PRESSFIT PLUMBING FAIL or User Error?? This is REAL WORLD PLUMBING

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11 ай бұрын

Pressfit plumbing fail or was it totally my fault........ either way i got soaked, but its Real World Plumbing as always on my channel.
in this video i start another bathroom renovation for a customer who is doing a lot of the work themselves but needed me to do the plumbing side of things
#plumbing #fail #howto

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@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Please watch this to the end to see exactly what happened👍🏼👍🏼 And get subscribed… let’s see if this video can get us to 30k subs

@skunkyboy5481 11 ай бұрын

I’ve been doing a lot of crimp recently, the way I do it, put a mark in sharpie on each fitting as you crimp it.

@michaelpyra7554 11 ай бұрын

It's Michaels grandson I probably will subbie

@dougbamford1810 11 ай бұрын

MJ excellent videos ! I ve been using Viega press since 2009 you can feel each fitting and feel if your tool has pressed or not before turning the water back on the very first time I used the tool to install a hot water cylinder I had one joint not pressed and I was able to simply press the fitting with the water on. I ve even pressed lever valves on when the house main wouldn’t completely shut off. Undoubtedly I am crazy about making witnesses marks before pressing so I can go back over to make sure everything is fully Inserted before and after pressing the fittings. All this being said tho I do wonder sometime is it really worth it all I mean with just my truck I ve spent around $7k on the tool , jaws, and the ring adapters for pressing at tight spots or at walls and floors etc. I also have the jaws to press iron pipe from 1/2” thru 2” in the states they have pulled out of copper gas fittings but is it all worth it in the end really? In some situations definitely cutting and treading steel YES but installing or REPAIRING copper pipe it really depends. I also feel like the copper fitting manufacture are pushing the prices of solder fittings up to be closer to press since 2020. Anyhow love the vids keep ‘em coming Just some of a plumbers thoughts on a Saturday night!

@fabianmckenna8197 10 ай бұрын

Hats off to you for showing that, while not only proving you're human, but pointing out why it happened. Must admit that my first plumbing attempt using compression fittings, I turned water back on full power and immediately heard that dreaded hiss as it cascaded out of my bad job. After that, I always turn water on very slowly and check........ just in case!

@tokomac7728 9 ай бұрын

marking marking marking marking😅😅😅😅

@mattundercoat 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for that, Mark. You could have edited that out and nobody would have been any the wiser … but then nobody would have been any the wiser. Having spent most of today reminding myself why I’m not a plumber, it’s refreshing to see even the pros make mistakes - and the best ones are the ones who admit it.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

That’s the whole point of the channel…. To show “Real World Plumbing”….. This is what happens now and again…… 👍🏼👍🏼

@trojanhorsey 11 ай бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing Mate I dread to think the damage a fitting failing could do in a wall of under the floor I imagine you capped that and ran down stairs in 30 seconds mains pressure is scary stuff lol.

@michaelpyra7554 11 ай бұрын

Hi its Michaels grandson again me and my grandad are trade plumbers hahahaha

@robinwigley1996 11 ай бұрын

Good job you could test it

@tonyjohnson4004 8 ай бұрын

best ones solder the copper

@thetruthwillwinoneday 11 ай бұрын

Fellow plumber here, been thinking of going flame free but you have just convinced me to stay with my trusty blow torch. Those fittings are a fortune as well. Love the videos m8.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Pros and cons for each to be fair

@superwout 11 ай бұрын

My friend, flame free id not a necessity if you have a little common sense. I prefer soldering over press fittings because there no rubber O-rings that can fail over time and PEX fittings because of the same reason: no rubber

@jonhandle 10 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t have me using those nothing wrong with solder and a blow torch

@michaeldegroot7550 6 ай бұрын

I have seen plenty of soldering fittings from 30+ years old that were loose. So a rubber or soldering, over time everything can go bad. Two reasons I choose for press fittings. It is a lot quicker and you don't have to work with an open flame so there is no chance of a fire. And trust me this happens more than people think. Only thing with press fittings is they became ridiculous expensive in the last three years.

@twig3288 6 ай бұрын

It’s much easier to remake a soldered joint or the old style compression joints with olives I put this new type of fitting into the same category as keyless entry and electric parking brakes on cars.

