Don't Buy The Crystal Light - Get The BIGSCREEN BEYOND Instead!

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The Pimax Crystal Light is an exciting upgrade for your Reverb G2, Valve Index and many other aging headsets. Starting from $699 it is a fantastic offer! BUT the Bigscreen Beyond might be the better alternative for you if certain conditions apply! Let me tell you about those conditions and for who of you the Bigscreen Beyond will be the better choice!
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@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Get the Beyond here: bit.ly/3YtEm9x (Affiliate) Order Pimax Crystal Now: pimax.com/pages/crystal-light?ref=mrtv (Affiliate) Which one are you gonna get? Beyond or Crystal Light?

@ThomasR-pq7zq Ай бұрын

Servus Sebastian. Also.... I just got the Beyond a few days ago and I have to say I am a bit disappointed.... Hence, the glare is something I absolutely cannot deal with. I tried HL Alyx (which was the best by the way) and indeed MSFS2020 and DCS. Before the Beyond I had the Reverb G2, which has a nice solution but not the best lenses as well as small sweet spot. BUT, I was shocked about the glare which was even a bit more than I was used to in the G2. It surprised me, since the overall Beyond is an awesome VR headset.... anyway, I am sending the Beyond back and have already preordered the Crystal Ligh including the lighthouse front. ;) Cheerz, Tom

@lukaszb3651 Ай бұрын

Crystal Light

@tdhitchins 20 күн бұрын

It’s a no brainier! If you have £1500+ in your back pocket (headset/lighthouses/controllers) you’d buy the big screen beyond. That is the ultimate form factor atm for vr. It would increase immersion but for £6-800, it’s the light hands down!!

@ThomasR-pq7zq 20 күн бұрын

...as mentioned abover, the glare was the reason I've sent the Beyond back. For that price the picture quality gets just soo much disturbed in almost all szenarios, at least in my personal feeling and opinion.

@autbo Ай бұрын

My dream headset would be one that has the form factor of the bigscreen beyond, micro OLED, 200+ nit brightness, 120+ FOV horizontal and vertical, 120 hz, 4k per eye, preliminary HDR support, and eye tracking.

@chadef555 Ай бұрын

There is a prototype of 140/160/180 horizontal fov headset with hig res, hz, brightness and clear lenses. The form factor won't be as small but still should be smaller than most headsets on the market (excluding beyond of course). In a few years it seems there is a chance to see these lenses and displays applied.

@autbo Ай бұрын

@@chadef555 iirc I remember reading an article about a pancake lens breakthrough a couple days ago. They managed to increase the efficiency of the lenses by 4 times, increasing the brightness by a factor of 4. Can't wait to see it implemented in real headsets.

@ComdrStew Ай бұрын

Most of us told these companies what we want, but they always leave out one or two of the items.

@PixelShade Ай бұрын

Don't forget; an index-like audio solution. That's my biggest gripe with the beyond and how it is an accessory rather than being included in the price.

@SimVRRacing Ай бұрын

@@ComdrStew Literally a pico 4 with displayport would do a lot of people. Low cost, good comfort, easy to run on gpu. No idea why nobody is making one.

@x32i77 Ай бұрын

Beware of the glare on this headset, it's worse than on Quest 2 from what I've heard

@jakkudemoff3043 Ай бұрын

I would absolutely buy the beyond if it came with controllers and didn't need base stations because along with form factor, little to no setup is also the future

@OdyBeRidin Ай бұрын

Im glad Bigscreen got the face cushion issue ironed out. I have the Beyond and had to get mine reprinted 3 times, once because the IPD was off, the other 2 times were to get my eyes as close to the lenses without my eyelashes touching the lenses. If you dont have it spot on, your visual experience will suffer greatly.

@fullstomache Ай бұрын

The Beyond, with the default soft back strap + headstrap and AMVR head cup, is comfortable enough to both recline and sleep in and doesn't cause neck pain while doing so. You can spend hours in VRC wearing it. LH means FBT ready as well.

@ThePape78 Ай бұрын

I have the beyond since a week. Only for Simracing and it’s the best headset I ever used. And thanks to OLED. No one talks about it, but the latency is incredible.

