UPDATE: As of writing this, MultiVersus has just released their big mid-season patch. It didn't address every criticism in the video by any means, but credit where it's due, a lot of big stuff was changed. I've outlined the changes relevant to this video below; this will likely be the final time I update this pinned comment. -Input buffer customization returned -Swapping side/neutral attacks returned -Parry mashing to escape slightly suboptimal combos has been addressed -Many infinites have been removed -It turned out that many "hitbox issues" were actually because of a bug where attacks that applied certain status effects and hitboxes on the same frame would ignore the hitbox, this has been addressed -They also fixed a number of hitboxes -The City of Townsville is a bit less obtrusive -Significant character updates -Wonder Woman's dair animation was altered to imply less of a lingering hitbox -"Zoinks" is now spelled correctly *Main channel:* kzfaq.info *Twitter:* twitter.com/MrMockRock *Patreon:* www.patreon.com/mockrock *Twitch:* www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch *Teespring:* teespring.com/stores/mockrock

Considering this game is licensed by Warner Bros, its clear that the predatory monetization is a result of corporate meddling to try and squeeze as much money out of this as possible, to the detriment of the game itself.

It's nice to have someone talk about the game Objectively with praise For the stuff that's done right and pointing out the stuff it does wrong. Most people on the Internet just say it's bad or it's really good. Nice to have a discussion

"maybe its sheer unabashed greed. i couldn't really tell you." Yes. yes you can. you pretty much already did. Don't hold your punches. its warner bros, they have a track record.

MockRock is so funny because he's got the most thoughtful platform fighter analysis in the business, but then all his favourite moves are swinging the big sword.

yk I wish Multiversus did some of the stuff Ultimate did with 1v1 specific things, like shrinking characters down or speeding the game up.

37:20 oh god it’s Olimar. Everyone in Multiverses has the same UI issues as Olimar. It’s a cast of Olimars

I think the discussion around speed is interesting because it reveals why different people play platform fighters. Moky had a really good video on what he (and a lot of Melee players) appreciate the most about Melee in particular, and that's the two pronged approach of learning and implementing. The art of wave dashing is on its own a skill, but implementing it properly is in itself something that needs practice, and in that sense, it's very clear to see how much you've improved from before, and for a really long time, too. That kind of two-pronged depth, though, also inherently comes with a wall that a lot of players, by default, aren't willing to even attempt to break down, which hampers accessibility, and as someone with a deep love for video game history and not so much for platform fighter mechanics in general, I definitely prefer Ultimate. I think a lot of people struggle with communicating what about a given game is appealing to them, maybe they don't know themselves, and so they boil it own to "high speed = more fun." This has particularly soured Multiversus because a lot of things are SO different, and a lot of what was appealing to certain players IS indeed gone, but it calls itself the same game. I would feel lost for words too, to be honest. It's a shame, too, because this game has some of my favorite character designs ever in a platform fighter, excluding the cooldown and meter overuse on some. Superman, Gizmo, and the Iron Giant are some of the most fun picks in Platform fighter history for me, and seeing the reception and online community be slowly decayed as you mentioned over these past two weeks makes me scared for the future, and for many, this game has betrayed them twice too many times anyways. Anyway, great review.

This is easily the most thorough and complete feeling take on this game I’ve seen. I’m surprised this isn’t a main channel video.

30 frames input buffer is absolutely wild

I’ve wanted no platform fighter to succeed more than Multiversus, but I don’t think the game is in a sustainable state in the slightest. In both gameplay, business practices.

I know it's not really what you're trying to do here, but when talking about moveset creativity, I feel like Finn needs to be mentioned. I think he truly is the ganondorf of Multiversus. Every other character's movesets are loaded with references, but Finn, who has ten seasons of potential moves, gets a mountain of basic sword swings, uninspired specials, and an item shop gimmick plagiarized from Rivals' Shovel Knight with almost no relationship to his series.

