.
@bg4productionsllc
@bg4productionsllc Жыл бұрын
👏👏
@DudeMannn
@DudeMannn 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this is the first video of yours I've seen and you are easily one of the best KZfaq instructors on plugins because you don't rush your words. You explain everything concisely without making dumb jokes. You zoom in on the plugin so we can see what you are doing. The zoom in is very clear. At the same time you don't linger on the same point forever making your video a perfect speed to learn with. I'm checking out your videos for the next few hours and keep putting up more good context. Dude from New York City.
3 жыл бұрын
This is Graham
@thirdwise
@thirdwise 3 жыл бұрын
Graham's the man fam
@GrandNebSmada
@GrandNebSmada 3 жыл бұрын
those unprocessed tracks sound better than my completed mixes
@lightafluident.9950
@lightafluident.9950 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jamesocean1st
@jamesocean1st 3 жыл бұрын
🤣👍🏻
@SamHaiman
@SamHaiman 3 жыл бұрын
We worked hard on Em!
@noahunterberger6230
@noahunterberger6230 3 жыл бұрын
That's the key, the best mixes are made with amazing recordings.
@XoJupit3r
@XoJupit3r 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂bro who you telling
@danielmaher4792
@danielmaher4792 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the simplest, clearest explanations of compression I’ve seen! Thanks man!
@ghdrum
@ghdrum 5 жыл бұрын
Drummer of 20 years & 10 years of Jazz piano but new to production and new to your channel. Finding some really great tips. Thank you!
@akashchakrabarty5708
@akashchakrabarty5708 3 жыл бұрын
Man! this is the best and I mean THE BEST explanation of how to use the SSL comp on KZfaq. Period Big ups to you man!
@DesSherwoodGuitarTuition
@DesSherwoodGuitarTuition 5 жыл бұрын
Half way in and I've already learned some useful tips for this on my mix and it's sounding much better than when I was messing about blind not knowing anything about it! many thanks!
@elonthebass6870
@elonthebass6870 5 жыл бұрын
I own and use the SSL bus compressor quite regularly, Slower attacks & fast release is just one approach. True, It preserves the internal dynamics of the track. But the SSL also can grab transients with faster attacks too for that "glued" pop sound. I use .3 attack all the time and adjust the threshold so it only kisses the transients. Auto release is quite incredible too. As far as mixing into the SSL, yes slow attack fast release. But I seldom do that anymore because the SSL narrows the image so much sometimes that its difficult to differentiate a tonal imbalance in an instrument or an loudness imbalance. Things get squashed together nicely but normally small corrective moves have to be multiplied and exaggerated to hear them. It can get hairy. Bypassing it after mixing into it for a day can be downright scary.
@TrueGritProductions
@TrueGritProductions 4 жыл бұрын
So far, you talked about things that are hairy, kissing, and screwing up a mix- who's the scary one, the SSL compressor or you?
@rillloudmother
@rillloudmother 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrueGritProductions lol, amateur trolling.
@toreywilliams6760
@toreywilliams6760 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the SSL compressor
@elonthebass6870
@elonthebass6870 4 жыл бұрын
@@toreywilliams6760 Sweetwater. It's about 1k cheaper than when I bought it.
@rillloudmother
@rillloudmother 4 жыл бұрын
@@elonthebass6870 lol, I think you misunderstood my comment in saying that the person was trolling like an amateur. There haven't been any actual yuppies since the 80s, so you might wanna update your insults...
@indyartmusic1142
@indyartmusic1142 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Graham, i have just tried this on my latest piece that , to be fair, was near completion, but i stripped it back and removed all the effect plugins, in other words, started from scratch using MIX BUSS COMPRESSION and OMG!!!! the result is fantastic, it might be subtle as you call it but it is anything but!!!!! My track has more width, more punch, more air and sounds great. I have added some EQ and Compression in parts to a few of the tracks (NOT ALL!) and the final result is i have managed to remix my track from scratch to completion and mastered in the space of about an hour!!! Personally, i think it is the best mix etc that i have done so far!!!!!! It also has help me sort some "go to" plugins now that i will use from now on!!!!!!!! Graham, THANK YOU!
@HiggsMusicOfficial
@HiggsMusicOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Another mixing save from Graham! I've been following your stuff for years and have learnt a ton, sir. Thank you!
