Modified Yet Period-Correct, This Mercedes-Benz 190SL Is Displaced In Time

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Petrolicious

Petrolicious

7 жыл бұрын

This week we join Michael Potiker for a ride back in time in his tastefully modified Mercedes 190 SL as he wheels around Los Angeles in the low-cut period-correct roadster.
For most, the gorgeous Benz offers more than enough personality in stock form, and would be no difficult feat to become attached to, but to achieve an even deeper bond with his machine Michael hasn’t shied away from adding some custom touches. After acquiring the 190 SL following a serendipitous stroll down his father’s street where the pair came across the car for the first time, he went about researching the legacy of the model to discover what they were used for, trying to ascertain their place in the era from which they came.
Though often shadowed by its older brother the 300 SL, Mercedes also offered packages for 190 SL owners who were looking to go racing, and upon learning of this option Michael went about sourcing parts and finding builders to transform his car into a Southern California-style racer while also paying homage to the original Rennsport kit (which Mercedes would sell to customers separate from the car, with the owners adding the pieces themselves).
On the experience of driving the resulting slice-like Mercedes roadster, he explains that for him, “It’s not even about the roads and the scenery, it’s about rowing the gears and operating this absolutely ridiculous vehicle.” While it’s nice to enjoy our cars in ideal settings, we have to agree with Michael on what’s paramount in all of this, and that is the actual act of driving, regardless of where it’s happening.
There are certain cars, like this one is for Michael, that have that kind of pull on us that can turn any drive into an activity that reaffirms your original passion for the car. And when you use such a thing regularly? That’s even better, and in keeping with his idea that it’s important to use cars like this, because it’s “about experiencing something that’s drastically different from the everyday,” even if you’re still using it every day.
Beyond the lowered doors and windscreen, the “cafe road racer” look is achieved through an interesting shade of green applied to the body and unadorned steel wheels, a subtle and appropriate livery, and some prominent Marchal driving lights mounted at the corners of the classic ovoid Mercedes grille. On the performance side of the changes, the 190 SL’s inline-four has been fitted with some hotter Webers, which leaves you with what is “effectively a pedal that’s an on-off switch,” and as Michael goes on to explain, “It changes the way you drive because you look for these opportunities to be flooring the car.” In order to keep the thing planted in this pursuit of full-throttle driving, the suspension components have been upgraded to stiffer and newer pieces to cope.
On the joys of using a car like this often, Michael remarks that it’s like being in “a cosplay time machine as a 1950s racing driver.” If a car can elicit those kinds of wondrous child’s-imagination-come-true feelings and turn that into a regular reality, that’s Driving Tastefully®.
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@lolboicam1711
@lolboicam1711 7 жыл бұрын
Only if i could nominate this channel for an oscar.
@davidparker8221
@davidparker8221 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that the spelling you're looking for is Awes-Car ( Awesome Car or Cars !) What extraordinary vehicles, what extraordinary filming! Truly delightful!!! A moveable feast!
@DeltaSniperZRR
@DeltaSniperZRR 7 жыл бұрын
The cinematography is amazing, maybe one of your best Petrolicious. Its now more like short-movie.
@alexcheetah79
@alexcheetah79 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
@archierri
@archierri 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, teal&orange Look!
@18echosf
@18echosf 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the way you've filmed this video and the music in each section was fantastic!
@erichakanson7010
@erichakanson7010 7 жыл бұрын
absolutely stunning. looks beautiful. sounds heavenly. everything you want in a car. and this video is exactly why I love Petrolicious so much. I'm somewhat familiar with the history of this model but didn't know about the rennsport kit. petrolicious not only gives us gorgeous cars to look at and listen to but always gives us a little history lesson as well. also, petrolicious camera work/cinematography is the best on KZfaq. the shot at the 2:17 exemplifies how this car is right at home winding it's way down a tree lined highway.