You have no idea how good it feels to have a review that doesn’t tear the game to shreds (like the MultiVersus subreddit does) and doesn’t overly praise it either. It’s been so much fun for me so far, but the amount of issues sometimes makes me want to pull my own hair out.

my biggest issue with multiversus is the art style. everything looks so corporate and clean and its just not very fun to look at. every character looks like a plastic action figure. i know that 3D is a lot easier to work with for this kind of game, especially with how many skins are in it, but part of me wishes they went with a 2D cartoonish aesthetic. with all the looney toons, scooby doo, and adventure time characters, so much of the cast are from cartoons and would look better in 2D anyway. even the DC character designs are based of their cartoon appearances rather than live action. and if animating every character by hand in 2D would be too much work (which is totally fair), they could have gone for a 3D cel shaded look like the guilty gear series which mimics more traditional animation

As a Multiversus content creator I can't glaze this video enough. An absolutely perfect review of the current game systems and flaws. Thank you for making such a good and constructive video for the devs to look into!

At 6:50 Tbh, this is an absolutely wild hot take I have, but just removing crouching entirely would solve this issue, especially since there is no point to crouching in a game where there is no difference in highs and lows like a traditional fighter

11:55 Speaking of that. Something noone ever talks about, at least in spanish, the game is fully translated. That is text AND dub. And i dont doubt they did the same for other languages, either.

With banana guard ive seen a lot of comparisons to piranaha plant, being a weird pick from a series that people want to see different characters from. But the thing here is that plant is actually more of a love letter to the wide variety of piranha plant enemies in the mario games, and banana guard is a character with a spear. There were a ton of things they couldve done with this guy but they didn't, so it just comes across as lazy.

This kind of video is honestly so helpful to the Multiverse discussion which has mostly become stale and black and white, at least online, with people either arguing that it's certain aspects such as 'Slow gameplay" and "Broken Combo's" are defining of the game's quality and the other side on the backfoot constantly trying to deny the problems that people bring up. I have honestly learned so much more about the game from this video.

I don't like the way the devs look at balancing the game. They prioritize nerfing characters (even the bad ones) and adding cooldowns to moves instead of giving love to the the ones who really need it, like Velma, Lebron, Jake, Garnet... Not a good incentive to spend money on new characters

My biggest issue is how much overlap the player models have during combo strings- its like they dont exist on the same plane but are still fighting each other, like stickers on top of each other 🤦🏾‍♂️

It truly feels like warmer brothers made them release early on top of execs demanding they make the store more like fortnite

I’m so glad to hear someone else talk crap about the city of Townsville. The first time I played on that stage I was like I never wanna play on this stage ever again.

This game looks like a DLC simulator with a fighting game side mode

6:48 I feel like such an idiot. I’ve spent YEARS dropping punishes and dying to up smashes because my character was standing in place and crouching like an idiot instead of dropping through platforms to hit aerials, and I had no idea how to differentiate the inputs. It actually got so bad that for the entirety of ultimate’s lifespan, I played on FD online because I considered platforms to be just as obnoxious hazards to move around as on any normal stage. It wasn’t until you made your video on final destination that I realized why I thought Samus was so toxic and give plats another try. I used to GROAN every time I loaded a match into battlefield.

25:00 Having never played Multiversus, I had to watch earlier clips in the video multiple times to figure out that Jason’s mist teleport was doing damage, because I couldn’t figure out what was hitting opponents. I eventually figured it must be like, a turning shoulder bash or something, but I really didn’t get that it’s “just like that” until you confirmed it later here

Was hoping the patch would get you to address the patch culture. Back in the beta it was my personal biggest gripe with the game and with some of the recent patch notes it seems like it will still be a problem moving forward. The amount of changing attacks by one or two percent is lame as hell and feels like changing something to say something changed. Bigger deal changes feel very reactionary. Before there was no point in finding anything cool a character could do because it was usually gone by next week. Hard to gage now that it feels like every good character just has TODs now but things like WW whip changes and removing iron giant show shortsighted balance decisions that happen to often that I don't find fun. I get people not bringing up patches because that involves following for an extended time but it does feel like it hurts the ongoing playerbase more than they notice.

I agree with basically every sentiment expressed here. I main black adam because his kit is extremely unique and he’s fun to play. The other night, I found another black Adam player and we played 20 games, super back and forth and it was genuinely the most fun I’ve had in a platform fighter. But yeah current build is absolutely live beta 2.

Can't wait for MockRock's "Best of Every Move in MultiVersus" 😂

18:20. This is something super missed by a lot of casuals consumers of fighting games actually miss when discussing fighting games.