@sparkerinvr526 Ай бұрын

I have had the audio strap for about two weeks and find it much more comfortable than the soft strap. Having a integrated audio solution make the headset so much easier to put on and off. I was using the Koss Porta Pros with the Apple USB C adapter before and find the sound very similar. Thanks for the video and coming from a Vive Pro 2 the Beyond is everything I was looking for playing X-Plane 12.

@SpringChickensOnlyMan Ай бұрын

Actually I’m purchasing both vr headsets. I already have BigScreen beyond and next I’m going to buy pimax crystal light when that’s out instead of preordering it

@steveramundo4946 Ай бұрын

Hello MRTV - Love your reviews - another good one as always !! Would you be able to please make a video explaining the differences, pro VS con regarding the original PImax Crystal compared with the Pimax Crystal Light?? I love my Bigscreen - but was just curious what the light offered Vs the original

@angrybeaver6667 Ай бұрын

They said in May you would be able to order and get it within 2 weeks. But on the website it says 1-8 weeks, 8 weeks is still a long ass time to wait after you already paid. Also the Audio strap doesnt say when it ships.

@dmorg091 Ай бұрын

The fixed IPD kills the BB for me as my wife will sometimes use my VR headset, so it"s a "no go' for me.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

That makes so much sense! Crystal Light it is?

@MrMarcusjarvey Ай бұрын

Happy G2 user here - currently torn between the two. I've put a deposit on the light, but really WANT a BSB. The personal short comings of the BSB (FoV, refresh rate, price) are addressed by the light - but not the lovely formfactor of the BSB. But he longer it goes on, the more hopeful of some news on the Index 2

@kittyjarule1991 Ай бұрын

I just brought a quest 3 and the halo bobovr m3 pro and was wondering if you knew a good case that I could buy to keep the quest safe when I am not using it.

@Vazz Ай бұрын

SweViver is going to hate the title of this video. 😛 I really want the Bigscreen Beyond. As a cv1 user, It is the headset I will upgrade to whenever I can afford it as I don't care about any lcd(or Qled or w/e) headsets. None of them compare to oled for me. I always hear about how the Beyond is dark because of the pancake lenses and not enough nits or something. I'd be curious to see how it compares to the brightness of an older headset like the CV1 Rift since I remember back in the day, everyone said the Rift was darker than the original Vive. But is the Beyond even darker than a cv1 Rift, is it equal, brighter? Do you still have your old headsets? It'd be interesting to compare things like that.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

The old headsets are brighter than this. :) But it's still fine. Pico 4ish.

@ToomaMac Ай бұрын

I'm glad you mentioned "need base stations" early in your video; not something I need for sim racing. Cheers, I appreciate that.

@MegaIronica Ай бұрын

Hey Seb! Now that Meta announced that they will soon let other manufacturers use their OS, do you think that Pimax could change their OS to Meta's OS on their standalone models? If it is possible, do you think they would accept it? If they say no and stay with their own OS, do you think it would be a mistake? Personally, if I could use a Pimax Crystal with Meta's OS and all its advantages of tracking, huge store, and excellent UI, I would not hesitate for a second to jump on it. Add to that the Display Port access for PCVR, and it might be the best headset ever. What are your thoughts?

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with you. But I doubt Meta would choose Pimax as one of their OEMS to work with. Sorry Pimax... ;)

@MegaIronica Ай бұрын

@mixedrealityTV really! I thought may be Pimax wouldn't accept. Why do you think it Meta who would refuse. All those Pimax Crystal clients would buy a lot of games on the Meta app store.

@Kryojenix 27 күн бұрын

@@MegaIronica that doesn't add up to so many folks ... but I thought the whole point of Meta Horizons was to open the OS to anyone who wants to implement it. No? I think Pimax was previously hoping to succeed with their own store Pimax Play, then they gave up to stick to wired PCVR headsets - likely because their store couldn't compete with Meta Horizon.

@jamesleicher Ай бұрын

I like the beyond size but wont work in semi enclosed flight sim cockpit , I be out of reach of base stations to work well

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Ah that makes sense.

@bigbadboogie6842 Ай бұрын

Pro tip. Now that you got the advantage of black levels of OLED, continue reading up on colour fidelity. SMPTE or Adobe RGB or other standards. Thats where VR needs to go just like TVs and Projectors did some 20 years ago.

