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Mixing Hip Hop Vocals with 2 Plugins: Jeff Ellis (Doja Cat, Frank Ocean)

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Mix engineer Jeff Ellis (Doja Cat, Frank Ocean) likes to keep his plugin chain minimal. Find out how - with JUST Silk Vocal and the Magma Tube Channel - he achieves perfect hip-hop vocals.
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@lyncboy
@lyncboy 8 ай бұрын
Instead of saying if you have seven plugins on a vocal you're doing something wrong, he should have said if you have seven vocal plugins that you're using there is an easier way..
@whodisguy7003
@whodisguy7003 8 ай бұрын
It also helps to have vocals that are recorded well in a pro studio with a pro engineer. Versus some of us who have to mix vocals recorded in a bedroom on budget gear.
@otocolobus8187
@otocolobus8187 8 ай бұрын
@@whodisguy7003 Of course, dude has tracking gear worth 10 times everything I possess and question my need to cook my vocals a tad more. Tho he just works in a fancy studio for very long, good for him.
@whodisguy7003
@whodisguy7003 8 ай бұрын
@@otocolobus8187 Absolutely the same over here my guy
@0letdown0
@0letdown0 8 ай бұрын
Would it kill you to level match the before and after at 6:41 Waves? It's 2023.
@Chu_the_Master
@Chu_the_Master 8 ай бұрын
I have a gut feeling that a lot of people who hated Waves still miss Waves...
@minimumviablepizza
@minimumviablepizza 8 ай бұрын
I love Jeff's minimal relaxed approach to engineering, I also have this plugin and it has heaps of potential.
@ZimonHolmbergAudio
@ZimonHolmbergAudio 8 ай бұрын
Wait, hold up. You're saying if you're using more than 7 plugins you're doing something wrong? Yet the two plugins you're using in this showcase has a combined plugin force of 7 plugs? Silk vocals is a dynamic EQ, De-esser-ish and a compressor. The magma plugin consist of four plugins in one. Harmonic distorter, EQ, compressor and a gate. So, seven plugins in two. And not to speak of the "analog plugins" (hardware gear) used while recording? I'm just pointing this out to the people getting discouraged here that this statement is, well, weird. Keep mixing with your ears people and use whatever you need to get the sound you want. :)
@sonsblanco
@sonsblanco 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree man, most of us have to deal with untreated room conditions, background noises and budget gear. The source signal for Jeff was already outstanding so ofc it didn't require the world to fix it
@jaydabliu
@jaydabliu 7 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@FADY-MAALOUF
@FADY-MAALOUF 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your review. With all due respect and considering the unique challenges faced by a rapper, it might be challenging to assess this plugin's suitability with an artist limited to a 3-note vocal range, as it may not fully encompass the spectrum required for singers.
@daddyslittlejunkies
@daddyslittlejunkies 8 ай бұрын
"vocal range" you are kind.
@baub58
@baub58 8 ай бұрын
It would be nice to hear this demonstrated with a singer.
@johnplainsong9769
@johnplainsong9769 8 ай бұрын
A rapper. Not a singer.
@joelonsdale
@joelonsdale 8 ай бұрын
A good demo should be before/after level matched or all we hear is LOUDER. Interesting video and I now know how to use the thing, but level-matching is CRITICAL in a demo.
@NovaBro.
@NovaBro. 8 ай бұрын
I enjoy the choice of words "finesse the mid range" 😂
@foodstampz
@foodstampz 8 ай бұрын
I want to thank Waves for giving out Silk plugin for free Black Friday..what an amazing from the best plug in / hardware audio company ever 👐
@anuragdixit473
@anuragdixit473 8 ай бұрын
Can we use this plugin like 'Soothe 2' or 'Pro Q3' as a sidechain effect where the plugin suppresses/ reduces the problematic resonances? Thank you for sharing the above video!
@NoQualmsTheArtist
@NoQualmsTheArtist 8 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what it’s doing
@NRVE8
@NRVE8 8 ай бұрын
not from within the plugin... youd have to set it up through your daw.. i made a video on this plugin and that was one of my complaints as well
@johnplainsong9769
@johnplainsong9769 8 ай бұрын
Soothe 2 is no longer needed. Silk is better and much cheaper!
@stserge
@stserge 7 ай бұрын
To be honest I don't hear the difference when he's demonstrating vocal with and without the plugin...
