Mom says Masterpiece Cakeshop refused to put rainbows on daughter's birthday cake

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Denver7

Denver7

6 жыл бұрын

The case about a wedding cake for a same-sex couple in Colorado will have its day in court. The Supreme Court will begin oral arguments in the case December 5, it was revealed Friday.

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@sharonabbott2219
@sharonabbott2219 6 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced the lady who said she wanted to order a " birthday cake" is lying. Nobody orders a 17 layer cake for a birthday, that's way too big. And with a rainbow, too? Either she actually wanted the cake for a gay wedding and was trying to trick Jack, or she really knew who he is and was just another mean person trying to harm his reputation. Take another look at the cake that she ended up buying instead. Does that look like a 17 layer cake? I don't think so. What did she do? Uninvite a bunch of people to the party?
@beckygould7509
@beckygould7509 6 жыл бұрын
I know rainbows are a gay symbol. But it's not always, it was a symbol of hope long before it was a gay symbol. God put a rainbow in the sky as a promise to Noah .
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd haha Hawaii is gay
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd it’s just a joke
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd... why do scuba divers fall out of boats backwards?
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd... because if they fell forwards they’d still be in the boat
@idontknowwhatiamdoinganymo1615
@idontknowwhatiamdoinganymo1615 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd they’re not dumb jokes, they’re Dad jokes.
@jesuschristislord6858
@jesuschristislord6858 6 жыл бұрын
Oh she didn’t want to be identified, tells me enough 😏
@johnjacobo
@johnjacobo Жыл бұрын
It’s called freedom to privacy
@alyssagreen8111
@alyssagreen8111 5 жыл бұрын
Just please leave Jack alone! The poor guy has already been through so much! Have strength Jack. God is with you and works all things for his good!
@redbrick341
@redbrick341 6 жыл бұрын
I assume he was trying to distance himself from the modern meaning of the rainbow. I could be wrong. Regardless it's his right to practice his art as he wishes. The constitution doesn't guarantee you the right to force someone to bake you a custom cake. It doesn't guarantee you the right to have cake at all. It provides a framework of freedom that encourages expression and entrepreneurship. There is a massive attack on that framework taking place. If you remove his freedom of expression, he will stop providing cake altogether. How is that good for anyone? He doesn't want to make your cake, so you see to it that he can't make your neighbor's cake. That's called selfishness.
@bdavis8397
@bdavis8397 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is a homophobic idiot who chooses to discriminate under the guise of religion. There is no defense for stupidity. The world will be losing nothing if he never bakes another cake.
@paveldaman1820
@paveldaman1820 3 жыл бұрын
@@bdavis8397 If nobody want's his cakes, then why are people willing to sue him over not making them cakes?
@beckygould7509
@beckygould7509 6 жыл бұрын
I also want to comment to the lady who said she made well done steaks for people even though she doesn't like to. I didn't realise that how a steak was done was such a moral dilemma!
@KimiKitty-rp7li
@KimiKitty-rp7li 5 жыл бұрын
becky gould o
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 4 жыл бұрын
lol moral dilemma? well maybe the way she cooks steak the steak starts off smelling real bad. or maybe shes a vegetarian. but its weird she tries to compare cooking steak and baking cakes
@doidoi8544
@doidoi8544 5 жыл бұрын
She wanted her identity hidden, she’s lying and a coward
@johnjacobo
@johnjacobo Жыл бұрын
U must know her dooo well
@jamescollins3970
@jamescollins3970 5 жыл бұрын
MOTHER OF GOD..... STOP BOTHERING THIS MAN!!!!!!!!!! HE IS ALLOWED TO SAY NO GOOD LORD
@nutballs7885
@nutballs7885 5 жыл бұрын
LEAVE HIM ALONE
@baizawai
@baizawai 6 жыл бұрын
....... why is this news?
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 2 жыл бұрын
because the cake maker’s shop was closed for about a year because he wouldn’t make the gay wedding cake and ended up being sued and he even went to the supreme court and finally got his shop opened again.
@mt.lagunatimelapse311
@mt.lagunatimelapse311 6 жыл бұрын
17 layer birthday cake?!?!?! First world problems lady.