@DrMiddleAged Ай бұрын

The title feels a bit of a clickbait stating one thing while the video itself gives you the impression that the Crystal light is a better option. Especially when compared to your previous videos which always recommend the Crystal

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

I still recommend the Crystal. But for some people the Beyond might be better as stated in the video.

@HeadsetHistorian Ай бұрын

The beyond costs over 2x when you consider the base stations and controllers, it's really tough to compare them tbh but I do agree if you're a PC gamer and budget isn't a concern then the BSB definitely has a lot going for it and in many ways is better than the Crystal light.

@NORTHMARIONINK Ай бұрын

Can you do a through the lens video of the bigscreen beyond to try and capture the glare? Also the comparison between local dimming and OLED, like you did with your last video. I feel like this would be SUPER helpful to me and a lot of people

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

It's hard to do through the lense of the BSB because the lenses are so tiny. The results look so bad that it simply does not represent what you see in the device...

@NORTHMARIONINK Ай бұрын

Dang, no wonder that comparison is missing from all of youtube. That is the final piece of the puzzle @mixedrealityTV

@ji3200 Ай бұрын

FOV,sharp resolution and comfort are perfectl! but only glare and sweet spot bothers me. Hope they fix it on next version of Beyond.

@zubunapydaddelt6407 Ай бұрын

Nope! I disagree! The Crystal light has a better price, sharper visuals and doesn´t need Lighthouse!

@heyjeySigma Ай бұрын

but its very big and bulky and uncomfortable. Sometimes comfort beats better visuals and accessories especially if you're gonna play long sessions

@zubunapydaddelt6407 Ай бұрын

@@heyjeySigma Not, if you have to afford lighthouse base stations and controllers as well. 1500$ vs 699$? And uncompfortable? Nope, i don´t think so. I´ve got the original (heavier) Crystal and love it!

@fullstomache Ай бұрын

If you are seriously recommending Pimax's camera based controllers over Lighthouse gear, you'd have to exclusively be a simmer. Great, you saved money by buying sub par controllers that are inferior to even half broken original Vive 1.0 wands you can now buy for like $150 for a pair on the used market. Awesome.

@daftysnake7019 Ай бұрын

@@fullstomacheno one said that inside out tracking is better,it's that not everyone wants or even needs lighthouse tracking

@OdyBeRidin Ай бұрын

Do you own the Beyond, did you think the Crystal was sharper?

@Kryojenix 27 күн бұрын

I'm trying to choose between Crystal with Wireless vs. Crystal Super QLED in 6months, because really I just want the 12K but I had hoped it would have cut-resolution wireless mode as well...

@mixedrealityTV 27 күн бұрын

The Super so not be here in 6 months. More a year..

@justmekph145 Ай бұрын

I have owned Pimax 5k and 8kx and know how uncomfortable they could get . I just ordered the big screen headset to bad I have to wait till june to get mine but im excited 😀

@ji3200 Ай бұрын

Older pimax product has poorly made lense and it kinda feel like looking through someone's prescription lense. Pimax Crystal lense don't have that problem

@technikchegger7228 Ай бұрын

When Bigscreen is releasing an audio headstrap bundle lets go guys.

@Fry09294 Ай бұрын

The Beyond has so much more glare than I expected. It's also very dark and has very bad E2EC. I can't recommend it.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

It's not "very” dark. But yes as mentioned there for sure are brighter headsets.

@ji3200 Ай бұрын

I actually like less bright. I was never fan of hp Reverb g2 being so bright which make my eye dry and probably worsen my eyesight

@Fry09294 Ай бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV It is substantially darker than every headset I have ever owned, even my blue Acer WMR from 2017.

@FieryMeltman Ай бұрын

Did you contact their support? That can be caused by flaws in the custom facial interface, or by setting the wrong ipd.

@smsheard Ай бұрын

It cost more and it only fits one person, I like to share. I bet it is better for sure though. thank you for yout thoughts.

@gcampagn 2 күн бұрын

TOO LATE! I'VE ALREADY GOT THE PIMAX LIGHT AND I LIKE IT! It was within my price range AND I sure didn't have to measure my face to make it work(only you can use it!), expecially when I don't have an up-to date smartphone to measure it with! And the crystal light has all the features that I need!