@jeffbridges6110
@jeffbridges6110 5 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. I've always been solid at mixing. And for the most part , I do all the same things you do. But your Master Buss EQ , & Compression tricks were really useful. I thank you for that. Subtle , and makes a big difference.
@kevinsturges6957
@kevinsturges6957 7 күн бұрын
Even when you set it “wrong” it still sounded amazing and had that classic album flavor. I love this compressor on the mix buss.
@ngavengmirimai310
@ngavengmirimai310 5 жыл бұрын
The very first Best mixing lesson of 2019!! Thanks, Graham
@js100serch
@js100serch 11 ай бұрын
I think this is a massive magical change, I've never used a mix buss compressor and today I followed this tutorial for one of my old recordings. Dude the difference is huge!. Up to this point, every time I listened back to my recordings I always felt the need to crank up the volume, it was specially painful when you do the "conversational volume" test. With this little trick here, I can hear all the details of my mix at a low volume. Well, maybe he is right, because I'm also applying other good practices in mixing and recording so they added up, this was maybe that little extra detail my mixes needed. I have so much to learn.
@faceless6464
@faceless6464 8 ай бұрын
Nice, yeah it sounds like it’s maybe mostly just that you’ve done a good job and having a break from it has helped you appreciate it
@philcodeca
@philcodeca 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this has helped me calm my peaks so much. Thanks for the great content!
@lesleymoddleton2287
@lesleymoddleton2287 5 жыл бұрын
Also one of my favourites, use it all the time..my defo go to bit of kit. Makes absolute sense to bring it in a the start of the mix. Hate to say it but never thought of that. I tend to use it at the end of the mix with similar settings, subtle like. Yep one of Graham's previous vids. Keep 'em coming Graham. Keep 'em coming..
@patrickfarley8036
@patrickfarley8036 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best instruction I've found on this topic! Brilliant! I've now watched several of your videos and I'm very impressed. Thank you, from your new subscriber!
@DS-ru8gd
@DS-ru8gd 5 жыл бұрын
90% of all i know about audio engineering is from you. Thanks for another year, bless :)
@AmagrasMUSIC
@AmagrasMUSIC 5 жыл бұрын
All solid advice here (as usual)!! I'm linking this video as a detailed complement to my super summarized video version on this topic, many people will appreciate it! Thx
@MichaelsPaintingChannel
@MichaelsPaintingChannel Жыл бұрын
Such a complete and perfect video. Answers also different other questions I had. Thank you!
@marciomesquita
@marciomesquita 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Excellent! Thanks for such a clear explanation, going straight to the point with examples on which we can really hear the differences and with a process that makes sense and we can use. Thanks! Now I finally understand what people mean by glue compression.
@woodzzy1
@woodzzy1 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanations again, thanks Graham for explaining everything so nice!
@paulpavely5904
@paulpavely5904 5 жыл бұрын
I love this plugin, probably one of my best buys! Great video as always Graham.
@sanderr.9293
@sanderr.9293 3 жыл бұрын
''buy''
@3rdStringMusic
@3rdStringMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Very useful and now I will use this technique in my mix. Thanks 👍🏻
@riverdreams9510
@riverdreams9510 5 жыл бұрын
Nice results, very subtle but you definitely feel and get with jive of the instruments. Thanks for the tutorial.
@BobbyWashingtonvlog
@BobbyWashingtonvlog 5 жыл бұрын
great video bro... I've learned so much these past 2 years with you. much more than I learned at full sail. lol
@leonid998
@leonid998 Жыл бұрын
Hi. As to my knowledge, mixing is the process of establishing musical balance, spectral blance, space. If you mix into master bus compressor you get the unbalanced mix which the compessor "hides" behind it (they call it "glueing"), additionally introducing uncontrolled (triggered by whatever track got louder now) distortions on the sum of tracks, which may not be that obvious with such a subtle compressor as he SSL MBC one, still. Master bus compressor was introduced on mixing consoles to check how it shall sound after being squashed with post-processing on e.g. radio, or to do mastering AFTER the mixing stage is complete. It is not meant for mixing itself.
@GodPorter144
@GodPorter144 8 ай бұрын
So what would be better to use on your mixbud
@LoffysDomain
@LoffysDomain 4 жыл бұрын
Two thing I really appreciate are the video editing and the comparative teaching (good and bad practices).
