Moral of the story is don’t send your car to a slapdick garage. Do your research people,
@merlinelgato56385 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to hear a voice of reason . Lets face it, unless you run this kind of horsepower on a track or the Autobahn{ I've done both} it's a waste of money. Even a straight c6 will do for most people.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
You are so very correct. The limits are being pushed more and more every day even from the factory. I do think it's awesome to see but no matter what you do to yours there is always going to be someone with more...
@wanmacedo5 жыл бұрын
I’m a C6 z06 modified, I’m totally agree with you, that’s a BEAST
@dylancoric37344 жыл бұрын
You think stocks the next best thing? I only have 30 K & want to get the fastest most fun thing out there... prob a stock C6 Z06
@j.c.35984 жыл бұрын
True. Moddes a 2009c6 base. 800 to wheels w superrcharger, cam, intake, headers, ...fast as ###. BUT... hot...rough...smelly...etc...sold it. Stock 2009 z06. All stock. Not even a tune. I love it.
@dylancoric37344 жыл бұрын
You prefer the stock C6 Z? I’m looking to get a C6 Z going from a Mustang GT but I’m worried about traction
@j.c.35984 жыл бұрын
@@dylancoric3734 Yes. I prefer the stock. Plenty fast. Smooth. Doesnt smell like fuel and keeps its cool. Mine doesnt have launch control..but it is available in later models.
@yungtooli3 жыл бұрын
i like the smell of fuel. but maybe thats just me
@paulletchworth81275 жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 zo6 , and lots of mods and 150 shot , bought the car , the owner before me had manual switched to auto , everything done top notch looks factory , all work was done by RPM of Garner , N C , stage 5 rpm trans , black on black , love it , you have some awesome cars love watching great content !
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Sounds like you have a bada$$ car, congrats!! 👍
@badassvette15422 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you bought a bad bitch
@Sir.VicsMasher5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest, most KZfaqrs never admit things like this.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@johnvigolo49722 жыл бұрын
Reaffirms my views of upgrading camshafts & one should tread with extreme caution before going down that route. Generally one sacrifices drivability over minimal gains in hp, which is not worth it unless usage is primarily for track events. In most cases, head work, including an exhaust upgrade with the factory camshaft followed by proper tuning is all that is required. Would strongly recommend that you refit the factory camshaft. It would make an interesting video on the notable differences experienced on the drivability issues & I’m sure you will enjoy driving the C6 a great deal more. With the C6 Z06, one can achieve close to 600hp without a camshaft change & that is more than enough. With so much torque from the massive 7L engine, there is no need for more. It is already a handful in stock form on the road in dry conditions & would be downright dangerous to drive in the wet, especially on the track. I remember a well known professional US race car driver that test drove a stock factory C6 Z06 on race circuit many years ago & strongly recommended to NEVER EVER turn the traction control off. The only worthwhile mod for a street only car, would be a short shift kit to eliminate that hideous long throw in gear changes that feels like your a are driving a truck instead of a Z06. For track events, a brake upgrade, the achilles heal & main complaint of Z06 owners, followed by cooling system & suspension upgrades. The last thing on the list should be any performance upgrades & sadly, this is where most people go wrong by making it their first upgrade.
@harryharry3193 Жыл бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL one should.. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL diverse crowd ownership.....most "might" be better off in a 3 series BMW
@steveowens9132 жыл бұрын
The stuff he's getting into at the last part of his video reminds me of comments that my long term mechanic made when I considered getting my C6 Z51 modified by my Corvette Master Tech. His comment was that GM made my particular car exactly the way it should be! So, after buying a C6Z06, I sold the Z51 car to my daughter. And for an incredibly great price!! Ditto on a C7 with 7k miles to my son in November. Corruption of my family!!!
@whip31lash2 жыл бұрын
Great video man. The only thing people know how to do is boast about upgrades/HP etc with any car. No one ever takes the time to tell people what lays behind all that. Im not a vette owner. To that effect, I owned a 1991 300zxtt, with 15k under the hood. 600rwhp and 654 torque. Owned it for 3 years. The car spent at least 400 days in the shop(engine has to come out to replace turbos), waiting for parts, back to be retuned, back to replace another part, on an on. I to, had minimal experience driving a car with that kind of power. I did hammer the throttle many times and almost died because of it. Yes..when you're tires light up at 60mph on rwd car...you better know wtf your doing. I eventually got comfortable with it but could've easily killed myself and others in the process. It was fun pulling away from exotics at 70mph, and the rush was intense. That said, I would never ever ever do it again. ROI was horrible, I may as well have flushed most of the 15k down the toilet. Since the car spent so much time in the shop...I was forced to drive our family car which was a BMW x5 at the time....uggh. Not mention the constant fear that came along with "how long will it last before I'm back at the shop". If you have deep pockets, patience, and the sole intention on using your modded bad boy on weekends, etc. Go for it. If money is a factor, and the car is your DD, think twice about breaking the bank for that showboat because you'll find yourself on the tugboat. Good stuff man! Im here because Im looking into buying a c6z but clueless about reliability and cost to hit the 650whp mark. This time, I anticipate the worst and hope for the best.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction2 жыл бұрын
Very well said! I sold my car to a buddy and he now has it pushing 600 at the wheel and it seems to be going strong (a couple years now). 650 should be realistic and still reliable enough for a toy. Good luck !!
