Thanks for watching! It's an underrated synth.

Totally agreed! Thx for watching :)

So advantage of a sub 37 is just mainly more presets and user?

@@jamesangusmusic More keys and has an extra LFO too

@@pyrexcarrier ah thanks so much. The sub 25 actually seems like a cooler newer sub phatty

Good analysis! I definitely agree with a lot of what you are saying. It's a huge advantage that the sub has a built in LFO, and doesn't have to sacrifice the 3rd Oscillator to get those kinds of sounds. Biggest difference between them I think is just the character of the oscillators. The Sub series of oscs are noticeably darker than the Mini. Even compared to my Matriarch, they are noticeably darker, which is why I felt like it was better for bass, but absolutely it's still a versatile monster! I've got a Sub 37 vs Sub Phatty video coming soon!

Just saw this. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed!

Absolutely! Great one to hold onto

@ghost mall It did. It was a hidden egg in the original firmware. But they just didn’t implement it for the obvious reason of Sub 37 sales.

Great to hear! It's so good. I am happy to hear it's served you well :) more Moog content soon!

Thanks for watching David!

Thanks for watching! Vsts still sound great. I'm gonna do a video on Diva my fave vst ever. Stay tuned

Thanks! The Sub sounds. Cheer for watching!

Thanks so much!

Thanks! he's a legend

I’ve never played a Slim! But I value hands on workflow for hardware so I’d personally get the Sub Phatty, cause slim phatty has less controls right?

never tried the 25! and yea these are tons on Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace for good prices!

it just takes time and practice! with moogs, make sure you have a good balance between resonance and drive (reso makes sound less bassy, drive can bring back the thickness), make sure you have a nice amount of osc 2 detune, and make sure you properly gain stage the mixer so that the sub osc can cut through

@@MilesAwayOfficial Thank you very much! I'll work with your tips. I really need to practice.

@@zemarceloalencar6716 Can't really say I've used the factory presets in a while, but one thing you can do is load one of them and then tweak the OSC's in the mixer section, the multidrive, and the master volume, and see where the factory presets are getting their 'loudness' from. I use the multidrive generally in about the 1st quarter range to amplify the OSC's before getting distortion coming in as I like to keep the mixer levels at the 12' o'clock so they aren't over driven out of the gate as I like to keep that cleaner, classic tone. But as you'll hear messing with the mixer level's it doesn't really get to hairy until you really get closer to it's max setting. Hopefully that can be of some help to you to get a better understanding of what's going on and what you may like regarding your taste in tone

@@ubiquitousreverser Thank you very much! That's a cleaver approach.

Absolutely! Triangle and sine are probably the best Objectively for getting clean fat subs I find I just really enjoy a very saturated low past square wave Sometimes as well

USB midi!

@@MilesAwayOfficial I have the usb midi connected but it still has difficulty responding in reaper. It just shows that I need to configure it for some reason and I have but still nothing.

Thanks for watching! Unfortunately not sure what brand the rack is, got it used years ago

Moog Sub 25

Sub 25 is the new version of this! Otherwise I'd go for a Mother 32 but you need a keyboard then.

Awesome combo!!

@@MilesAwayOfficial I have a large studio and I have been evaluating the stuff I have and the stuff I use so the digitakt and the digitone have to go and more moogs and a MatrixBrute have to replace them . Have not decided if it will be another sub Phatty or a subsequent 25 .

Very different instruments actually! I'm working on a Moog Sub 37 vs Matriarch vid, you will see. Stay tuned!

yea you should be able to sequence it with any hardware synthesizer for basic stuff like pitch, rhythm etc! The advantage of the daw is going to be midi control over all the parameters. thx for watching!

@@MilesAwayOfficial Still quit noobish about it but I'm trying to figure out how I can record a Subphatty pattern on my TR-8s and loop it, but I can't find any very usefull information about how to connect it together and get sound out of it, it's a bit confusing and I dont want to blow up stuff u see?

The TR8S trigger out is wicked fun way to sequence riffs on a synth from the tr8s. I’m currently selling some gear to purchase a sub Phatty that is for sale locally so haven’t seen if/how it’s possible on this beast specifically, but it’s how I sequence my boutiques via the tr8s. You have a lead from trigger out on tr8s to trigger in or ext clk in on the boutiques. It might work via a gate in on sub Phatty but I dunno. You just load the notes in on your synth sequencer, n use the tr8s steps to input notes (obviously more than 16 steps using the a to h parts). To access it you press CC & RC together. Hope that sort of makes sense as I’m newb myself. It definitely works well and is easy with my 2 boutiques (sh01a and ju06a) You can set the assignable outs to be trigger outs also so you can do more than one synth with separate sequences at a time… If you’re still struggling with sequencing look into beatstep pro or keystep pro perhaps. Cheers

not sure sorry! don't use MPCs

@@MilesAwayOfficial OK no problem M8

Go for it but heads up Lowly owns the master!

@@MilesAwayOfficial thanks master

It does not, just S37

depends on region but anything under $800CAD is a good deal!

Thank you!! ✌️✌️

Unreal. I love it!

No, there's another..... Got yellow keys tho it's not exposed to sunlight. Shame because it's really fun to play, beefy but somehow neither a mini nor a voyager soundwise.

yes , i had to take off the side panels and replace it with wooden ones , btw the subphatty look much better that way

Sorry to hear that! What do you use now instead?

@@MilesAwayOfficial I still own the Sub Phatty but I'm going to replace it with a Pulse 2 in the next few months. I also own a DM12D that I'm going to replace with a DSI Rev2 16 voice at the same time. I tried to love my Sub Phatty but it was missing everything the Subsequent 37 had and without a good reason (I don't like the size and price of the Subsequent 37) !6 memory slots is disgraceful and the hidden functions are abominable. Also to add insult to injury Moog had promised to supply an updated firmware that would allow the Phatty to operate in a paraphonic mode. They recently decided not to issue the update and instead create a cash grab in the form of the Subsequent 25 (which is really just a Sub Phatty with the updated paraphonic firmware and a few extras thrown in) so I'm done with Moog.

the original thicc boi!

sorry to hear that! Moog service has been awesome for me, so maybe you got unlucky or got missed! Hope it works out for you