@scanx6163 Ай бұрын

Are you mocking us? This is a recommendation for rich people only. The beyond price is x2 and the tracking use light house base station and the fov is smaller... And prescription glasses users can't use it or they need specific lenses and so they can't resell the headset later. Yes the beyond is more light and confortable but you can't recommend it. It's not serious.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@metalceesie219 Ай бұрын

The glare ,the small sweetspot,low brightness(if you turn it up you get somekind off ghosting) so be aware before buying!

@flyhalf2 Ай бұрын

Pico 4 with DP or Pico format with better screens (QLED or OLED)

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Oh yes!

@oliverf944 Ай бұрын

Im patiently waiting for oled psvr2 to become pc compatible.

@jmlibre4468 Ай бұрын

The Crystal Light will be bulky but supposedly lighter that a Quest 2 or 3 with battery straps... will it be suitable for room scale vr? comfortable enough? what do you think guys?

@rtxbacon4998 Ай бұрын

Why I still need to buy the base stations and controllers

@vangoghoff5521 Ай бұрын

Yes

@SjaakSchulteis Ай бұрын

Neither.... but a headset that does the same like the Quest3 but with the form of Bigscreen Beyond might be something to consider... with an average 37-40 degree Celsius where I live, even the strongest fan doesn't cool off enough... my head is melting in the headset...

@Glerox Ай бұрын

I would buy if it had inside-out tracking

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Makes sense !

@lvx4408 Ай бұрын

Confusing. Your recent videos went on and on about how the Crystal will be the best headset for the price...and the Bigscreen Beyond is more expensive than the Crystal Light. Hhhhmmmm

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

You must watch the video and not just read the title. It's like with books.

@lvx4408 Ай бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV will do

@Rikus1978 Ай бұрын

Theres only one issue: The price

@80ssnorklover7 Ай бұрын

The big screen VR though is straight up super duper anymore expensive though so how can we possibly afford that?

@investinjahcoin5029 Ай бұрын

By having a job. But fr, $999 for a headset isn’t very crazy. Quest pro was more expensive when it came out. Pc gaming and especially simulator vr gaming is a very expensive hobby.

@chainsov Ай бұрын

I love the form factor of the beyond, but the custom print design kind of makes it useless for having friends over.

@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495 Ай бұрын

So, as I suspected, the Big Screen Beyond is not for me. It's just too much of a compromise.

@scelestus999 Ай бұрын

I like you too ❤

@droxoel Ай бұрын

Wow, this was unexpected, thanks.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Welcome

@EndersVRcade Ай бұрын

I think it was more of a toss up before the Crystal Light was announced, but it sounds like the Crystal has superior visuals. If the weight and form factor of the Crystal is too much, it’s nice that the Beyond is still an option though.

@SargonDragon Ай бұрын

The Crystal does have superior visuals. But not by a lot. Everything else about it is not as good as the Beyond. So that's the trade off to consider.

@cingkole7893 Ай бұрын

Lets GOOOO BSG FTW!

@insertnamehere4419 Ай бұрын

I believe in Crystal Light coz I believe in me.

@daftysnake7019 Ай бұрын

I mean,it always depends.Forbme personally Crystal light is quite literally perfect and organic upgrade from quest 2.I don't have ability to set up lighthouse,I want to share my headset,and (probably most important) I am not ready to spend over 1k on the headset alone,which I probably won't even be able to sell

@SargonDragon Ай бұрын

Those are good reasons to prefer the Crystal Light.

@stephenmckinnell7791 Ай бұрын

I tried a Beyond, as well as a Crystal, and sent both back. I suspect the Crystal had defective lenses, but having had bad experiences with Pimax previously, I just sent it back. The Beyond was a big disappointment, some of the ‘picture’ may be sharp, but how much of it? The glare was like a smudge of Vaseline around the edge, but not the very edge, it went a long way towards the centre, leaving only perhaps half of the picture clear! It was dark too, and there were other problems. Bigscreen were good as gold, but I couldn’t be bothered trying to ‘fix’ the headset as they are based in California, I’m in the UK. They might have been able to improve things somewhat, but to me the flaws were too bad. It’s a shame, but it’s my honest experience. I think the IPD was not the problem btw. While on the BSB discord I do see a lot being satisfied, a significant number of others have very similar thoughts to mine.

