bro what

5% of high elo 😂

@@WinterBoots15 the server that had the full cheat thing for roller had a LOT of people in it and a LOT of people shared that so i highly doubt 5% of people were using it because it only took a few minutes to setup because funny guy probably made a rat executable to do all the work for the braindead idiots that actually spent money on it lol it was even leaked on github for awhile idk if it still is so yeah idk where 5% of high elo came from im sure low elo was at least 5% and high elo probably had at least 25% of roller players using some sort of cheat or multiple but tbh that number is probably higher towards 33% or more but id guess a lot of people on roller had logic and saw that this was cheating just as much as any mnk macro or other cheat is so its theoretically possible less people used it then this but i promise you the people who used it actually thought it was ok 99% of the time because of the bad mnk scripters that give mnk a bad name it got so bad this guy made the whole cheat to emulate mnk cheats basically thus giving a 100% legal reason to use this at the time so a metric TONLOAD of people just said yeah this is totally fair and started abusing the hell out of it so again i dont see how with this info and how popular it got that only 5% of people were using it in high elo thats just pure cap

So does this mean superglide config is banned ?

@@draksato687 Technically yes. But for ppl that use keyboard macro for it are completely undetectable. So its banned but there is no way for the game to prove whether you are cheating or not. Imo the superglide macros are fine because it still requires skill to initiate one. The only difference is now you press one button instead of 2 which removes the FPS dependency of it if only by a little. I believe the main problems are configs with neo strafing and other movement tech that a real player cannot do

i mean they essentially did, unless you want to run around running the game at 30fps all the time good luck hitting a frame perfect trick in the middle of a firefight at that point it's basically luck

Me and my homies been hitting glides at 90 - 144 fps depending on which you talk to. it's genuinely just a skill issue.@@AnAshenSpirit

@@AnAshenSpirit I learned legit on xbox at 60 fps. Its not terribly hard.

​@@AnAshenSpiritdefinitely not "basically luck" . skill issue if you have trouble. just practice more

@@AnAshenSpirit you can get super glides consistent at 144 fps easily. The only thing that would hold you back is if you have a crappy keyboard like mine that can not hit super glides, other than that it is a skill issue.

Its much harder at high fps actually low fps u have a much bigger window to hit it

pick up a Mouse thats literally it

@@kyumo what if they remove tapstrafing on mnk to

@@Savagepsykr666 why would they do that?

theyre kind of doing that... theyre making one of octanes evo upgrades a tap strafe essentially when you use his jump pad

picked up a keyboard recently. TS isnt the hard part, its chaining lurches. All the left, right or backwards TS you did on roller are just lurches on keyboard. I dont think they want to put lurches on roller, But a forward lurch would be huge.

at what point of the video ? i'm curious to see that

@@CosmicLF first 15 seconds, very smooth tho so I could see how you missed them

​@XTheCat Oh yeah I see that now it was very clean and creative actually love that thx

@@XTheCat The goal of a transition is to not see them

@@Koriiiithat’s not necessarily true.

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You can still partially do that on steam. Holster weapon is a 1 click for me, which is so much better

@@dudeimdudely7477ya but i think he’s talking about console

Yeah PC players get all these crazy movement techs available to controller and MnK with no downside, meanwhile console players have to choose between not being able to reload next to a door or a downed teammate.

Get a keyboard lol

@@ToaRanen7to be fair aim assist is super strong and this is coming from someone whose used a controller their whole life. If they just nerfed aa at the same time as giving us remapping and other accessibility it would be closer balance than we’ve ever seen

just wish you could turn AA off without going into those crazy ALGS controller settings, I don't care about the jaw of my analog stick response curve or whatever.

To remove aim assist while moving mid air would feel really clunky. I say just nerf it. The longer they delay it, the harder it'll be to shift from the current aim assist. Ironically I recently just spent time changing my controller configs on my steam deck so I could get the ability to tap strafe on controller and even then I had to sacrifice my ability to climb and tapstrafe because it was on hold a. I really love the ability to tapstrafe on controller and it's a shame to see it being removed as a byproduct of serious exploitation of the mechanics

How bout get rid of aim assist entirely. Im feeling generous today, console gets 0.2 aim assist, pc none at all. Fucking sick of seeing of trashcans have pro level aim when they dont even know what aim training even is let alone done it ever in their life

i can only wait for them to improve solo queueing (squad filling vs matchmaking)

