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I was an atheist from the start and still am. I've consumed about 500 hours of Sam Harris content first, then started listening to Jordan Peterson. Harris taught me how to notice and uderstand my emotions and how to be happy with the present moment. Peterson taught me what my long-term priorities and needs are and helped me understand how to live in a way that is more productive to society. Listening to Harris was intelectualy stimulating, but did not really impact my life in a big way, other than making me a bit more happy in general. Listening to Peterson completely transformed the way I live and actualy "changed my life", making me a better person in all aspects of life.

When Jordan was asked who his smartest opposition is, he said Sam. There is a lot of respect between the two. They're both great.

SH: Two times three equals six. JP: Two times three equals the intangible evanescent process of unknowable numeracy linked to the transcendence of the highest hierarchical integral foundation of the ultimate structure of our being.

When I found out about Sam Harris, it was such a pleasant surprise. Not that I've watched every content of his, but the ones I've seen/heard so far almost gave me the feelings as if he were reading my mind.

Sam was my gateway into bettering my life about six years ago where he taught me to become more spiritual and subsequently spend hundreds of hours meditating. This opened my mind to the possibility of a more meaningful and purposeful life by changing my orientation to it. I then found Peterson where I spent hundreds of hours consuming his content and seeing him live, twice, and feel the development I made by listening to Sam and through meditation allowed me to deeply hear Petersons message and change the way I live my life, not just the way I feel about my life. I’ve woken up with the explicit goal of bettering myself for the sake of my future and those around me for several years now, thanks to these intellectual titans.

Respecful debate between intellects has always been a treasure. There hasn't been enough of it. These days, if people disagree they just hurl ugly insults.

'They needed some language to help them midwife their delivery into the clear light of reason' - this is an insightful recognition of where much of his value lands. For myself, listening to the likes of Sam, Dawkins, Hitchens and Fry, helped me clarify my thoughts on the role the religion played, and is playing in the world. I cannot thank them enough. There is no more powerful gift that I can think of, than leading others to think in a rational way.

I wish someone like Sam would talk about Peterson before and after his severe medical problems. It seems as if JP has gone in a different direction since.

I used to be a hardcore Sam Harris fan, I believed him when he said free will is an illusion, while that still may be true this belief did not aid me at all, infact I believe it made me nihilistic. It wasn't until I decided to take responsibility into my own hands and believe I had a choice in my life that I was able to turn myself around. I have Jordan Peterson to thank for that. While I still respect Sam greatly (and use his awakening meditation app) I am much more of a Peterson fan now. What you believe to be surely true has far more impact on your life then what may actually be true, because it affects your choices.

Sam Harris been doing those 8 hour arm workouts lately 💪

The production is impressive and basically so good that it becomes comic. It’s a mix between thriller interrogation scene and RPG cutscene aesthetics.

I was one of the people who's intellectual and spiritual awakening was in many ways caused by the conversations between Sam and Jordan. I'm very grateful to Sam for all the rumination he has given me. I think the Hunter Biden thing was more than a ridiculous thing to say, but I'm still grateful. I don't think there's much juice left to squeeze though, and that's why they don't talk anymore. Jordan has moved on to something more traditional, Sam still thinks what he thinks. There's other avenus to explore for fans that are more profitable

It's amazing how he and Maajid Nawaz started the same tour together and ended up at opposite positions on everything in the years that followed.

We need intellectuals who can rapidly adapt and change their minds on things. Sam and Jordan debates were great because they were challenging. They should discuss NON-religious/NON-atheist topics simply due to how eloquent they both are.

I appreciate the juxtaposition of their viewpoints. I hope Sam and Jordan dont become intillectual enemies because BOTH of them have changed my life in very fundamental ways. I appreciate how different they are because it proves there is no one way to think. It is in the grappling of difficult ideas that we move forward. Grapple on.

“Midwife their delivery into the clear light of reason” Sam is a master of condescension & subtle insult

Claiming that Peterson inhabits an echo chamber while, in the same breath, saying how he attempts to maintain his own ... eeeeesh ... there's a great difference between having intellect and posessing wisdom.

Haven't heard sam in 3-4 years. Looks like he has been working out.😅 Though his face looks like he has aged quite a bit.

This guy was easily the 5th best Batman in the last 50 years of Cinema.

I love both Sam's and Jordan's and how different they are, two people who've opened my mind to many, many important ideas.

I like how Harris is basically implying that Peterson is in a bubble because Harris got off of twitter and no longer sees what people are saying about him and only listens to to "channels" he choses to. What an interesting way of actually making you seem well informed when you are the one who chose to tune out your critics. FYI it wasn't just that one clip from the podcast that made many of us doubt your adhesion to your ethics or principles.

Shoutout to the production crew. This looks as cinematic as most major films. Well done!