@cherp7522
@cherp7522 6 жыл бұрын
Where is the problem? Just go to a baker who will do what you want. That's what the rest of us do.
@TheSmackdwn
@TheSmackdwn 6 жыл бұрын
Cut the crap with trying to bully and target this man! SMH you should be ashamed of yourself.
@mt.lagunatimelapse311
@mt.lagunatimelapse311 6 жыл бұрын
A well done steak is way different than having a cake with a symbol on it.
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
The woman has done the right thing. Don't like it, Go some place else to buy your cake.
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
I was referring to the part where she decided not to shop there again.
@mikegarber5530
@mikegarber5530 6 жыл бұрын
keep your faith ...#PrayerWarriors we got your back...GOD has everything
@Tony-bv7gz
@Tony-bv7gz 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Garber God has everything except food and clean water for the 8 million children under 5 who die ever year from lack of. Ask UNICEF
@Tony-bv7gz
@Tony-bv7gz 6 жыл бұрын
John Sterling if I gave $1 it would be more than Jesus has ever done for them.
@ianalan4367
@ianalan4367 5 жыл бұрын
The irony is that the gay couple that put Masterpiece Cakeshop in the lime light (and people like this woman) are literally increasing this business profits exponentially. Not unlike the boycott against Chik-Fill-A.
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 4 жыл бұрын
i dont think the boycott did anything to chick fil a. i think chick fil a during and after the boycott they were still making the same huge amount of money.not more and not less
@6StimuL84
@6StimuL84 6 жыл бұрын
Called freedom of association and the RIGHT to not be a slave....
@cnccarving
@cnccarving 6 жыл бұрын
forget religion or anything one single thing freedom youre free to ask rainbow, im free to don't make it.. I don't have rainbow color,, done you don't like its your own social problem
@solelyliving9204
@solelyliving9204 6 жыл бұрын
cnccarving does that mean I don’t have to pay tax simply because it falls into my category of “gambling”?
@PHOTOGRAPHYBYDEREK1
@PHOTOGRAPHYBYDEREK1 6 жыл бұрын
The woman who complained preferred anonymity and was interviewed, but we didn't hear Jack's side of the story?? Hmmmmm....
@misha-rt2hg
@misha-rt2hg 5 жыл бұрын
She is lying 17 cakes layer for a bday
@kennethbowers2897
@kennethbowers2897 6 жыл бұрын
1:28 there is a difference between simply cooking a piece of meat, to meticulous graphical designing, whether on a piece of paper, or a pastery. Stupid people making stupid compare and contrast scenarios. That sort of garbage makes me cringe.
@MrDuffy81
@MrDuffy81 6 жыл бұрын
The good guys won again! Chalk one up for God, Freedom and Justice!!!
@usmcvet78_54
@usmcvet78_54 6 жыл бұрын
You're a prime example of why more and more people DESPISE you so-called "christians." You're nothing but a HATE FILLED BIGOT! Take your "god" and shove him up your ass!
@heyayup
@heyayup 6 жыл бұрын
"Good" guys buahahahhaha how can you be good when you have a heart full of hate and prejudice? bye
@theresaroadcap9639
@theresaroadcap9639 6 жыл бұрын
Some USMC VET you are, nothing but a disgrace to the corps.
@theresaroadcap9639
@theresaroadcap9639 6 жыл бұрын
Who said anything about hate. That comes from the Liberal/progressive/communist
@heyayup
@heyayup 6 жыл бұрын
Theresa Roadcap the hate is visible, or else why not just bake a cake and get on with your life
@robertcornelius3514
@robertcornelius3514 6 жыл бұрын
I'm only half-Gay, but I would have wanted a Rainbow on my cake, or at least half of it.
@koenraadtspreekt
@koenraadtspreekt 2 ай бұрын
"The woman who didn't want to be identified" -- the abusive mom who abuses children.
@abbypepper2867
@abbypepper2867 6 жыл бұрын
go to another bakery 😩already
@patsywilliams5709
@patsywilliams5709 6 жыл бұрын
Quit whining and go somewhere else. Damn it people! Just walk away and go somewhere else
@liannapfister8255
@liannapfister8255 6 жыл бұрын
This...sounds 100% fake
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 4 жыл бұрын
well it is abc news
@dzook2904
@dzook2904 6 жыл бұрын
Making and serving a steak is not even a close comparison to designing a gay wedding cake. Marriage was designed by GOD between a man and a woman. And this man would have gladly gave them something else but no they insisted on that cake. I truly believe that they had an agenda to destroy this man.
