(Laugh!) Back in the 70s, I worked in the phosphate mines and one of the positions was unloading railroad cars. We had a steel pole about 6 feet long that we used to both unlock and open the hopper, and then swing and slam it shut (we'd get the door swinging, and at the right time bear down on the pole and the door would slam shut and a latch drop into place - sometimes we'd have to pound the latch to make sure it was solidly set). It was unpleasant work, especially when raining because the grating was slippery and we didn't have much room to move - and those doors were heavy! This was a far cry from the way we did it (we also had a small, gas powered half railroad engine, half car to move the cars through the unloading station - not a nice engine like seen here). Having a simple, easy control like that... NICE!
@RokerSMisisipi3 жыл бұрын
That reminded of the scene in the "Kill the Irishman" movie. Tough and dirty work, hats off to all the men who did it
@intermodalman1233 жыл бұрын
We still do it that way at the rock company I work for, actually we have cars that have had an air system like this ripped out to install manual door mechanisms (those are absolutely brutal to open and close). These air systems don't work so well if the unloading pit is smaller than the railcar. One incorrect wiring job on the door controls and you've got quite the mess. I'd assume Florida phosphate mines? What mine? My employer sends me out that way to unload quite often, always a nice breeze flowing through the gypsum stacks
@RedHeart643 жыл бұрын
@@intermodalman123 Swift, back in the 70s. I never experienced that breeze. The areas I worked were hot and humid during the summer - not bad during winter days, but the nights could get uncomfortable. Trying to stay dry was important, as if you got wet you could experience hypothermia in winter, and summer, well, you didn't dry out until you got home. With water pouring down from all areas (rock in the tanks separating out the water and leaks everywhere, plus occasional rain), a rain suit and boots were mandatory and needed.
@Brandonbuilt13 жыл бұрын
Notice how much the car's springs came up. Pretty neat!
@gragor118 жыл бұрын
Seems that one major downside of this method would be the capacity of the conveyor system. Perhaps it doesn't matter at this plant. Interesting system keeping in mind all the caveats listed in the comments below. Thanks for taking the time to film this process and posting it on KZfaq.
@THEATREofPAIN27011 жыл бұрын
Good post. Nice to see some of how it's done as to just seeing them roll thru an area. Liked it.
@rubber2002110 жыл бұрын
Quite the intense operation, thanks for posting.
@ERIE126411 жыл бұрын
There are three pockets or doors in the bottom of the car. Each door has a letter to open the pocket of choice. Not because of material but some times you only want to balance the unloading conveyor or Simply for ease of unloading.You never want to dump 115 tons on an unwarmed system as this creates problems on the belts in the system.
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
@@GWRProductions-kg9pt 😂
@ep616116 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've seen something like this and I found it fascinating. In response to those who say that there is no time savings to this one, I can't help but think about how long it would take to do this by hand..... Maybe as technology progresses and with the "gotta have it now" attitude so prevalent in society, a lot is being taken for granted. Those who feel this way should, perhaps, do it "the old-fashioned way" for awhile so they get an appreciation for what they have and not expect even more time-saving technology that too, will become obsolete because the bar is always being raised.
@RedHeart646 жыл бұрын
Doing it by hand was also rather quick (at least the way we did it)... but very strenuous, uncomfortable, and even dangerous. This took seconds to do... the way we did it took about 30 seconds (closing) for a three door hopper car. Opening was quicker - just flip a latch and the door/hatch would drop open.
@dbdrdbag13 жыл бұрын
This looks like FUN!
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel6 жыл бұрын
Nice video and fun to watch. Take care now.
@carlmeserve1547 жыл бұрын
Electrical operation of the dumping mechanism is achieved using pick-up shoes on either side of the car. The pick-up shoes are used to transmit the electrical signal that opens or closes the doors to the control valve. When a positive (+) 24 VDC signal is present at the pick-up shoe and a negative (- 24 VDC signal is present on the rail, the signal to open the doors is routed through diodes in the valve’s internal wiring that allow the “open” solenoid to actuate. When the doors are to be closed, the electrical signal is reversed. The pick-up shoe sees a negative (- 24 VDC signal while the rail sees a positive (+) 24 VDC signal which is once again routed through the diodes to the “close” solenoid
@awashbowler5 жыл бұрын
So what prevents some random person from taking a 24 volt power source to these cars and opening them up whenever and wherever? Is there a mechanical safety mechanism that isnt shown here?