@kikowner
@kikowner 7 жыл бұрын
To Petrolicious and everyone else involved in the making of this video: thank you, thank you, thank you. I've said it and I will say it time and time again: this is the kind of video I'll show to anyone who asks me why I like cars. The footage, the sound, the people, the cars, the groovy feeling. Amazing every single time. Thanks again for establishing what the love for classic cars and mechanics in general is
@silvertoy_
@silvertoy_ 7 жыл бұрын
The car is amazing. The video is amazing. I think Sir Stirling Moss would be wearing the goggles not using them as a prop/fashion statement. I'm very glad this car is owned by a person who puts it on the road and it's not sitting somewhere rusting away or hidden away.
@cutdepiefails6596
@cutdepiefails6596 4 жыл бұрын
Car is rotten lol. Dude spent every dime in the absolutely wrong things, jay leno did it best. Outside looks like shit, original. Engine and mechanical bits running like a dream.
@76ajc
@76ajc 6 жыл бұрын
Man, oh man..... even the seat upholstery....the jazzy soundtrack..... such perfection. The glint of light off the instrument panel and that beautiful steering wheel. Y’all are KILLING IT!! This is true automotive art. Thank you guys. Sincerely.
@pR1sooeem
@pR1sooeem 7 жыл бұрын
petrolicous, you guys and the people you feature have such a supreme taste, your videos truly are a pleasure to watch
@jpm74
@jpm74 7 жыл бұрын
He's a hipster yes. But, there's room for hipsters in the car world. A very beautiful Merc.
@imtiredbosss
@imtiredbosss 7 жыл бұрын
plenty of hipsters have money. see Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
@imtiredbosss
@imtiredbosss 7 жыл бұрын
hipster was actually a term that was used a lot 2005 - 2010. Nowadays its just a buzzword/insult for some young person who might dress differently from you. Kinda like a yuppie.
@TheLLentini
@TheLLentini 7 жыл бұрын
sunglasses with goggles on the helmet. dead give away.
@zer0bre
@zer0bre 7 жыл бұрын
He's a hipster. No doubt about it. And you don't use words from 2005 to 2010. A word is a word. It doesn't lose meaning after five years. It still means the same. Representing a modern, mild, soft mannered, technologically more advanced, Apple loving, vintage caring, beard wearing type of a guy that's somewhat or totally apolitical. They're prone to use stuff their grandparents used to use just because they think they look cool, usually not interested about the history of the item at all. Overall more intelligent that you average guy but still flawed by vanity .
@scratchacat
@scratchacat 7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Z most people are flawed in some way. I'd rather they be flawed like you describe than almost any other way!!
@parismalaspinas2488
@parismalaspinas2488 4 жыл бұрын
This shouldn't be free to watch. You guys are absolutely killing it with these videos.
@malcolmgay2967
@malcolmgay2967 7 жыл бұрын
Fabulous classic being used. Thanks for sharing.
@standewit7097
@standewit7097 7 жыл бұрын
This guy gives the word hipster a whole new meaning. Fantastic car tho
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus 6 жыл бұрын
Stan de Wit before I read any comments I was going to write that this video is a hipsters wet dream. I must say I like it though.
@adg1017
@adg1017 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto, just two years later.
@hectorortega06
@hectorortega06 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a beautiful automobile. The amount of time and dedication spent on this vehicle is apparent at first sight. What a great video petrolicious.
@TyCo87
@TyCo87 7 жыл бұрын
this channel makes THE BEST car videos on KZfaq. The cinematography captures the essence of the car and driver. haters will hate because they don't understand the satisfaction that comes with doing things exactly as you like without care of what others think.
@markdelgado1466
@markdelgado1466 2 ай бұрын
What a great video. Thank you for the experience!
@mostlyirishcarguy8955
@mostlyirishcarguy8955 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't know much about this car...man I'm pleasantly surprised, looks and sounds beautiful
@fionnoleary8022
@fionnoleary8022 7 жыл бұрын
one of my favourite videos on the channel, what a car.