@keithmclean3151 8 ай бұрын

Well done Mark. Top marks to you for having pride in your work. We are only human. You are nice enough to share so we can all learn.

@MJTiffPlumbing 8 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@calebanguiano1944 11 ай бұрын

I enjoy watching your videos. I'm a plumber in America, and I'm always interested in the way other countries do plumbing. Nice work.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Hey buddy… glad you like the content. I would love to come over and do some plumbing in the US 👌🏼👌🏼

@poyeep6123 Ай бұрын

Man... You are the star. Watching you because of your honest approach to the job. No one is perfect and if someone is telling you the other way just run away. Great job as usual.

@MJTiffPlumbing Ай бұрын

Thankyou mate, Appriciate the comment…. It’s always Real World Plumbing on my channel👍🏼👍🏼

@andyfadian 11 ай бұрын

Class act Mark for showing the good and bad bits of real world plumbing 👏👏

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 🙌🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

@jonwalsh3343 11 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, Great video as usual. I always put a cross on each side of every fitting once we have pressed it, also helps to draw round the pipe once inserted when you have pushed them together so you can see if the copper ever slips back before pressing.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@TomRedshawPK 11 ай бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing I do this as well, just a little X on each side of the fitting, bit more work but helps you see at a glance if youve done it or not, we've all been there 👍

@Wingnut2000007 11 ай бұрын

Your supposed to put a cross next to a pressed fitting and your initial , we have been using press for years now but it took a lot of convincing , but it does work out expensive if you have to cut it all out, like Mark press can fail but it is a learning curve... I drilled through a water main twice in 1 day it happens lol.

@leefairhurst9058 11 ай бұрын

What a faff sorry guy's I'll stick with my much cheaper bullet proof easier to install end feed

@keithcampbell7214 11 ай бұрын

Real world plumbing, these things happen this is why I like watching your channel Mark. It shows how to rectify issues when they need sorting, keep the good work coming.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy…. Exactly what it’s all about…. Real World Plumbing

@ultrasteve9031 11 ай бұрын

That's the mini nightmare we all dread, especially when you're in the house on your own and you've got to get to the stop tap. Thanks for showing it all. I had a rad blow when i was giving the system a flush and black sludge went everywhere. Sh1t happens, it's how you deal with it. Well done Mark. I can see how the press fit is tricky to be sure you've pressed them all.Cheers for the honest vid.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

100% that buddy….. it’s how you deal with it👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼

@acefreaky2988 10 ай бұрын

Not a big fan of pressfit anyway.

@andrewsands2481 11 ай бұрын

Well done for showing that mark. We always put an 'x' in Sharpie on either side of the press as a witness mark or I prefer to use the gerberit fittings so you can easily see when you have pressed them.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@digitaria 10 ай бұрын

Respect to you for showing that human error. Just finished a bathroom and ended up having to replace the kitchen ceiling. Keep up the great work.

@MJTiffPlumbing 10 ай бұрын

Real world plumbing

@stevereynolds7375 11 ай бұрын

Although I've always thought the Geberit fittings are not good for the environment with their plastic caps and plastic wraps at least you can see what has been pressed and what hasn't. Big fan of pressfit great for leaks and in roofs. Great videos keep up the good work 👏

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate…. Yep, the covers that break when it’s pressed are very handy

@markspencer6235 11 ай бұрын

I always mark the fitting using a green marker pen to confirm it’s been done ✅ well done for showing how some days just don’t go to plan, which is all part of the job !!! Keep up the good work 😊

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy….. real world plumbing

@theCybershot123 11 ай бұрын

agree put green marker on a piece of string so it does not get lost

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

That’s a shout👍🏼

@superwout 11 ай бұрын

How long will you keep that up when you're tired, have a lack of time...maybe you have more discipline than I do

@kumaram2944 11 ай бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbinghow do I contact you?

@JanusDarke1 8 ай бұрын

For anyone that is in a hurry: It's user error. Pressfittings don't fail when installed correctly. We use these for over 30 years almost exclusively in germany. They are prone to user error however. That's why producers like Viega have instructions on how to install them. You have to mark the insertion depths and you have to mark already pressed fittings. Doing that gives you a perfect track record. **ALWAYS DOUBLE-CHECK EACH AND EVERY SINGLE CONNECTION.**

@MJTiffPlumbing 8 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@ciogon 7 ай бұрын

Then why not using multilayer pipe with press fittings?pex-al-pex..those dont leak,and much easier to install and press...