Even though you say the arguments against the slowing down of the game aren't very substantiated, I 100% understand where they're coming from. It's like going from 150 cc back to 50 cc in mario kart, it feels so jarring. But if the new version is better then it's worth getting used to it.

I very rarely comment on videos, but wow. What an incredibly detailed and insightful presentation you shared with us. Thank you very much for your high level and rational unbiased analysis. You cleared up a bunch of questions I had about the development side in particular.

I haven't played it yet, but just looking at the footage it feels as if its played in slow motion... Watching the video at 1.25x speed feels more natural, as if that's what the game _should_ play like.

7:00 coming from smash ultimate, where falling through platforms is inconsistent even after years of playing, i love the down + jump input in Multiversus. Its extremely consistent and not clunky after a few mins of practice

Im glad you called out the overuse of cooldowns. At the very least, cooldowns should fill faster if you hit the opponent.

the biggest benefit multiversus has at the moment is the simple fact that it is a live service game, because of that the game is going to be constantly updated and worked on so it in turn rewards those who stuck with the game without having to deter new/returning players, the game will get better over time but at the moment the game is in a launch overwatch 2 state and that sucks but it's going to get better and the devs have been making constant efforts to stay true to their name, even in spite of what WB does.

Why did they rush the re-release? Because they had already promised to re-release it in the first half of the year, so they had to. And considering that they were doing weird advertising before the game came back out, Warner clearly expected them to do so earlier than this.

I bought a bugs skin and then it allowed me to be able to buy me a new bugs skin lmao insane.

glad to see you got ike fair back, and now i understand why you had so many wonder woman clips LOL

I'm still not happy that this game took the route of a free 2 play game, because now I have to grind to unlock characters. I know I gotta pay money to play other platform fighters but at least in those games I have a full roster and alternate costumes. This was a disappointment for me personally, maybe future updates will make this game a better product. Great video on this topic 👏

I like the way you switch between giving the game its dues while also pointing out the littler details that can use work, like how long it takes after you die that the opponent can move freely and taunt you. The way I see MVS is it's a game does miss the bullseye on a lot of its decisions, but at its core it still has the makings of a good game. The amount of love you can find despite humble beginnings, is there even with its short comings. The devs have been a lot more receptive this time around with weekly patches and I hope they can see this video to continue improve the points you mentioned. To make MVS from "When you have that good match" to "I'm often having that good match". I still really enjoy this game and I want to see it thrive even with a rough start. It truly holds something that no other plat-fighter has provided with its ingenuity and character design.

I feel like the only people who are going to understand just how bad the networking issues are, are the crossplay friends, where 1 has an xbox or ps5, and the other has a pc. On my mother, me and my friend spent 20 minutes just trying to get 1 game where they didnt get kicked, and it only happened 1 time, every other time they were kicked for connection issues

Congratulations to Multiversus for releasing their Beta in 2024 😊

Absolutely bar none the best review of MVS on KZfaq. MockRock doesn't just point out obvious, he legit talks about the both pros & cons in great detail.

This is probably the best summary of Multiversus I've seen on the internet, in terms of highlighting its negatives *and* positives. Multiversus is a game I really *want* to love, and I am able to squeeze a good amount of fun out of it, but it's hard to ignore a lot of the problems stacked against it, as you've brought up. It's a terrible combination of Player First Games' clear inexperience as a newly formed studio (though to be fair, the fact that they're very attentive to fan feedback does help cut them some slack) and Warner Bros' absolute heartlessness in terms of game publishing (a problem that isn't even exclusive to Multiversus *coughSuicideSquadcough*) that puts this game in a very rough position to defend. At its core, there is a very solid and enjoyable game to be had here. It just depends on if you're able to dig deep enough through the intrusive elements to get to it. Also I find it funny you give the Townsville stage so much flack, because it's actually my favorite stage in the game so far lol It feels the most like a Smash Bros stage and the ongoing commentary by Mojo Jojo is too charming to dislike, at least to me.