@doug1122445 жыл бұрын
@@awashbowler my guess is that unless air is be supplied by the car activating the solinoids does nothing.
@MattSmith-sq3qy12 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, I'm researching unloading methods of ortners and gons for my model railroad - this was great!!!
@Steve-xf4uv5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I knew how it was done but never actually saw it. Very cool.
@tokelosellosrailwaychanel32083 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7-jeaeop9rTo2g.html. I have captured something similar
@plazdookzr15608 жыл бұрын
The nifty super-swift switch device looks pretty silly when your conveyor's so slow.
@45polar6 жыл бұрын
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@bernietronell82456 жыл бұрын
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@UKMonkey3 жыл бұрын
or receiving hopper so small.
@josephastier74215 жыл бұрын
You just showed millions of people how to have fun with parked trains.
@xreconusmc31565 жыл бұрын
Excellent video I enjoyed this
@Luan155911 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting....I really enjoyed this video!!
@jamesrivis6205 жыл бұрын
Gives a whole new meaning to the word ‘modern’ eh ?
@chuckg20165 жыл бұрын
Tell the gerbils under there to pick up the pace.
@andersgabriel33 жыл бұрын
I know I'm kind of off topic but do anyone know of a good place to stream new series online?
@krewpeter14363 жыл бұрын
@Anders Gabriel Try FlixZone. You can find it by googling =)
@maximodavid83373 жыл бұрын
@Krew Peter yup, I have been using Flixzone for months myself :D
@andersgabriel33 жыл бұрын
@Krew Peter thank you, signed up and it seems to work :D I really appreciate it!!
@krewpeter14363 жыл бұрын
@Anders Gabriel You are welcome xD
@pqhkr20026 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of metal and air from moving train.
@3006USMC7 жыл бұрын
Yup... only 110 more to go....
@deshirabrinson2726 жыл бұрын
3006USMC more like 178😆
@johnhull63635 жыл бұрын
Good job
@Trains4Fun5 жыл бұрын
lol!
@ERIE126412 жыл бұрын
Shelly locomotive SD18M, CSX delivered the train and we staged train for departure..
@Thomas19804 жыл бұрын
Superb Video!
@fredstuckmann12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting that. I hadn't seen it before.
@tokelosellosrailwaychanel32083 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7-jeaeop9rTo2g.html. I have captured something similar
@Seaboard132113 жыл бұрын
wow, this is pretty cool!
@ERIE126411 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I should have been more informative. We were unloading limestone sand on this section of the train.. The train was loaded with three sizes of limestone and it just happen to be sand when I was able to video the scene. This sand makes a very durable product in asphalt and concrete as it does not break down. Rub some different types of sand between your fingers and you will understand why its in demand.
@robertogalaz25436 жыл бұрын
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@alexrobertson92946 жыл бұрын
yeah but your conveyor is still slow
@ronjohnson95075 жыл бұрын
They're unloading meth!!
@haroldcochan39713 жыл бұрын
@@ronjohnson9507 No it's not it's coke!
@geckog356 жыл бұрын
That feeling when your throwing up and it finally stops
@CaptNemo1009 жыл бұрын
This is really cool. Thanks for posting.
@franzotto4484 жыл бұрын
Absolute blockbuster
@JustinSpencerRailVideos12 жыл бұрын
This is what us fellow RR employees have called "luxury cars" lol. Sure beats unloading with sledge hammers and point bars, or having to bust your ass if a door wants to be stuck open!
@ERIE126413 жыл бұрын
@522549 115 tons of stone per car.35 tons car weight equals 150 tons per car, 14,500 tons for 100 cars.. Figure move time of 40 to 50 seconds per car,plus staging time . I think you see how time adds up..When I get some time I may show how slow swinging a sledge by two men opening the pockets rather than one man using a battery. I'm sure you wouldn't want to swing a sledge , open , close and lock pocket doors either. At the end of the stone season here these guys have arms like a Black Smith.
