let’s be honest we’re all buying this because the original games are bollcoks expensive so it’s the only real way to play them now

All I know is that there's been misinformation about the requirement of a VGA / 31khz monitor to play Atomiswave light gun conversions since before they started getting released..and it still continues, unfortunately.

@@Fattydeposit So 480i is 15khz and 480p is 31khz?

I wonder if they would still work if you converted vga video to component.

You would likely be pleased with any of the ODE options. What the MODE has an advantage of compared to all of the others is the ability to use SSD hard drive and hold as many games as you want. SD Cards are limited by size and if you want a big one (still too small to hold every game) it costs more than a hard drive.

I had a MODE installed on my Saturn and ended up moving it to a spare Dreamcast. The Fenrir is more than enough and you can get 512GB SD cards cheaply (around $50) if you keep an eye on Amazon sales, which is enough to hold the entire Saturn library.

@@RetrOrigin 512gb is not enough to hold the entire saturn library, unless you leave out many Japanese exclusives. There is also hacks and translations and the full USA library. What you are doing is cherry picking, not using a full library like some people prefer. You should also be using SanDisk SD Cards, just for anyone wondering.

@@StarshipGhost I only left out most of the PAL games that are for the most part identical to their US or Japanese ounterparts (sans the lower refresh rate), so it technically may not be a full library, but I don't see the point in keeping those. I kept all the japanese adventure games for the heck of it. The card I use is GigaStone, and it works perfectly fine not only on my Fenrir, but I also had one on my PSIO prior to getting an XStation and had tested it with no problems on my USBGDROM using and SD to USB card reader adapter. so there's absolutely no need to stick to SanDisk.

@@StarshipGhost The transfer rates of all these old consoles are pathetic. As long as the card is compatible, there's no real point in getting more expensive brands. Buying brand names doesn't mean you have high standards, it just means you go with the flow and don't bother doing actual research on how memory chips function and how they are manufactured. Get off your high horse.

That the fault of the EU not Terraonion.

@@lukasperuzovic1429 They moved from Spain to Andorra do skip taxes. How’s that, Europe’s fault?

It's your government, not mine, not theirs. If I was them, I would move to Andorra too.

@@lukasperuzovic1429 doesn’t change the fact that they would shift more units if people could get it for less

I don't know what you talking about. I got no issues in the US getting a Mode from Andorra to here. And it shipped faster than most companies ship here in the US.

Just got a GCLoader, so I hope it’s good! :-D I’m just happy to see some love for the GameCube these last few years. Haven’t even heard of SD2SP2 though.

@@nickwallette6201 It's basically a mod-free way to do what the GCLoader does. Just need a way to launch Swiss to use it.

@@smashpro1 Only works in original model Gamecubes though Dol-001 with a serial port 2. Sadly I had a later model Dol-101 that removed the serial port 2. I'm still able to load of an sd card reader in the second memory card slot using a hacked game save at least

@@Danbo22987 I had a later model DOL-001 with a door for the SP2 port, so I bought the SD2SP2. I found out that my old Cube didn't have that SP2 port! Ended up buying another DOL-001 on eBay that had it for sure. If you guys look at GameCubes, make sure to check to see if that port is actually there. Just being DOL-001 is not a guarantee that the port is still there.

I think the xstation might be the best bet still

I still prefer my xstation

@@nunyabusiness69 why

I'd do a MODE for the Dreamcast and Saturn, and XStation for the PS1.

Gdemu for Dreamcast*

I use a Sandisk SSD here, no problems.

Getting the MODE for the Saturn is a no brainer. With disc rot becoming a real thing, it is just asinine to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars for cd's. I absolutely LOVE the MODE for the Saturn, I finally can play all of the ridiculously overpriced games like most of the shmups and stuff like Elevator Action Returns.

@@shivasthong4924 And a SSD cheaper than a SD card at the same capacity

@@shivasthong4924 I meant both types of storage made by samsung. Sorry if grammar was ambiguous

@@lukasperuzovic1429 I went with the sd card because I was a little worried about heat generation because the console has no active fans, but I've not heard of anyone having issues so it seems I was overly cautious

There are currently 24 games you can easily get from the same forum. Just try them all.

