Great meatloaf Tom. Your "stone story" brought back memories.... My dad had a larger whetstone (roughly 3"x10") that had been passed down from his dad (& maybe once before that), for knife sharpening. I was probably 7 or 8 years old at the time, and wanted a more portable option; so I broke it in half, & then broke a roughly 1"x3" piece from one of the halves- I will never forget it; my dad was SO mad (in the same way that I would be today). Just thinking about it, I still regret doing it, even though it was 20 years ago.

Tom love the channel!! Thank you for taking the time to share

Tom, I enjoyed your story about your dad's sharpening stone. I had a similar story only it was the locking gas cap for my mother's car. For some reason the cap was in the house and I noticed that it had a couple of screws. Me being the curious person that I was, I took the screws out hoping to learn what magic it had inside. Long story short, tiny ball bearings and springs shot every where. My dad told me to never take anything apart again. His threats didn't work as I have been taking stuff apart and putting them back together ever since. Thanks for the great content

Thanks Tom. I always learn something from every video you do. I am now caught up to the present day. Great to see Ernie again!

The indicator mechanism is quite ingenious. A canine friend makes life better. Good video, as usual. Thanks.

Great scores on some nice tooling and tools. Amazing spunk for a dog of 18! Thanks for the video.

As always, lots of great stuff and information. Love the pup. He still looks pretty spry for 18.

Great dog Tom it is a great reminder that for Machinists we have proof that we are not antisocial because most of us still have our dogs.

Love that story about your dad!

I can hear AvE's dulcet Canadian voice in my head: "The Ideal goes both ways with regular thrust on one side, and a bit of reach-around action on t'other."

You definitely made out Tom, I would of bought the first lot with the tape measures too. Even though I don’t need it, at the time I would of absolutely needed to buy it! Lol. Love your channel. Cheers from Washington Pennsylvania.

Bet nearly everyone has a story like that of your stone - Love it. Interesting seeing that Snap gage and its flexure which appears to be functional, but having just watched Robin's (ROBRENZ) video (Repeat O Meter); His flexure solution is nearly a work of art!

You didn't just say that a fall arrest system fell out of the sky, did you?? 😊 Best bite of meatloaf is always the last! - A man, his dog and their workshop…. Even Rockwell painted it. Thanks for the Meatloaf Tom.

Aloha It looks to me as if the dog might be under fed!!!!! I enjoy the diversity of your videos, I never know what is next. Keep them coming... Thanks for your time in doing this.

Thanks for another helping of Meat Loaf. Cool stuff. The box of the Double Scale Ideal Indicator shows the old 2-digit postal code for Rochester, NY. 2-digit Postal Codes were implemented in 1943. 5-digit ZIP Codes were introduced on July 1, 1963 but they were not mandated until 1967. The paperwork does not have the Postal Code on it, so I'm guessing it was made shortly after 1943 (still using an earlier version of the paperwork).

As a child, I too ruined my grandpa's straight razor and he was also furious with me. Lesson learned: grown-ups should know better than to leave cool stuff within reach of young geniuses. 😁

Early Harley bench centers for truing crankshafts used those indicators.... they worked fine!

Very cool! Thanks for sharing,man.

Yeah for Ernie. Had to put to sleep my shop dog this past April. He was almost 13. Always tough to loose your best friend.

A wonderful act of forgiveness by your father, a nice gift, indeed.

Double meatloaf this Monday...once on my plate with potatoes and once on my tablet with Tom. Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

Enjoyed! Love the Mahr indicators myself. Useless trivia: They are/where also sold by Mitutoyo (And had written "made by Mahr" on the back)

That miniature anglepoise on the lapping machine is a beauty.

Fall arrest and tapes most likely came from a cell tower technician. I used to be one. Had to have all that stuff and the fat Max worked best for towers. Worked at heights and had to mechanically measure the towers and heights of the new antennas we mounted with one of those 300'ers

Tom you should make a clear cover for that mechanical test indicator, I think that would be a great showcase thing

Old scalpels were honed on stones like you've got . I bought my first Arkasas stone, in the 70's, to sharpen Smiley knives . A tool used in the removal of menisci from knees

Yes, back in the day before disposable scalpel blades, scalpels (actually called knives in the OR) were sharpened, likely on a stone like that Black Arkansas stone. After an operation is completed, all the instruments go down to the 'sterile supply' to be cleaned and sterilized in an autoclave. Back in the day, someone would touch up the blades of the OR knives and heaven help anyone who allowed a less than razor ultra sharp blade to make it back into the OR.

That's so cool of your dog,thanks .

The dog is just like you Tom, 'Old and Knurly'. 😂😂😂😂😂. Kindest regards from Bonnie Scotland. Joe.

Tom, I bid on that granite square (although I wasn't too committed to it) I'm glad it went to a good home and I think you still got a great price!