@johnjohnson9915
@johnjohnson9915 6 жыл бұрын
She probably wanted a pro-homosexual cake.
@Baldisbeautiful48
@Baldisbeautiful48 6 жыл бұрын
Again, he doesn't do rainbows... Omg! Why can't people respect his beliefs. Everybody has the right to practice their beliefs unless your a bible believing Christian, they don't have rights...
@johnjacobo
@johnjacobo Жыл бұрын
Jack Phillips didn’t understand the customer is always right
@MrDuffy81
@MrDuffy81 6 жыл бұрын
HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS!! WHO THE FUCK CARES?? HE IS THE ONE WHO IS LOSING THE MONEY! HE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY NO TO DOING ANYTHING FOR ANY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEAVE THIS MAN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS A VERY NICE PERSON AND HIS CAKES ARE DELICIOUS!!!!! MY FAMILY SUPPORTS HIM. YOU ALL ARE DESCRIMINATRING AGAINST HIM.
@vreedlak7268
@vreedlak7268 6 жыл бұрын
No. He's a bigot who discriminates in violation of the law. What a horrible human being.
@johnmark150
@johnmark150 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he is nothing but a hateful bigot. Will he also refuse to bake a cake for adulterers or women who have had abortions? Because I'm sure they would violate his religious beliefs too. He is a baker, not a preacher, so do your job and bake, without discrimination.
@295Phoenix
@295Phoenix 6 жыл бұрын
+MrDuffy81 No, he can't.
@MrDuffy81
@MrDuffy81 6 жыл бұрын
RACIST? MY WIFE IS BLACK YOU FUCKING MORON. SHE IS A MUSLIM. I'M MULTI CULTURAL. GAYS WANT DOUBLE STANDARDS AND THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM ENTITLEMENT LIKE THE AMERICAN BLACKS. I DO NOT HIDE BEHIND A BIBLE EITHER. I STUDY RELIGION AND I KNOW WHY MY COUNTRY IS SO FUCKED UP, AND IT IS THE MASSES OF IDIOTS BEING PUMPED OUT BY THE LIBERLA CONTROLLED MEDIA. YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT THE TV TELLS YOU, YOU PARANOID PARROT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MrDuffy81
@MrDuffy81 6 жыл бұрын
HEY, I AM REALLY HANDSOME! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. EVEN THE GAY GUYS CHECK ME OUT, AS GROSS AS IT MAKES ME FEEL. AND IM FUNNY! FUCK YOU!
@hintixmotivation5852
@hintixmotivation5852 5 жыл бұрын
What you would do defines you nobody else! Philips doesn’t care whether you would do it or not because they are paying customers! That’s why the Bible says that there’s 2 ways, the compromisers’, the broad path, the radicals, those who follow the Bible and God’s commands
@asahel980
@asahel980 6 жыл бұрын
BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY , He's case in SCOTUS. him baking a rainbow could affect it and kinda sensitive to do it,regardless of the real purpose.
@LittleBenjaminNeocon183
@LittleBenjaminNeocon183 6 жыл бұрын
Go somewhere else then. Damn, it is not that difficult to understand. If they don't want to make your cake find someone who will. Stop crying about it.
@upstatenewyorkrailfan6775
@upstatenewyorkrailfan6775 2 ай бұрын
Leave that poor guy alone
@xxvorlandxx52
@xxvorlandxx52 6 жыл бұрын
17 layers of rainbow cake. Holy fudge that is not only going to take more than a day or two to make but it would be a pain to decorate after and stack up into tiers. I hope she means thin layers.
@dyannehorton6848
@dyannehorton6848 4 жыл бұрын
LEAVE THIS MAN ALONE. If your not happy there; there are a lot of bakeries the, go somewhere else. Who the hell are you that think he should obey you. GROW UP.
@themadlad8540
@themadlad8540 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see there is still sane people in Denver.