Could not not agree more, plus, it costs a fortune.

it simplifies the stock at the sellers end. Plus before for the Saturn the same seller sold two very different ODEs (Phobe and Rhea) for different revisions of the Saturn) The Mode don't care what the hardware version is for the Saturn, and supports 2 versions of the Dreamcast

These solutions are FPGA based and unfortunately FPGA’s are quite expensive. They probably couldn’t cut costs by much even if they only supported 1 system

Benefit to me us using a much cheaper HDD or SSD over a SD card at the 500 Gb to 1TB range

@@lukasperuzovic1429 the two main benefits to the end user are storage options and a slightly better UI than other solutions. besides that, not much gained for the extra cost involved in this being multi-system.

100% i love it^^

It’s cool for 1 and 2 and completely unnecessary for shenmue 3

I only played it in Japanese so it never felt cheesy to me

"Years ago I was Chinese" - An actual Shenmue quote

No the offical gdemu is about 130euros the clones are around 50

@@GalironRunner Fair enough but you can't tell the difference between the clones and the original though, they even use the exact same chip!

@@MOLTEN0 sort of the clones 1 will be cheap anything thats $50 to 100 will be a clone more so if more then 1 is available since the guy that makes the real ones only make a few batches a year i believe plus real is at 5.20 so anything 5.5 or 5.15/5.15b are going to be clones though more so if it has a version on the board. Also there is some difference since even if its the same chips you cant update the firmware for some reason though it maybe the 5.15b that is the same chip so many makers of the clones though its hard to tell at times.

Try out Bulk Slash.

@@shivasthong4924 will do, I need to pick up an SSD so I can have a lot more games on there

This is true! Most people forget about the total cost of ownership when you see people crying about the initial cost of entry. At the end of the day MODE has the greatest value considering storage capacity options being equal across the board with ALL ODE's. I'm not one to enjoy curating gymnastics with multiple SD cards. Embrace the digital age :)

It's also usable on 3x as many systems as other devices. You're paying for the skill/knowledge behind it.

@@anthonya.jumelles7103 who cares on how many systems it works on once I have it installed on one. This is a dumb argument.

Okay, I have XStation, PSIO, Fenrir, and the USB-GDROM, and they are all cool, I'm still interested in the MODE, solely because of the hard drive support, which is something that all the other solutions don't offer, except for the USB-GDROM. SD cards are very expensive in bigger sizes and I don't like to fiddle with adding/removing games all the time, so there, a reason from someone who uses those things as well. But yes, it is expensive, hence why I don't have it yet.

@@anthonya.jumelles7103 you can't use it on all of them at the same time so it's pointless.

This is for people with lot of money. I think is pointless at this time,not that i wish not having one but i can equip all these console with a few bucks more

It plays all Dreamcast games and it's very easy to install on that system as well.

And... uh... more

Disc will rot eventually and Drives will wear out.

It's just the way it is unfortunately. If it so concerns you, I recommend buying 4-5 working consoles for every system you want, and hoarding them over decades for when all other disc drives/boards fail over time. Enjoy them with all original parts and discs while you still can.

Oh I know it's an unfortunate necessity as time goes on. The fact that most of the 30 year old floppies I have on the thing still boot is frankly a miracle, and it was important to preserve their data during the short time they have left. Zero regrets (except maybe a superficial bit of brittle-with-age plastic that cracked during the operation). There's just something surreal about holding a working piece of a several-decades-old hardware in your hands that you're replacing with something entirely different.

@@ClockworkBard it's the age old question, when you replace pieces of a boat or a car, is it still the same vehicle? I felt a sense of sadness taking out the disc drives for the Saturn and Dreamcast, but at the same time feeling like I am doing what I can to preserve actually playing the games in the long run. SD cards memory do run out in 10 years I believe, but at least we can keep writing them over and over as a long term solution.

@@quibquatch3975 I feel that. I am both a fan of cars/driving, and videogame collecting, and my view is this: I can either let my console / car wear itself down on its original parts, and have it become unusable at some point... Or I can keep servicing it and choose between replacing any broken parts with OEM equivalents, or, even better, replace old parts with new ones, so that I don't have to worry about parts breaking down again for a very, very long time... I suppose the dilemma is between whether you want a 100% original console that may become unusable, or if you'd rather have something that's 70-80% OEM, but that works almost as if it just came out of the factory... It's a personal choice, but I'd choose the second option, to be honest.

As a kid, I drew on mine with a permanent silver marker. Now it doesn't come off... r/kidsarestupid

@@LEXXIUS I've been told dry erase markers can undo permanent markers.

Or get a GDemu clone for 1/4 of that.

@@Gladson That's what I got for my Dreamcast as well and it's working great!