@borg2dog Ай бұрын

There's really no comparison to the Crystal light. Except for the weight of the Beyond. If you wanted to update from the HP reverb G2. You'd be better off with the crystal light because people who have HP reverb G2 probably don't have base stations. And with the Crystal light you can do base stations or inside out so you have two options. I don't think beyond is the future because people getting tired of the base station systems.😊 Inside out tracking is better if they perfected. Plus with inside out tracking you can move around the house if you have wireless. Where is base stations you have to be in front of the base station or it's not going to work.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Yeah if you dont have base stations the Light is the obvious choice.

@AINEET Ай бұрын

Would totally get the BSB if I had a light house system... but investing in that when we dont know if valve will continue using it, makes it a no for me

@Jogngood Ай бұрын

I wonder if you lower the brightness of the crystal to the beyonds brightness will it be comparable in black levels

@SargonDragon Ай бұрын

No. The local dimming feature gets you part way to OLED. It's nice because you get some of that capability without dealing with the downsides of OLED. But it can't compete with actual OLED in black levels.

@FieryMeltman Ай бұрын

OLED is inherently superior to QLED in terms of black levels since each pixel is individually lit. In all current LCD panels, including QLED, multiple pixels share a common light source, which means their black levels are inferior to OLED.

@justacooldudeuknow28 Ай бұрын

But Bigscreen doesn't do 120hz. Crystal does.

@SargonDragon Ай бұрын

That's a significant consideration. The Beyond only does 75Hz at native resolution. However, having recently got one I was surprised to find that at least for me their claim that 75Hz OLED feels like 90Hz LCD is true. The difference in smooth framerate between these two headsets isn't as wide as it appears on paper. But yes, the Crystal is still advantaged on this.

@investinjahcoin5029 Ай бұрын

The beyond at 90hz feels just as responsive as the 120hz in the quest 3 or crystal for me. Oled has a 1000x faster pixel response time compared to lcd especially. So input lag is reduced significantly

@julianmazzola Ай бұрын

I have both. It's really weird the way OLED persistence makes for a much smoother effect. I've never even bothered trying my Beyond in 90 hz mode because the 75 looks strangely so smooth.

@ji3200 Ай бұрын

90hz on oled panel can act like 120hz on lcd panel. Also oled has high contrast make visual sharper on far distance

@mattymatt2323 Ай бұрын

Big screen beyond is a no brainer against a pimax. Ill wait for the beyond 2 i dont think i can handle glare again like the Cv1

@scratchacker Ай бұрын

Yup. Let them work out all the kinks. The 2nd gen is going to be great. Plus competitors can swoop in with a similar product in time

@whiteandnerdytuba Ай бұрын

Not an upgrade if it’s tethered.

@mururoa7024 Ай бұрын

But you need to scan your face with an iPhone, right? "iPhone XR or newer" I don't have an iPhone and I don't know anyone who has one, so... asking a stranger in the street I guess?

@Schwing27 20 күн бұрын

Huge disagree..it doesn’t have OpenXR. You need a lighthouse. It’s dimmer. And lower resolution…

@mixedrealityTV 20 күн бұрын

Watch the video.

@gaminginstilllife9429 Ай бұрын

Crystal Lite, i dont have base stations and i get a great heatset for a better price that wont die after 2 hours

@borg2dog Ай бұрын

Not sure if you're saying but Crystal light has inside out tracking and can be ran without base stations

@khaledassaf6356 Ай бұрын

Wait, why would either headset die after 2 hours? Neither is battery powered.

@cadergator Ай бұрын

@@khaledassaf6356i think he meant the crystal lite was inside out without a battery compared to the quest series, which has a battery.

@khaledassaf6356 Ай бұрын

@@cadergator Ah, yeah, in that case, I definitely agree. Guest line is great entry level VR, but definitely leaves a lot to be desired for PCVR.