@kalakalim4081
@kalakalim4081 3 жыл бұрын
Just a Karen
@misohoney1660
@misohoney1660 6 жыл бұрын
Watch the video. It's not about discrimination, hell it's not even for a wedding. The lady asked for 17 fucking layers of cake. For a child's birthday. And rainbows all the way through. At the end they mention they do rainbow colors on the outside, but they don't do rainbows internally. Think for a second how much dye it would take to mix into the batter of 17 different layers of cake. What they're doing is taking two separate accounts and presenting them as the same issue, linking them because "Rainbows = Gay". Despicable reporting.
@SylvainSybaris
@SylvainSybaris Ай бұрын
I support the baker 100%.... but if the Dem/Lib court forces him to make the Dem/Lib cake, then he should make it with NO sugar and lots of salt.... The cake should be so horrible that the Dems & Libs will choose a different baker..... SPREAD THE WORD!!
@dashmatt7445
@dashmatt7445 6 жыл бұрын
Strange he doesn’t want to do a rainbow cake but he has freedom
@paulrock4816
@paulrock4816 6 жыл бұрын
You can not make a person do what his heart tells him not to. If a man is true to his faith, & beliefs his heart is his judge, not the court of youtube. If his heart convicts him to do or not to do, who am I to say he is wrong. Everyone must do what he puts in his own heart. Comments below tell me people want to force him to do what he said he will not do? Is that the right way? The court or no court I will still do what I am convinced of, in my own heart.
@kyletiedje6864
@kyletiedje6864 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Rock God bless you my friend very few Christians stand up for what's right, I myself must admit I have cowered so many times rather then doing what God has asked of me. but no loner it's time we stand up as brothers and sister in Christ one family in Christ and people need to hear God's love and salvation and repentance that is i Jesus Christ our Lord and savior, as for me I will stand with God, for if God is before us, who then can stand against us, God bless you my friend and take care.
@RJ-bm6lm
@RJ-bm6lm 6 жыл бұрын
exactly is all these gays that are trying to bring this poor man down this lady couldve went somewhere else but because she wants to be on the news she didn't
@sr2291
@sr2291 9 ай бұрын
What do rainbow layers on the inside mean? Could someone please tell me? This idea of common symbols being changed by religious people to have meaning for all of society is frightening.
@befirmbefair6674
@befirmbefair6674 6 жыл бұрын
Slow news day, ABC 7?
@dougn2350
@dougn2350 5 жыл бұрын
The Supreme Court also sided with Citizens United. The Supreme Court gets it wrong sometimes.
@daniely2125
@daniely2125 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but on this particular matter they were spot on
@lightningbrigade257
@lightningbrigade257 5 жыл бұрын
I promise you that when I purchase a cake from masterpiece bakery I will give a big tip to keep my Christian brother in business.
@Yetaxa
@Yetaxa 6 жыл бұрын
This is not about discrimination This is about the product, not the customer No business should be forced to create a product they don't want to make That said, this is kinda stupid. Its just a rainbow. Not even fully gay stuff
@SevenDeMagnus
@SevenDeMagnus 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, don't put anything that's against your religion. No rainbows, they've ruined the meaning of the rainbow. God bless, Rev. 21:$
@brodypereira970
@brodypereira970 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn't make any sense. Denys a same sex couple a cake but will unknowingly bake cakes for couples who have had premarital sex etc. He doesn't know whether or not he's selling to a person who is anything he is against unless they tell him. Like congrats you played yourself.
@lennytompkins9767
@lennytompkins9767 6 жыл бұрын
Cake Nazi: "No rainbow for you! NO RAINBOW!"
@jerrykrause4458
@jerrykrause4458 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, Jack no more should be expected to created a cake that he does not otherwise provide, than a Muslim operated Mexican taco restaurant should be made to make "pork" tacos that it otherwise does not provide.
@wolf2966
@wolf2966 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance that you know didn’t have any at the time...
@bennydarko
@bennydarko 6 жыл бұрын
This one is actually more of a stretch cause it's a rainbow not a rainbow flag. Still, at the end of the day it's his right he's exercising.
@koenraadtspreekt
@koenraadtspreekt 2 ай бұрын
Son's cake, I presume.
@dougn2350
@dougn2350 6 жыл бұрын
Can't do rainbow layers inside the cake? This baker is a just weird.