@@masterlee1988 same here, working like a charm with every game I tested so far

The Dreamcast has the Dreamshell software coupled with an SD card reader that plugs into the rarely-used serial port, but the read rates are nowhere near as good as either an original drive or an ODE. PS1 has the PSIO, but it's limited to earlier console revisions that have an IO port and still requires soldering to install, and on top of that it hasn't seen a firmware update in years.

@hama mudo Ive tried doing that with a PS2 Slim but load times were just a bit too long for my liking. Plus sliding in an SD Card sounds a lot nicer than having a brick sit on top.

Yea a good majority of people are purchasing MODE's for each console. I have no regrets. Best retro gaming investment right now.

@@hyp36rmax Yeah I would say getting Everdrives and ODEs are the best things to get for retro gaming these days. I have them for some of my consoles as well.

It’s really simple since it’s mostly automated. Just decompress by folder, place into system folder and done.

#!/bin/sh For i in .gdi ## apply to all gdi files in folder do name=${i%.*} ## gets name without .gdi mkdir “$name” ## makes folder for each gdi mv “$i” “./${name}/“ ## moves gdi in folder done This is pretty much what I did when doing mine

I personally only put the games I want. No reason to have 600 EA sports games that are basically the same thing on a drive.

@@helgenx 600 EA sports games? No such thing for any platform. Even leaving out all EA Sports games on a PS1 its not going to save you much space compared.

@@StarshipGhost calm down Mr Pedantic, it's obvious what he meant by that was the yearly releases of all the EA sports titles

I agree be costly but most would buy one for each system not continually swap it

@@coreymarch9428 you can buy 3 single system ode's for the price of the mode.

You are suppose to buy one for each system, not swap it.

@@RetroDoneRight No you can't buy 3 for the price of one. You can buy 2, though.... which only support SD Card and is limited by space. Also a large SD Card costs more than a hard drive, which only MODE supports. Are you understanding now? MODE is for people who want more space to hold more games. Also it does have some more features compared to the old ODE options.

I have one in my Saturn, and it's such a pain to get it out that it'll always remain in there. The idea of swapping it into my DC was why I initially bought it, but it's way too cumbersome to do this on a regular basis.

Hey do you know what song plays in the background at 24:33?

@@Sc0ttyz23 nah I dont. It's hard to tell theres just so much music for games.so much greatness. Its prob from a game I've played as and just cant pinpoint

@@Sc0ttyz23 blastwind - saturn

Nostalgia only gets you so far, when older systems are now dying and its impossible to replace the internal components because they are no longer being made, and the original systems all had system locked, encoded disk drives that required the purchaser to send it into the manufacturer to replace these parts.

@@MrHunterseeker I totally get your points and thus the point of this video which is console preservation for long term use, but at least for me and many others it's important to be able to use the original games, not on some SD card. At that point I'd much rather just emulate the games and upscale them on my hacked Switch or even PC using a controller adapter for whichever system, but again that defeats the entire purpose of playing your own games. Personally, I've picked up a few of each console over the years of collecting at many flea markets (especially the disc based consoles) so I have plenty of backups after repeated use on my current systems. Even now in 2021, I still have my original consoles from my childhood working flawlessly, no laser issues or anything so that day still hasn't come where I've needed to replace them. Having a bunch of spares on hand is the solution for me to have continuous nostalgia on original hardware using my own physical collection of games.

@@cencil6497 I would agree, but honestly, when you have discs that refuses to be read along with the laser going bad/dying later on due to how they are used, you are better off with the ODE or another way to play off a hard drive. Like a great example is my OG Xbox. The disc drive on my OG Xbox is so bad that it barely reads discs at all and even if it can read them it can at random just stop reading the disc while playing the game. This is why I have it soft modded and is able to install games on to a hard drive to play them off the hard drive which also gives it faster load times. To me without it I don't know how I would play games on it besides getting a new Xbox which I don't want to do. I got an ODE for my Dreamcast and it's been amazing. Plus my Dreamcast had trouble reading some discs as well, actual GD-ROM discs when a game refuses to get past a load screen. I want to get an ODE for my Saturn, and the one I want doesn't replace the disc drive so it's the best of both worlds. To me ODEs actually extend the life of a console because once that laser has trouble reading discs and dying, that's it, either get it replaced and then it'll have trouble later on since they can only last so long or get a ODE and be at a peace of mind not needing to worry about disc wear, scratched discs over time, laser issues, etc.

