+DeadCore To be fair- the gunlance gives a lot of room for a lot of lewd jokes. And i love it.

please be gentle gaijin senpai

+DeadCore Fun fact, that's a quote from the Ace Lancer. He says this in that 1-star Gunlance practice quest in MH4U.

Omg he does, he also says "Hmm did I just say something amusing?" Ace Lancer is the name, thrusting is the game.

+DeadCore "T for Crude Humor"

Thx bro

Thx

+Liam Crehan glad someone noticed ^^

+gaijin hunter oh Japan, you and your subtle innuendos

oh no you didn't

I think that was what the Teachers actually said during the training mission from the 0 star missions (bad version of Tutorial above...). In game weapon tutorials pale in comparison to the teachings of Hunter no Gaijin, butt this one is hilarious to read the masters words.

I think it was a joke since the introduction of it (everyone loves a game dev/team of good humor).

"When Gunlancers attack, their vigorous thrusts can result in an explosive climax" That's what the Ace Lancer tells you in the Gunlance Tutorial of MH4 Ultimate. He has no idea this line can also be quite... hilarious.

XD the innuendo is real

+Jeck Mester Bayonetta would apreciate. ; )

+Jeck Mester And their vigorous thrust. That can't have been an accident lol

+Senpai Squid it's a direct quote from the gunlance tutorial of MH4U. The Ace Lancer even comments on the innuendo with "Hm? Did I say something amusing?" Or something along those lines.

Some Guy That's amazing.

....Kreygasm?

Pretty sure only a few children play MH(I started playing MH in 4th grade)

an unanswered verified comment, tragic...

The 3rd upward poke WF was something I regularly used in 4u. It's been a feature for a while now.

Vincent502 It's been a thing since 3U in fact. Being able to use WF as a combo-finisher was part of the first revision. 4U didn't add too much outside of the jumping attacks and the R+A shell rush I think.

Yeah. Shell rush makes sense, though. Lacking an equivalent to shield advance that normal Lance has always felt odd to me.

Well, shell rush still only really makes sense in the context of jumping attacks in my opinion, since you essentially are just doing the forward+X charge defaulting to the A interrupt. It still lacks any defensive benefits and is limited in advancement options given how sluggish it is to get into motion with the shield up to correct any misalignments. It's the only method of getting the jumping shell attack though, since forward+X always results in an immediate slam. And Lance is supposed to be the more defensive of the two with the lighter weapon allowing for more versatile movement options. GL is intended to be a sluggish, but powerful technical weapon utilizing an aggressive hammer and anvil approach to combat.

woah, thanks

Ehh, I want to say it's not so bad, but then I've been playing Gunlance actively since 3U, and it will be my main weapon once more in MHGen after having gotten mostly benched in 4U. I know the weapon pretty well at this point.

It's just a weapon I never grasped what I was supposed to do with. There seems to be no clear approach, but rather just do whatever and kill things. That's just my opinion though.

Josh Haworth Well, first of all, it helps to remember the Gunlance's go-to combo, that being the stab-stab-uppercut (or triple stab is also good if the style allows it). For larger opportunities, You can fire a shell after the last stab to extend the combo and transition into more stabs. That's the most basic behavior with Gunlance. In MHGen, you've also gotta look for shelling opportunities more than usual to get the heat gauge up. Get it at least in Orange, that's what really matters. And naturally, be careful where you fire your shells, full-burst included. People don't like getting blasted. I often like firing shells upwards, after an uppercut for that reason. Is this the kind of direction you're looking for with the weapon?

that actually helped a lot.

Josh Haworth In that case, you're welcome.

Yes. It was already the case in MH4U. It seems even worse here.

It has always been very complicated lol! I mastered it n killing btches with a blast

I'm assuming he mean "less complex" Gunlance was already slightly tedious to use, now with the heat gauge, it's even worse. The damage output is still decent, I mained it on MH:G on the 3DS. I really feel like the damage nerf + heat gauge was a big F-You to gunlance mains, it's the slowest weapon in the game and needed higher damage to offset being a turtle.

+Kaze Memaryu yeah. I had a lot of time-outs in G content in mh4u already, even when playing as aggressively as i could. I felt it was a bit lacking in the damage department before and i mainly used it as my 3rd main weapon for fun in online, the others being switch axe and insect glaive, which left it in the dust when only looking at the clear times. Hearing that shelling got nerfed i lost any motivation to use this weapon again. Don't get me wrong, it is a great weapon on paper. Pew-pewing is fun and all but it just turned out rather poor in MHX.

+Skryeve EXPLOSIONS!

You know what, I actually didn't know this. I can't believe I wasn't aware of this. Very nice!