@badassvette15422 жыл бұрын
Obviously you didn't know swat about cars. That car was a $$$ pit. And a POS!
@BensonBMD5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 with the x pipe and the one cat. Last Friday I think that I had a potential value guide issue. Turned it off and have a deal with American Heritage for new heads and cam. Thanks to Mike for this video.
@Standyourground212 жыл бұрын
My last two builds took two months and of course I had to add more money to the build. That’s normal in the performance world of adding mods to your car. There’s nothing like the sound of a cam and I love it. We all have to add more stuff to beef up the car because it’s going to break at some point. Good on you to mod because stock is boring. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@gjodexter4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I modified my ZL1 to 840 motor with the intention to go to 1000. I have sense changed my mind. It’s too much now for the street. Now don’t get me wrong, its a roller coaster ride every time I drive it. On to the next car. Great video.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@OuzoLouGarage6 жыл бұрын
It's worth it if it make you happy . Zo6 sounds great
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
ouzo lou thank you!
@SuperbMoves5 жыл бұрын
Did you sell your C5?
@mariek69935 жыл бұрын
Eventually want supercharged c6 z06. Realize i wont get that money back on the mods, but im ok with that and i plan on having some fun at the track with it.
@browningbelgium23263 жыл бұрын
Every word you said is true. I have a C5 Z with a mild build: 434 RWHP 502 HP. It's a true daily driver with no issues in 2 years. Sounds awesome, performs awesome, and looks awesome. Thanks for the honest approach for lots of people. They need to hear this!!
@johnnymoran11776 жыл бұрын
Just did a BTR-4 in my C6Z06, its ornery as heck to drive, but it made 628/540 with fbo and sounds like a beast!... LOL.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine
@badassvette15422 жыл бұрын
You did it right!!!
@sandyk66573 жыл бұрын
I just added a mild cam to my C6 Z06 that had all bolt-ons and the heads milled and ported. It was making 526rwhp with the stock cam. The car drove perfect and had a smooth idle. After the cam swap it went to 562rwhp. There is not a huge difference in the performance, but I do notice a change in the drivability in that the car shakes now at idle. Yeah, the lope sound of the cam is pretty cool, but I don't care for the shake. It doesn't buck or surge, but it requires a little more clutch at maneuvering speed - maybe. I would say it drives like stock, but there is the shake. For that reason, I am not sure I would do it again for a 36rwhp gain. From what I understand, a big cam would be way more shake, bucking and surging - no thanks.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction3 жыл бұрын
Ya a cam is definitely going to do that....sounds great and probably not a big deal if you aren't going to drive the car that often
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
stock Diff on the C6z's are about indestructible. The TR6060 doesnt have issues either... the only thing holding ya back is the stock clutch above 650-700whp
@nickadkins77655 жыл бұрын
Well he has the t56 06-07, and the rear ends were weaker on the 06-07 C6Z's. Go 2008+!!!
@dylancoric37344 жыл бұрын
Zeek sheparzo more traction tbh
@Vffr14 жыл бұрын
This is second video I've seen of yours. Very impressive/honest commentary. I currently owe a Scat Pack Charger and I love, love my 392. The sound, the torque and the ZF transmission are just amazing. I considered getting something else and was looking at many different options from a C7 GS to a GT500. After many test drives I found (for example the C7) to not be as fun/thrilling as my current 392. So for now, I've abaonded the idea of getting a different car. I'm old skool (late 50's) and prefer staying under 600hp in a N/A configuration. In my travels, I've come to realize that the 500-550bhp range is really where the sweet spot for street performance is. Over 600bhp you are diffently into more of a babysitting mode than enjoyment mode. All the best. Triple.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm glad you're enjoying the scat pack, they are amazing machines!!
@nyplantingsgardendesigners56454 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I have the engine out of my supercharged C6z after roller lifter issue. Half a mind just to take the oem crate motor and place it into the car...sans supercharger.
@mariek69935 жыл бұрын
Great points.. dollar for dollar you get the most from a "stock" car. Especially on newer cars, you get no money back from your mods.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
So true. We modify for our own benefit 😁
@hallertyler385 жыл бұрын
Just bought an 06 Z06 with 4890 miles, great car, scares the hell outta me but most amazing car I’ve ever bought
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Congrats...they are amazing cars and definitely the best bang for the buck. I hope you enjoy...
@delmarbarry87226 жыл бұрын
Great advice on the mod topic, i completely agree.. But from what i read on the corvette forums the heads should be upgraded even if you are driving the car lightly.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Del Mar Barry ya that's what I have heard too. Thank you!!