I actually never heard of UperGrafx UGX-02 until you mentioned it.

@@masterlee1988 Yeah, and that's why it's so sad to see it get ignored continually even though it has such a uniquely compelling feature (perfect digital video ala Hi-Def NES). GameTechUS actually did a video about UGX-01 back in 2016 but he didn't mention that they planned to update it with an ODE. Good thing, since the UGX-01 needs hardware mods for that (didn't have enough RAM). Ignoring the launch of the UGX-01, it's hard to say which launched first. UGX-02 was supposed to launch in late 2017 but had a last-second delay until early 2018. A few modified/upgraded UGX-01 units with ODE functionality made it out earlier. SSDS³ was supposed to be early 2018 but the launch was scuttled after a few preorders slipped through. It relaunched weeks later, just after the UGX-02.

@@emmettturner9452 Yeah this needs to be known more as that sounds really good!

Yeah they just added support for PS1 recently.

Absolutely nobody. Unless you want to fork out some serious $$ and toss one in all your consoles. Think about the wear and tear caused by swapping it out all the time.

exactly

The point is to buy more than one.

@@StarshipGhost which could be done without the ‘M’ part.

@@knight0fdragon The M stands for Multi, letting you know the same device can be purchased for multiple different consoles. Common sense, use it. How did everyone get so dumb the past 10 years? Nobody is telling you to buy ONE for multiple consoles... genius.

I was interested in a Satiator, because I don't want to lose the ability to run original discs. Then I saw it's price... People are absolutely insane when pricing these items. My Saturn was cheaper than this back in it's day!

No there won't.

Kinda wish I got that one, but I'm very happy with my MODE :D

I got mine

Satiator is also cost more than the Mode and you have to give up your Mpeg card

Also has one of the stupidest names of all time. Satiator.......uuggggh cringe into a black hole

@@quibquatch3975 You are allowed to remain silent if you don't have useful input.

PS3 has been hacked you can run games from a flash drive

@@filipmartinez1162 and internal hard drive but I want this because it unlocks all games not just mostly compatible, I mainly want it for PS2 over PS3, this will work without hacking the console and Sony hopefully won't ban the PS3 if it's done this way since it's not modding the firmware like in the past

Given those measures were triggered by running checksums on the game's own code, ODEs can't and won't trigger any anti-piracy measures.

Honestly, ODEs and soft mods actually extend the life of a console when the laser on the drive has issues. I am facing it right now and one of my consoles is practically unusable due to almost never reading the discs properly and I don't want to have to get the laser replaced or buy another console. Plus original discs can have issues and instead of having to make so many backups of the games I own I would just store them on an SD Card/hard drive and call it a day. I consider these to enhance the retro experience with being able to choose any game you want without disc swapping, relying on a new/used SD card/hard drive instead of a disc drive that will have trouble reading the discs and possibly dying, and usually these ODEs would even have faster load times which comes in handy as long load times are never a good thing.

@@masterlee1988 Nice one for that -you’re absolutely right, I can see how valuable these things can be. And the original silicon is still playing the games which is the most important thing. Glad you found the right solution :)

@@andykara2003 Yeah I have a preference of original hardware and as long as you can still use them with certain things that can either fix or improve on the experience that's fine by my books. They aren't perfect and some things like the disc drive may go wrong with them, but to be able to still use them due to a simple modification that still allow use of the original hardware is what matters the most. Plus more options is a good thing.=O

@@masterlee1988 Absolutely, having thought about it, the most important thing to me is that the original silicone is driving the game. So I agree - the method of supplying the silicone with data is secondary :) As the guys say, the most important thing is to enjoy the game, no matter what route. Sometimes I lose track of that...

YES! I have MODE PSX with PS1 Digital working flawlessly.

[Try4ce] We have those too! They are pretty simple, less overall to talk about. GCLoader will definitely be appearing in Analog Frontiers Part 3 in the coming weeks, but it won't be ABOUT it per se.

I still think GC needs a real ODE solution. GCloader is ok but the speed of the port means laggy cutscene on most of the games. Still useful for GCI for the GBA player software though.

For some reason I was thinking gxloader. GCloader looks neat, did not know it existed

Yea I'd rather have a Saturn specific MODE. Dreamcast sucked, and I want a MODE for PS2 for my PS1 games.

You're gonna love it! Although it's still early with a few quirks, it will get better. XStation and MODE are basically parallel with their achivements and compatiblity.