@aborer1790
@aborer1790 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way with my little '67 Vw Beetle. Shortly after I came into this country my earliest remembrance was a yellow 69 beetle driving the opposite way. My father and I searched for the perfectly weird one, then after my 16th birthday I scrolled through Craigslist and I saw this little red beetle and I instantly fell in love. When we went out to take a look I was grinning ear to ear - I was like shaking nervously. Few days later I got her, fixed her brake lines, bought new front shoes, and a spark plug. In a couple months it'll be 3 years since I had her. 😄😄😄❤
@tomkemp3008
@tomkemp3008 7 жыл бұрын
This guy's having a blast with that car. NIce to see. Great video -- Thanks!
@fw1421
@fw1421 6 жыл бұрын
You are one lucky man! I've always had a thing for the 190SL's. Beautiful classic!❤️❤️❤️
@nicholaslopez7918
@nicholaslopez7918 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car and kudos to the guy for keeping it going!
@grey-nimbus
@grey-nimbus 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. You really captured the essence of owning and driving a classic sports car ( any classic sports car ! ). It's about the driving!
@lugnut4848
@lugnut4848 7 жыл бұрын
Such a true enthusiast car! This is what its all about.
@redriver15262
@redriver15262 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing this car In Little Italy was an Event! Such an Awesome car!
@christophergustafson3942
@christophergustafson3942 6 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing car story - Well Done Mr. Potiker
@Mantenner
@Mantenner 7 жыл бұрын
holy shit, this one just raised the bar. The filming was amazing, something even better about this one than your usual ones.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 7 жыл бұрын
This video certainly shows you that everyone has a different perspective on what is a perfect car.
@96sightingsfilms60
@96sightingsfilms60 6 жыл бұрын
The cinematography and the edits is insane!
@waynegto1484
@waynegto1484 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and a car full of character.....thanks for preserving such cool car.
@irfann8820
@irfann8820 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful piece of art...
@WAYAWAYWithAsh
@WAYAWAYWithAsh 7 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! Loved the juxtaposition of modern LA against the old Merc.
@kairodavian114
@kairodavian114 2 жыл бұрын
You all probably dont give a shit but does any of you know of a method to get back into an instagram account? I stupidly forgot my login password. I love any assistance you can give me.
@kenzoeddie6972
@kenzoeddie6972 2 жыл бұрын
@Kairo Davian Instablaster =)
@kairodavian114
@kairodavian114 2 жыл бұрын
@Kenzo Eddie I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im trying it out atm. Takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@notchboy
@notchboy 2 жыл бұрын
Is that LA? Salazar's is in San Diego.
@kcranny9375
@kcranny9375 7 жыл бұрын
You are definitely living the dream! Good on ya'!
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 7 жыл бұрын
I rewatched this video at home instead of in my work vehicle and I have to tell you guys this, it's spot on! I can't ever speak like this about anything, just not that astute, I'd be more "shot from the hip" but then again I'll never have my dream car but that's a story for another day. Any who, this guy, as well as many others featured here on Petrolicious, really "get it" when it comes to cars. Chalk this one up in the rafters of the Petrolicious Arena HOF!
@theoriginalrabbithole
@theoriginalrabbithole 5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and unique automobile! Great music and footage too.
@marcobonnet
@marcobonnet 7 жыл бұрын
With the music and the final scene it reminds me of Comedians in Cars getting Coffee. Great cinematography again.
@TheDarwiniser
@TheDarwiniser 7 жыл бұрын
stunning quality, both the car and the production, well done.
@Requiredfields2
@Requiredfields2 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining its quirks and features.
@Johnybulletproof
@Johnybulletproof 6 жыл бұрын
Your Videos are Simply Amazing , the Quality , The sound , the editing . 4:31 Felt like "DRIVE" from Thomas Winding Refn . Keep making Gorgeous Videos of Beautyful Speed Masterpieces !
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 7 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite cars on this channel. I love the "period" look...far from a show car...paint imperfections, dirty carb bodies, rust on the block, and past fluid dribble evidence. Exactly what you'd expect to find if you went back to its heyday and peeked under the bonnet at a racer. Shame it doesn't have the 300 SL engine - but I imagine the number of things that break would shoot up then, and I hate to think what repairing that fabulous injection system would cost. :-)
@hobbeezy
@hobbeezy 7 жыл бұрын
What a beauty, thanks Petrolicious!