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
Much agreed. It's the hollow exhaust valve and extreme angle that the rocker puts on the valve which bends it. The fix is new guides and exhaust valves
@gbass7328 Жыл бұрын
Yes you would have based on other bad valve stories…..no worries now or for a buyer. Mods? Use ZR1 parts ie clutch.
@bailey9r4 жыл бұрын
On the flipside I have seen 7s drop a valve sitting at a red light and trash the motor and you now have peace of mind.
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean anything. You're assuming the owner of that car pampered it. You have no idea. Also, let's not pretend that some shop has no skin in this game. They have engine upgrades they want to sell you and the labor to install them, and most shops will be just as happy to take your money whether you actually need the upgrades or not. I'm not saying there isn't any issue with the LS7 heads. But misinformation on the internet is pretty easy to come by about the scope of the issue and the simple fact is NO ONE has better information on this problem than GM. But GM has not entirely been forthcoming, it would seem.
@sulkmahidonkeydek34244 жыл бұрын
bailey9r that’s a lie, so what you are saying is just about anytime you’ve seen a z06 (which are a somewhat rare sight) all happened to drop a valve in your presence? Bullshit!
@rickymcu3 жыл бұрын
Lol. This guy! LS7’s dropping valves at red lights 😂. The internet is a funny place.
@bailey9r3 жыл бұрын
@@sulkmahidonkeydek3424 Hey I was trying to make him feel better about spending so much on the upgrade. And no LS7s aren't so rare in Miami.
@jeffreybeane55235 жыл бұрын
I like the video just bought a mint condition 2009 ZO6 with 17,000 miles on it. Car is bone stock and runs great. not looking to modify it . fast enough Wish I could get more info about the heads. If I need to have the heads replaced then so be it.
@nickadkins77655 жыл бұрын
You better do it, because it's either fine or not and then you have a blown $10k+ engine. Just do it.
@JustACarGuyNamedTom6 жыл бұрын
That Z06 was for sure worth it for the back roads and highway pulls haha
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Just A Car Guy Named Tom you know it 👍
@threehemis55665 жыл бұрын
I agree the headaches I went through modding my bike I would have definitely not started all this. now that I'm done really happy with what I did. With my planned purchase of a vette now I'll either just get a used Z06 with the work done or leave it stock and be happy. 505 hp really more than I'll ever use.
@AmerijamAcres5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. I can understand the perspective. I’m looking into a C-6 and I think I’ll wait for things to break before going crazy with the mods. Of course I say that now but I know myself well enough to know I would probably get things done sooner. That spiral you spoke of is real.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Yes modifications can be addictive. The C6 is a great platform, I think you will be very happy. Best of luck!
@steveowens9132 жыл бұрын
Today is March 29, 2022. I bought a C6Z06 in Dec of '21, an '08 with 6,020 miles on it. I had the "Do I need to do the heads fix on my car? It's my 6th Vette, and I am a conservative driver...The talk was with an Atlanta area Corvette Master Tech. He has loads of experience, and he does lots of performance stuff. But his answer was a simple, NO. I'll take my chances. I knew of the potential problem from the get-go. Got into Vettes in 1995. So far it has been terrific!!!
@ChaosViper672 жыл бұрын
@@steveowens913 the simple fact is the company that GM used to machine the heads did not machine the valve seats concentric to the valve guides so they wear prematurely. The fix(new guides, usually bronze but varies by machinist) is not a big deal and will save you from potentially dropping a valve/ruining piston(s)/cracking a sleeve(s) which can then crack the block. Which the LS7's are currently on backorder from GM so you would be in a pinch and be looking at an exponentially higher expense and increased downtime. It's happened to cars that have been pudded around and hasn't to stock cars beat at the track. Don't know until you check the play in the valves.
@Reviewing_Playing_and_More_RPM6 жыл бұрын
wow loved this from the moment you started your video, incredible...Sorry you had troubles with it though, kinda takes the fun out of it a bit... For me same thing applies to a computer, it's cool to tweak it and get faster speeds, etc...
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Reviewing Playing & More RPM Thank you...yes it's fun when you're passionate about it
@stevepilkington31815 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe there are 2 douche bags on here. I bet u have a hellcat that u just look at and wish ur balls would drop so u could drive it one day. Stick to the v6 mustangs.
@gambit_toys65545 жыл бұрын
I drove z C6 Z06. IT'S A MONSTER STOCK. It's so fast you can't even drive it fast on daily roads. People can't even see you, it accelerates so violently fast.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
They are fast in stock form but I think the thing is that we get used to the power and it becomes a little less impressive. Basically fast is relative but bang for the buck they are great cars!!
@gambit_toys65545 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction absolutely! Best value
@rickymcu3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a bone stock C6Z. Lots of good info here. Thanks!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your purchase!!
@jeffrakunas6635 жыл бұрын
If you still have the car, put Toyo Proxes R888R on it (345/30/19). I have everything you have with a stage 3 CAM and they easily handle the power without spinning.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
I sold the car but had the Toyos on it 325s and they hooked very well. Thanks!
@MarcoAntonio-rc9sd4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Rakunas does your car every heat up after driving it for a long time like say a 3-6 hour drive with those cams ?