@WillieMCruz
@WillieMCruz 5 жыл бұрын
Good morning dear friend !! Thank you very much I been learning a lote from your channel
@jacquelamontharenberg
@jacquelamontharenberg 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man... Learning all the time... Much appreciated.... Thank you
@lix7698
@lix7698 5 жыл бұрын
My goal for this year is to challenge myself to make 4 eps. 6 tracks at most and 4 tracks at minimum. I am going to release 1 EP every 3 months. I'm not the best yet at singing/engineering which is one reason I am doing this challenge. Thanks all!
@Thebeats9er
@Thebeats9er 5 жыл бұрын
You got this!
@DeceptiveSS
@DeceptiveSS 5 жыл бұрын
I subbed to your channel to support your cause. Good luck!
@lix7698
@lix7698 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeceptiveSS thank you so much! I'll sub to you too
@doyi984
@doyi984 5 жыл бұрын
Alright then! I'm waiting!!
@lix7698
@lix7698 5 жыл бұрын
@@doyi984 thank you so much! can't wait to get there
@FB-gg9zo
@FB-gg9zo Жыл бұрын
A splendid video, you're a great teacher. Thank you.
@kesslerdupont7777
@kesslerdupont7777 5 жыл бұрын
I am at the point where I was starting to question the effectiveness of adding compression at the end. This video helped me verify my suspicions.
@PhillyWatts
@PhillyWatts 5 жыл бұрын
Waves G Master for the win! It's on every single one of my master buses. Great video, reaffirmed my workflow, thank you!
@granthoover9045
@granthoover9045 5 жыл бұрын
Do you put it on busses earlier in the chain? Like drum bus or vocal bus?
@wwbelcher
@wwbelcher Жыл бұрын
"No mixing trick should give you massive magical change" - So so true, thanks for the great video!
@Rakoah
@Rakoah 4 жыл бұрын
wow I've been using mix bus compression for a few years now but I've never thought to put it on early in the mix like you have instructed. I was always taught to avoid putting any processing on your mix bus untill the very end stage of your mix, but what you said makes sense. I might have to try this out.
@sheLovesG
@sheLovesG 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never done this as I’ve also heard it’s not desirable but it may be it’s kinda genre dependent. The material he’s starting with falls into a very, real live band recording together, very 70’s style. It works with these genres well because 1 this technique was used on nearly all the hits you remember from that era and 2 because nearly all of the producers of that material used this technique or some similar variation. It’s questionable how effective this technique is with more modern or styles of music and recording techniques. I’m still going to try it though. Maybe it’s that it just works great for certain material but not all.
@lightafluident.9950
@lightafluident.9950 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't agree with him on that at all.
@toreywilliams6760
@toreywilliams6760 4 жыл бұрын
I've been searching for a video like this for weeks . Great way of breaking it down simply and easily thanks man
@Pearlpassionstudio
@Pearlpassionstudio 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent well explained tutorial Graham...Cheers
@Aonoexorcist100
@Aonoexorcist100 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, This really helped out alot! Thank you beautiful man!
@inspir.edmusic
@inspir.edmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I love this plugin. Thanks for the tut.
@ShutTheMuckUp
@ShutTheMuckUp 4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. Thank you.
@itsamandarenee
@itsamandarenee 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video, thank you!!
@jacquelamontharenberg
@jacquelamontharenberg 5 жыл бұрын
Great info Mr. G... Much appreciated
@MrDexterSr
@MrDexterSr 5 жыл бұрын
Love the song, makes me wanna drive down the highway somewhere
@dnashofficial
@dnashofficial 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's gonna be stuck in my head all bloody night, lol.
@jimiboi87
@jimiboi87 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this reminds me of a Bob Seger/Kings of Leon vibe. Nostalgic vibe well done 👍🏽
@SamHaiman
@SamHaiman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love on the track everyone 🤟
@adampeters9684
@adampeters9684 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can find this song??
@HazyJ28
@HazyJ28 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Thank you for the insight!
@marcusdwaynegonzalez5557
@marcusdwaynegonzalez5557 Жыл бұрын
You could also create a group the tracks and see if you need to add or subtract volume at the track level. The point is you can create several alt and sub mixes so that you can toggle between two instances of the mix.
@ChuckDeeBeats
@ChuckDeeBeats 5 жыл бұрын
Hiphop producer here.. Thank you Graham for another great compression vid, helps a lot.
@erfanmeskini7744
@erfanmeskini7744 3 ай бұрын
this is crazy good and informative.