@marcryvon
@marcryvon 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, another Tastefully done video! Kudos, guys.
@Retrobeemer
@Retrobeemer 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. It takes real commitment to drive something like that Mercedes every day. It sounds awesome with the Webers too.
@phillipmassie6552
@phillipmassie6552 5 жыл бұрын
I get it completely. Though I kept it garaged during the longer bouts of Fall & winter rain and snow The XK-120 was my usual daily driver. It was a well made reliable car, that smelled like leather and oil and was such a pleasure to listen to and drive, it made you a better driver. I never altered anything on it. Those 600 x 16.00 tires were not bad in the snow either. I couldn't imagine taking time away from all that to listen to a radio, or to have a vulgar TV screen in the middle of the dash. Thanks for the great share. P. C. Massie.
@nestorpalacios659
@nestorpalacios659 3 жыл бұрын
I go back to this video about once every few weeks. Full of envy
@donaldkress5760
@donaldkress5760 6 жыл бұрын
Most definitely one of the coolest Petro videos I've seen (although Derek Hill in the 250 GTO will always be #1). Great visuals, lighting mood, music and of course, that car! Great work, please keep them coming.
@virgilrytaar9083
@virgilrytaar9083 7 жыл бұрын
just the perfect film. Cathartic!
@motorhead69ification
@motorhead69ification 6 жыл бұрын
Glorious, I applaud you Sir !!!
@goodboybuddy1
@goodboybuddy1 4 жыл бұрын
Car and production... sheer poetry.
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 7 жыл бұрын
Not usually a Mercedes fan but in this case I'll make an exception. Nice work.
@yoyo11177
@yoyo11177 7 жыл бұрын
This is a legitimate and wonderful car show for youtube....and i love it. This is a geniune appreciation of the beauty of cars. I LOVE THIS CHANNEL Starting to get annoyed with these "Car Tubers" such as Solomodrin, Vehicle Virgin, Street Speed....click bait galores, and all about spending money
@jackallen6261
@jackallen6261 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, first the production quality of this video is superb! The opening scene is just amazing! I do not jest when I say you should seriously consider making a full length feature film with several of these stories (I would most defiantly include this one in a maybe more extended form) The evening scenes driving in the city are outstanding! I can almost feel the excitement in the air as I watch this. Very nice work!! Thank you!
@izzelyy3189
@izzelyy3189 7 жыл бұрын
Superbe car. Awesome video quality. Loved that :)
@alekos911z4
@alekos911z4 7 жыл бұрын
Another Petrolicious masterpiece. I wish I could give thumbs up more than once!
@scootosan
@scootosan 6 жыл бұрын
Totally Rad Machine, another fine example of what being a Car Guy is all about no matter where or what you drive....
@angelozhang7687
@angelozhang7687 7 жыл бұрын
Lovely car! I love the BGM of this one!
@RYFABGarage
@RYFABGarage 6 жыл бұрын
love this. ! The soundtrack of both the engine, and score shoice... cant beat those webers. :)
@Brian-ff7tw
@Brian-ff7tw 7 жыл бұрын
it smells of rich mahogany...
@exoticarauto
@exoticarauto 6 жыл бұрын
So cool! Thanks!
@camanraya4745
@camanraya4745 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best channel i have, one day i will have my dream car !!
@DANIELSCHMITTClassicCars
@DANIELSCHMITTClassicCars 6 жыл бұрын
Oh and what a beautiful car this is! Got one too, in Signal Red
@kim007250
@kim007250 7 жыл бұрын
one of the best to date
@Vincent-Vega24
@Vincent-Vega24 4 жыл бұрын
Man, the car looks amazing but it sounds even better!!!
@geothon
@geothon 4 жыл бұрын
1:53 Got to love the plugged coolant outlet hose.