@rlewis19466 жыл бұрын
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@GWRProductions-kg9pt6 жыл бұрын
come to Britain & watch how it's done
@scowell4 жыл бұрын
Why is the video 6min long for one car?
@tracynation2394 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
I get a weird satisfaction seeing the wheels smash that stuff.
@RobertMossFishingandOutdoors10 жыл бұрын
That is so cool
@WJack972246 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Neat! So it is limestone. Regards. Good on ya mate.
@crsrdash-840b511 ай бұрын
Actually, there are six gated doors linked together in parallel to allow them act as a 3-set units. It's a common misunderstood detail we in model railroading make too.
@stephenhunter707 жыл бұрын
The problem for them isn't the cars it's their own conveyors or what ever they have underneath. It's nullifying the gains that have been made through the use of parametric doors on the cars
@seethetrain7 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's an awful lot of product on the ground. Someone probably has to come along with some kind of air sweeper to sweep that into the conveyor. Not very efficient.
@marinoprimiceri88056 жыл бұрын
seethetrain
@sharkheadism6 жыл бұрын
Yall don't know much about bulk commodity transport
@lylealexander78106 жыл бұрын
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@lachlanlandreth90695 жыл бұрын
There would be a wedge shape hopper that lets the product flow onto the the conveyor
@csxketh114 жыл бұрын
If I saw that correctly, the two wires coming from the thing the guy was holding (which looked like an old drill) touched the contact under the letters which triggered the door(s) to be opened?
@sundancer37005 жыл бұрын
Wow so exciting
@craxd15 жыл бұрын
I really do not see this system working that well in the future, as electrical circuits and railcars do not mix well. I worked for ACF Industries (now American Railcar), where we built cars, then for a machinery manufacturer who built equipment for the RR, and I owned a shop myself that built equipment for both CSX and NS. A manual hand valve system, with the carman carrying a keyed handle, would be much better. There are too many things, including weather conditions, that can cause an electrically controlled system to fail. Solenoids have an affinity to go bad, on top of rust/corrosion, dirt/sand, ice, etc, interfering with the electrical circuit.
@TheNemosdaddy4 жыл бұрын
They've been around for years now and work just fine long term.
@rogersoler56449 ай бұрын
Crazy Video...
@danwat12348 жыл бұрын
18 volts? Easy for troublemakers to open the doors
@mujeeb71004 жыл бұрын
Untill the acess is feom clear the engine loco pilot
@SantaFe194845 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Where is this at?
@LSZocker20098 жыл бұрын
Nice
@turnerdeedo46332 жыл бұрын
You can actually see the whole car rise up as it's getting unloaded because the weight of the cargo is no longer present.
@jamesbenedict72064 жыл бұрын
This is like watching paint dry!
@TrillBill11 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting..Do you guys load stuff like Salt and Sugar or is that for 100 ton Hopper Cars?
@gurwindersingh74323 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@Turquoise4124 жыл бұрын
‘Stand Clear Of The Doors’ - just like commuter trains!!!
@ERIE126411 жыл бұрын
This is not race. We do 30 car cuts as we do not rotate the car. But,, We did have a best day when we unloaded two trains,122 cars in 12 hours...
@snowman82356 жыл бұрын
ERIE1264 You guys busted your butts
@Daichan189311 жыл бұрын
Dumpster would probably be faster, but you will need rotary ends on the car... That local Coal Plant in Rodermacher, LA gets 3 coal Trains every noun again, takes them about 24 hrs for 135-138 cars
@whiteknightcat2 жыл бұрын
Now some smart ass is going to take an old battery powered drill and rig up electric contacts and try this out somewhere, causing a shit ton of money in losses.
@Fast5MTA8 жыл бұрын
0:30 wow! seperated button/switch
@user-kolhoz100let.5 жыл бұрын
Управлениеэлектроклапанами пневмоцилиндров открывания и закрывания люков при помощи переносного аккумулятора?Спасибо.
@rico3347 жыл бұрын
So what the hell is the little orange drill looking thing and how does it make the doors open by just touching whatever that is on the side of the car ?