@DidoInFlames
@DidoInFlames 2 жыл бұрын
This video is the best on SSL compressor for glueing tracks nicely. It sounds great when you make small adjustments and not killing the transients.
@jonnymak1079
@jonnymak1079 Жыл бұрын
Very good video I also believe with many "tools" for mixing even mastering to acually use certain things while doing it
@JacobHagloch
@JacobHagloch 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I learned a lot more about compression and how I was doing it wrong.
@sevenlevels234
@sevenlevels234 5 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Graham!
@R.Kryshtal
@R.Kryshtal 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and pdf, very helpful 👍👍👍
@nicknolin
@nicknolin 5 жыл бұрын
Ok so will u do a video on the mix buss plugin chain so like how u stack and where u place comp eq, tape, ect ? In what order
@notdatnice9846
@notdatnice9846 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, nice Top Down mixing strategy!
@makeboyonthebeat
@makeboyonthebeat Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@sumarient
@sumarient 3 жыл бұрын
so relaxing to the ears
@devmobray
@devmobray 4 жыл бұрын
real awesome explanation , thanks man
@TrueGritProductions
@TrueGritProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool, great tips
@ThePanchomack
@ThePanchomack 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, very helpful! And man I love this song ...
@SamHaiman
@SamHaiman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It’s under Redwood Honey “six strings and me” on Spotify
@ThePanchomack
@ThePanchomack 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamHaiman Cheers mate! I know, it was running in my playlist all the time by the end of last year! Really love the vibe of the record ! Great piece of music
@SamHaiman
@SamHaiman 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePanchomack hell yeah man!
@adriatic123
@adriatic123 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful lecture, thanks
@StevieBoyesmusic
@StevieBoyesmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to put mix bus compression and eq on just after doing a basic mono fader up mix, with perhaps some automation and subtractive eq. Then go and eq and compress/saturate and add extra automation to individual channels afterwards. I'm liking the results.
@granthoover9045
@granthoover9045 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’ll have to try this. Can I ask why you said “compress/saturate” together like that? Is there a reason to put them in that order?
@dudeamazing3176
@dudeamazing3176 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed an amazing tip,thanks a lot
@maxmolodtsov
@maxmolodtsov 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanx!
@dougadkins4738
@dougadkins4738 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! notice also a very nice improvement in the vocal sitting better.. Thank u
@viktorjohansson4424
@viktorjohansson4424 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this helped a lot!
@zeno.y
@zeno.y 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you very much! Would you recommend a compressor with colour like Successor to be on 2 bus or always recommend to use cleaner comp like SSL type VCA comp for 2 bus duty? Thanks.
@benitoherrero3895
@benitoherrero3895 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, very clear
@akhilchandrashekar1725
@akhilchandrashekar1725 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so so much for this video
@willievaughn6474
@willievaughn6474 9 ай бұрын
That's Beautiful 💯 thank you
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you.
@rickhorvath
@rickhorvath 3 ай бұрын
A Grammy award winning engineer states you should turn this on inly AFTER you’ve created your mix. I’d trust him.
@ckowalski1029
@ckowalski1029 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Should we start doing this before any stereo widening or editing?
@NoriBeatz
@NoriBeatz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me my man, thank you!
@sloanzak
@sloanzak 5 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks!!
@rockwriter9054
@rockwriter9054 4 жыл бұрын
Upon your recommendation I bought the Greg wells mix concentric, how will this work with this SSLMIX BUS Consol or are they to be used one or the other ? used
@kylegrossi8175
@kylegrossi8175 5 жыл бұрын
any chance your going to show this soon fully mixed? i interested to hear what you do with the drums and this guys voice?
@paulchikezieomari
@paulchikezieomari 3 жыл бұрын
wonderful tutorial thanks
@tigerboy4516
@tigerboy4516 5 жыл бұрын
wonderful demonstration
@teeaymusik9811
@teeaymusik9811 3 жыл бұрын
WOW now THIS was helpful!
@AndrewStonerock
@AndrewStonerock 5 жыл бұрын
Graham, I would love for you to check out the Joey Sturgis bus glue stuff. They are incredible..
@srinip
@srinip 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, and apologies if this question has already been asked. Does it matter where in the mix bus the compressor is placed (ie, the first slot or the last slot)? Thanks in advance!