@9720miller 11 ай бұрын

It’s nice to see a plumber showing the bad bits too. I always use Giberit fittings as like you said you have the plastic on the collar of the fittings to confirm if it’s pressed.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate…… Real World Plumbing here😉👍🏼

@fraza7977 11 ай бұрын

The o ring falling out whilst dealing with the leak was unlucky, should get into the habit of marking a cross on the fitting ends after each crimp you do, saves any seconding guessing 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yep…. Still learning with the press game

@yugando 10 ай бұрын

Yea I carry a few sharpies for that very reason

@juliestreet8688 11 ай бұрын

Oh God this wasnt good for my hot flushes 😂😂😂 Reminded me of the time I cut the wrong pipe and blasted black radiator sludge all over a cream carpet 😮😢 Well done Mark I bet you could not wait to get home, Just Another Manic Monday!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Black sludge…. Nasty nasty nasty

@garyredfern5303 11 ай бұрын

And that's why you check all fittings before the flooring goes down. I was talking to conex and he said the v fittings will weep if not pressed up to 6 bar. I never want to find out if that's true. Great video #realworld 👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

@hamblevalley 11 ай бұрын

I would use them in a thatched loft else it's always end feed for me, unless it's impossible to get all the water out. I'm old school but well practiced in soldering. Great videos though Mark, it takes guts to show failures, many only show where it goes well even though everyone has the odd problem.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate….. just showing exactly how are days are, good and bad

@Bikergerbil 11 ай бұрын

Been using Mapress for years with no problems that I know of. Best way to make sure you've crimped all the joints is to mark them with a sharpie as you go. Quick, easy, (should be) foolproof. One job I worked on we had to initial each crimp so that if there were any leaks the boss would know who to blame.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@taylorpalmer8226 11 ай бұрын

I always use the geberit mapress fittings which are the ones you mentioned which have the little plastic bits wrapped round which come off after you crimp it! I don’t like using any others for that reason lol

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

I know what your saying buddy 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@andystephenson7102 11 ай бұрын

Same, I always use the ones with the plastic on too. Maybe a paint marker built in to the press tool so it marks up the joint once you've crimped it. Get on with it Rothenberger, you can have that idea for free!

@LN2Poachers 5 ай бұрын

I think it’s great that you’re showing even the pros are only Human and make mistakes. Handled it really well too. Great video

@MJTiffPlumbing 4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate…. We all make mistakes, it’s how you deal with them that counts. Real World Plumbing on my channel, when it goes right and wrong… we are all human👍🏼👍🏼

@mattygeepph4115 11 ай бұрын

Top work mark it takes a honest person to show a mistake fairly play they look like the gut press fittings wich don't come with any indicators once you've pressed them been caught out a few times best thing to do is put a visible pen mark after pressing hope this helps 😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@kendevanny4078 11 ай бұрын

Very pressing situation kid, loved how you flew up the stairs the second time lol.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Hahah thanks mate

@michaeldegroot7550 6 ай бұрын

Glad to see I am not the only one that has made this mistake. I forgot one to press two months ago. Sadly the wall was allready closed but luckily it was my own house 😅

@MJTiffPlumbing 6 ай бұрын

Real world plumbing on this channel….. I show it all, not just the good bits

@andyroberts9562 11 ай бұрын

Ace video Mark real world plumbing as you say these things happen and thanks for leaving it in, I once jigsawed through a live mains cold pipe (im a diy'er) that feeling knowing you have to leave it to run downstairs to switch the mains off 😂, we do a lot of offsite pipework so mark the fittings once pressed

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@Lizzard-t 11 ай бұрын

No matter how careful anyone is with making sure there's no leak , as sure as eggs are eggs ,if its wants to leak ,it will leak . I've had it where I've soldered a fitting and it looks water tight ,but the blighter shows me otherwise,or it just takes that split time where you get distracted. I've even had an occurrence where I didn't solder a joint and it held for a while. After 45 years in the industry anyone who says they never get a leak is a liar . I watched it a when it blew I felt myself panicking, it's not a good feeling. As you say it's " real world plumbing" and brought it home. Great save there on your part . And yes,I have finally subscribed.because what you show is all real and none of this " click bait " Thank you for all you do !