@SevenDeMagnus
@SevenDeMagnus 2 жыл бұрын
What if a customer, says put swastikas and hitler's image on the cake? Or anything muslim- there's the true test for those who oppose Masterpiece Cake (God's Masterpiece, is what I think their name is conveying) and could eat their words.
@_.ChildOfGod._
@_.ChildOfGod._ 5 жыл бұрын
The lgbt rainbow is not the same as a real rainbow; the one God put in the sky. Lgbt rainbow has 6 colours whereas God's rainbow has 7.
@marianamoreira181
@marianamoreira181 6 жыл бұрын
When a shopkeeper refuses to answer you for any reason, go away! Dont' feed the troll, now these pig is famous, a martyr and rich.
@atheistsrnumber1
@atheistsrnumber1 6 жыл бұрын
funny since the pigs support the couple
@zzulm
@zzulm 6 жыл бұрын
Does she has any proof?
@dougn2350
@dougn2350 5 жыл бұрын
Zzul Ma... The news station called the fucking bakery and the fucking bakery confirmed they didn't want to make the fucking cake. God damn you're stupid.
@Stig007
@Stig007 6 жыл бұрын
Rainbows equals legal matter
@tonitruzone153
@tonitruzone153 6 жыл бұрын
This case is ridiculous, the rainbow is from God so that is not the issue. This women wanted it inside the cake, that is the issue. Everyone is trying to jump on the cash cow calming they are so devastated. That other baker will take your money go there, and stop wasting everyone's time with your sob stories.
@SimpleSpectator
@SimpleSpectator 6 жыл бұрын
This is complete bullshit. Just another fake claim trying to slander him because of how he won the case. I’m so over it. He even offered the gay couple a rainbow cake, instead of a “gay” wedding cake. Explains how she’s “never shopping there again” and won’t even identify herself. What a phony.
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 4 жыл бұрын
wait why’s he against putting on rainbows on cakes? was the cake supposed to be made for a transvestite? because it sounds like the woman wasnt using rainbows onthe cake to support the lgbtq community so it seems like itd be fine. i mean the first rainbow ever made by God was to help noah find land and God promising he’d never flood the earth again.
@heatherstrickland2071
@heatherstrickland2071 6 жыл бұрын
I'm with the man but really won't do rainbow cakes and I believe they said seven layers where the gay pride flag only has six that being red yellow orange blue green purple this customer probably wanted to add it pink I'm not going to make excuses for him cuz I find that to be very silly and maybe he is taking this little personally but if I had to take what he said seriously it's probably because when gay rallies were happening in his area people were probably asking for a rainbow Pride cake with the layers because truly they are still all the rage for some odd reason and then said no more rainbow layer cakes and even though that seventh layer is not part of the rainbow flag brown and black is now and it's ugly he may have just thought it's best just not do it at all but he really is limiting himself to Bare Bones I might add and even though I believe as a Creator limitation breeds creativity there's only so much you can do but I bet you more more people are going to his Bakery just to see what he will not do and I bet you were going to hear about him again when Halloween rolls around I actually feel sorry for them the person who I am wouldn't care because I like all those crazy things but that's not the person he is but that's not going to stop people for trying to go over there and see if they can sue them or if there are any sorts of sjw they're going to do there damnedest to bring down his company
@elsantrey5078
@elsantrey5078 5 жыл бұрын
Oh that's funny because in the Bible made thousands of years ago, it says that God put a rainbow. after the flood where one family built a big enough wooden structure that outlasted a world wide flood.
@veronicapierce1980
@veronicapierce1980 6 жыл бұрын
Oh please. Stop the ridiculous baiting already! Here’s a suggestion: ask a Muslim bakery to make a cake with your rainbows.
@boonebeargrub2705
@boonebeargrub2705 5 жыл бұрын
also, these people are pretty rude when you walk in their shop. ive only purchased one cake from them and it was horrible so as i returned it the next day. that couple should consider themselves lucky they didn't purchase this shops bland and tasteless cakes. they only thing that is good is the pastries and cookies etc. when i called the shop to get a refund he was reluctant at first until i pushed the issue. when i went to return it they gave nothing but dirty looks. never again will i go into this shop again. i also asked for a sample of fondant as i didn't know what it tasted like and they refused rudely. so i went down the street to the cake shop across from them and the Russian lady was very nice and customer-oriented and cordial offered me a sample of fondant. not only are they rude but they seriously need to reinvent their recipes when it comes to their cakes. im not the only one that noticed how nasty they are either.