@@leandrofod Simple would to just replace duo mode with solo. Duo and trio are so similar and nobody in my region can even find a game on duos so there's really no point in keeping it for Oceania at least. Since day 1 the game released I couldn't find a duos game

I will not reveal respawns stand on Supergliding. I don't think it should be made "easier" but should be turned into a consistent timing window independent from FPS

absolutely. the timing window for high fps is actually outrageous. Its at the point where limits in actual hardware can be responsible for messing up the timing. @@Mokeysniper

Idk console aim assist is already way better than pc aim assist

i mean console could get mnk support regardless of whether it can compete with pc or not. Also how do you expect respawn to fix fundemental hardware problems on console that cause a gap between pc and console with software

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Tbh console 120 fps for the next season will close that gap because their aim assist is already 33% stronger than us it wasnt a problem since their frames were low but now that it is actually decent they would would 1 clip us so easily, well the new gen players that is, old gen is unplayable because they don't get stable frames, they average 35-50 frames and they have massive input delay because of vsync, i remember playing ps4 it wasn't fun at all

"Its unfair to be able to do something that another input cant do." Its just as unfair that M and K players alone can tap strafe as it is that roller PC players could use jitter aiming, instant box swaps, neo strafe configs, etc. Period. Full stop.

probably difficult to do that without somewhat touching recoil smoothing so respawn wont try willing to bet

Nope, they are the same thing, jitter aim is just "recoil smoothing a little more".

Watch the video

@@Mokeysniper😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You're glad the no recoil and absolute abuse of configs are gone. This could have been removed without completely removed without removing basic lurch tech but...no. And you have of these M and K players saying that even the basic lurch tech was cheating (whilst they themselves can still do it). Just really sad, I haven't played apex since the change.

@emmang2010 I 100% agree with you. I wish they gave controller is the free roam instead of giving such careless changes. Particularly Mokeys comment on superhuman lurches and such is such an exaggeration since the lurches are simply easier to pull of as a result of the convenience of controller movement itself and isn't an exploit that needs to be removed from controller. I especially want to see the doors controller tap strafe could open but with this approach it seems thay we're only getting further and further away from that outcome. furthermore by nerfing the aim assist, it would essentially need a lot of players to rewrite their muscle memory. I'd be completely down just giving mnk aim assist. if they're planning to nerf aim assist, at least fix how inconsistent it could be in certain scenarios as well as touching up the ALS settings so you didn't have to look up on reddit what are the level equivalents to get a ballpark of sensitivity.

Was it that often? I heard a lot of complaints about neo strafing but I never thought it was that big of a problem for some. What are your stats? Like hours in game and kd? Maybe it's because of sbmm that I didn't encounter that much of neo strafers.

@@maxburmab7962 Yeah I play for about 8hrs a day and used to see it at least once every game, most games 2 or 3 enemies would neo strafe. Ive got about 4000 hours and a KD of about 3.8

@@maxburmab7962I’m in pretty sweaty lobbies (who isn’t lol) and I’d see it ab 3-5 times a day, during the course of like a 5-6 hour session. Some days weren’t so bad, other days that were worse, ya it’d be almost every game, ironically I’ve only seen it once now, and you can tip your hat and say Ggs bc you know that dude was legit. Feels real good :) Ps I love movement, actively practice lurch tech / neostrafing and do not have a problem facing someone who is manually doing it bc it is hard af and respectable lol

@@maxburmab7962 i didn't see it too much in br but in mixtape modes i would usually at least one player neo strafing. Not sure if it affects anything but account lvl somwhere in 300s and kd this season 1.7 (idk if thats just br kd or what but that's what it showed)

Ya, mixtape was where all those fuckers "practiced" their configs@@LAGGERGaming-ji7gr

I think you can still do +exec autoexec you just can't chain multiple cfg files together anymore

No because that’s not automation. It is an advantage, but not an automated one. Similar to getting a better monitor or better pc.

it is automated stop being lazy in ur comprehension you automate the delay@@ovalfps

I wouldn't say changing actuation points would automate movement, something like macros and cfgs automate it, not actuation points Automating a movement is when you get something to do it for you, changing actuation points doesn't do the movement for you it only makes it so its easier to hit

​@@notus97 I mean considering the superglide works on a 1 frame delay you could just put crouch and jump on adjacent keys and give the crouch a different actuation point so flatly pressing on both keys does the super glide action. That's basically automating it.