@kevinbreese57396 жыл бұрын
You just need a smaller cam, bro. My H/C/I/LT 08 Z06 was 570rwhp when I bought it. Quickly swapped to a true baby cam (slightly bigger then stock) and now 510rwhp with a beefy power curve, and it's a relative sweetheart in traffic. Drove in heavy traffic on the belt parkway for an hour and no big deal. Also since it has the stock clutch still, No worries about needing a bigger clutch. Many people who still want the car to be a nice driver (but don't think about it as they hear promises of how nice it will drive) make the mistake of going too big of a cam. Oversize cams ruin the experience for many every day car guys who get caught up in numbers and youtube roll race video's. For most, the car is still stupid fast with a baby cam, for a street car.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Breese actually now that I have driven the car more and even in some traffic I like the cam pretty well. It has a nice aggressive sound, makes good power and stop and go isnt an issue. So far the clutch is holding up great and I suspect there shouldn't be an issue. It's also good that I dont drive the car more than 500 miles a year but if i had to i could daily this vette no problem. Thanks for the info and for watching!!
@bobbybacala14694 жыл бұрын
you must be in NY cause i use the belt sometimes myself. you can still retain good drivability with a relatively big cam, my friend is at 590 to the wheels on a GT21 cam and mods and his tuner in Long Island has his car running really good. Car is plenty fast for most anyways. Hope your enjoying your car and hopefully catch ya on the belt in my Z. Love the Orange btw.
@Sandy-oy2lr6 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2013 and I decided the 505 scares me enough. I've rarely gotten up to 7K as around where I live, and the car's acceleration is already so violent, I'm up on traffic I can't even see down the road. And I got stuck on the GW bridged for 3 1/2 hours.Then drove another 3 hours to the NJ Motorsports Park. If I had that HiPo cam, I wouldn't have survived it. The cam doubles the hot idle speed and drops idle torque, from what I've been told. Unlivable in heavy traffic. IMO, the factory did the car perfectly.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Sandy yes I hear ya...the quest for more can be never ending which leads to frustration and a much lighter bank account
@Sandy-oy2lr6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, imho, THE BEST upgrade one can make to these cars once the OEM GY EMTs wear out is to put on a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. They absolutely transformed the car for only $1700. Improved handling, acceleration, stability, steering control. In fact, on of my HPDE instructors thought I had the Z07 package when he test drove the car to make sure it was fit for the track. In fact, in Road and Track, they tested one with the Michelin SP2 Sport Cup tires and got 0-60 in just 3.4 sec. That's spitting distance of the ZR-1. All these cars need is traction with a capital T.
@MarcoAntonio-rc9sd4 жыл бұрын
Sandy interesting
@whatsupwithsteve4 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction Tell me!!!!! I'm at about $15k right now but I wanna say it's worth the investment...for me anyways! I think 540whp is plenty (maybe too plenty) for the street. Any more would mean beefing up other stuff and not getting traction any way!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
@@whatsupwithsteve yes that is a lot of hp for the street. Guess its human nature to always want more
@RustyZipper6 жыл бұрын
I've had half a dozen guys call me out for not modifying my Z06 after debuting the wrap. My response is: when 0-60 in 2.9 seconds feels slow and when I can consistently outdrive the car then I'll modify it. Until then; I'll just have to make do with the 650 (crank) HP.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Rusty Zipper I see absolutely nothing wrong with that 👍
@patrickm5364 жыл бұрын
Videos like this what looking for honest opinion. I wanted to install 660hp package on 2015 z/28 and other guys say don’t do it and wished kept their z:28 stock. Hell I know 2 guys sold them after not being happy with their cars.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is something to consider
@motorgearhead5 жыл бұрын
I have an 2007 Z also, making same power 550ish to the tires. I have come to the same conclusion that 550 is enough. Yes it spins and the big cam is no fun in heavy traffic but omg it’s fun to let it eat! I had C5 with vortech V3 supercharger before the C6 Z. Bottom line is you can go down the rabbit hole where each mod requires addition mods to other parts of the car to support the initial change. It can almost never end unless you say this is it. I’ve reached my goal and I’m willing to live with the monster I’ve created. If I had a good C6Z that I didn’t want the bad driving habits of a cam/head setup I’d put a low boost vortech setup on it and it will make 600 plus HP and drive like stock until you put your foot in it. You’ll spend probably $8K. A&A Corvette makes fantastic kits. Can’t say enough good things about them!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Well said... how did you like the V5 with the SC?
@motorgearhead5 жыл бұрын
Extreme Automotive Addiction - I’d put another on a C5 in a heart beat. Your C5Z should make about 525 to the tire with about 9lbs using a V3 si head unit (stock LS6). The kits were about $6K last I checked.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
@@motorgearhead thank you, that's a ton of power for a C5. I actually sold both the C5 and 6...I now have a C2 but would really like to get another C5Z
@motorgearhead5 жыл бұрын
Extreme Automotive Addiction - agreed, 500 plus is enough. The C5 is probably the best used sports car deal to be had. Chevy moved the bar up a couple of notches with the development of the C5 over earlier offerings. Good luck with the hunt! I’ll look to see a future video on the next C5 when it happens. If you happen to need hardened drivetrain components check out RPM transmissions. I ran a hardened trans and diff in my C5.