I discovered Harris, Peterson, psychedelics and buddhism all around the same time. Sam is absolutely right about psychedelics, I started as an athiest and a very unspiritual person. Psychedelics unlocked spirituality for me as Harris describes here. I am still an athiest, but have adopted buddhism, and a lot of Peterson's philosophy and mindset on living a meaningful life.

I am happy to say I agree with Sam on nearly everything. He describes my positions more eloquently than I ever could.

Sam and Jordan are both brilliant in a fairly wide variety of topics. I always want to know what both of them think about issues. I also disagree with both on various things. It made me happy to hear they have no bad blood between them. At least on Sam's side.

Sam had this to say about Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan. "In my view they're in a contrarian echo chamber" But Sam removed himself from Twitter. Thus separating himself from those who disagree with him. Joe has invited him to debate Bret Weinstein about his and Sam's opposing view points. Even if Joe was in an "echo chamber" he invited someone who wasn't in it to speak. Yet, Sam hasn't come on to debate his views.

Can't wait for the full episode!

I was unaware Jordan and Sam were in a relationship, I hope they can work through their struggles

For a guy who understands steel manning that characterization of Rogan and audience capture is a crazy statement…

At minute 5 I realized I have no idea what was the question and what Sam is going on about. Yep cant wait for the 3 hour ep

Where’s the full podcast?

Video production is awesome!! Looks like a movie.

Sam ‘No amount of child corpses compares to Donald Trump’ Harris

Come on, nobody comes up to Sam Harris crying while telling him he changed their lives.

I would love to see Sam and Jordan do another talk. On a completely separate note, Sam's bicep game is on point.

the color grading in this video is fantastic. Also, Sam still got it. I don't necessarily agree with every point he makes, but he is difficult it ignore in public discourse.

It's insane to see him complain about Peterson's bubble and not acknowledge his own. He literally suggested on the Triggernometry podcast that he was basically glad that information important to the common voter was actively subverted by our news media institutions at the behest of the leftist sphere. I hope this is addressed at some point in the podcast.

Both Sam, and Jordan is hard not to like very much! Seems both like two really good guys! Could listen to them both for hours.

Sam's Waking Up app transformed the way I meditate. Jordan's lectures transformed my goals and how I live. And the debates between them, which I watched multiple times, transformed the way I approach conversation. I'm grateful to both these men

I always loved his poise and the respect he showed his opponents, in my opinion that is the professionalism that all fighters should aspire to.

Thanks for this Chris. I'm right leaning and I like Jordan Peterson a lot. It's nice to hear Sam talk here and he's obviously very sharp as well. I think I had a biased against him because some buddies of mine started worshiping him a few years ago so I kind of overcorrected and went hard into Jordan Peterson. I'm trying to live my life more openly when it comes to my information so i'm excited to hear this full podcast.

Regarding his Hunter Biden controversy, Sam said "In my world, and in every channel I care about literally nothing had happened" So, everyone around agrees with him? That sounds a lot like and echo chamber.

Great insight at the end in speaking of the great need for institutions and media outlets that we can trust post Covid, and that we are just not going to get there with podcasts and newsletters. Now to commenters and listeners, what about the action items?

Love Sam Harris' precise conversation on intellectual topics! Always learning something new when listening to his podcast :)

Can’t wait for this. I’ve heard you mention wanting to have him on for years. Proud and not surprised that you made it happen.

All three of these men have had such a wonderful effect on my life and mind. Differences have only accelerated my growth. Thank you!

I truly 🙏🏻 wish and hope Sam Harris to be back and/or more present. He brings a different yet important aspect and perceptions of life. He’s incredibly sensitive, most probably why he chose to disconnect from the “wild west” of social internet media. And truly wish JBP to demonstrate more empathy/compassion to SH.

As someone who has appreciated both Sam and Jordan, I would pay a lot of money to see these two costar in a two and a half men parody.

Sam thinks that because something is predictable or explainable that it is not meaningful. Jordan understands that that perspective is one of arrogance.

I enjoyed both but Jim Rohn for ever be one of my all time favorite speakers. That man changed my life that I will forever be grateful for.

Where's the full pod?

can we just talk about how Sam has become an ABSOLUTE UNIT?

For all his criticism of others, Sam missed the mark in a major way several times over the last couple of years and still refuses to take a step back and take a hard, honest look at those moments, and more importantly, himself. Until then, I'm honestly not so interested in what he has to say anymore. It's too large a blind spot, or worse, character flaw, for me to gloss over. There are also many presuppositions in Sam's arguments that he's completely unwilling to critically examine, let alone budge on, which made his debates with Jordan grating to listen to as they quickly devolved into an intellectual jiu-jitsu match of semantics. They argue from a different epistemological framework, and Jordan is willing and able to view things from Sam's perspective, whereas Sam is not willing to cross that bridge. It's a highly unpleasant form of arrogance combined with close-mindedness that becomes very apparent once you get past being impressed by Sam's verbal intelligence.

