Moog Labyrinth // 3 Minute Manual + Full Review & Demo

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Moog Labyrinth // 3 Minute Manual + Full Review & Demo

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Get to grips with the Wavefolding Moog Labyrinth with the 3 minute manual, then dig deeper with 30 minutes of exploration and sound demos.
There's a simple philosophy behind the synth architecture. East meets West starting with 2 oscillators and noise then adding ring mod and FM, but we soon move into uncharted territory. A Wavefolder from Moog is the first surprise, followed by multiple filter routing options and an ingenious use of a 2 track self generating sequencer.
Its easy to get ever evolving patterns with simple or complex tones. Find something you like and lock it down, tweaking the patch to death. Great fun.
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• From The Studio
0:00 whats coming up
2:09 3 Minute Manual
5:09 Demo#1 Nothing Random
5:38 WTF is U MIX?
7:30 MoogerFooger 104 Hidden MIDI controls
8:18 Oscillators
13:23 A bit about Routing Filter and VCW
16:24 Wavefolder VCW
18:22 Filter
19:43 Sequencer
25:15 Demo#2 Keeping Things In Tune
26:38 Demo #3 Sequencer Changing Tones
27:09 Thoughts
29:00 Demo#4 Playing with the DFAM

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@mynewcolour 11 күн бұрын

‘3 min manual’ is great idea for a series.

@miklosmesterhazy2639 13 күн бұрын

That little demo piece at the end was the icing on the cake! Love your vids, lots of useful info from a pro, but not as dry style as a few other synth reviewers. Really well done channel!

@DoctorRevers 26 күн бұрын

Gotta stop reading the comments for these videos. Nice job on the demo. One of the best synth channels. 🍻

@Valliant2007 27 күн бұрын

This is going to be an absolute Tech monster and I love it!

@phurniture 25 күн бұрын

Seems like an instant-Techno machine

@marsmediapro 23 күн бұрын

An insane addition to Moog's desktop array. Thanks for sharing!

@chrisjohnson8262 26 күн бұрын

I can comfortably know you will always bring out and demonstrate the useful life of synths. As you have done here. Nice work. So far the Labyrinth is obviously a good tool for developing percussion textures, but it looks like it could also be good for atmospheric as well. Super kewl possibilites. Will be adding it to my Moog collection for sure. Great video as usual.

@drstupid1 27 күн бұрын

Sweet just about to get on a long flight so insta download to watch later. You da man!

@mymodularjourney 20 күн бұрын

This is the first of the little Moog boxes that really excites me. This seems like a real addition to the modular.

@fo76 23 күн бұрын

Great overview, thanks! 🙂

@robbrobb5543 24 күн бұрын

Good value for 700 it's worth it's parts, but at the end of the day it's two oscillators, a wave folder, a filter (a real Moog 12db though why not a 24 ladder style?), a VCA, AND also a nice generative sequencer that's the selling point, but for most of us already into the modular we don't need the other bits. The routing is consequential this is why we patch. I would be more interested in a 16 step or a matrix style mixer with those generative properties mixed with Moog VCAs that would be intense.

@matthewstein1110 27 күн бұрын

Sick!!

@dEadnAstyrEcords 23 күн бұрын

I see the Labyrinth is sold out at the all the smaller retailers, even Perfect Circuit is out. People have also said they're selling their Spectrovox to get one. You are going to be popular as people are waiting. They'll find every video they can. :)

@mauchkimberly 25 күн бұрын

Also, I love this machine for the reasons others in the comments don't like it. I quite like the generative aspect, and the sequencers. While I get that some want more versatility, being able to pull things out and use them elsewhere, I found the structure clever since it sort of forces you to use it within that box, use its features and filters, etc. From other reviews I've watched, it seems like it's quite pleasant to experiment with.

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

I like that it uses old tech and places it firmly in a modern context. Very clever.

@fentanyljones6956 24 күн бұрын

You have the mixer squaring off your waves. They’re a sine (top) and triangle (bottom) anywhere below noon on the mixer.

@StarskyCarr 24 күн бұрын

Ahh thanks.

@Test-zv9ty 24 күн бұрын

I'd love to hear this paired with the lxr-02

@MadelnMachines 3 күн бұрын

Can you do all or most of the same things with a taiga? Even the Behringer Proton also looks interesting with its dual filters and wavefolders.