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Exactly all of that mate 👍🏼👍🏼

@andyt741 11 ай бұрын

ive been in the game 36yrs and yes we all have dodgy days,ive seen solder joints never solderd and have stayed tight just with the flux, however ive never been convinced of any push fit or the press fit crap, age old problem of a bit of rubber with a hole causing a lifetime of grief or till they leave home, on a serious note i had a bag of 15mm end feed elbows with pin holes in , lucky for me i felt sometimg on the back of my hand , couldnt see the fine jet of water and was very lucky as it was going to be under a very expensive floor for many years, no comment from the supplier or manufacture when i ranted at the merchants.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Always something to keep you on your toes

@richardaird2880 11 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, As you say, "It is what it is"! we've all done it! even done it with soldered joints. Lesson learned there then " REAL WORLD PLUMBING"! Great honest video.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

100% that mate…… 👌🏼👌🏼

@diddywright6165 11 ай бұрын

Nice transparent content bud, not going to lie my stomach went when that fitting blew off, who’d be a plumber eh?!!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

And mine 🤣🤣

@cathyoshea3844 11 ай бұрын

Great video this has happened to every plumber, at some time. I personally don't see the advantage of press fit.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼

@quintdewit4870 11 ай бұрын

I met a plumber who put a mark on every joint he had pressed he used a black maker so you can see it very clearly I have done that ever since work like a charme just tape the cap of the marker on the Milwaukee press and you will always have a marker with you. Greetings from Belgium.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼 yep I’m going to be doing that

@tkthebear984 11 ай бұрын

Well that was very stressful for you Mark and also very interesting on how easy it is to forget to do a pressfit fitting. Personally I’m not keen on them as you don’t have a visual indication to show you it’s been done, like a soldered joint 🙂. I almost choked on my beer when all that water gushed out 😂 Great video 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Hahahaa…. Glad you enjoyed it mate

@okgroomer1966 7 ай бұрын

Sure you do. A pressed fitting shows obvious signs it's been pressed. I personally use a sharpie to make extra sure but they definitely look different

@kendom33 6 ай бұрын

That was really informative Mark. Thank you. Maybe mark the pipes after pressing?? I do that when leak checking Industrial gases

@MJTiffPlumbing 6 ай бұрын

Thanks mate… and yep moving forward I will do👌🏼👍🏼

@mathman0101 11 ай бұрын

In the US most have gone via the RLS and or Viega pro press fittings they seem to be much easier to determine when pressed. That being said still prefer to solder anything that that is fully covered by a floor or a ceiling. Good investigative work this experience will help avoid this kind of situation in the future.

@MJTiffPlumbing 10 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@robcoppin5699 11 ай бұрын

Real world Mark 👍Happens to us all it's just whether your man enough to admit it & you truly are 👌I went to do a cloakroom strip out & blank off yesterday & ended getting up more involved than my quote which resulted in a call back to a waste remodel that was weeping but i didn't hide from it

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

It’s what this channel is all about… Real World Plumbing… showing it all🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏼

@eddiestafford3313 11 ай бұрын

Great learning point Mark, its the type of thing that happens to everyone now and again on one of those Monday mornings. Great video buddy.👍👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@TheTW11 11 ай бұрын

Hat's off to you mate. Something I remember the old boys telling me when I was an apprentice, 36 years ago, "he who aint made a mistake, aint made nothing". Maybe just use a marker on each joint to confirm it's pressed. Something like that might do.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate👍🏼👍🏼

@user-yw6qb9tt7t 11 ай бұрын

Great intro.. No manky old towel underneath. Asking for trouble 😂

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@DABroke 11 ай бұрын

Great video and fair play to you for the full disclosure and as you say its real world plumbing and for me (as a DIY'er) its nice to know even the professionals have off days! I don't know much about these fittings but I assume that the diameter of a pressed and unpressed joint are different and I was wondering if it would be possible to get a metal block made up with a gap equivalent to the 'pressed' dia so that you could check each joint before restoring the water supply. I bit like a Go/NOGo gauge commonly used within the engineering industry.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Would add so much time to any job it wouldn’t be worth it… just mark the joint when done is the one

@cputilitysolutions 11 ай бұрын

Real world plumbing always mate - that must have been proper annoying having to cut out that section again!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Oh mate, you know when you look at sometime and go “oh ffs”….. 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@julianhawker7672 11 ай бұрын

Good save with the cap and screwdriver, shite happens ! I keep a couple of speedfit caps of various sizes in my bag for such panics. Props for not editing out.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Gotta show it as it really is🙌🏼🙌🏼👌🏼

@leonw5165 8 ай бұрын

Excellent one, Mark, real-time plumbing; this restores faith in myself; when things happen, sometimes I beat myself up.