@crispy83297 жыл бұрын
looks like it is sending an electrical current, grounds out on the lower strip, then touches each of the circles individually.
@OOpSjm6 жыл бұрын
generates electrical pulse
@geezer6526 жыл бұрын
Appears to be "electric solenoid over air". Electric current provided by "the little orange drill looking thing" trips the solenoid, the solenoid trips air valve that opens or closes the three doors.
@awashbowler5 жыл бұрын
It appears to actually be a milwaukee flashlight... basically a drill. They are just using it as a source of electric current.
@Trains4Fun5 жыл бұрын
Looks like the kind of job i want. I wonder how sweet sweet that paid is 😙💰😂
@tuckergreen21385 жыл бұрын
Trains4Fun 38 -42 dollars 💵 hour
@GG1man11 жыл бұрын
Incredible, no graffitti !!!!! By the way, thanks for posting, it was very informative.
@pete56683 жыл бұрын
All the kids living along the line must've been sufficiently spanked. Rare for these days.
@valentinalexandru88906 жыл бұрын
ERIE1264 So basically you are saying that one car contains 115 tons of stone and that gets conveyed underneath in about 4 minutes. And all the people are saying its a slow conveyor!!!
@awashbowler5 жыл бұрын
Yup! and they dont realize that whether its a hydraulic door like this or a manual door, the car is still going to empty at roughly the same rate resulting in the same flow on the conveyor. I swear people don't use their heads anymore!
@jimbarchuk4 жыл бұрын
@@awashbowler You're right but there's more. Go find the post by a guy who used to operate those doors manually. Crawling under railcars, at night, in the rain, and swinging huge metal doors till they shut. Dangerous and unpleasant. My back hurts watching the machine do it. OSHA and workman's comp nightmare. Expensive electronics is cheaper than injuries.
@franzotto4486 жыл бұрын
Maikäfer im September fangen ist aufregender.
@cfbflash56912 жыл бұрын
Must be nice we have to use a heavy ass gate opener lol
@AndrewNeilFalconer11 жыл бұрын
B-Break End C-Center A-non-break end
@sharkheadism6 жыл бұрын
*brake
@hansenfiet2539 Жыл бұрын
If you watch in faster time lapse mode, you can actually see the car springing back upward as the weight inside is emptied.
@studinthemaking6 жыл бұрын
What they unloading there?
@sharkheadism6 жыл бұрын
Sand
@JBofBrisbane11 жыл бұрын
In central Queensland we tried rotary dumping on the coal traffic. We found bottom dumping was quicker.
@davidhimmelsbach5572 жыл бұрын
The Swedes have solved rotary dumping. They use it for iron ore. It's AMAZING to behold.
11 жыл бұрын
wow, what a tough job probably union
@Turquoise4124 жыл бұрын
Talesin- God of the Internet Nah, union would have required two men and a foreman
@kevinrichards32883 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@briangardiner10155 жыл бұрын
How far is the sand hauled?
@geoffreylee51998 жыл бұрын
Car is faster than the hopper auger, so no time savings here. Might be better at other facilities where they deliver.
@danielrose13926 жыл бұрын
It safes time. You cut down on the time between two cars, it is 55s now, assume it was much longer previously.
@LynnCDoyle-ek2oh5 жыл бұрын
I safe time by not watching too many boring videos.
@arturomarroquin94875 жыл бұрын
Que es esa cosa con la que abren las puertas?
@whiteclifffl3 жыл бұрын
Pull here Jack here LOL
@931seeker5 жыл бұрын
Going to bring my drill to the railroad yard.
@banaspati85883 жыл бұрын
DOORA..!!
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
6:21 CSX Upside-down.
@BUNCHofxs6 жыл бұрын
All while using what seems to be a drill half way taken apart with 2 wires rigged on the end. hahahaha
@briangardiner10155 жыл бұрын
Not bad almost 5 minutes to unload 150 tons
@scabs72205 жыл бұрын
Is that Frac Sand?
@AGSGuy12 жыл бұрын
What engine were you using & why does it have a CSX EOT on it?
@TheOilman74710 жыл бұрын
What does that power drill do?