@StarskyCarr 2 күн бұрын

You couldn’t easily recreate this on anything tbh. It’s probably possible to get close with a lot of thought. You do have FM ring mod and waveshaping on the Taiga. You also have 2 envelopes with the function generators .. but it’s the patching where things get tricky. You’d need more mults or ways to blend a couple of signals for the inputs on a fair few things. Changing the routing would mean a lot of repatching as well.. then the 2 channels could do similar (ish) things to the sequencer on this. Sounds like a challenge!

@FunnyBecauseItsTrue 23 күн бұрын

...pretty disappointing that there is not a full printed manual shipping with these; flipping through Moog's beautiful and carefully constructed user manuals has been one of the joys of buying their products...

@YouBredRaptorsMusic 21 күн бұрын

Hell yeah

@cloudseer 26 күн бұрын

I think we’re just waiting for the first banger that creates a new genre with it.

@aloraliquid 27 күн бұрын

Cool little unit :) Crazy that this released so close to the Spectravox ... I wonder if that has to do with the leaked images and such? Just get it out before Behringer releases it first lol Great Demo btw Starsky!

@HughAshton 27 күн бұрын

I don't see Behringer copying this any time soon. It's taken long enough for the Subharmonicon clone to come out.

@aloraliquid 27 күн бұрын

@@HughAshton ⁠lol yeah, I was just joking about the speed of which Behringer copies. That being said, they have copied the other 3 Moog units in this form factor…. So you never know what they’ll rip off down the line :) Cheers

@HughAshton 27 күн бұрын

@@aloraliquid I'm sure that Uli will do eventually get round to cloning this. I have a CRAVE and an EDGE (there's not a lot of difference between them and the Moogs) but I do own a real SHM (and a Werkstatt). Not that keen on the idea of the Spectravox, but this Labyrinth looks really fascinating. I'm looking forward to the Behringer VCS3 ripoff, though. No way could I afford a real one, or the cost of maintenance.

@aloraliquid 27 күн бұрын

@@HughAshtonI own the Moog Mother32 and DFAM and have certainly used it in my music creation. I’ve actually eyed up the EDGE many times as a second version. I liked a few of the added features on the EDGE more than the Moog one (eg proper midi)

@chrisjohnson8262 26 күн бұрын

Good point. Makes you think if maybe there is a third release here later in this series. I think yes. If the profit margin is hitting, they may see this framework as a good way to go developing synths and modules. Would be Uber kewl to a Sub37 version of all this semi-modular.

@gertvanveen6439 25 күн бұрын

'I hope you're taking notes' haha

@Vim-Wolf 25 күн бұрын

You kind of lost me at “Here we have”😊 Looks like a lot of fun to integrate with some other eurorack gear, and makes some lovely “80s Doctor Who” sounds. Thing is though, every time I hear it I wonder what the heck has happened to my preordered Stylophone DS2. Wifey got it for my birthday back in April, still no sign.

@Eli_B3000 25 күн бұрын

They said September in the last email.

@Vim-Wolf 25 күн бұрын

@@Eli_B3000 Thanks. Wifey is getting the emails so I didn’t know.

@Eli_B3000 24 күн бұрын

@@Vim-Wolf I'm a little antsy myself, I'm on the pre-order and this is right up my alley, feature and size wise.

@skeogeirl7144 25 күн бұрын

Why no midi in / out so we can sync it with our octatracks and drum machines

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

There is… its a TRS in the patch bay

@RealityShiftUK 27 күн бұрын

So many good synths around this price I think I’d rather get the moog subharmonican to go with the dfam .. this does look fun though

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

Get both… it’s the only true path 😂

@jensmandreasen2230 25 күн бұрын

The unsymmetric LFO sounds like TZFM. The frequency drops below zero and then rises a wee bit in the negative direction before quickly returning to the positive domain again

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

Yeah it’s defo TZFM - I didn’t realise it would do that though. Nice info thanks.

@jensmandreasen2230 25 күн бұрын

@@StarskyCarr - I'd guess it's an SSI2130, same as TEO-5. If you open it up, look for a 4x4 mm tiny surfacemount black square

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

@@jensmandreasen2230yeah there’s a lot of them around at the moment. Lots of TZ eurorack modules as well.