I should really be getting to sleep, so I’ll try to be brief. Thank you for this video. As always, your analytical insights are a breath of fresh air compared to the New York Drive-Byes of “fix your game” and “your main is trash” that I see on Discord. I promised myself I’d only comment on one topic, and I’ve chosen your critique on the team-exclusive signature perks. This was a problem I had with the game since the beta, but going off of the rebuild’s potential development history, expecting new ones sounded like too much in hindsight. I found it funny when you asked why some characters have two signatures while others get three. When you followed it up by using Arya as an example of someone with one universal signature and one team-exclusive, that was good, but I was also surprised because LeBron has always been the biggest offender to me. He has three, but TWO of them are team exclusive, and what does the only 1v1 compatible perk do? It makes the basketball explode if it hits from a long distance. I’ve only ever seen this in two lights. It’s either underwhelming, or I just never see it happen at all.

I would have never guessed ranked mode would still be coming soon after the game came back

An overridable buffer or even a buffer only when an input is held may be preferable to just a shorter buffer window.

Multiversus biggest issue is, and has always been, optics. The game looks AWFUL. Even if it's a good game, it just has this appearance to it that implies a sort of like, anti-climax. As you said, a lot of kill moves seem to get their 'power' out of nowhere, Garnet has an attack where she slams with her gauntlets fused into a giant club, but it's weaker than he throwing a fairly weak-looking punch. Banana guard has a move where he runs forwards with his spear out, and it'll practically instakill at any percent above 100, it's just so strange. I think smoothing out the VFX can help a lot with that -- I could buy Jason's mist hurting you if it did like a slash vfx when it showed up, I could understand Garnet's neutral charge attack being more powerful if it had some kind of heavy impact effect, I could even understand things like joker's balloon if it inflated to a gigantic size for a brief moment then shrunk down to its regular size afterwards. The game lacking these things makes it feel, in essence, cheap? Compare this to smash bros, and it's easier to see what I mean. When Byleth does basic sword swings that aren't expected to kill, they have a swoosh effect, but it's very light and diminished, compare that to their axe attacks, and you can see the 'severity' of the vfx increase in proportion to the danger of the move. Another good example of this is Hero, where a lot of their sword slashes leave behind a thick trail because they're very powerful, but his smash attacks in specific often will have a sharper glare, a flash of light, or a similar effect to indicate the potential for immense strength. When you see a move kill that looks as though it has a weak animation, it often leads to a feeling of 'oh, it didn't look that strong.' Which can, over time if it repeatedly happens, morph into a feeling of 'Dude, did they just not have the budget to make the animations better?' Or something similar. It's a drop in the bucket compared to all of the other optics issues the game has, but I think that an overhaul of a lot of the VFX is probably due, hopefully sooner rather than later while the game still has public momentum.

Finally! I was a player in the beta and excited for the relaunch, but coming out of a work day to the discourse on launch… all of the conversation online felt so full of conflicting information and especially vitriol. While I know I should form my own opinions, I also didn’t want to reinvest in a game that it’s playerbase hated, casual or hardcore. This was a much more grounded take of all the information I feel I could want on the game’s state, and I feel Much better considering giving it another try at some point in the future. Hopefully the near future, once some of the issues are addressed.

As a Marvin main, dash attacking is the most awkward thing ever because he has a weird run and he randomly stops, halts all momentum, attacks, and then halts all momentum again. It’s so annoying to not be able to chose to toward tilt and dash attack.

Depending on how this and other Multiversus videos perform (and I guess how the game's overall reception and meta performs), would we start seeing stuff like tier lists and other discussion videos in a similar likeness to what you did for Smash? Despite not personally having any personal investment in the game, I still really enjoyed this video and would like to see more.

This is a really great video that intricately explains all of my feelings and more than I couldn’t accurately verbalize. I disagree a bit about cooldowns being a problem and having too many status effects (it would take a lot for me to say why but generally it comes down to “I understand something bad is going to happen if I allow them to keep doing whatever it is that they’re doing”). I hope the devs watch it because this game, despite some quite frequent frustration with it, is something I willingly come back to without even having missions to do. I think it’s got a better potential roster than even Smash and the one they have right now is already great. They have almost unlimited options and who knows they might even make deals for properties they don’t own at some point. Even though I love a lot of the characters it was Jason, who I have watched zero movies of, that really excited me about the possibilities and I’m quite hopeful for the future because I want to be playing it for a long time.

The speed argument makes more sense from an audience perspective. It’s engaging and more thrilling to watch gameplay that’s rewarded with better response time. Same goes for the player. At a certain point in the slowness of the game can become a turn based rpg.