@abradic3 жыл бұрын
I think the better question shouldn't be would you do it again...but rather would you ship it to a shop like say Katech to have everything done? Would you choose your shop wiser? That's not to say anything bad about the place you used, but places like Katech, WCCH, AHP, Lingenfelter seem to be a smoother process based on what I have read from the famous internet! I'm guessing if you didn't have all of the hurdles...the delays, issues, and then not getting the car ready to go...if it was smoother maybe you would have said yes? I have found that sometimes it's better to bite the bullet and send it to one of the top places.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction3 жыл бұрын
Well said and I couldn't agree more 👏
@badassvette15422 жыл бұрын
Performance shops, will rob you if you're a dummy
@dougb37406 жыл бұрын
I have a stock 2015 Z/28 with the Ls7. I keep hearing about the valve drop issues on all the LS7. So I ordered a set of LS7 Heads that have been totally reworked and ported. So that’s the only thing I plan on doing to my car. No cam for me. Also I’m going to keep my stock heads.
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
its the guides. they wear out. the force that the rocker arms put on the valves makes them wear out. too much play in the guides leads to valves walking all around the seat and eventually bends the head of the valve back and forth. The fix is to get SOLID stainless steel exhaust valves and new upgraded guides.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it also depends on how hard you're going to push the motor
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
Nope. They break under normal use/within warranty all the time. We also assumed that cars that were babied would last but it didnt seem to matter in our experience. The guides arent too much of a surprise as GM has put countless bad guides in their heads for a long time now. IE the ecotec heads
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
There's all these "claimed" fixes like the trunion (sp?) Upgrade or different ball bearing rockers ...but nope. It's the valve guide/hollow valve stem combo
@dougb37405 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information Zeek. I plan on having American Heritage Performance fix and port my heads. I’ve heard really good things about them.
@pcm73154 жыл бұрын
This guy would last about one day as a used car salesman.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the complement 👍
@johnnyturbo84605 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty.
@steveorules62626 жыл бұрын
I hear you Mike and sometimes you don't have room for both of them and you have a boatload of money between the two. Honestly I would keep the C6 ZO6 over the C5 because in my opinion you'll never see that 427 cubic inch motor in another Corvette again. That alone sets it apart, you can buy 350s out the yang but that 427 once it's gone it's gone. Also you have a car now that's going to challenge you and it's naturally aspirated. I just figured I would chime in my thoughts here because I owned a few of them and believe me I have regretted selling them and the first chance I get I will buy another one or the only other car that I would be interested in buying would be a C6 ZR1. Anyways best of luck to the C6 ZO6, don't question yourself what you had done to it because I have seen those valves drop and grenade those Motors at just about any RPM you were a smart dude to get it done when you did. Best of luck to you.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
SteveO Rules thank you so much! I'm thinking the same about the C6... as much fun as the C5 is I'm confident it will be the one to go
@kevinbreese57396 жыл бұрын
Man that's ridiculous what you dealt with at that shop, especially for how much money you spent. You entire perspective would be different if you weren't dealing with idiots. You are a very nice guy who is extremely forgiving and patient. Hopefully you have better experiences with a better shop in the future.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Breese thank you, now that it is all done and over with I'm good and glad I got it all done. Definitely look forward to a better experience next time
@marcost81244 жыл бұрын
Nice z06! Just started watching your vids. Showing love from LODI! 209
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the channel
@SStripp3d6 жыл бұрын
345/30 Toyo r888r will solve ur traction problems....and you'll still be able to take turns hard and even drive in the rain
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Sean Chavarria thank you, I will definitely check into those
@54728126 жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
that or Nitto NT05R's ...even NT05's (if you drive in the rain much) they'll last 10,000 miles and are about $560
@joeblow76346 жыл бұрын
I'd keep them both,traded my c5z06 in for a hellcat and missed my unique looking 2003 z06 within hours,never see a vet like the c5z again probably all of them will be hatchbacks except for convertibles, just my opinion.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
joe blow I hear ya...just don't need 2 Z06s...would rather sell and get yet another toy 👍👍
@raubinger556 жыл бұрын
4 seconds into the video. I've been excited and waiting for this I'll let you know what I think
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
bigwilly94 please do
@MyMotorsca6 жыл бұрын
New to your channel and KZfaq, really enjoying your channel, thank you.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Tillsonburg Cars Inc thank you for the sub and for watching 👍👍
@nikromamusic5 жыл бұрын
a great and honest video, thanks so much!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@dmraco4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Loved listening to you. I have 2008 Z06 and will be replacing the heads. Heads only and not the cam. I do not want to impact drivability like you said. There are both ported heads and non ported heads. I was going to go with the ported and give a few extra HP. Do you think most of the you drivability issues were due to the cam?