@reidwelch8419
@reidwelch8419 6 жыл бұрын
My first car was a '55 190SL in the same color. It was a well-worn original in 1973, and the same green as this wonderful preservation/reiteration. Below the dark green were six earlier alkyd enamel paint jobs! The cars of this era aged in characteristic ways this video show up well. Mine still had the OEM Solex sidedrafts. They were a plague I could not, at 19, in the USN on active duty, deal against. They were both cracked across the venturi sections because a previous owner had removed and discarded the carb braces. The Solex bodies were priced at $1400 each (!) at that time. I did not know about Webers ,or much of anything. I only knew the 190SL was the car of my young dreams. I bought it, a pig in a poke, from a Navy chief from Columbia, SC for $1.400 and owned it for several years. When I passed it along to a new owner of more substantial financial means, I included all the NOS parts I had managed to obtain, including a $112 factory fresh steering wheel, from the Summerville, SC MB dealership. What a sweet and quirky car the 190SL will always be. This video and its production and the car and owner are first rate. Thank you, Petrolicious.
@colbybuchanan3348
@colbybuchanan3348 7 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video!
@mattishereforu6086
@mattishereforu6086 6 жыл бұрын
Stunning !
@ferris5150
@ferris5150 6 жыл бұрын
gorgeous car...even more gorgeous filming
@KnightDriveTV
@KnightDriveTV 7 жыл бұрын
Changing up the shooting style...definitely much needed. Definitely has more of a "story like" feel, versus a documentarian feel. I also like the in car camera movement. It takes me to the movie Bullit, where I felt like the way they shot in car back then felt so real. It was clearly a camera guy in the seat of that black Dodge with some fat, 40lb shoulder mounted rig movin around. Automotive cinematography got so stable with suction mounts and trailers that towed the actors around to look like they were driving. This feels more "real". Also looked like some crazy jib shots off of a moving vehicle...didn't seem drone-like...all very interesting and innovative for this channel it seems. Good stuff. Plus I didn't have to read the video....I hate to be American and want to hear english but....I do enjoy understanding the words so I can actually watch the video.
@vitokhait9696
@vitokhait9696 7 жыл бұрын
This video made me happy .
@kokokurniawan9206
@kokokurniawan9206 7 жыл бұрын
The cinematic is so great!
@VintageOutboardMan
@VintageOutboardMan 7 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much! Keep up the good work :)
@danekeeper1
@danekeeper1 7 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!I love the rear overhang and the general shape of your old Merc....the sounds and smells must be a real and honest experience...I'm Jealous.
@franciscovasquez4555
@franciscovasquez4555 6 жыл бұрын
Vicariously live the dream, during the video. I'm a huge fan of the channel
@kunstmol
@kunstmol 7 жыл бұрын
the car shows its age and history. perfect. perfect.
@UberLummox
@UberLummox 5 жыл бұрын
He says "I don't really understand how people got around in the mid 1960s based on the rate things break at". Obviously he wasn't around then to see how dependable and FIXABLE old cars were and still are. Fun video just the same.
@luisbalderrama8145
@luisbalderrama8145 7 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much.
@colejaneteas
@colejaneteas 7 жыл бұрын
Just stunning.
@SPcamert
@SPcamert 7 жыл бұрын
The addition of the taillight out just makes this entire shoot.
@bikesqump
@bikesqump 6 жыл бұрын
Love that he wears a helmet in his car, all the time, every time!
@alanaustin4337
@alanaustin4337 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool car, very nicely filmed as well!!
@Vampirebear13
@Vampirebear13 7 жыл бұрын
As ALWAYS this is EPIC.
@TheSeeka
@TheSeeka 3 жыл бұрын
Dude is living the dream!
@bigkahuna1950
@bigkahuna1950 7 жыл бұрын
I love this car and I like anybody who has the same passion for things mechanical, especially old ones with wheels. Maybe he was being ironic but in case he wasn't, I want the owner to know that cars in the mid sixties did not have issues with breaking down under normal circumstances. I routinely drove my cars at very extra legal speeds in those days and was never left stranded for mechanical reasons.