@NRVE8
@NRVE8 8 ай бұрын
I did a video on East West Studios, didnt even see this room! lol
@Nicostyles08
@Nicostyles08 8 ай бұрын
I like it a lot !!! 🎉
@plentygocrazy8056
@plentygocrazy8056 8 ай бұрын
The song sounding good is it out yet?
@Numocron
@Numocron 8 ай бұрын
Wow man this is amazing I love it.😃👍❤️
@foodstampz
@foodstampz 8 ай бұрын
Wow..im very interested in those Kali audio monitors.. what are the black Kali ones on the other console ?
@heyimoolox
@heyimoolox 8 ай бұрын
did he have an eq on the vocal before using silk?
@d3zan946
@d3zan946 8 ай бұрын
Great video! But we gotta admit it sounded great from the start haha
@FinancialThing
@FinancialThing 8 ай бұрын
Sweet video
@bogelmanDDD
@bogelmanDDD 8 ай бұрын
Отличный плагин!
@khngai
@khngai 8 ай бұрын
May I know the order of the plugins ? Magma Tube Channel first ? or silk vocal first ?
@starwaystudiospro
@starwaystudiospro 8 ай бұрын
Would be better to place Silk first (because silk is cleaning things up and setting the vocal good.. before the Magma adds more gain, saturation and mojo :) #HappyMixing
@khngai
@khngai 8 ай бұрын
@@starwaystudiospro Thank you
@youngregin
@youngregin 4 ай бұрын
Is he using these plugins on a bus channel?
@waves
@waves 4 ай бұрын
Yes, he is.
@bossmanmusic1600
@bossmanmusic1600 8 ай бұрын
Lol that definetly doesnt sound finished but good effort
@guitarayito
@guitarayito 8 ай бұрын
What are those white speakers ? What brand are those ?
@airhosa
@airhosa 8 ай бұрын
Kali Audio IN 8.... that speaker has a very flat response
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 8 ай бұрын
People that choose speakers based on their frequency response are weird. Real pros choose monitors that match the colour of the plugin they're shilling.
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 8 ай бұрын
People that choose speakers based on their frequency response are weird. Real pros choose monitors that match the colour of the plugin they're shilling.
@JSSTUDIO-wr2jq
@JSSTUDIO-wr2jq 8 ай бұрын
🙂👍
@SallyT.
@SallyT. 2 ай бұрын
This video is complete SCHMALTZ.
@henryklein4978
@henryklein4978 8 ай бұрын
That tool does not make this music ;-)
@gobrad
@gobrad 8 ай бұрын
I cannot understand why you would pick a rapper over a singer to demonstrate a vocal plugin… If I was doing this I’d pick a person who could actually sing!!!!!
@romandricardo
@romandricardo 7 ай бұрын
It’s almost like, just almost, a rapper is vocalist
@romandricardo
@romandricardo 7 ай бұрын
I hate y’all music elitist who are really just closeted racists. If you don’t like rap music why even take the time to comment. Millions of videos out there that can actually help you if you actually cared to learn
@gobrad
@gobrad 7 ай бұрын
@@romandricardo because the video had potential, whereas rapers cannot sing!! They sound like epilepsy on speed!! It’s dreadful!!!
@crystal.argentina
@crystal.argentina 4 ай бұрын
ok, now sounds louder, waves sucks with demonstrations
@johnnydelaware2862
@johnnydelaware2862 8 ай бұрын
Love the minimalist approach. Dude kinda annoys me though. Acts like he knows everything while using a cheap ass waves plug-in 😂
@romandricardo
@romandricardo 7 ай бұрын
Bro engineered frank oceans blonde😭 he def knows a thing or two. Also, waves plugins are great. Some pros use stock plugins if they like it. Has nothing to do with price
@user-fg4on6it7o
@user-fg4on6it7o 8 ай бұрын
intelligente girl 51
@blakejames9952
@blakejames9952 7 ай бұрын
Is this really what people are listening to now days? The mix is fine, the music is terrible.
@GSP.beats.
@GSP.beats. 8 ай бұрын
This isn't hip hop. This is 4 on the floor. Rapping doesn't make it hip hop. Decent vid tho.
@romandricardo
@romandricardo 7 ай бұрын
Rapping is literally the only category that makes it hip hop🤦‍♂️ since when was hip hop based on specific instrumental elements. Three six mafia, playboi carti, biggie, Drake, death grips, earl sweatshirt, Kanye. All hip hop.
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