@gergokovacsjazzpiano8165 27 күн бұрын

For me it would be logical to run sequence 1 on osc 1, and sequence 2 on osc 2, so a paraphonic setup, then maybe options which goes to filter, which goes to wavefolder.

@StarskyCarr 26 күн бұрын

Yeah the VCOs are mixed before the wavefolder. Another little switch could’ve split them perhaps.

@JohnNewtoneu 27 күн бұрын

699 squid though

@TheIndustrialRetrospective 27 күн бұрын

wish they would have given a little more space in between the release of this and the spectravox!

@StarskyCarr 26 күн бұрын

It seems these have been in development for quite some time. Perhaps the inmusic purchase slowed down the release, and I suspect they needed some quick wins to keep things moving .. ie cash flow.

@robaire.b 24 күн бұрын

Seems quite Buchlaesque for Moog

@user-wg6mt3se1n 27 күн бұрын

699 for a little synth made in taiwan, not bad

@fjfrancois 27 күн бұрын

Lol 😂

@dankeplace 26 күн бұрын

@@fjfrancois pst have 2 new toys coming. PEAK and UDO S6 :D

@user-wg6mt3se1n 26 күн бұрын

@@dankeplace I already have the Udo and the Summit, compared to the Taiwanese Ex-moog company it offers much more synth for the money.

@thepostapocalyptictrio4762 24 күн бұрын

Yeah.. no. Worse than the DFAM, same price as the American made gear but made in Taiwan. F*** no

@user-wg6mt3se1n 22 күн бұрын

@@thepostapocalyptictrio4762 The thing about the American gear was a fiction, the heart of the synth, the entire inner workings always came from Asia, possibly made by Uighurs in prison camps, who knows. Exmoog was very good at one thing, lying to its customers. You have to understand the price, Jack paid far too much for nothing, had to make a lot of people happy again, suddenly Roger Linn and Bob's daughter think Jack is really cool, probably out of charity. That costs money, cash has to come back in, no matter how.

@mauchkimberly 25 күн бұрын

OMG dude! did you piss someone off at YT because I had to jump through some serious hoops to find this video? In fact, I couldn't even get YT to give me your channel (and it's unsubbed me). They won't be stopping me from a Starsky review, and shame on them for trying.

@pablowentscobar 27 күн бұрын

Great demo Starsky. That thing is actually amazing. I can't wait until Behringer rips it and I can afford one. Seriously though, I'm looking to dip my toe into semi modular and I've been going back and forth on what to start with, it's tough because I like all the west bleeps and bloops but I also like the crunchy east techno, and I really like percussive synths and this thing really seems to check all the boxes. Fantastic job at demoing this machine, your vids are really top notch. Thanks fren.

@Eli_B3000 25 күн бұрын

The Behringer Edge makes better percussive sounds than this and if you don't want to spend for the DFAM, the Edge is budget friendly.

@pablowentscobar 20 күн бұрын

@@Eli_B3000 That was in my top 3. I def like it a lot. I for sure want what I get to have a sequencer. I also like the West Pest, and, although not ideal, and I hate the patch cables, I was looking at the Volca Modular. It sounds good and I have other Volcas.

@Goettel 27 күн бұрын

Cool, but €600 cool?

@user-wg6mt3se1n 27 күн бұрын

Jack has to cover his expenses, so it doesn't matter whether it's made in China like before or made in Taiwan.

@Heathcliff_hensel 27 күн бұрын

Not

@NigDub 26 күн бұрын

It seems rather a well worked out idea. I am building a 4 tier (with 60HP euro) starting to become doubtful if I’m going for this one or Subharmonicon.

@StarskyCarr 26 күн бұрын

I’ve not fully gelled with the Subharmonicon. I find it more difficult to get stuff I like from it than the others. Lots of folks love it, which is why I got it, but I need to spend more time to fully appreciate it I think .

@C0LUMBIA 27 күн бұрын

Biggest question is... What will Behringer call their version, and what colour will it be 😂

@instruktor6467 27 күн бұрын

@@C0LUMBIA Behringer Maze, greenish, 249€, out in 2026! 😂

@mooted5513 27 күн бұрын

I was done at “random”. No thank you

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

Semi- random 😅

@JustPyroYT 27 күн бұрын

Can't wait for the Behringer clone of it. (This is not a joke)

@dankeplace 26 күн бұрын

Everything Behringer does is a joke.