@inevitablecraftslab5 жыл бұрын
so a 2cell lipo will do the job, good to know :)
@LSZocker20096 жыл бұрын
How many volt do they use?
@cw77846 жыл бұрын
LSZocker2009 18 is what they said if your asking about that drill they were using
@batmanbeyond40012 жыл бұрын
The guy with the John Deere shirt? it looked like he had it on right with the plastic strap where it was
@MK065635 жыл бұрын
Is this wheat or limestone?
@angus11343 жыл бұрын
What r they unloading
@djtodd35 жыл бұрын
I'm not real sure what they are unloading, but they should probably have dust masks on
@doubleutubefan55 жыл бұрын
Looks like sand to me
@user-yg2up4lg3r5 жыл бұрын
@@doubleutubefan5 Actually limestone. Which would be wise having a mask on.
@zoebott33483 жыл бұрын
What are they called
@martinadamkovic554310 жыл бұрын
I wonder, what kind of discharge mechanism it is? Miner, Ortner?
@EdmontonRails9 жыл бұрын
it seems to be air powered
@TheSonic101609 жыл бұрын
Martin Adamkovič Gravity.
@2teKnoA11 жыл бұрын
This video needs more effects
@mattsmocs32816 жыл бұрын
Cement plant or other? Also I would be surprised if nobody said it was cocaine for the joke of it.
@mayhemmike17895 жыл бұрын
What's being dumped? Flour? Sugar? Sand? Salt? Molly? Coke?
@davehughesfarm79835 жыл бұрын
bolivian cocaine at a CIA base...
@jayswarrow11964 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be CIA, cause instead of this screwdriver battery, they'd used different laser decoder guns for each door on each car, to make sure the taxpayer's money were spent on a proper equipment.
@dancujo55917 жыл бұрын
Cars look brand new.
@kennethcary28210 жыл бұрын
Erie, I'm doing research for a novel. What is the tool the man used to release the air that opened the hopper, it looked like something electrical. Also, is there a manual override?
@clearwater3d10 жыл бұрын
Looks like there is a ground plate which i think is the large plate on the bottom then there are 3 plates per door and it completes the circuit with that trigger tool
@mopac185110 жыл бұрын
just looks like a battery with wires attached to open solenoid valves
@spencergreenhill77285 жыл бұрын
Too many of the commentators have no idea of what they are talking about. Try opening doors on a frozen railcar in midwinter.
@peterkelly96144 жыл бұрын
This is still very inefficient compared to big mining operations in many places that unload multiple hopper cars at same time and empty much more quickly. But this is still pretty damn good
@schrap726 жыл бұрын
What's being unloaded?
@sharkheadism6 жыл бұрын
Sand
@toddbehrends13735 жыл бұрын
What are the cars hauling?
@wheeliemaster1004 жыл бұрын
Todd Behrends that would be sand screenings
@brendaneckhart93768 жыл бұрын
Im surprised they don't have cars that unload from their sides by simply tipping themselves, like some farm equipment
@mitchalbert27377 жыл бұрын
I researched availability of a single suitable telescoping hydraulic I could bury on the side opposite tilting. Found everything. No problems.
@EastTexasRailfan5 жыл бұрын
They do have them, used coal.
@schrap7212 жыл бұрын
What are t hey unloading?
@davidn61245 жыл бұрын
Sand
@douglasgoomes6 жыл бұрын
In which country was it filmed? Please, i need to know it because of a homework!
@jonahbomchill326210 жыл бұрын
what railroad
@truckstrains97454 жыл бұрын
Csx I think
@Long_island_20174 жыл бұрын
Looks like it’s dropping huge amounts of cocaine 😜
@duluthbro11 жыл бұрын
Why are the doors listed B C A?
@user-zc9pq1bz6n7 жыл бұрын
Originally those were vegetable haulers for broccoli, cauliflower, and asparagus.
@tracynation2394 жыл бұрын
Brake end, Center, A end. ♡ T.E.N.
@madisonvillegirl111 жыл бұрын
What was you unloading? Is it rice, salt, or sugar?
@davidn61245 жыл бұрын
Sand
@happysingle91845 жыл бұрын
The union is probably the reason the feeder system is so slow ....