@MJTiffPlumbing 8 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@donaldduncan6017 11 ай бұрын

When it rains IT RAINS on those days!!😂

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️yep

@elBusDriverKC 5 ай бұрын

I've forgot to clamp pex a couple of times. Water everywhere. I've also come across a situation where a CPVC joint had not been glued. It was just shoved together. And it held for 23 years until a bathroom remodel found it. I'd rather have a uncrimped connection blow right away as opposed to covering it up under a floor and then having it pop loose weeks, months later. At least you were there to shut things down quick!

@MJTiffPlumbing 5 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@83maller 6 ай бұрын

I love seeing this happen not because of damage or stress but it happens to the pro’s A lot of people would have edited this video You’ve gained a subscriber for your transparent 👍🏻👌👌

@MJTiffPlumbing 6 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy…. It’s what this channel is all about, when it goes right and wrong.. “Real World Plumbing”……😉

@nigel1964 11 ай бұрын

Interesting video Mark good job you had that cap to use otherwise it would of been another plastered ceiling. I agree there should be a better way of checking if you have pressed the fitting. Have a good week. 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼 Always have a cap near 🤣

@davek5839 11 ай бұрын

Great video, I'm still not sure about using press fit, like you said least with solder you can see if it's been done. If I'm working my own and I'm turning the water back on, I'll turn it on and let the pressure build up then turn it off again and check the pipework for leaks, if it's all OK then I'll turn the water on again and leave it on.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼 glad you enjoyed it

@garygillespie4188 11 ай бұрын

We had all new pipework done at the school where I work, the guys who was doing the works, was putting a x on each one they press fitted with a sharpie, I was saying wouldn’t like one of those 4” ones to blow 😂

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@RGB81-vr2se 7 ай бұрын

It is very kind of you being honest, this will remind everyone that it could happen, and pay attention, or use a marker or blue tape

@MJTiffPlumbing 6 ай бұрын

Thanks mate

@rogercoates1884 11 ай бұрын

The joys of plumbing, another £20 in fittings gone to the scrap bucket 😮

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Probably £25 in scrap🤣🤣

@bnstd 11 ай бұрын

On a different note to press fittings - look at how much the original fitter carved out of that joist to fit the waste pipe & collar!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yep 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@mickclarke5741 6 ай бұрын

Its the worst panic!! I still flap and completely lose my composure when something like this happens 😂

@MJTiffPlumbing 5 ай бұрын

Hahahaha…. Panic stations every time

@LemonGamingHD 11 ай бұрын

We have to put a cross on each joint after we press it on sites. Longs out the install but worth it to avoid unpressed joints..

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@edthelasttribe9580 11 ай бұрын

Easiest way to do it , mark with a marker from beginning, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 once you pressing it count the number one you know you on one than two , you definitely never missed this way, the other thing for press fitting you need copper reaming tool , otherwise pushing copper which pipe slicer never cuts even will cut trough a rubber ring , you must always use reaming tool .

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼…… my cutters are perfectly fine for pressfit… not an issue

@vitaliimelnichuk3311 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for video. Very good lessons in one video for everyone who works with press fittings. I didn’t even expect this rubber ring can come out. I have same press tool and some one tells me it must be calibrated with time otherwise it pressing badly and joints leaking

@MJTiffPlumbing 10 ай бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it

@rm-mastering 11 ай бұрын

Wow... great video with the pressfit, good tip whith making sure you check the pressfit fitting.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@ciaranboughton4713 11 ай бұрын

We all get days like that Mark joys of being a plumber real world plumbing mate 👊

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Keeps you on your toes mate 😉😉👌🏼

@seanmrt 10 ай бұрын

Nick Saunders said he’s got some rubber ducks if you want to borrow them 🤣🤣

@MJTiffPlumbing 10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣….. It’s the legendary Sean!!!!!…. Hello mate Tell Saunders he ain’t funny🤣🤣