Thank you best grill ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I haven't noticed! I'm only going by the demo of course, but I'm still able to dish out ridiculous amounts of damage and it's still one of the fastest ways to fell Narga.

Well, it's not a total nerf, but in Japan the gunlance is one of the more popular weapons.

+the bonesauce Narga is quite easy to fight with a GL actually. I had more issues with Malfieso.

Malfestio is one of the biggest douchebags to grace the series. He is essentially a "fuck you" to anyone using adept or aerial. Nargacuga is a cake walk to adept compared to him. Infact even if you manage to adept evade an attack, he'll just fly into you or tail slap you regardless, if not will confuse you. I've never seen a monster so infuriating. On the flipside, adept gun weapons are great against him but for those who don't use them won't have a good time. (i mentioned aerial as well because he denies you of trying to bounce on him and even if you do he moves away or does the confusion slam)

***** Good for you.

+Norbles Xarelon It sucks.

+James McDaid (Coolcat) Not true. It's all about playing right with it. If you do you do insane damage

Doesn't suck when you git gud tho ;)

Blast Dash III FTW >:3

Yah I've found the kill times with Aerial style with a normal GL are really fast. I feel the weapon is in a lot better place than 4U

Mobility was never an issue with evade dist and playing evade GL... But hey! Let's increase mobility with a silly weapon art and nerf damages some more!

+Caleb Torres or SnS?

+Jordan William If I understand correctly, the motion values in yellow gauge are weaker BUT the overall weapon is more viable and balanced, imo 4u's gunlance was pretty weak (compared to the godly 4u's insect glaive and charged blade)

What's a gunlance? .-.

Seems even more complicated than before to be efficient (you have to manage your heat gauge on top of the ammo and evade lancing... I mean, seriously?). So I would rather say it will be worse than before.

+Draclord35 Evade lancing isn't the only way to use a Gunlance. in mh4u I played through the whole game using only Gunlance and I didn't evade Lance I just played with the shells and thrusts as it was meant to be used and it worked great. What really hurts Gunlance in generations is no artillery God. that was the only thing keeping this weapon alive and I really doubt it will be G rank viable without it. I will still try to the best with the weapon this time around but, I fear Lance will just overshadow it now and Lance isn't even all that great to begin with so that says a lot about Gunlance... (Sorry for any bad English lol)

+Howling Houndoom Shelling was useless far into G rank (DLC and 140 GQ). It wasn't worth it damage wise compared to poking with a good honed element GL or blast GL or a relic. Shelling is the bread and butter of GL only on wide GL. Otherwise poking and WF will be most of your damages on long type and poking + full burst will be most of your DPS on normal GL. It sounds like you mostely played wide GL. I must say that striker style on a long GL will probably be great (super easy to stay in the red part of the heat gauge) and adept style on a normal GL is pretty sweet (full quick reload + slam + full burst after parry).

+Draclord35 Nice observation there I only used wide Gunlance since I thought at the time it was the best way to use GL, of course this wasn't always the case. I have played the Demo quite al lot and I have to agree. I think striker Gunlance will be quite good because all three GL exclusive arts seem great! I think that Gunlance will be able to pull through the redesign but we will have to wait and see.

+Howling Houndoom Indeed. I'm reconsidering my opinion about adept GL though. The shield animation is painfully slow (so, forget about reloading without doing a successful guard) and you lose the ability to "run'n shell" which is very practical to manage the heat gauge and close the gap between you and the monster. What you can do on a successful guard isn't that great IMO. Quick reload of 5 shots is awesome (but you can barely do it the normal way anymore) and the full combo is way too long (rarely touched narga with the FB at the end). Aerial is awesome though. Never thought I would enjoy it but the jump is actually pretty good for mobility (hopefully it will work well with evade GLing).

+Technomancy1 A simple google search will turn up the western release announcement of Monster Hunter X (or "Monster Hunter Generations" for the western release). You clearly haven't been following the news as Gaijin also celebrated this announcement on his channel.

+Dongyu Su (Rex) No, I haven't been following this channel very much, nor have I been following any channels very much. I've been very busy. I thought I could simply ask a question and maybe get an answer, not get told off for asking a question, which you still didn't leave a release date :)

Yh the blast dash helps with striker's inability to slam-blast and wyvern's breath is straight up awesome. 3 minutes is really long.

I just realized that you can use Wyvern's Breath even when Wyvern Fire's on cooldown and the gauge is locked so it's still very good for long shots.

I agree with that. I understand the CB and IG nerfs but what's the problem with GL? 1 of my favourite weapons getting nerfed for apparentely no reason makes me sad :(

Let me guess, u use Charge Blade

you haven't taken down a nargacuga in the demo in well under 10 minutes with a gunlance. If you use it right and start out with aerial to ease yourself into a guard weapon by keeping a familiar evade pattern, you can do ridiculous dps.