@wittyname-sy5je Ай бұрын

Any word yet on when you guys will get your hands on a final production version of the Somnium VR1? I just recently saw VR flight sim guy's through the lense comparison of a semi-recent version against the pimax crystal and am intrigued. I love the idea of the bigscreen beyond and appreciate a company attempting to achieve an ultralight headset. I think they were a little too overzealous in removing IPD (and perhaps eye relief) adjustment in pursuit of weight reduction. Potentially having to send back the headset multiple times just to get the IPD that works right for you doesn't sound very fun. Also I'm not interested in sharing a scan of my face. OLED sounds great but if they're behind lenses with blur and glare it kind of sours the overall experience. Hopefully they get enough business to survive and produce a second generation headset with a generic face mask, adjustability, more refined lenses, eye tracking and perhaps a larger FOV. The crystal light is definitely a smart move by Pimax but they should really offer eye tracking as an option. Driving that many pixels is not an easy task and fixed foveated rendering kind of negates the whole point of having decent edge to edge clarity. For DCS in particular, utilizing quad views dynamic foveated rendering can make a big difference in performance. I get why they kept it reserved for just the crystal for now. If they gave it to the crystal light there would be no reason to get a regular crystal outside of using it with the upcoming wireless adapter. But I still think that's going to hamstring the light a bit.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

Hi, unfortunately I have not heard from Somnium about a review unit. The comparison indeed looked good but I also think the Crystal looked unreasonablly bad in that video. Nevertheless I would also love to check out the VR1.

@wittyname-sy5je Ай бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV Interesting. Thanks for the response. I wonder if there's some variation in the manufacturing of Pimax's lenses causing that type of discrepency? At any rate, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the VR1.

@sasuofficial3448 21 күн бұрын

1.4 k vs 699 ??? XD

@farmertrueVR Ай бұрын

The only two reasons for the Beyond is that it's smaller & offers blacker blacks. Even though the Crystals QLED with local dimming already offer extremely dark blacks that are similar to OLED. To each their own but an HMD that costs twice as much for worse visuals, no audio solution and requires basestations and other companies' controllers just doesn't make sense to me.

@ComdrStew Ай бұрын

If Pimax would have made the light to begin with they would have cornered the VR market. Would have probably even hurt the Q3.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

True!

@lukaszb3651 Ай бұрын

Bigscreen Beyond cost £1,149 so we can't compare that with Cristal Light, especially without local dimming. Bigscreen Beyond also has one massive downside in my opinion - no adjustable IPD. I know that before you order Bigscreen Beyond they will take the IPD measurement but I still prefer to have an option to adjust it manually if I feel that it is necessary, otherwise you will stuck with fixed IPD you can't even tune. It is too risky to buy a VR headset for £1,149 with fixed IPD. Also the lenses on BB are worst than on Cristal Light. The biggest benefit of BB are only super small size and OLED panels (but still with lower resolution than on Cristal Light). If the size of the headset is not your concern the Cristal Light with local dimming is unbeatable winner here, for me no-brainer. There is also another massive downside of BB - you probably will not be able to sell it if you decide to do it in the future. Why? Because BB comes with custom IPD and custom face cushion. So if you want to sell it on second hand market you will need to find the buyer with the same IPD and shape of the face like your. So trying to sell it BB headset will be pretty much pointless. Many users include myself when buying new VR headset want to sell the old one, but I will not be able to do it with BB. I don't know if decision of making custom IPD+face cushion was driven purely to minimise the weight of the headset or was a commercial decision so the users will be forced to buy only brand new headset from BB rather than second hand one. I appreciate that BB trying to sell it super light vr headset which in general is a brilliant idea, but for what cost? I think that they went one step too far. So people who are planning to buy BB should be aware that very likely they will not be able to get any money back in the future from that headset.

@flyhalf2 Ай бұрын

The other elephant in the room is the cost of base stations and controllers. If you already a headset that uses base stations and compatible controllers surely you would sell these with your headset rather than just the headset alone because who would buy a headset and then have to buy lighthouses and controllers?