@chrisholt2474 11 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, what a nightmare that must have been for you, as you say user error, just a slight change to your pressing routine will solve the problem. As others say, just mark the joint when you have pressed it and double check all are marked before you turn the water back on. It might also be worth double checking the rubber O ring is in situ before assembling the joint, belt and braces etc. it’s not a reason to avoid using pressfit, just part of the learning curve. Looks like a nice job and I look forward to the next episode, have a great week and take care especially with that press gun 😅, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Exactly that Chris…. Complete user error on this account… press wasn’t the issue

@SmartPipePlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Great video pal, you was making me nervous cutting that fitting open, could just see you cutting straight through your hand

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Hahaha……. That would of been content gold🤣

@b.w.gasservices 11 ай бұрын

I've done that...managed to go through my thumb nail..luckily stopped just as it went through the nail though. My arse was twitching after 😂😂

@duncanvincent9106 6 ай бұрын

That fail was so valuable to share. Thank you!

@MJTiffPlumbing 6 ай бұрын

Thanks mate…..

@johnboy2984 11 ай бұрын

Hi Mark. Fair play leaving that In Mark. As you say real world plumbing. Would be interesting to see what other plumbers do to remember which fittings they have pressed. I am sure you will get a system in place. Have a good week Mark 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate…. Yep I’m still learning the press game to be fair, and these things happen…. So showing it could help others👍🏼👍🏼

@bodinski100 5 ай бұрын

a little marker tick on the joint when youve pressed it...never miss another one...love the adrenalin rush when you pop a pipe ay haha

@MJTiffPlumbing 5 ай бұрын

👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@geneshort8160 11 ай бұрын

I was thinking turn the water off now... no dont touch... he touched it😅

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@am11744 11 ай бұрын

Very interesting, however I thought I was watching a Tarantino movie with all those caps being popped. 😮💥💥

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Hahah like it…..👍🏼👍🏼

@na55arg62 5 ай бұрын

After watching this I’m now convinced to stick with my trusted blow torch 😅

@MJTiffPlumbing 5 ай бұрын

Hahah

@chlalew 11 ай бұрын

Unlucky, every plumber/gasman feels your pain, but also has a cheeky laugh. After a similar incident with an unsoldered fitting, when turning on the water, I always turn it back off until the pipework is checked. That way you're not scrambling as much if something fails.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

All part of the job ain’t it… keeps you on your toes🤣👍🏼

@Theblackdahlia1 11 ай бұрын

Here is the argument for PEX A/Uponor lol But when I was training at a plumbing company years ago we were taught to either check for the teat created by the jaws of the press tool or mark the joints with a marker. Nevertheless the less great video and keep up the work!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy👍🏼👍🏼

@alimack5489 11 ай бұрын

I’ve done worse than that, called out to a leak from the ceiling unvented cylinder in the loft, pulled the boards up, on the landing pulled the nail that was in the pipe with it. Boiling hot water pissing everywhere mains was in the street no loft ladder to isolate the tank….. character building they call it… at 11pm on a Saturday night 😅

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Nightmare that mate……🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@alimack5489 11 ай бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing even better when the customer doesn’t know where the tap was outside (was under the van) and my thumb was quickly becoming boiled by said leaking water from the pipe 😂 become a plumber they said…

@jeremywhite5457 10 ай бұрын

Hi, good honest video. I have been pressing copper and MLCP for 15 years - use Geberit fittings - they have a thin plastic layer around the fitting that falls off (with a little help) after it has been pressed, either that or use a Sharpie to mark the fitting. Also, as with push fit, always mark the depth, these fittings can move when being pressed and move off the pipe. Geberit supply a depth marking tool with there press guns. There is nothing worse than wondering if the pipe pulled out a little, best to know for sure.