The atrocious monetization, FOMO, and input buffering killed this game for me. I didn't even mind some of the game's other issues, but those 3 killed it.

As a beta player who felt like Hungrybox when it came to the expressing how I felt with the full release of the game, it was like you pulled the words straight out of my mouth. I appreciate how considerate you were for each argument, great video!

29:50 eight seconds!? keep in mind this is the same amount of time that zato loses eddie for. Zato gets punished 8 seconds for having the puppet out long, doing lots of special moves, and mismanaging a meter. With this change Wonder Woman loses a move for pressing side+B even if they really wanted the cooldown system, they could’ve at least used shorter timers

6:56 things like this also make things like dash attacks really uncomfortable too because if you do them too fast then you can accidentally go into a jab which can be really bad for a follow up after another move, sometimes the right stick as jab can flick your hits in the other direction too so I just had to change it for more consistency

This is a beautifully created and thought out video! I agree with most everything you said and would hope a dev or someone on the team would see. Amazing video!

Damn you made this game look kinda fun with some of those combos, I’ll have to give it another shot

I'm happy they gave us dpad support for controllers I started playing brawl on my wii, so I really missed it in future smash games

My favorite thing about jason is his wall jump sound effect that's just such a good detail

I actually like the idea of slowing this game down. Beta was VERY fun but it was kinda of a mindless after a while. Giving the game a slower pace can make decision making more interesting and prominent strategies of spamming projectiles and running can also be rebalanced in a better way. Really seems healthier for the game as a whole. Everything else tho, really dummed me down. Not being able to change my controls how i want. Having options removed felt terrible and im SPECIALLY concerned with the patches of this game The Beta was full of character assassinations or updates that just made then feel so different. And into the full game, a lot of really important character mechanics were also messed with. Now with the first patches already messing with stuff like WWs whip having a cooldown again, even after "full release" its really hard to invest time into a game where idk if my character will exist next week Smash patches would change the characters place in the meta, but never really changed completely the characters gameplay or messed with their most important tools in an unnatural way. But multiversus does not care, and it really makes me dont want to invest in it. Yes, a lot of Mobas, Hero Shooters, etc. Do reworks. Characters get changed and reworked and if you dont like, change characters. But on Fighting Games that characters tools are so much more decisive on how you play the game that it seems really harst to be doing these MAJOR changes willy-nilly

6:06 i only just now realized that dwayne johnson is the heavy weapons guy

probably the best video about post-launch MV I've seen to date. comprehensive and very fair about all the subject matter presented. interesting to think in today's landscape this information may no longer be accurate someday after months of patches, but in my opinion that makes keeping the record all the more important - people should be able to see evidence of what any product like this was once like. I was an avid beta player and while I did learn to adjust to and somewhat enjoy the new live version (WW main in beta and geez, they really made her a lot stronger huh!), I ended up deciding to drop it because of the point you made near the beginning. I was promised one thing and given something else. that something else isn't bad on its own merits, but it's also not what I wanted. that's already a bit of a disappointment, and adding on all the other uh... questionable choices they made in the grand scheme of this relaunch, I decided I'd rather step back, wait, and see what develops (which is its own kind of disaster in a game this FOMO-driven, but I'll have to deal with that only IF I ever pick it back up again, lol) this game was the most excited I'd ever been about a platfighter that wasn't Smash. it was so much more fun than I expected when I tried the beta completely on a whim. I just hope it doesn't end up nothing more than some memories and a bunch of youtube essays about questionable decisions and wasted potential.

Great video. I was wondering if I should try this game, but I think I'll probably hold off until it's more polished

You definitely earned my Sub though that that button every character in Multiverse and the beta had a move, that was great, Tom’s up rocket Velma’s microphone, shaggy sidekick, which is still great bugs is up there which is still impactful that thing you know

I think a sufficient balance for the lasso cooldown would be for it to have a reduced cooldown on whiff (similar to batarang) or at least let players choose to grapple opponents by holding the input with a lasso perk equipped to allow more fluid play.

Most fair review I've seen. Great stuff

Something I wish they'd implement is local multiplayer in Rifts and online 2v2

Great video! All that stuff with the UI is so true. Especially the build number on the side, why aren't more people mentioning how weird that is?!? And I completely agree with WW's lasso cooldown. Removing it made me excited to try her, but reimplementing it has completely killed that desire.