@HollerAtcherBoi
@HollerAtcherBoi 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Some people (like the Sage Audio channel) advise to rarely, if ever, have mixbus or master compressor/limiters with release less than 50ms. Reason is that, if there’s sub-information down to roughly 20hz, the quick release will create distortion. I’ve always used the fastest release and slowest attack, but I’m starting to reconsider. Would love your take on this.
@MrArtVein
@MrArtVein 2 жыл бұрын
How does it sound to you. If you're making heavy rock or trap with lots of energy maybe the distortion gives you a feel
@jefjahn247
@jefjahn247 5 жыл бұрын
By subtle, you mean AWESOME, don't you, Graham? C'mon ... you know what I'm talkin' about. Right? So, I grabbed my headphones, and I gotta tell ya, it really rounded out the mix. It's fuller, much more airier, and tonally wider. For this song, in particular, you should want to invoke the emotion of wide open spaces. Now ... I do have a question: could a saturation plugin achieve something similar to this? I've been experimenting with saturation on my drum buss, and it does improve the overall performance. But, I've not yet tried it in a mix-down situation. Thanks again for sharing your thoughtful insight.
@3rdStringMusic
@3rdStringMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Great and helpful
@carators3611
@carators3611 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Cochrane, thanks so much for this helpful video! I have a case where I'm using this particular compressor in mastering. Now, the gain reduction only happens on the loudest parts of the song. So for make-up gain, should I match at the loudest part of the song, or elsewhere in the mix, to make sure the rest of it isn't too much louder?
@WBCStudio.
@WBCStudio. 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial. Since this SSLcompressor comes also in mono, can I put it in the individual tracks?
@Alberto_McClane
@Alberto_McClane 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this tutorial. I have a question. How could I have so much more glue than this?
@DenGamleLaererbolig
@DenGamleLaererbolig 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! You seem to have a lot more buttons (for example the key input button for sidechain compression) in the g-master buss compressor window than I have. How do I enable that so I can do sidechain compression!? And thanks for a great channel!
@zachallen9890
@zachallen9890 5 жыл бұрын
What if I’ve already got a bunch of plugins on my mix already? Should I turn everything off and do this, or just add it at the end?
@perryrice6573
@perryrice6573 2 жыл бұрын
Nice song!
@iamcyberface
@iamcyberface Жыл бұрын
Where does it go on the master chain? Like before all other master plugins or after
@jeanchile9117
@jeanchile9117 5 жыл бұрын
Graham, I enjoy your channel a great deal and I think you have a lot of interesting ideas/concepts. My only critique is that quite a few of your videos could be a considerably shorter. I don’t seem to make it all the way through most of your videos. I’ve figured out why and thought I would share: the videos are too long (e.g. the title says something like “My 3 Best Reverb Tricks” and yet the video is 12 minutes long 😬). Anyway, there’s plenty of viewers who would disagree with that (and I’m not saying they’re wrong) but, for someone like me who is usually looking for a specific answer to a question it can be frustrating skipping around looking for it, that’s all. Love your channel and all the work you share with the world. Thank you!
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe watch them at 1.5x like I do.
@oddpanda_beats
@oddpanda_beats 3 жыл бұрын
never thought of applying it before, great tip man! :) but what if you do make changes on the volume while mixing through eq, effects and after mix volume adjustments? doesn't it affect the compression and falsify the prior approach?
@ElCapitanGames
@ElCapitanGames 2 жыл бұрын
Always gain match. If you’re making something louder you will like it more. ALWAYS. So don’t do that. Take the quietest thing in the mix and then balance everything to that. When you apply effects. Turn down the gain to make it match.
@jameswallace5967
@jameswallace5967 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Graham!
@gustavokoshikumo
@gustavokoshikumo 10 ай бұрын
I find it´s funny how the mix bus glue compression technique is so variable. I´ve seen people saying the "right way" is actually using the minimum attack and the longest release. For me it makes sense to have a slow attack and a fast release to preserve the transients, but I´m starting to feel like the opposite is also valid because it glues it even more. And of course, it always depends on the characteristics of the track.
@jdvine
@jdvine 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful lesson bro,i cant hear that good anymore,
@inspir.edmusic
@inspir.edmusic 3 жыл бұрын
What does the analog button do, besides add noise?
@cobraofearth
@cobraofearth Жыл бұрын
I always just feel like compression is some wu wu magic. This explains it pretty well, but honestly I can't even hear the difference, so I don't think the average listener would either. And you can tell the singer is nervous, because he is not really singing out, it's very restrained. That would be much more important to get right if you ask me
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