I started out as a Hitchens fan by watching his debates in the early 2010's, and that's how I came across Sam Harris. I have been a fan of his cool articulate intellect ever since. I discovered Jordan Peterson much later, about 2015, just as he was publishing his Maps and Meanings Lectures on KZfaq and the beginnings of his Bill c-16 issues were taking place. I am big fans of them both, I even remember posting an email to Sam's socials saying something along the lines of "you and Jordan Peterson should have a discussion, about literally any topic, I'm sure it will be fascinating" Both Sam and Jordan had done podcasts with Joe (another podcaster I got turned on to because of Sam, and Graham Hancock) immediately before they had their first chat, which turned out to be a bit of a misfire. As much as they see themselves as different from each other, and they are to be sure, I see them as being very similar too. like they are both trying to say the same thing, but using a different dialect. Sam's background as a neuroscientist gives his ideas a kind of 'outside in' perspective, like he is trying to understand consciousness by studying the mind externally, like trying to study the brain to better understand consciousness and thinking in terms of neurons and brain regions etc. whereas Jordan being a Psychologist seems to come at the same problem from a kind of 'inside out' perspective. ie he trying to study consciousness to better understand the brain, ie the idea of Jungian arc types representing the collective experiences of millions of humans all experiencing the operations of similar brain structures, and experiencing it as collectively shared behaviours and beliefs. Personally I am an atheist, so I interpret Jordan's religious references as a combination of metaphors and philosophical treatises, I actually think that is how Jordan interprets them too, I don't think he is a biblical literalist, though I may be wrong on that. That is where I think some of the disagreement comes from between the two, Sam spent his early online career with Hitch arguing against a literal interpretation of the bible. so when Jordan says the things in the bible are true, he means it, but only as Obi Wan would say, true from a certain point of view. I think they both have a lot to offer the world, they are both fascinating and they both believe in the importance of freedom of speech and respecting facts and science. I also think that they are both a little swayed by their respective echo chambers, but I think they are both able to keep their vision clear for the most part too. I personally would love to see them have another debate, or rather a conversation where neither party was trying to win points, or appeal to their fans, but just listen and learn from each other. I think that would be something to see.

I’m not a fan of Sam but it’s good to see him.

"I think, therefore I Am"- Sam..

Great guest. Will be looking forward to the full podcast next week. His conversation with Jordan on the nature of truth is still one of my favorite debates of all times. Hopefully they get together in the future and talk about philosophy (well, anything but politics. I don't care for either of their political views)

What is the oryginal podcast? The link in description doesnt work for me

Great point at the end. I think humanity suffers from the inability to believe two things at the same time.

Sam looks like hes aged 10 years from about 2 years ago.

Sam always sounds profound without being originally profound

"contrarian eco chamber" is a great quote. Also: The camera angle always frames the upper arms of these guys really well. Props to whoever set that up.

Love listening to a wide range of intellectuals. Sam is the one where I am almost 100% in line with his thinking but Peterson, Dawkins, etc are all important listening...and oh do I miss Hitchens.

Sam is making the argument that religion, something that holds a deep Moral/philisophical weight to a large swathe of people can and should be arbitrarily engineered based on how he feels. And going by who he has been the past few years, I wonder if people are allowed to come to a conclusion he does not like.

Sam talking about how people who disagree with his perspective are in their own bubble is just too precious.

It’s crystal clear those debates with Peterson led Sam to reconsider Christianity. There’s no denying it, folks: the man’s been doing preacher curls.

This marks the 6th time I've heard Harris alude to the failures of our public health and media institutions. I've yet to hear him utter a single *example* of any of these failures. The reason for this is that he fears the citizenry's distrust in official channels to be more dangerous than their ineptitude and corruption. Therefore, he has abandoned intellectual integrity and devoted his platform to maintain faith in these institutions, regardless of the truth. Honestly, I could salvage some amount of respect for him if he would just admit this, but so far, I've been disappointed.

I'll reserve judgment until the full episode, but I'm concerned. I like a lot of what Sam has said throughout the years, but I'm increasingly getting the feeling that I will never hear the words "I was totally wrong on this" from his mouth. His stance change on Biden as the adult in the room does not quite qualify. Just like with Richard Dawkins who I also respect, what I expect from the "greatest thinkers of our time" is the ability to admit fault, straight up without excuses. However great your mind is, and however well thought out your arguments are, you are not immune from getting it wrong. I just want to hear an earnest admitting of fault occasionally, otherwise I find it impossible to take the rest seriously.