Im not playing this game until tapping A gets me a goddamn jab

this games gonna be insane in like 10 months

This is subjective, but the main issue I had with the beta, and what was made infinitely worse in the live release was how every character just felt super floaty and lacking in any real impact, it just looks like they're feigning a punch, and the enemy is pretending to be hit

I do feel like this version of Multiversus is like a "secret beta" of the Unreal 5 version of the game, and they're scrambling to make it feature complete before the game bleeds too many players for it to continue existing. It's very fun to play and I like it a lot, so hopefully PFG can scramble this egg before it goes bad.

Yk i thought i was missing a lot of attacks i shouldve hit with jason. And this dudes a damn pinata

This is honestly the most honest and objective review I’ve seen about the game (other than the cooldowns thing it’s 7 seconds dude 😅)

30:00 Imo, depending on the implementation cooldowns can be interesting. I'd say Garnet's side b and up b are the best examples. The move is used, then put on a cooldown but the cooldown *doesn't stop you from using the move*, simply changes the move, with cooldown side b being a combo move, and cooldown up b being a very strong kill move. I wish more characters were like this.

Never ever played a fighting game led alone platform types so MultiVersus is my first and it was so easy to get into and understand compared to literally every other fighting game and I love it.

Hey MockRock, I love your videos. I've watched the BoTW one several times, and I was wondering if you had plans for a totk one of similar length? I'd love to hear your opinions

Really great video. Especially for a Wonder Woman main. 1v1 has gotten very stale for me, I keep seeing the same four characters in rotation that I just decided to stop focusing it, so balance patches can't come sooner. I really hope this game doesn't fail, it has a lot of love put into it with the characters, voices, and other details that pay nicely done homages to their series. Also I want to be able to play a platform fighter on my PC with a good sized fanbase, tired of Smash being the only dominate platform fighter.

no toast back really gets me =D i wait after a game if someone toasts me but sometime i get the message late and i feel bad lol

22:29 I’m a casual fan, so idk how which may affect balance, but perhaps a mechanic that rewards players for successfully hitting a dodge-cancelled attack, such as one bar of the dodge meter being recovered instantly if the attack hits, would alleviate some of these issues

In response to Nakat's video, which I did watch: tt is true that a slower game moves the emphasis to punishes rather than spamming random moves. However, the game's not yet balanced for that kind of gameplay. Hurt/hitboxes are inconsistent, disjoints are unpunishable, plenty of characters get free super armor, projectils can cover for punishes and when playing teams two players can simply cover every option, not to mention the input buffer alone makes playing like this frustrating and volatile, it's like the characters are constantly playing catch-up with the player's reactions.

Townsville isn’t just in singles it’s legal in doubles top Also there’s not enough vanilla stages with no hazards instead we have things like tomadachi life 3 floors and king of fighters breakable walls

On the game speed thing, you make a pretty definitive statement that a slower game speed makes the game more accessible for new people getting into it. But why are we so certain of this? Do we know if casuals actually care about this? What evidence do we have that suggests that? Let's look at Smash bros and the history it has had with game speed. Brawl was derided by the hardcore fandom for its slow speed, but sold more than Melee, a much faster game. Good baseline to set that suggests some truth in the overall thesis. Sm4sh releases and is noticeably faster than Brawl, and the series takes a sales plunge, again consistent with the statement. But then Ultimate comes out and blows both WAY out of the water in terms of sales despite having a speed comparable to Melee (at least more so than Brawl and Sm4sh), how does that work? We can't just blame this on a bigger console install base either, since the Wii and Switch have *roughly* comparable unit sales and Ultimate doubled Brawl's sales before the Switch overtook the Wii in unit sales. There is a very large number of people who started playing Smash with Ultimate, most of whom are statistically likely to be casuals, and did so without much trouble. Now let's ask some hypothetical questions: Would Brawl have sold any worse if the speed was comparable to Melee? Personally, I don't think so. Would Sm4sh on Wii U have sold any better if it was slower-paced on the level of Brawl? Again, I just don't see it. Why did Ultimate sell so much better than Brawl despite being so much faster-paced? Because factoring game speed into the matter of selling a game... doesn't make sense in my opinion. Would Smash Bros. Ultimate have sold better if it slowed the game down? Answer: it already sold 34 million copies and is in the top 20 best-selling games ever. I don't think it matters much at this point. If the logic is that "Slower games are more accessible, thus more people play them" then there's very little evidence that actually suggests this. If there is a portion of casuals who genuinely base their decision to play on game speed, I think it is very minor, if not nearly non-existent, in the grand scheme of things. Anyway let's talk about button mashing. Casuals (in the way I would define them) don't know the intricacies of input and recovery frames. Think of a casual player mashing the one button whose function they understand. For example: a person pressing the light punch button in Street Fighter while getting up from a knockdown, why does this happen? It's essentially a chain of logic that goes "I want to do this thing with this button - Something is preventing me from doing so - I will keep pressing the input so I can do the thing I want to as soon as possible" And in that way, is speeding up the game, making a games' response to player input more immediate, not a way to make it more accessible? Is there not less one needs to overcome in order to do what they want to do with a faster game speed?