@@wenr4479 but that doesn't automate it? You still have to time the button press, yes its easier, but with the script you only have to scroll down, it limits frames and presses crouch and jump. Thats way different?

Just play mnk

@@evo4gplus i started playing in season 0 on console so i have fun playing with the controller, id still play on it if there wasant hella input lag

@@justinthgod7191 too bad automating processes are now considered as cheating

@@evo4gplus If aim assist were to be nerfed hard, would It be ok if controller players could tap strafe?

@@Thawcc_ automized processes in competitive gaming should not be allowed no matter what People should demand the controller to have better options or better performance rather than asking the game to give them advantage for having a worse input. You don't see people with an office mouse complaining about input lag and asking for aim assist. Why won't controller users ask for an addition of a scroll wheel instead? Gaming mouses and keyboards have been innovating for years to be even better while controllers couldn't even solve the stick drift issue for decades. If the controller added a scroll wheel or something similar so they don't need macros or configs to do the process, then it would be okay. But I don't think either aim assist or tap strafing should be in the game in the first place.

that might be slightly harder to fix... and is constantly being patched out but people find new workarounds.

Everything should be fairly easy to do but hard to master and understand. New players should be able to go in the range and tapstrafe once. Ive seen people quit the game because they felt like they arent even able to compete. That shouldnt be a thing. If you witness a better player it should motivate you.

Get rid of aim assist then, no game is competitive if you got ai doing everything for you

And play in PC lobbies i suppose? I do not like that idea Because rn console "players" who stack 2 consoles + 1 PC and dominate by jumping in close range 24/7 at least need a pc friend. And there is A LOT of these players in high tier lobbies, I wish that was adressed as well, then again aim assist is nerfed from 0.6 to 0.4, HUGE THANKS for that

@@Bambam-if you need to rely on aim assist why are you asking others to get good? brain damage or

Man they should have nerfed aim assist not tap strafing. Tap is an important part of the culture of the game and aim assist is OP right now.

@@MD-gx4bw it wasn't to remove tap strafe in itself, it was to remove configs as a whole, from neo strafing configs, supergliding configs etc, tap strafe nerf was just a by product, its not possible to just exclude that, but yeah i think everyone agrees that this round of changes to roller is an indication that ea should start bridging the gap between mnk and roller instead of slapping aim assist as a fix

Why not just build the features into the game instead of requiring launching options and cheating

this isnt necessary, you can tapstrafe redirect to tapstrafe in directions you arent looking at even with only a scrollwheel = forward bind

You can’t lurch with aim assist anymore

actually i dont think so, it isnt really a aim thing its a recoil thing they'd just have to adjust how recoil works. tbf tho it is respawn so u might be right them ngas might some how break the game

@@rTeku yeah but i guess we'll never know

@@rTekujitteraiming is linked to aim smoothing, if you adjust that you can fk up smoothing so respawn definetely has to work on the recoil thing

@@ilodabomb oh idek what aim smoothing is I thought all mnk aim was raw Input

@@rTekuaim smoothing has nothing to do with input, it is when you have 0 recoil when you move left and right, rollers can do it too.

obviously its more than possible for them to do it, i just wonder why they havent already. Maybe they dont little timmy and jimmy to see octanes doing complex lurch strafes in console lobbies?

@@redpz so true ... like it was hard to believe a multi-billion dollar company could fail to have cross platform and they were happily advertising some feature that has been there since like maybe the 2000's . But the fact that even Halo : Combat Evolved - a 2001 game has both controller and KBM shows how much EA cares about their player base . Anyways , I digress .

@@phyxolatle i think its more like they choose not to allow mnk on console rather than not implementing it

then whats the point when some dude who has no job and doesnt touch other humans has 80 hours a week to practice it and you get put into his game? just buy cheats fr

​@@pleasediscord1605that's the problem of sbmm, nothing to do with movement techs or hacks

why not just buy a normal keyboard and plug it into ur laptop, thats what i use to do

@@pleasediscord1605 might as well aimhack too, animal.

or just let us keep cfg files so we dont have to go out and spend another 60 bucks on a free to play game. @@rTeku

with their current definition. yes it's cheating

all macros are cheating in apex

Noob

@@Mokeysniper okay thank you, cuz everyone is hitting it so consistant that i was starting to think "yo this cant be legit"

@@FatboiReborn bro i was just asking?

PREACH!

@@Bambam-least delusional controller player.