@SargonDragon Ай бұрын

You're missing the biggest benefit the Beyond has over the Crystal Light. It's not made by Pimax. Pimax is a weird company which produces powerful cutting edge VR headsets, but they never finish them. They habitually release them at 95% done and then rush off to work on the next future headset. So what customers get is a product full of bugs and unpolished, unfinished, or missing features. If you can get them working stably, their products are great. Until the next firmware update that breaks things again. I've been running Pimax headsets for years. And I wouldn't recommend them to most people unless you are dedicated and technically savvy enough to deal with their BS. If you can get them to work, they're amazing. I recently got a Bigscreen Beyond, and it was nothing like buying a Pimax headset. It was simple to setup and worked correctly right out of the box. No pain involved. This is a company that is building and focusing on _one_ VR headset, not half a dozen at once. And it shows. Regarding your concerns about IPD, Bigscreen will change out the headset for the correct IPD if its wrong. And once it's right, it's right. No further adjustments will be needed. My IPD was correct from the start. The company claims that this is the case 85% of the time, and the remainder normally get it on the second try. It's a hassle up front, but once you've got it set, you're good. As for price comparison, if you're comparing like for like, you need to include the Lighthouse faceplate and local dimming on the Crystal Light. And this brings them pretty close to the same price. I agree Crystal Light has better lenses though. The comparison between these two headsets is a mixed bag overall. But to me, it's really going to come down to how stable the Crystal Light is. Doesn't matter how well it compares if it doesn't work.

@juanfran3924 Ай бұрын

And what about PSVR2 when it gets PC support?, OLED with eyetracking and cheaper, only downside I can think of is fresnel lenses.

@GovernorHS Ай бұрын

@@juanfran3924idk maybe someone here can elaborate why PSVR2 has mura and BB does not? I borrowed a PSVR2 to play Resi4 and to test it, and while still being a great headset the mura was quite prominent, unfortunately. I did not mind the lenses. But I would not 100 % count on Sony to finish the pc job.

@lukaszb3651 Ай бұрын

@@SargonDragon I've never used Pimax headsets before and I've heard that their products may be a little bit upolished like you said, but the reason why so far I'm interested of buying the Cristal Light is because I believe that Pimax have learn something from their previous headsets and they will not make the same bugs again. In general as far as I know most if not all bugs has been fixed on current Pimax headsets and the Cristal Light will be only a strip down version of the more powerful headset, so I believe and hoping that there are much less chances that something can go wrong with the new product. I really look forward to see the first reviews of Cristal Light and what Sebastian things about this headset. So far for me Bigscreen Beyond is out of my reach with £1,149 price tag. It is a very tempting device and I'm pretty sure that in the future most of headsets will look like this but for know I prefer to spend much less money and wait year or two when device like Bigscreen Beyond will cost less. But to be honest I still think that except of small size and light weight the BB is not a winner here compared to Cristal Light (with LD). Cristal Light has just better screen resolution and way better lenses. Ok, it might require more fiddling but like you said if you get the settings right the reward is great. Like Sebastian said, apparently looks like a glossy magazine :-)

@juanfran3924 Ай бұрын

I don't own nor have access to a phone capable of face scans for the facial interface. For me that's a lot of extra money I have to spend. And I really dislike glare. I'm going to wait for the PSVR2 PC support, cheaper headset that has OLED and eye tracking.

@sean.d7171 Ай бұрын

racing simulators 120hz is a advantage with the crystal. I also like bigger lenses with the crystal its sweetspot is good. I don't think big screen and crystal light is as good as the quest 3 for roomscale games no wireless and the og crystal will be good with the wireless addon but only 90hz.

@paulbellino5330 Ай бұрын

I am waiting for the one headset that will rule them all. THE VALVE DECKARD.....PERIOD.......

@angrybeaver6667 Ай бұрын

it doesn't exist...

@paulbellino5330 Ай бұрын

@@angrybeaver6667 you do not know what you are talking about. It's coming but when, we will have to wait and see

@paulbellino5330 Ай бұрын

@@angrybeaver6667 me and Gabe are tight. He personally told me so, it's coming.

@lraiden7 Ай бұрын

This is not an ideal headset. Wired plus you need base stations. FOV limited. I would wait to see if Visor comes out with their promised headset.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

It's not for everyone and they are fine with it.