@MJTiffPlumbing 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeremy 👍🏼👍🏼

@bernie129locksmith 11 ай бұрын

Seen loads of these press fits fail on jobs - Im not a plumber but an old school plumber told me that when you solder a joint if it doesnt leak at the time it will never leak and hes been proved right - I have been building 40 years and you can rive the soldered pipes about and I havnt seen one leak yet - sometimes you just move a pushfit and it leaks

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yep I know what you mean👍🏼

@dmarriott9701 11 ай бұрын

S-t happens Mark, there’s always something going around your head. It’s dead easy to miss these joints and I would agree with you that with solder joints it’s easier to see what you’ve missed but stick with and I’m sure it will all drop into place. Top marks (excuse the pun) for showing real world plumbing.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate…… always real world plumbing on this channel😉👍🏼👍🏼

@andrewhayes4914 11 ай бұрын

I always put a cross with a sharpie " you lost yours " on all the fittings as I press them, also as for marking your pipe depth against the fitting, you should use a depth gauge to mark it first before inserting the pipe and not rely on just putting the pipe in and marking it, who knows if the pipes gone in all the way! the fitting might be squashed in the middle, Geberit do them they can be used for 15mm to 110mm and the marker pen comes with them

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼 yer I’ve got to get into the habit

@GasmanChris5705 11 ай бұрын

Brilliant vid mate, feel your pain 😅 defo been there 👍. I always use the fittings with the plastic film on now 👍🙏. Keep up the great work Mark 🤙

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yep they are Gebierit ones I think

@steveh100 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the lesson on possible errors coming my way I'm sure.

@MJTiffPlumbing 9 ай бұрын

😉…… everyday is a school day

@truthseeker7794 11 ай бұрын

I'm long retired mate but I can imagine how difficult it would be to keep track of all those joints. I think I'd be inclined to just put a mark with a felt tip on each joint as I did it. I'm surprised they haven't built something in to the tool to do that.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yep I will be in future I think mate 👍🏼👍🏼

@JanusDarke1 8 ай бұрын

There are fittings that have a ring around them that falls off once pressed. Viega press also marks the fitting with a small v, so you know you used the correct tool for the system.

@wmonteith1 8 ай бұрын

Every day is a school day Love your video's

@MJTiffPlumbing 8 ай бұрын

Thanks mate….. it’s all about sharing the tips and tricks

@geraintdavies5195 11 ай бұрын

I’m just thinking how much cheaper it would have been to solder all of that, and you could see whether it had been soldered. I just don’t trust pressfit, or myself to remember that I’ve pressed all the ends. By the time you’ve used new fittings,cleared up and redone the work you could have resoldered any leaking joint and been done and dusted. Having used pressfit quite a bit at work, I’m so not convinced on the benefits of it over soldering.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Pros and cons to both to be honest buddy… I get what your saying👍🏼

@geraintdavies5195 11 ай бұрын

That’s what I like about your videos, you give both sides of the argument. I work in a hospital so we are limited on the ‘hot works’ we can do, but it’s such a hassle using pressfit in a lot of the awkward spaces we have to work in. I just find myself thinking ‘it would be so much easier if I could just solder this’!!! Keep up the good work and the videos. 👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yer, I know a few lads at my local hospital in the maintenance and they say the same👍🏼

@utterlyexiged 11 ай бұрын

Fair play for showing this mate, makes good content anyway. A pencil mark after each press to show what's been done perhaps.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy….. real world plumbing 👍🏼👍🏼

@551moley 11 ай бұрын

I worked for a company that did some National Trust work, no hot works or push fit/plastic allowed, odd bit for cosmetic or to overcome access issues was soldered in the van! Out of interest I did some destruction tests on a few joints and found with a bit of a wobble you can just pull out the press fit!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

😮😮 really

@peterbeck493 11 ай бұрын

I found this on Wednesbury tube it moves in the fitting,Lawton tube is much better Wednesbury is skimping on outside diameter.

@rogerbrown9783 11 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, looks like a typical Monday, if you look you can see the ones you have pressed by the crimp marks that it leaves on the fittings, sometimes the bigger fittings weep and you can put a piece of paper around it and repress it, that is as long as it has a o ring in it.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Yep….. thought I had done them all👍🏼👍🏼

@okgroomer1966 7 ай бұрын

The ole missing O-ring. That got me one time in a restaurant. About 140 psi blasting the whole job because I was to dumb to check for o-rings.😂

@dd5617 11 ай бұрын

It's actually quite impressive how little they leak without the o ring

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

You know I thought that exact thing 👍🏼👍🏼

@antoniogalluccio4213 11 ай бұрын

I think that's because it is a tight fit. With plastic waste it can happen as well that pipe get stuck into the fitting and it doesn't leak at all. The water doesn't find its way out as there is no room. Halogens when I dry fit everything because like with pressfit on copper you don't get another chance to correct your mistakes and you've gotta cut the pipework and start over new!