Sam makes some of the most ironic statements I've ever heard.

Love the widescreen 4k!

I dont hope for any kind of rekindled relationship, unless Sam can somehow get through to Jordan. I dont know how genuine Jordan is in the first place either though.

He should debate the very man that invented MRNA treatments.

I'm looking forward to the full episode, I just hope that he can finally accept that he has blind spots and bad takes just like everyone else. A bit of humility would go a long way with this enlightened one 😄

Their intelligence manifests itself in different ways. Sam is brilliant and Jordan is insightful. I enjoy them both and they both have important things to offer. However, only one of them gets described by people with the phrase “His work changed my life.” You know who that is.

I enjoy Sam’s podcast and find it refreshing. My view of his exchange here is he’s doing his best to be charitable towards Jordan despite his disagreements.

Cannot wait to hear the full conversation. Sam has a brilliant mind and is thought-provoking to listen to (which I haven't in a while), and since the last time I listened to him I've heard a lot of people respectfully speak out against him; namely Joe Rogan, Bret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and Trent Horn. Will be a good one.

Can't wait for the full next Mon.😍😍😍

Sam made me question religion. Peterson showed me how to try and understand religion. Chris shows everyone he's creating a religion of fucking amazing podcasts. Long way from Osbourne road mate. Well done 👍

Both Sam and Jordan are important. A person who knows how to filter through information can understand that both don’t necessarily contradict each other, but compliment. Both have impacted my life in a big way. All I’ll say about Jordan is that he amplifies certain topics I don’t find necessary and the truly profound (imo) are not as highlighted and so, I think he can do better in prioritizing information. He could use less air time and a few breaks. Sam, is probably one of the most excellent communicators I’ve ever come across. That alone has changed the way I talk about pretty much everything in my life. His meditation app saved my life and a few of those around me. He has made me less successful employment wise in the short term, but overall a better human. The world doesn’t revolve around treating others well and unconditional love- and so I’ve suffered a little financially. But otherwise, im doing better, so it’s a decent trade off. Both are important and not necessarily at odds. In terms of trust in institutions and the media- he talks vaguely and carefully as he should- but ALOT of work needs to be done in those fields. I don’t think anyone has good enough ideas where to start.

The deterministic universe will ensure I listen to this upcoming podcast, through no free will of my own.

I watch a LOT of JBP content and the rare times JBP mentions Harris is when he's pulling up an argument of his.

@timcast needs to take notes on the lighting of this video.

A very interesting contrast of personalities. Sam compliments Jordan, very classy. Jordan does help people, cannot deny this. 😊

I could listen to thinkers like Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson all day, every day and never get bored. Especially when they aren't just being interviewed but talking to one another about literally anything...

I find amazing how Sam truly believe that he is in the 'center'.

10:06 the Echo Chamber he goes on to describe, just happens to be Reality for a lot of Center or Center-Right people. I mean I'm just glad he can define it - next he needs to find people to discuss it with. This is not Chris' bag as he is trying to stay unbiased and just let Sam speak his truth; and I respect that.

Being into technology, I've realized the future is experienced on a personal level. We get a common "future" when enough people experience progress together. 100 years from now, many will still be born in the past. There were some "great men" born in the future, of their day. Religious people will be around as long as some aren't ready to live in the future, which is plausibly forever.

Are we expected to forget about Sam's comments about Trump, Hunter Biden and all the rest? Will be interesting to see if any of that is covered in the full interview.

Sam needs to get on JRE and talk with Rogan and Peterson. Discourse please - no feuds.

Fantastic clip, appreciated, cheers

I doubt Sam would be so charitable towards JP if he still had a twitter account. The man has gone completely off his rocker.

Sam mixed up Joe's response and Peterson's response. Peterson was the one who still had hope for Sam's comeback.

It’s gonna be fucking hard to wait until next Monday 😅 … that’s painful … Can’t wait for this exciting episode, love Sam, such a bright humble fellow ! Cares about nuances and constructs his arguments beautifully !! The episode is gonna be damn stimulating !!! Thanx Chris, you rock !

I sincerely think he believes himself objective and consistent, and then he says things like, "contrarian echo chamber." He's so self assured he misses his oxymoronic, contradictory positions while being dismissive of others pov.

Chris's skill to just sit and listen for long periods of time is commendable. I fell off the sam Harris bandwagon a long time ago with his tds. I guess he really still has it.

I like Sam. And this video production looks excellent.

It’s amazing all the gaslighting that we got from institutions that we need to trust. I don’t think I realized that Sam Harris was part of it.

Haven't seen Sam Harris in a while. Didn't know he was this fit. Good for him!

Sam’s ideas have lost their luster. It doesn’t hold up across time, which is an indication that his ideas are weak upon deep investigation.