@TRX25EX Ай бұрын

In my opinion in 2024 only 3 headsets make sense to buy: 1. Quest 3 2. Vision Pro 3. Pico 4 Other than these 3 it's pointless to spend these kind of money, yes they are all wireless, yes they all have compression but wireless gameplay + ease of use by far more important than slight decrease in clarity.... We already achieved great clarity levels with these, now it's about comfort + ease of use + accessibility + software

@juanfran3924 Ай бұрын

I mostly play seated so I don't care for wireless. I have tried the Quest 3 and its FoV is so tight I felt like I was looking through a hole. Horrible black colors too, very washed out.

@borg2dog Ай бұрын

Quest 3 in Pico 4 if you don't care about visuals. Vision pro too expensive!! And if you play games there's really no Big choice in Gaines since they don't support steam right now vision pro the workaround loses quality.

@TRX25EX Ай бұрын

@@borg2dog Vision Pro nowadays can be had for cheap like around 2500 I seen people get it at, yes expensive but it's use cases is beyond the likes of Bigscreen or Crystal...... For seated PCVR Crystal light might be the answer to be honest then price is really good but I'm talking about Bigscreen Beyond not being worth it over those options

@borg2dog Ай бұрын

@@TRX25EX where did they get the vision pro for 2500 the normal price is $3,500? I assume it must be used.

@TRX25EX Ай бұрын

@@borg2dog Open box (not even registered yet), some used are even under that slightly, they go down to 2200 Their resale value not great tbh

@Jogngood Ай бұрын

Im so confused

@pamo5900 Ай бұрын

ur not the only one, MRTV also is :D

@MRTVDeutsch Ай бұрын

Just watch the video. :)

@MRTVDeutsch Ай бұрын

@@pamo5900 Haha, not at all! There is not one perfect headset for all. Great we have options!!!

@DinoBroers 18 күн бұрын

Totally disagree. And from that moment, this channel doesn’t count for me anymore.

@mixedrealityTV 18 күн бұрын

Haha... :) Which part do you disagree with then? Did you WATCH this video or just read the title? Common mistake!

@killdano Ай бұрын

Big screen beyond is for watching movies. That's why they didn't prioritize refresh rate.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

If they made this for watching movies only they should have prioritized getting rid of the glare.

@somerandomperson8282 Ай бұрын

I don't understand clickbait video titles like this from people who consider themelves professional reviewers. With this video title are outright telling people NOT to buy a Pimax Crystal Light (PCL), when what you really say in the video is "that the Bigscreen Beyond MAY or MIGHT be the right headset for your viewers"? The BSB costs double what the Pimax costs and it needs old-tech clunky base stations, whereas the PCL is inside out tracked. The entire point of the PCL will be getting great visuals for a cheap price and it will not be a direct competitor to the BSB.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

It's like with books, don't judge them by the cover. Would you have clicked on a video that said in it's title "The Bigscreen Beyond may or might be an alternative to the Pimax Crystal Light"? Probably not. So you see, it's YOUR fault. And now you even engaged with the video because of the title which you might not have done with the boring one. Again, it's your fault! :)

@keithbriscoe99 Ай бұрын

pimax probably feels more realistic to wearing a racing or fighter pilot helmet, though...

@piotrgrajek717 Ай бұрын

For the first few minutes that's true, however its still more front heavy than just a helmet. I have been using It for iracing for few days. It really make you that you dont wanna turn your head to much. Especialy if you have to just glance quickIy to see the car next to you and get back sight forward to the track.. Also you really just using every moment to put IT down to relax your neck between races . Still using It because visuals are great but actually looking for the beyond now.

@keithbriscoe99 Ай бұрын

@@piotrgrajek717 I'm hoping the crystal light sheds enough weight and from the right places to help.

@piotrgrajek717 Ай бұрын

@@keithbriscoe99 well if they get rid of the battery from the back and stuff related to eye tracking and auto IPD, It might keep the balance which is not that bad now. Just combined with overal weight its a bit too much now. Anyways still going to give a try bigscreen beyond.

@axev133 Ай бұрын

I'll now unsubscribe after this very biased advice which IMO is based on a comparison of apples with oranges.

@mixedrealityTV Ай бұрын

See you later! BTW, did you actually watch the video? Which part is biased and towards what?

@SargonDragon Ай бұрын

I have both. I watched the video, and I think MRTV presents the comparisons between them quite well. It's a mixed bag. But these are definitely two headsets that will be competing with each other.