Ty for the video. Very informing.

I actually really enjoy the slower pace of the game, so far that my favourite fighters are the slower ‘control mage’ types 🤷🏽 this game has a tonne of problems that need fixing but I’m really enjoying the gameplay at least

The part about thanklessly spending forever basically rebuilding the game reminds me of friday night funkin. The team spent a lot of time between the week 7 update back from 2021 and now rebuilding basically the whole game's code and file structure in order to have a more solid foundation to build off of, on top of also hiring more people, managing the production and shipment of the kickstarter stuff, and making the aftual new content. Despite stating that several times people were still very upset at how long the update was taking, though now that it's out things seem to be going a lot more smoothly

32:08 Isn’t this just Brawl Meta Knight Mach Tornado? Which was broken, yes, but it was mostly a balancing problem rather than a fundamental one.

I swear barely anybody has touched up upon the platforms thank you! That one treehouse map is just awful to get through to the bottom.

As an open beta player who has been playing the hell out of relaunch, all of the points here are very valid. You covered a lot of areas of the game in this video and if I had to send someone a review for this game it would be this one As was already said, but is a an epitomized voucher for the games state, this game was unfortunately rushed and now they are stuck releasing new cosmetics for the big corpa side it’s going to take awhile to fix it all, but they’ve been hauling ass to fix and add to everything. I recommend everyone who wants to love this game to keep an eye on it, as I have faith they’ll get there eventually.

Don’t forget gens you earn are distributed in loot boxes

One of the main problems I've had with Multiversus is when you jump into the top blast zone, you shouldn't be killed unless you're hit in/into it. Smash and Rivals both do this, and it seems like it'd be relatively easy to add.

for me honestly the thing that turned me off of this game wasn't speed (I actually really like it) or the monetization/lack of free characters but it was the perks. I love that kind of system in other types of games and I think custom moves are super cool and underutilized but the fact you have to literally sit your ass down and read a wiki just to understand what vague symbols mean a 10% increase to whatever or what you're gonna have to look out for in a fight... and the fact in doubles you have to worry about 4 people's perks... and the fact that everyone gets 4 of them ... like I'm sorry but that's not what I come to this genre for. I specifically like platform fighters because their simplicity and consistency gives you so much freedom to figure stuff out in the moment. I don't want to have to devote hours of study like I do in something like KOF or Tekken or a MOBA. It's really just not for me and I wish there was a mode where you they didn't exist

The only major problem I see in the rifts is the, “free your ally task”, in the rifts. You’d think that it would be a double battle, BUT NOOO, you have to have a friend play with you, which is an optional task to do, for EVERY MISSION. And it especially sucks when you are so close to getting to the next level, one of to be specific, and it’s just a PAIIIN.

As someonewho barely got to play the beta (Asian servers were got gutted) I do wish that the characters were a little smaller, not to the size of Beta but as of now the stages feel smaller than the characters. As for the currency, I don't have as much of a problem with it because I've been desensetized to grinding for characters but sheesh. I hope that they streamline the currency by the end of season 1, or maybe before the end of season 2 if we get there

I would change Taz up b to be a hit grab. He lunges upward or forward depending on how you angle it, and if he connects then he absorbs you into the ball of attack for a little bit and then spits you our

3:41 What’s that controller? I never saw that one before, it looks good

Wish they tried to do more of the PSAS stage design they seem to have dabbled a bit in here where the stages are crossovers as well