I just found a double scale from Ideal TC while digging through a box at a swap meet. I didnt know what it was at first but it looked cool

Hey Tom, my father was a SURGEON. Surgeons used to own many of their own instruments. My dad said he spent three years in medical school learning how to sharpen surgical instruments. When I was growing up, our neighbors used to bring their carving knifes over to the house around Thanksgiving so my dad could sharpen them. He could get them as sharp as a scalpel; he had to wrap the blade with newspaper so they could carry them home safely. I still sharpen all the knifes in the house several times a year. I refuse to work with a dull knife.

Hey Tom !! I'm from Kalamazoo, Some great memories from that place. Cheers, Cliff P.S. I remember Dura metallic well, all my friends worked there, back in the day.

My grand dad was a surgeon as well (Healdsburg) not far from you. I still have some of his instruments and use them in my shop, albeit not for their intended purposes. Great vid as usual Tom.

To add to your “Father story”, I am fifth generation doctor / surgeon, and my Dad had an old hard Arkansas stone which he obtained from my grandfather Sam. My Dad said that Sam used the stone to sharpen his injection needles all the time; something his patients very much appreciated. Disposable needles first appeared in the civilian market in the mid 50’s. The re-usable ones became dull. Sam could judge how well he succeed in honing the point of his needle by the reaction he got from sticking his patients, and if there was a bur, even more by their reaction when he pulled the needle out. Hope this is useful.

I still use those mechanical indicators (e.g., Lufkin No. 199) sometimes. Very handy, accurate, good for a lot of work, and absolutely bulletproof. Drawback? The scale is quite small and may be difficult for some to read.

Tom love that ideal indicator would fit into my 1920 machine shop I'm working on.

Breath like a Komodo dragon, you just gotta love it, I can't say that I have been up close and personal to a Komodo dragon to know what that's like, but I guess we will just have to take his word for it, just a thought that when you were showing the Rahn granite master square, I was thinking that the actual granite that was cut from, is not that far off from being the same material as your granite surface plate, almost identical in composition. Anyway, a great meatloaf, lots of good content.

The "shock absorbing" lanyards is more a "stay out of the way" lanyard. Its shock absorbing property is very weak. We use similar ones for sailing.

Hi Tom, I was thinking it's a compliant hinge, but to be more accurate it's a compliant mechanism that's a flexure hinge.

I had one of those 300' tapes. Drove me nuts trying to position a building on my lot, nothing was making sense until I noticed there was no 11" marks on the tape. The bloody thing was marked in feet and tenth of feet not feet and inches. See ya at the bash.

There should also be a harness to go with the fall arrest block and the lanyard.

thanks for the video.. good stuff...

That Ideal indicator looks the same as the Starrett 564 that I have except that it two sided. regards Bruce

Tom, how do you hold the ball bearing in a surface grinder to put flats on them?

i dont think ive ever picked up a bit of steel and thought .. AHH A PRATT & WHITNEY steel circle...

Meatloaf for Monday morning breakfast.... love it

I'm sure there are plenty of millwrongs that would really appreciate that night light on that seal lapper. I've seen some of the dark, deep, greasy holes they had to do repairs in because the bean counters said that it was too expensive to do the manufactures recommended preventative maintenance.

Let us know if you get that indicator back together, lol. That's watchmaker tiny. All the best

Very cute lapping machine, thought it was a 60's record player for a second. Is there a way of lapping brass for instance, to a shiny finish? Would love to learn how one laps softer materials, I have read that the lap should be softer than the workpiece, but how to make it shiny? If anyone can point me in the right direction I appreciate it!

What ever happened to the Etching Press .. did I somehow miss the completion of that project?

I am another devotee of the old, simple indicators for a lot of things. They do the job and the price is right. I have several I use on the shaper when working inside surfaces, like a dovetail (they are small and rugged so fit pretty much anywhere). Maybe have 6 or 8 Ideal, a couple Starrett 564, a couple Lufkin 199, and a few Koch. All get use. I don't use the Starrett 64 (one long lever, no amplification) anymore. Kinda a pain to get the spring back in place on the Ideal, isn't it?

What FA Battalion crest is on your wall?

Always interesting and challenging.

Thanks for the meatloaf. Your shop is filled with interesting and rare items. I was wondering about the press you were making for your better half and how close to finished it might be.

The black Novaculite will Flint knap a whole lot better if it's heat treated to about 600 F. We are actually headed to Arkansas to pick up raw materials later next month. Want some for lapping projects?

u have a lot of cool pieces

What are you using to lap stones optically flat? I know roben grinds them flat.

The black stone was probably used for sharpening a straight razor. My great grandfather had a hard black stone that was swayed in the middle he used on his razor.

Aaaaah Maaan....! you ain't never gonna get that indicator back together...!

+RR Buildings could use the construction stuff

Good to see Ernie keeping the shop in order! That is a shame what happened to your grand dads stone, but accidents happen. At least it is less damage than dropping a 30K drill on your floor.

I loved the "Double scale Ideal indicator" bit. I have a Starrett No.564 Universal Indicator with the pamphlet and box If you want some photos PM me.