@Macmacus
@Macmacus 6 жыл бұрын
Lol Christians has no issue with rainbow. Rainbow is first a symbol of promise of God before the world took it and make it their flag and symbol.
@JoshuaDeafTiktok
@JoshuaDeafTiktok 6 жыл бұрын
The guy won in court and so this woman can shove it
@leonply
@leonply 6 жыл бұрын
He's an artist? That, along with his "religious beliefs," are his excuse to be a bigot. Hate in the name of Jesus just isn't nice.
@boonebeargrub2705
@boonebeargrub2705 5 жыл бұрын
go somewhere else ffs. his cakes arent that good anyhow. they are overpriced and very very bland.
@beckygould7509
@beckygould7509 6 жыл бұрын
My comment had nothing to do with gay marriage. I was talking about a rainbow birthday cake. Chief baker said rainbow on a cake is fine, but we don't make rainbow cake. She didn't just want a rainbow on the cake She want the cake itself to be rainbow, all seventeen layers ! My earlier comment was simply that rainbows are not exclusively the property of the gay lesbian, trans community . I'm straight and I love rainbows.
@theresahall6197
@theresahall6197 6 жыл бұрын
becky gould is it possible that the Baker misunderstood her idea of what the cake was to look like? And it because people can't ever let it go turn it in to a big deal even if wasn't.
@sodapop8885
@sodapop8885 6 жыл бұрын
Hew can do whatever he wants, BUT...I think he's being completely ridiculous about the rainbow thing. You know, just because gays use the rainbow to push their agenda does not make rainbows bad. When I was a little girl, I loved rainbows too. it's a little girl thing along with hearts, unicorns, fairies and princesses. I wanted my wedding dress to have rainbow decals all over the skirt, and I planned on marrying a man! I was a big fan of rainbow brite, and Pulchritude - the rainbows daughter - was my favorite character from Oz. I even dressed up like her for Halloween, and I assure you - it had NOTHING to do with sexuality. I was a little girl, I didn't even know what sex was! Just because gays have picked the rainbow as their official symbol shouldn't ruin rainbows for the rest of us! So sad this baker wouldn't make a little girl's birthday cake.
@dennisstaughton7474
@dennisstaughton7474 6 жыл бұрын
Soda Pop I'm curious about this "gay agenda" you mention. Besides flying a rainbow flag on their own property, could you cite times when gay people actually "pushed an agenda" on you, personally?
@dennisstaughton7474
@dennisstaughton7474 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Where's the victimhood. It's ILLEGAL. The religious right are the ones playing victim here. If you actually had the brain capacity to live up to your "name" (that you hide behind, Mr Righteous "christian"), you would see that. I'M not trying to buy a wedding cake, but I can look at the situation dispassionately, which conservatives are again and again unable to do. Conservatives can't wrap their brain around an injustice until THEY, personally, are the ones being fucked over. But thank their God, almighty they ALL voted for someone who has taken no time at all in fucking them over! (Where's that wall? Where's that deportation station? Where's that amendment to make abortion illegal? Enjoy that tax break that makes your owners richer, though!) Maybe they'll be able to see the light soon. We'll wait....
@dennisstaughton7474
@dennisstaughton7474 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Where's the "straw man"? You are openly anti-gay, despite the fact that the medical community AND your government are in agreement that homosexuality is not a crime or a mental disorder. Clearly, the only openly anti-gay people in America today are the ones who justify their stance with religious doctrine & dogma. No strawman. You're taking a conservative, right-wing, stance that has ONLY been backed up by the religious right in the past ep years. Connecting the dots does not a straw man make, but kudos to you for learning a new word! Did those Kool-ade drinking left-wing elitist academics teach it to you?
@dennisstaughton7474
@dennisstaughton7474 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker hmmmm, "sex with the president ".... WHERE?!?