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Oh ya it was definitely the cam. And actually it wasnt bad to drive even with the cam. Best of luck!!
@traind5 жыл бұрын
I like your practical analysis. Perhaps a less aggressive cam would have been better or skip the new cam altogether? Maybe just H & I and a tune would give you about 500 at the wheels and that would mean less wheelspin and better driveability...
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
I ended up putting new tires on it and got it to hook really well
@adnanjavaid986 жыл бұрын
Very informative and knowledgeable video thanks for the advice awsome! By the way i own a c6z 2007 and iam going threw the same mods as we speak, oh and iam from stockton California!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Adnan Javaid I think you will be very happy with the end result 👍
@TheRdub826 жыл бұрын
Next time take all your LS needs to GP Tunning in Hayward. You won't regret it.
@abualzuaree5 жыл бұрын
I live in Hayward and will be getting a C6 Z06 soon, might have to go check it out
@mdelgadoz06184 жыл бұрын
Synergy or Jrg Motorsports also great options in the bay
@michaelwilliams55064 жыл бұрын
do y'all know of a good one in sf or the peninsula, esp the San Mateo area?
@mdelgadoz06184 жыл бұрын
Michael Williams Gp tuning is in South San Francisco
@clintarbogast94312 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!🤘
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@DjsOutdoorServices4 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to make a full video of the car idle ling and couple revs and pulls with the mods pleas and thanks!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
I would happily do it but I sold the car some time back. Guy I sold it to has done more mods since. If you want to give me your contact info I can pass it to him and he could probably accommodate you?
@SirHC8886 жыл бұрын
This guy Josh sound like the previous owner of gtpro.
@anewzack785 жыл бұрын
O.o the 3000gt??
@mongolk1ngl0g1c35 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks.
@89dimedrag5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the shop you in to is a really shady shop but I do fully agree in what you're saying on the modifications of the Corvette in how after you put the Cam in it wants to buck in traffic! That does suck! But overall I wouldn't have my Corvette any other way I love the power delivers the camp set up I have Frankenstein heads it's just a really fun car all around thank you for the video!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@marcanthonystorm6 жыл бұрын
You should keep C6 Just upgrade your rims to black Forgestar CF10. You will like it so much more. You’ve seen my Velocity Yellow Z06. Trust me. TOYO T1R Tires Are excellent
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
MarcAnthonyStorm - Corvettes917 I did end up keeping the C6. Got some Mickey Thompson et streets coming...same size as what's on it now 335/25/20. I'm thinking and hoping the car should hook well
@paulletchworth81275 жыл бұрын
By Mickey Thompson drag radials it will hook then
@paulletchworth81275 жыл бұрын
Buy
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
@@paulletchworth8127 I got some drag radials
@michaelboisselle85906 жыл бұрын
Not only reliability but also resale, i of course have way more money into my 99frc than I would ever be able to get back, be careful with the street slicks, more traction equals more stress on the drivetrain, either way do a twin disc clutch and never dump the clutch
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Ya I cant ever see dumping the clutch, I'm more of a "roll into it" once I get it moving kinda guy. I'm pretty happy with the performance and think I'll just leave it alone. Thanks for the comment
@jjones25096 жыл бұрын
I like the c5, c6 and c7
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
j jones agreed...actually if it's a Corvette then I'm pretty happy
@redhotredbirdramair74866 жыл бұрын
Did you go with a lingenfelter cam? I pulled a GT 19 out and went with a new grind profile from CBM motorsports that delivers the same performance without the surging. It's awesome to drive like a stock setup and still have the idle lope. It,s actually quicker to 140 mph with this cam. The Michelin are crap. They hook up good when first purchased but throw rubber at an incredible rate when you put the torque to them. Put a set of Nitto,s on it and you will keep it on the road. Nice car though, What stereo head did you put in it? was it compatible with the steering wheel controls? thanks for your input hombre
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Red Hot Redbird Ram Air I'm not sure of the spec on the cam but it is a little jerky down at low RPM. I'm planning to get some TOYO drag radials soon so it should hook better and the head unit is Pioneer...it does work with the steering wheel controls. Thanks for watching!!
@g.d.44363 жыл бұрын
Nice vettes...sounds great... I've subscribed.
@Curveball4 жыл бұрын
For your C6, try out the Proxes R888 tires. There are cars with more HP than yours that can hook with them. 2000+AWHP TT Lamborghini's run them in racing events like King of the Street and the standing half mile events. But between the C6 and C5, what do you like better about the C6? (Edit, I just noticed the post date of this video. lol)
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
LOL ya I went with the triple 8s and definitely a great hooking tire. I actually went back to a C7 grand sport and love it....missed the C7 platform more than I realized
@Curveball4 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction Ok man, glad you came out happy.
@DjsOutdoorServices4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good
@z06king2 жыл бұрын
Turlock? I grew up in Coalinga, nobody has any money. What business are you in to have that dream garage? So I can tell my son what to change his major to. LOL
@mr1710095 жыл бұрын
I’ apologize if I missed it, but I don’t recall you saying that it was tuned after the H/C install.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Ya it was tuned after all the mods were done
@gabrielhissong50494 жыл бұрын
You grabbed my attention. What’s the story behind that fan hanging up on your wall?