*checks own Nargacuga MHGen demo video* Yup, 10 minutes long and I used the Gunlance, lol.

artillery god is gone yeah

He's using the GL made from Dry-bones(or whatever name you want to call him) and has a ridiculous amount of Blue sharpness. It's upgraded from the bone version that has poor sharpness, -25% affinity and high raw.

+Arhen Dante OK thnkanks.

Yh you need guard up

Dullahan2 Totally worth it IMO

Nakarkos GL is blue one, The yellow one is Rajang, furious i assume

Aerial since the blast is above the players

I agree, most likely aerial, but the blast can still knock other aerial users out of the air especially when using wide shot, so be mindful of your timing. Full bursts are the easiest to time but the hardest ones to aim. You'll probably end up blasting a bunch of them around when things get crowded. Generally, I'd advise to ping whenever you are about to charge your Wyvern Fire so everyone can clear the blast zone or adept style users can use it for a free evade/block. Personal favorite is Adept Long shot, because once you're in the red, you'd be hard pressed to never find an opportunity to get out a WF.

also limited options for evade gunlance

Maybe you are right, gotta check it once the game is out. www.gamefaqs.com/boards/163462-monster-hunter-x/72998227 Doesnt seem like a big nerf tough, once you count red gauge.

Bukman Poder Rojo The big nerf is more that you're forced to use shells, and use them quite regularly. So for one thing, that's a nerf to versatility, but its also an issue that shells don't do very much damage. They're fun, for sure, but in terms of doing as much damage as possible, they're attacks you want to avoid using. Except now you can't avoid using them. So in terms of DPS, GL was nerfed enormously.

It depends on what you want most with your Gunlance. Whilst i don't have any particular sets in mind, there are a few skills that can strengthen specific areas of the the Gunlance and eliminate some of it's weaknesses. A few good ones to keep in mind are Evade Extender, Artillery Novice/Expert, Blunt and Partbreaker. Evade Extender nullifies the Gunlance's lack of mobility completely, and can help aid a more evasive playstyle.. Artillery Novice, and especially Expert make the Heat Gauge much more manageable, shots will fill it up less and wyvern's fire will lower it only half as much. It also buffs the power of shells and Wyvern's Fire considerably, and causes Wyvern's Fire to recharge considerably faster. A fantastic skill pretty much made for the Gunlance. Blunt works well if you use Normal shots a lot, as fullbursts use much more sharpness than standard shelling and stabbing. Great for some extra damage if you can fit it in. Partbreaker is one of my favourites, especially online. Since shelling and Wyvern's Fire deal fixed damage, they're great for breaking hard and annoying parts like Mizutsune's claws, or Uragaan's chin. Partbreaker lets you break these much faster, giving the Gunlance a support-like role in online.

Yep, not much has changed. The gunlance is still a very situational weapon that is tough to learn and master. Almost makes me wish that it wasn't so much fun to use. Anyway, I've barely used it in MH4U. It's veeeeery difficult to main. I never feel like I'm using this beautifully explosive weapon to it's fullest.

+Some Guy Yeh, it feels quite hard to use on 4U. Maybe because G rank monsters go apeshit, making shield feel almost useless.

+Some Guy i love this weapon too x3. but like you said, i fell that i don't use all is beautiful explosive power.

I've been maining GL in 4U as an evade gunlancer with good results. Unfortunately, seing how they nerfed it this time around, I doubt I will use it. It seems fun to use, but if it can't compete with other weapons damage wise (and that was already a problem in MH4U), I don't see the point of it.

Draclord35 the point of it, is having fun :D i mean, a game is for having fun right ?

Still... no more artillery god... and who was playing wide GL and turtling in G rank anyway? In MH4U G rank you had to go evade GL with long or normal GL to get good results (and mobility, especially with evade dist). The problem here is I doubt GL will be a good decent end game weapon. Wide GL has always been really easy to use. What about evading and having to manage your ammos and your heat bar at the same time? It seems like a lot of work and stress for minimal reward compared to a GS. I don't even see how GL can compete with lances anymore.

Its pretty easy. You can full burst to get into the red at any time. Then use Wyvernfire and lock-in the red and then just play it normally. Wide is awesome with aerial where you can full burst like crazy and do massive damage.

Finally someone gets it.

If by balanced you mean nerfed... then yes.

As a Gunlance main myself, I wish they'd just restore the weapon to how it was in P3rd and 3U. That's the best version of the Gunlance we ever got.

Yeah, I also plan to focus more on Thrusts this time around, which is why I'll be using Striker with Wide and Long types for the most part; though I'll still use a few Normal + Tamarod with Aerial, but I'll still use Thrusts more. Even have a nice Mixed set put together that should work quite well with that.