@JuanVargas-yq1rz
@JuanVargas-yq1rz 6 жыл бұрын
Loved it and learned somthing new.
@drew7223
@drew7223 4 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing.
@PiotrZmijewski1987
@PiotrZmijewski1987 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo!!!
@mdeissard
@mdeissard 7 жыл бұрын
J'adore !! Superbe vidéo. C'est Hollywood :D !!
@MrTimstaaa
@MrTimstaaa 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic car
@frightenedskillet1051
@frightenedskillet1051 Жыл бұрын
Literally just explained how I feel
@aleoimpala
@aleoimpala 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. Sound good too.
@therealgaragegirls
@therealgaragegirls 2 жыл бұрын
Love love love
@just_Cabbage
@just_Cabbage 6 жыл бұрын
This channel i love it!!!
@AlexNijv
@AlexNijv 7 жыл бұрын
great video great car
@Gearz70
@Gearz70 7 жыл бұрын
Purists, wrenchers, hotrodders, collectors, lifestyle aficionados, we all catched the same virus, Michael Potiker sure drives the dream and it suits him like a jacket, that's what it's all about. beautiful car, love the 2nd day mods.
@samsonian
@samsonian 6 жыл бұрын
Gawd what a beautiful car! Love the lines, love the engine note, love the colors...wow! Not sure that bucket will do anything besides keep your cranial contents from fouling up the interior (lol)...also LOVE the leopard print house shoes!
@XXx-ev8in
@XXx-ev8in 3 жыл бұрын
Great car so unique
@clann87
@clann87 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, this video has now gone up in the top 5 petrolicious videos.
@zoesbro1
@zoesbro1 7 жыл бұрын
That engine sounds so good
@bravolima7766
@bravolima7766 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome car ! Awesome movie ! You are the best... When I drive my vintage Merc, I dream you are filming me... for immortality ahahah
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are works of art. So much thought and effort goes into producing them that they are unique in their own way. As to the car, I was just getting interested in cars when the 190SL came out. I never saw or heard of one in "racing costume." They were lady's cars, uninteresting in the shadow of their big brother, the 300SL. I had no idea anyone would put Weber carburetors on one. The Solex 44PHH were considered more than adequate and much easier to set-up and adjust than Webers. When I moved to Germany in the 1960s the 190SL was not well thought of and inexpensive to be had. I certainly never heard of anyone interested in racing one. I guess that must have been left to the folks in southern California. I had a chance to buy one in the early 1970s and was not impressed after driving it, which is good, because even though they only wanted the equivalent of US$ 2k, I couldn't afford that as a grad student with a family. All that said, it is nice to see a car of that era being driven and the gentleman seems to truly love the car. It's very good that the suspension has been upgraded. I would hope the brakes have also been improved.
@MichaelPotiker
@MichaelPotiker 7 жыл бұрын
Bruce Boschek I lucked out... when I found it rusting away it already had the aluminum upgraded Alfin's on it :)
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 7 жыл бұрын
That's good! BTW, I love the exhaust note, too.
@MichaelPotiker
@MichaelPotiker 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's not necessarily the car I would have chosen if I was buying one at market price, but I happened to get very lucky and snagged this when it was rotting away with no tires and animals living inside of it. I have a Facel Vega Facelia with a V8 swapped in, which I was fine with as the French 4 banger is a HORRIBLE nightmare, but I just don't have the heart to motor swap this thing so that it's actually a performer as it's so original...
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a purist in any way. The Facelia engine was a horror and that car also languished away beneath the overwhelming attraction of the HK500. Dressed up the way your 190 is it takes on a different character and is more like the British cars of its time. That's a very good thing. How does the Facelia drive with a V8 in it?
@MichaelPotiker
@MichaelPotiker 7 жыл бұрын
The front frame on the Facelia was reinforced to tighten the steering as stock it flexes too much even with the Pont a Mousson 4. It drives FANTASTIC with the V8. I have the Buick/Rover aluminum 215 in it with a 5spd rover box and the motor was 300lbs lighter than the 4cyl with like 2.5x the power.
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