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
I think at the time I was moving those box fans around the shop to try and find a godd spot for them to be effective
@MC-uj4co5 жыл бұрын
I have the same thing..mine will break lose at 70 mph..i enjoy mine...you need two..a stock one and a moded one..
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Once the new rear tires were put on the car hooked well but I ended up selling it. Now I have a C5 Z and a C2
@MC-uj4co5 жыл бұрын
Extreme Automotive Addiction nice...
@darrend20355 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter you would have still have to had address the engineering defect with heads 4500 rpm or 6000 rpm blah blah doesn’t matter The casting and the material was not designed properly nor was the measurements on where it counts NOW you could’ve spent Less if you just would’ve went with only fixing the head issue 👍
@ChaosViper672 жыл бұрын
It's not an engineering defect. It's a machining error. The valve seats are not concentric with the guides so they wear prematurely.
@youngestson65375 жыл бұрын
Yeah. People fail to realize. That Corvettes are very fast already from the factory. It's a Corvette.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
True but it seems we always want more...
@mcm954036 жыл бұрын
You should never drop it off to be worked on till the parts are there and ready to install.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
I agree and was told they were when I dropped the car off but obviously that was not the case. Next time I'll make sure and see them with my own eyes
@lg740xx5 жыл бұрын
They let you leave the shop with it running like crap and a CEL ?? Wow, great shop !!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Ya I hear ya. The shop went out of business shortly after I had the work done
@kevinbreese57396 жыл бұрын
Michelin Pilot Super Sports are awesome tires, and are quite sticky. What size are your rear tires? Are those 20" 360 Forged wheels? If they are 20" then you must have the ZP tires which are runflats with very stiff sidewalls and don't hook as good as the regular MPSS tires and ride like shit. I also have 360 forged 20x12.5's and run Nitto Invo 345/25/20's for their ride quality. No great tire available for these size wheels right now.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Breese ya I had the run flats... have since upgraded to a set of Toyo drag radials 325s. Car hooks quite well but I would have loved having some 345s on the rear...
@catsharkvids74756 жыл бұрын
Sweet ride!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
catsharkvids thank you
@youngpolli88765 жыл бұрын
Bruh tsp has like 2k heads 1300 cam kit wylin paying 7k for all that
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Ya I got screwed. Shop ended up closing down and left a lot of people hanging...sad state of affairs
@bailey9r4 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction WOW Mike I didn't know you were bilingual ;
@rhsxo5 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way with my Prius!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Ya it's really the same. Now you're constantly wrenching on the Prius where as if you would have just left it stock you would have no worries
@mikewarren67742 жыл бұрын
Being in California I'm having to non-op my car because of mods. What are you doing?
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction2 жыл бұрын
Email me at mdh5169@yahoo.com
@z06king2 жыл бұрын
And what model is that quad door, Mopar is it?
@bitchpayme2876 жыл бұрын
FOR ANYONE THAT EVEN THINKS ABOUT GOING TO STARKWEATHER PERFORMANCE IN TURLOCK CA, SAVE YOUR TIME AND HEADACHE AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK!! I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS OUT THERE AS I SPEAK THAT WILL SAY THE SAME!!
@TheRealDarthVadar2 жыл бұрын
Put a better tire on it those super low profile tires aren't great for traction put a smaller wheel on the back with a set of Mickey's
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction2 жыл бұрын
I put some toyo r888 tires on and it hooked very well
@dansager16086 жыл бұрын
Nothing hotter than the lines on a C5.. I'll walk across the street all day long for a closer look at a C5 but a C6, not so much......and yes I have a c5 so I'm a little partial. The c5 with just a little tweeking just looks sooooooo badass.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Dan Sager ya it really is a badass car
@kevinbreese57396 жыл бұрын
I had a C5Z and then upgraded to a C6Z, They both can look badass but the C6Z definitely has the edge in most people's eyes. Funny, was just at The Vette Doctors which is a popular corvette shop where I live that has been around forever having a conversation with one of their techs who sees all these cars day in and day out c4, c5, c6, c7 and said nothing beats the C6Z. Granted, that's one man's opinion as is yours, but I've heard his opinion so much over the years from so many people. They can all be made to look amazing in the aftermarket.
@motorsportz80405 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbreese5739 C6ZR is the best looking corvette ever and no the catfish face C7ZR is not.
@Mechanic835 жыл бұрын
Is the c6 for sell or did you already sell it ? I’m in Bay Are
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
No I'm sorry, I sold it some time back
@ahmedal-mawlani52846 жыл бұрын
wrong shop makes mistakes replace nt05r
@JosephDAndrea01215 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the run Flats. No need for Drag Radials. Good non-runflats will blow your mind compared to even the good pilot sports.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
I put Toyo 888r on the rear and the car hooked perfectly. Then I sold the car, but now have a set of the 888 on my C5 Z06, they are amazing for hooking up
@henrycruz45cal3 жыл бұрын
6 weeks and not even ordered. I would have walked away on principle.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction3 жыл бұрын
Ya it was a bad experience for sure. He is no longer in business...for obvious reasons. It is a shame!!