@paleobc65
@paleobc65 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gay and i agree LGBT should use a different symbol
@lindseysummers5351
@lindseysummers5351 6 жыл бұрын
Jack, Jack, Jack, you are being utterly ridiculous. I recognize how difficult it is to start and rin a successful small business. You, on the other hand, KNOW how difficult it is, so you ought to know better than anyone NEVER to turn away a paying customer. I know how hard you had to work to get this far, and I don't want to see you go under, but you cannot have it both ways. I'll say it again for you: Discrimination is Bad For Business. If you haven't figured that out yet, what will it take to get that fundamental rule of business through to you? Mr. Phillips is welcome to his religious beliefs but is not free to discriminate in his business. A wedding cake is a wedding cake, regardless of how much effort he puts into decorating same. The overwhelming majority of the wedding industry knows this. The only difference is the recipients. As to Mr. Phillips participating in the couple's wedding...he isn't. He's baking a cake and dropping it off. Give us all a break. And as to those posters wanting to talk about Muslim-owned businesses, please use a correct analogy. In your scenario, the Muslim taco shop owner would be telling a Jewish customer, "You can have some of these Slim Jims on the counter or a few of these dinner mints, but I won't cook for you because it's against my religious beliefs to host Jews like that. See, I gave you SOMETHING, so I don't discriminate, right?!?" And as to the constant gripe about forcing a Jewish baker to bake a swastika cake...find me a swastika-shaped cake pan and we'll talk. Case law does, however, allow a business owner to refuse to create a product carrying a message they would consider offensive, or lewd image. Had this couple asked for, say, a message with, "Gay Pride Forever," or a cake topper with two grooms, the baker would have a point. But that did not occur here.
@lindseysummers5351
@lindseysummers5351 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Fuess you didn't know the video was a fraud. Three of the bakeries he visited turned him down. One baked cakes but not wedding cakes. One did not bake cakes at all. One would have accommodated his request except for the fact that he asked for a message that was obnoxious and disparaging to others. Critical thinking is a wonderful thing.
@lindseysummers5351
@lindseysummers5351 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Can I bust your bubble? I watched Steven Crowder's video, too. It certainly doesn't fit your narrative. More importantly than what he says in the video is what isn't said in the video...like he visited several other bakeries in the Dearborn area that agreed to accommodate his requests...but he edited that out of his video. Yeah, I can see why he would leave that out. And, yes, a request to write, "Same Sex 4-ever" would be considered obnoxious. Now, since you all seem so interested in whether or not Muslim-owned businesses discriminate, let me just add that bad behavior is bad behavior, regardless of who is doing it.
@lindseysummers5351
@lindseysummers5351 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Your little video proved nothing when it had to rely on selective editing. Try harder next time, buckaroo.
@lindseysummers5351
@lindseysummers5351 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Again, it proves nothing. Your little friend is just as disingenuous as you are being. Stay in the shallow end. I'm done with this and with you.
@Tsuruta1
@Tsuruta1 6 жыл бұрын
Lindsey Summers Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay, you posted a bunch of tomfoolery.😕
@virulenti
@virulenti 6 жыл бұрын
This what belief in a Sky fairy does to people.
@jacquelinerobinson4987
@jacquelinerobinson4987 5 жыл бұрын
This place is a mess they just need to shut it down and make it into a marijuana dispensary! Or make it a marijuana bakeshop! Or maybe he just needs to change the name to like Make America Great Again Cakeshop cause the majority of people that go there sport those stupid hats
@LinaVera4
@LinaVera4 6 жыл бұрын
Can people leave him alone!
@syscoby226
@syscoby226 6 жыл бұрын
god bless you jack
@j6184
@j6184 6 жыл бұрын
1:03 there's a rainbow cake in the background, what a hypocrite. I hate Jack Phillips.
@j6184
@j6184 6 жыл бұрын
Watch the clip again.
@sce2aux464
@sce2aux464 6 жыл бұрын
J Taylor - All rainbows are multicolored. Not all multicolored objects are rainbows.
@theresaroadcap9639
@theresaroadcap9639 6 жыл бұрын
AWW, now do you, really? LOL Poor SLOB
@Thatsswell-hr9ev
@Thatsswell-hr9ev 6 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't do the rainbow that looks like the LGBT flag. I saw the cakes you are referring to. They don't look like the LBGT flag.