@dd5617 11 ай бұрын

@@antoniogalluccio4213 Waste isn't mains pressure tho! 😂

@antoniogalluccio4213 11 ай бұрын

@dd5617 absolutely, but the principle behind that is exactly the same. I watched the video with no audio, and I was convinced that was central heating so not mains pressure, although not comparable with waste

@vid63 11 ай бұрын

Great vid as usual, but I’ve got say your soldering always looked much better then press fit, I completely get it, time saving etc and it’s not seen for the most part, the soldering work just looked better …..but I am a viewer rather then a plumber, anyway always worth watching!

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼…..

@thomascoyne157 11 ай бұрын

I thought you had open a veg stall you had that many leaks😂😂😂 nice work in the end 👍👍get a good glow in the dark pen/makers and put a dot after you press them 👍👍👍ps are you going to video that new digital shower 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Hahaha….. very good… As soon as I get to fit one I will be👍🏼👍🏼

@danielmason7611 5 ай бұрын

I’ve done this a few times, I’ve been told by a fellow worker that it’s best to put a cross in pen on them so it’s viable to see what you have and haven’t pressed

@MJTiffPlumbing 5 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@getbry7452 11 ай бұрын

Nice one, mate 👏 Glad you got it sorted 💦 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy

@russellthomas9391 9 ай бұрын

Easy after the event but perhaps fit some full bore isolation valves at the beginning .. easier if you have no one to turn the stopcock on for you . Plus if the customer is home they have their water back on whilst you do the work . Good video on press fit as I’m considering getting one - Thanks

@MJTiffPlumbing 9 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@user-zz8it3it5b 11 ай бұрын

If you do the press courses they tell you to mark the depth and then mark every fitting with your initials or an x for this reason so you don’t miss any….I I’ve done thousands of various sizes joints and have had ones marked and still not pressed so it’s easily done when busy either way. I had 3 67mm tees fresh out the box with no rubbers in but that was much easier to spot😂😂 Keep up the great work you’ll get used to press it’s the future 😂

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼 Thanks buddy 👍🏼

@jupooh62 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your honesty

@MJTiffPlumbing 6 ай бұрын

You are welcome buddy

@Stefan_Kawalec 10 ай бұрын

Whenever there's a leak on any type of pressed fittings with 0-rings that were not pressed properly, always check 0-rings before installing them again. It's a quite common thing that these little rubber buggers get washed away by the water pressure. Otherwise it's a great , infallible system. You could also try marking pressed fittings with a marker. One press, one marking. It may seem excessive, but the extra time you spend marking pays for itself. One error with a T-fitting and you're loosing a lot of money.

@seanfitzgibbon40 11 ай бұрын

Love the honesty mate.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

@samuelhorowitz5029PLUMBCRAZY 10 ай бұрын

And we push the fitting until it bottoms out and we .are a mark on the pipe. That way, if the fitting touches the line, we know the pipe is all the way in thinking. But you lost the O ring.. it takes a few times to get the hang of it. But once you get it, it goes much better!!!

@MJTiffPlumbing 10 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

@kevinisaac9139 11 ай бұрын

Well done for being up front mark I had a 22mm lever valve blow off on me when working on a unvented cylinder though it wasn’t leaking before it hd paste on it once I removed the pipe on the other end it went I was on my own had to refit it live I got slightly wet 😩

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Keeps you on your toes 🤣👍🏼

@jplester9719 11 ай бұрын

gave me anxiety watching that water shoot out the pipe, we've all been there before its not so bad if it's on the ground floor.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

And me editing it🤣🤣

@JayGasEssex 11 ай бұрын

after pressing, mark the pipe next to fitting with an "X" with a sharpie

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

👍🏼

@painterman8863 11 ай бұрын

I would have been running around like a headless chicken 🐔 mate. In all the time I have been watching you, that's the only time I have seen something like this. So that's not bad.👍 May be mark each one with a pen when you crimp. Might be a pain ,but it must be hard to remember what you have done or not.

@MJTiffPlumbing 11 ай бұрын

Certainly kept me on my toes…🤣🤣