I’m on Holliday in France can’t understand a word you say Tom😂😂👍bonjour

Tom; Sorry to say I won't see you at the Summer Bash this year, too much traveling for work. As noted below, please check the certification date on the fall protection device and shock lanyard you purchased. We use these all the time and they are only certified for a couple of years and then must be re-certified to be used. If they are past the certification time period, we are required to re-certify or destroy. A project near my project recently had a craft worker killed when his automatic lanyard failed to deploy when he fell off a platform. Even though the items look brand new, and may work as intended, they are limited time use items and are considered critical safety items. If they are out of date, please think about throwing them in the trash as these are life safety items. Your organizers for the grinding wheels are genius.

Have to ask did you get the little indicator back together ? That spring looked really tiny .

mmmmmmmmm nice meatloaf enjoyed it tom

Nice meat loaf Enjoy the Bash

Great video! Dog's Breath: we put liquid tartar remover in our dogs water. No tartar, no bad breath. There are many brands to choose from. I buy the cheapest, from Amazon. Current batch is Nylabone advanced oral care, or some such. Have used other brands - no apparent difference. Hopes this helps. Keep up the great videos. I seldom comment, unless I have something to contribute.

if you are coming down... a few places to see in the burbank/sun valley area.. in burbank LUKY hardware. formerly Joe factor sales. all kind of strange fasteners. there are some video tours. in sun valley.. APEX electronics. luky might take 2 hours to walk thru and stick your nose in most of the bins.. apex is a 3 to 4 hour adventure.. between the 2 is Norton sales on laurel canyon north of sherman way. they are a Rocketry rental store now.. they bought surplus during the 60s and 70s from various sources. they have a show room that takes about 30 minutes to enjoy.. just thought you should know..

Thanks

Use a smidge of heat to stretch (and narrow) the nut tube so the smallest one fits, WITH the exception of the end where it needs to fit inside the coupler.

A very good meatloaf.

You could use the fall protection device for when you stand on a chair to get your cereal. Haha

Always good to see folks interact with their four-legged furry pals. Interesting that so much Americana in the way of tooling is being sold for cheap on E-bay&flea markets. Chinese stuff being even cheaper ya have to wonder when will cheap over lasting quality end?

Dave Richards uses one of those old mechanical indicators in his steam powered machine shop.

It’s good to be careful with fall protection equipment with unknown/undocumented history. Even improper storage can severely reduce the breaking load of synthetic rope and sling material without visible defects.

Re: strung-together nuts. Search Amazon for "Nut & Bolt Thread Checker". It's a set of threaded nuts and bolts on a steel wire, both metric and imperial. You don't even have to remove them to use. Admittedly it doesn't go up to the sizes you have on yours, but I love mine to pieces.

That fall limiter? Yeah...I'd like that :)

Tom in the first part of this video there is a decimal equivalency chart. Where is that from or who produced it.

Yay! Meatloaf for lunch and nice and tasty.

In context what did you mean by the term optical / optically, I've done some work on vehicle lighting products (vision systems) ie: rear lights & mirrors for commercial vehicles and so it's not fully clear to me what exactly you mean. Do you mean simply visual inspection ? By eye? 17:51

Wow, what do you feed your dog?

got the wet stone collection of my grandad after he died, stuff like 60yo stones, they don't make those anymore...

That’s a handsome pup. 18 years, rename him Methuselah

Do you live in Michigan?

This is neat stuff, and I appreciate your sharing it with us all, but it will be real boring when you run out of room to store it all. Or a heck of a yard/garage sale! How can you remember where it is?!

The Miller Fall device is about $175.00 the lanyard is about $90

Curiosity killed the indicator. I took apart my mitotoyo 1/10000 apart and never got it back togeter...

The Ideal mechanical indicator needle must move just a tiny bit more/less depending on witch way you move it... and the error grows as you enlarge the mechanism.

If you are going to play with small stuff like that gage you need to get yourself stereo zoom microscope for the shop. I have one in my shop I use all the time.

Thanks for entertaining us "loafers"

30:12...but of course, for those who 'night lap', you gotta have your real world conveniences!

A Hard Disk Drive platter should be flat. Have you ever measured a HDD platter for flatness?

What you did with that stone I had happen with a Latrobe lathe tool once. I just tapped it against another tool, and a rounded concave piece just broke off. I thought it was so weird I tried it again, and another one came off, like a moon crater. I still don't believe it. I thought they were tough enough to take shocks. And the part I hit it with was rounded, not sharp.

Thanks Tom. If I was your dad and you were knapping my hard Arkansas stones I would wonder where I went wrong in your raising..... I got very upset when I broke my translucent Arkansas and it was a small dude to begin with. I still get a hollow feeling in my guts thinking about it.. LOL Good story

Mount that 300' tape measure on your lathe as a "mechanical readout"

Tom. I will have to copy those surface grinder wheel organizers. I think I will make them out of "gasp" wood.....

Now be safe , not to be used as a pry bar. Nice Meatloaf. Thanks

Those quick release hoses and fittings are available in smaller OD sections, so probably the next sizes down will be 3/16 od imperial and or 1/4 inch od, with metric being possibly 6mm and 4mm od. hope this helps with keeping your nuts in order, 😂