@@Bambam- turn aa off before you talk about skill lmao

That doesn't solve any of what was mentioned here, and that completely gimps crossplay.

@@DreadCore_ it gimps crossplay but it does fix most of the problems. The problems are mnk vs controler problems. No mnk vs controler = no problems

in my opinion, since its not automated, its not cheating. you're still inputting it yourself. though I get how it feels like its "cheating" since it makes supergliding way easier and more consistent

@@napsy27 we have to start seeing this as black and white, since Respawn stated that software, hardware or firmware of 3rd party nature is not allowed, there for it's not allowed, done deal. you can't skit around a rule stating "well, i'm still doing it myself, but actually my software is doing this for me, but i'm inputting the things myself" a broken rule is a broken rule regardless.

No its not. Its literally the same as changing a keyboard to one with a lower switch, changing LOD on a mouse or changing monitor refresh rate. You are not automating anything to get advantage over other players

@DarkDyllon sorry if this comment gets repeated since YT is deleting my replies. OP's question about having just all 0.1 actuation point is probably perfectly fine, as what it does is basically making your keypresses way more responsive. My comment, however, is addressing the use of these customisable actuation points to make supergliding easier. What people do is set their actuation points for jumping and crouching in such a way that it helps you jump first, then crouch. Note that its still very dependent on your inputs as even with this you can still press crouch first. You can have a similar effect by flipping your spacebar so that you can press your spacebar first, then your crouch (if its on C or V) more reliably. Its kind of like an advantage of a better hardware such as having trigger stops on controllers, I'd argue. Respawn said that "automation of game mechanics is not allowed". Therefore, their current stance doesn't say anything about it. Seems like we just need to wait and see.

@@napsy27 Same as changing keycap height or literally puting your finger at a different angle. If 1 button does 1 action - not cheating

nah it's caused by repetitive motions / constant use. I'm sure bad ergonomics make it worse but you can still get RSI from jittering all the time

@@fakekat really? I've been jitter clicking for 6 years now for minecraft 1.8 pvp which is similar to jitter aiming and ive never gotten any problems

We got some haters

@@Juuz_ understandable though. I have never been neo strafed and honestly, i've been seeing more MNK players do some ridicilous movement tech that I couldn't even dream of achieving with controller. (I only used tap strafing on controller for some basic things like a wall bounce into mantling the wall, or strafing around a corner) meanwhile now controller has been nerfed so hard that if we got someone behind us, chasing us, we can't get away since if we slide jump of a stairs to build speed, we're left in the open, instead of making a quick strafe left/right to go around the corner, breaking line of sight, they can do it easily, so why can't we? all the MNK andies who complain controllers are OP always just point at Aim Assist, meanwhile AA isn't even that insanely OP, if someone does movement tech they can easily outpace your AA and then some, hell, for most people who don't know how to abuse the AA system to the absolute max will be hindered if people start to move quickly, since they try to compensate, but their AA will also compensate which ruins it. and knowing respawn, they're gonna call it a day and be like "we did our duty, the game is rescued" I do agree that the differences between roller and MNK should be diminished more, give us a way to tap strafe, allow us to move in the looting menu. (we can still do that btw, if we just bind WASD to the d-pad for example, but that would disable the entire d-pad for me) meanwhile jitter aiming on controller still works perfectly fine, so the only thing they did was disable neo strafing, which I for one never had happen to me, seen it happen to some through videos, which yes suck, but ban those people, make it public and you'll see a lot less people use it in general since doing that can and definitely will get you banned. (doing actual neo strafing isn't possible unless you can quick tap every button so many times a second that you can rival some of the faster button mashers in the world) also, they could easily just now allow scroll wheel to be bound to WASD, imagine that, not AUTOMATING many WASD inputs past 1 single input, oh the irony. (some will even go as far as to get rid of the stopped in the scroll wheel so it rolls till it just stops naturally)

tldr pls@@DarkDyllon

@@DarkDyllon A lot of yapping with no sense.

Any macros will now get your account banned if they are detected. It's fully considered cheating now.

No

yes, but no. but mostly yes

I hear people saying "no" but I don't config so idk for sure, hopefully though

I would assume it's possible. But they specifically said in their tweet that using software solutions to make stuff easier is against TOS and bannable. So if you do it and get banned then it's your own fault.

that’s how the steam overlay typically functioned for anybody not using configs to neostrafe before they got rid of the lurch