@MrGflan6 жыл бұрын
Hello, did you feel it was less torquey down low with the cam upgrade? I’ve heard others say this. Have you pushed it past 5 grand also? I’m looking at a stock Z06 and don’t really want to modify it and just leave it as is.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Gary Flanagan oh ya a lot more seat of the pants with all the upgrades. I have pushed it now to about 6700 and it pulls strong all the way up. They are amazing cars. Mine is for sale at the moment. But stock they are amazing
@MrGflan6 жыл бұрын
MDH Automotive ok thanks!! You think someone can be satisfied keeping it stock? I modified my turbo Mini Cooper to about 280hp at the wheels in a 2600lb car, the torque is a lot of fun around town. Nothing like the force of a vette, but im just tired of trying to make something into something it’s not by mod mod mod. Lol. Hopefully the C6 z is the answer to my seat of the pants power needs.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Gary Flanagan oh ya lots.of.people enjoy these cars in stock form and they perform incredibly. I think you will be happy. Just try and get one that has had the head issue taken care of
@badassvette15422 жыл бұрын
@@MrGflan mini cooper? Compared to a vette??? Man up dude!!!
@MrGflan2 жыл бұрын
@@badassvette1542 wow this was 3 years ago. I was in denial back then. That mini was a lot of fun because it was very torquey and small car, but since I got my 2007 Z06 and it’s on a whole other level!!
@nateyzf6 жыл бұрын
That shop sounds like a freaking nightmare. I would never use those fucksticks.
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
nateyzf it all worked out and they are good guys just perhaps a little mismanaged... actually I understand the shop is shut down right now. Hopefully they will figure things out and get back on track. They certainly know how to build horsepower
@tomr66666 жыл бұрын
You're foolish to say you wouldn't have those mods done again, that it wasn't worth it! You now have peace of mind of not having to worry about it sucking a valve!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Tom R true but it's doubtful I would have ever had any issues with the car either way
@totaled2rebuilt8184 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction It could happen at 10k or at 65k I've dropped the valve at 65k and now getting new motor and heads done!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
@@totaled2rebuilt818 ya I think better safe than sorry plus the extra hp and tq were definitely an influence
@whatsupwithsteve4 жыл бұрын
@@totaled2rebuilt818 Dropped mine at 50k, Chevy covered it. Had the heads/cam/etc done at 75k and loved it. Then at 76k did E85 and another tune. Then at 78 was having hard starts when hot so since I had it in the shop did MSD manifold/103mm throttle body, fuel pump and 1050x injectors...plus another tune....right at 540whp and that's PLENTY for me!!! Not much grip in 2nd any more...:)
@totaled2rebuilt8184 жыл бұрын
@@whatsupwithsteve What was the the problem with the hard starts when hot?
@rogelio75245 жыл бұрын
great video
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@christiancardoza73316 жыл бұрын
Nitto 555r
@gregwilliams43804 жыл бұрын
Listen, it pays to do the research 1st. Race Proven Motorsports is the place for your C6 You get a stage 3 package which will be a set of worked Advanced Induction heads, 2" Long Tube Headers, Ported MSD intake, 102mm throttle body and B3 Cam with there professional tune. On pump gas it will put out 630-650hp to the tires well over 730+ at the crank being a completely daily drive dependable car with all the power you should want! Professional workers that would have had your car back to you in a week or two at the most! Check there site out. RPM has a KZfaq channel as well with loads of Z06 content
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@badassvette15422 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction bull shit...in a week or two!!! Ha ha ha That's means 2 months.
@markbays-6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Is the c5 modified?
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Mark Bays thank you. I believe the V5 had a CAI but it sure sounded and ran strong. Ended up selling it right after I did this video
@DjsOutdoorServices4 жыл бұрын
Cam and heads*
@treallz38016 жыл бұрын
Met you at starkwheather..car is amazing !!
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
Thank you...in the long run it was worth it. It's a shame Josh isnt still doing business
@treallz38016 жыл бұрын
MDH Automotive I honestly didn’t like josh I didn’t want to get into detail but story short he played me in so many way when I was getting my cameo tuned that day
@treallz38016 жыл бұрын
MDH Automotive but glad he got your Vett done few ppl had there cars there for months smh
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
@@treallz3801 I'm sorry to hear that. I would definitley agree that he wasn't good on the business end but they sure knew how to make some hp
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction6 жыл бұрын
@@treallz3801 ya mine took almost 6 months which is way too long but it's done now and all is good
@DjsOutdoorServices4 жыл бұрын
What can and beads did you put in
@ExtremeAutomotiveAddiction4 жыл бұрын
I actually couldn't tell you. I ordered everything thru the shop that did the work and have since sold the car along with all the paperwork. Sorry!