@leyetnin1 25 күн бұрын

5U MU is the ONLY way to go!! This little stuff is getting annoying.

@weirdmjcasino8675 21 күн бұрын

I prefer my Behringer Neutron. I would rather pay for a Pittsburgh Modular Taiga, at least there is a damn envelope generator

@newtronix 27 күн бұрын

I thought they'd gone out of business?

@ElectroPanPipes 27 күн бұрын

No? They were bought out by inMusic

@StarskyCarr 25 күн бұрын

No, they’ve been purchased by inmusic (who own Akai and lots of others) so hopefully lots of investment and innovation to come.

@kierenmoore3236 27 күн бұрын

The Muse better sound good, or we’re going to lose Moog … (or InMusic’s other brands are going to have to prop it up …)

@final_mile_music9713 27 күн бұрын

I got the Spectravox a little while ago. It’s fantastic. So not sure what you mean?

@kierenmoore3236 27 күн бұрын

@@final_mile_music9713 What do you use it for? Do you have a lot of modular?

@dankeplace 27 күн бұрын

@@final_mile_music9713 he is butthurt all over these reviews, he thinks people shill, reality is, he knows nothing of which he speaks.

@Valliant2007 27 күн бұрын

Hahaha this is a beast of a synth!

@DoctorRevers 26 күн бұрын

Why would you care? You seem to hate moog anyway.

@ingolf7411 27 күн бұрын

Sorry Moog ... no. The Subharmonicon was an interesting and wonderful generative experimenting instrument. I liked it. The release of the Subharmonicon was in 2020. Did Moog have learned since then? Absolutely no ... the UI (a joke?) still has those little knobs and even more little "buttons". If creating weird sounds then I would go for the 0-Coast, if generating ideas or inspiration I would go for the Subharmonicon (again).

@Valliant2007 27 күн бұрын

Why would it not follow the same theme as the previous semi modular synths?

@Heathcliff_hensel 27 күн бұрын

Agreed this thing is lame

@dankeplace 26 күн бұрын

Just because you don't like it, you think Moog doesn't know what they're doing. You're in the minority. The knobs are fine, the format is easy to use if you want to get into semi modular/modular. Modular stuff is tiny in some cases so you really don't know what you're talking about. I bet you've never even used these Moog models you complain about. I've owned 2 M32s and compared to the Model D I had, they were much better in use.

@ingolf7411 26 күн бұрын

@@dankeplace Maybe I´m in the minority, that´s just my opinion. I´ve had (as you) 2 Mother32 and a Subharmonicon. And I´ve liked the Subharmonicon. Regarding the UI (I don´t want to do a comparison with Peak/Summit or Polybrute) Make Noise did a better job with the 0-Coast/-Ctrl (looking at both in front of me). And I don´t want to blame Moog, my Matriarch is an excellent instrument (same as the Subsequent37 I sold recently). If you like the approach of the Labyrinth ... go for it 👍.

@dankeplace 26 күн бұрын

@@ingolf7411 no you complain about the UI and knobs, the formula works, specifically for their format. What does PEAK Summit or PB have to do with this?

@Paparumbo 17 күн бұрын

It doesn’t sound very good.

@pizzagogo6151 27 күн бұрын

I’m not a fan of Moog at all, sure they usually sound good but overpriced & poor quality & frankly boring 😮 BUT Im happy to be corrected! sure this is a bit pricey, but this is something genuinely different its pretty interesting & ?maybe even cool. Not sure if it’s for me but I like Moog trying to break out of their “ same old.....”

@final_mile_music9713 27 күн бұрын

Possible the most over generalized comment. There is nothing poor about the Moog One, Model D, Grandother, Matriarch or any of the others in terms of quality. And I have a bunch of instruments. The top tier instruments are the best built instruments I own and sound fantastic. So your comment on quality and how ‘boring’ they are is bizarre to me. As for being ‘overpriced’ I guess that comes down to what to personally attribute value to.

@Heathcliff_hensel 27 күн бұрын

@@final_mile_music9713the Moog One's problems have been well documented.

@ITATTRACTS 26 күн бұрын

Poor quality? What?