@Thatsswell-hr9ev
@Thatsswell-hr9ev 6 жыл бұрын
Then what do you make of what the reporter said at 2:23? Frosting OK but layers on the inside aren't? That sounds like they don't want to do anything that resembles the LGBT flag. What do you think of what she said?
@orientexpress1509
@orientexpress1509 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Phillips has so much hate and arrogance. Since when is a cake an art?? Also just because he calls it an art doesn’t make it so, lol. It’s a food!
@orientexpress1509
@orientexpress1509 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Wow, so much derp and irrelevance I don’t really know what to say. I shall address each point by point. Since when it’s a requirement you need to be able bake a cake before you can buy one or even comment on whether it taste or look good? If so then I guess you never ever complained about a food in a restaurant you couldn’t cook yourself right? Are you suggesting that all wedding cakes are made of styrofoam and therefore not food? What I want to know ..... Is a cake FOOD or not? Also when someone calls something an art, does it make it an art?? Your name is ironic .... do you think at all?:)
@orientexpress1509
@orientexpress1509 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Clearly a statement which expresses a rhetorical statement eludes you but don’t fret that’s a sign of unintelligence. Let’s break down your silly response. You asked me if I baked a cake... why? Yes, why do you need to know how to fix a car before you call a mechanic? That’s stupid wouldn’t you agree? Why do you dip a crucifix in piss? Why? I wouldn’t call what you described as “art”, more akin to a symbolic gesture of a ritual. If you think crucifix dipped in piss is art, then sure knock yourself out. You sure proved that there is no accounting for taste. So why do you avoid a simple question ... is a cake food or not ? ;)
@orientexpress1509
@orientexpress1509 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker Wedding cakes are eaten at weddings, No? Therefore it’s food and therefore not art. What’s so hard to understand simpleton? ;) you don’t know what food is? Lol, a troll struggling to make sense, you poor lamb. Clearly most sane and intelligent people can identify what food is, and would certainly not eat Mona Lisa. Next piece of gibberish :)
@orientexpress1509
@orientexpress1509 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker I have to disagree with everything you spouted. Clearly you have no conception of what food is , so let me link you the definition and perhaps you can identify which constituents parts of Mona Lisa fulfill the criteria of food. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food . Mona Lisa as food - a laughable point of view, you must be seriously out or your depth with this trolling :) Whether or not a cake is a food is not debatable ... please don’t be dense. Please show me evidence where a cake is an art :) The baker may put its own individual aesthetic design on a cake, but it doesn’t change the fact the cake is a food and will be eaten. Additionally, the wedding cake involves input from the customers, and therefore the “idea” isn’t‘ solely the baker. If that were true, I’d say an ice cream scooper is an artist too don’t you think . Lol. What dirical thinking is required for this case? It’s a surprising,y straightforward case, which is why the ruling is what it is. Just look at the judges;s ruling on Klein on their assertion that their cake is art - extremely laughable. The government most certainly does not compel you to say anything - maybe re-read what it actually says, that would help tremendously. Next troll :
@orientexpress1509
@orientexpress1509 6 жыл бұрын
MrReasonablethinker sent you a msg earlier, so please read. There was no vitriol. You refuted the fact that cake is a food, which I find extremely stupid and of course I would question your intelligence. It’s not queer, it’s the way it is. Believe is whatever is entitled to :)
@amartin444
@amartin444 6 жыл бұрын
He might as well just go out of business. Business first before your beliefs 🤦🏾‍♂️
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
Not my friend, you got it all backwards. Faith comes first. All else comes after.
@amartin444
@amartin444 6 жыл бұрын
Walter Higo then you shouldn’t be in business at all. Faith doesn’t give you business. Product does. Don’t mix religious beliefs with business.
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you would not say that to a Muslim baker.
@jerrykrause4458
@jerrykrause4458 6 жыл бұрын
+212kingz - Why should Walter Higo (who your comment was directed to) or anyone not be in business because they put God first? Thank you.
@heyayup
@heyayup 6 жыл бұрын
Walter Higo If faith comes first then why bother opening up a business when you can't serve the whole public and there is a chance you would have to go against your beliefs? go work at mcdonalds then. I guess then I can start refusing service to black people because it "goes against my beliefs"
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