Moog vs Buchla: The Control Voltage Race | Astonishing History of Synths Ep. 3

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Bob Moog and Don Buchla were both pioneers. But who invented the concept of the voltage-controlled modular synthesizer? You may think you know… but you might be surprised! Learn more about the astonishing history of synths on Reverb: bit.ly/MoogVsBuchla
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@rockinblock5
@rockinblock5 2 жыл бұрын
Wildest combover I’ve ever seen.. salute to you sir
@skaneverdies
@skaneverdies 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone who wants to really get in the weeds on this topic, the book Analog Days (2004) is wonderful and genuinely fun to read. Highly recommend.
@nikolasb8313
@nikolasb8313 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@majicboxstudios3996
@majicboxstudios3996 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Doty: my grandmother called, she wants her chair back.👀by the way we love mark.
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just keep it for a bit longer? I have a few more of these videos to make!
@majicboxstudios3996
@majicboxstudios3996 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay Mark ok here is the deal: she said “yes he can keep it longer... however next time when you bring the milk and cookies, leave the milk at home and just bring the booze” also she said something about “the depends had a leak dont flip the cushion”... what ever that means😳
@Mardial
@Mardial 3 жыл бұрын
Really important information. Thank you
@WatchTheThrown
@WatchTheThrown 3 жыл бұрын
Love synths! More of these guys plz.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I appreciate you guys revealing Harald Bode's contribution to the instruments we love!
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
Hot damn. I’ve never heard of this guy! Everyone goes right from Theremin to Moog.
@temporoboto
@temporoboto 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing.
@eduardo700b
@eduardo700b 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content, love keyboards and pedestal clocks! ✌⏳
@modalmixture
@modalmixture 3 жыл бұрын
We may not have any more Synth Sounds Of, but I'm definitely here for this new series.
@user-iz3fn3mc9w
@user-iz3fn3mc9w 3 жыл бұрын
Wait why are they not doing synth sounds of anymore?
@modalmixture
@modalmixture 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-iz3fn3mc9w I don't know and I could be wrong. But I feel like I haven't seen a William Kurk video in a while.
@Apg002
@Apg002 3 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful.
@entropybentwhistle
@entropybentwhistle 3 жыл бұрын
We need links to recorded examples of Bode’s earlier instruments.
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 3 жыл бұрын
There's a book coming with several examples of Bode on his instruments...
@KirbyCurbwhy
@KirbyCurbwhy 2 жыл бұрын
@@briankehew579 What book? That sounds cool
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyCurbwhy Tom Rhea's Electronic Perspectives, dozens of examples of very rare instruments.
@mastercylinder1939
@mastercylinder1939 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Doty, Phil Oakey wants his hair back!
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
Good. I'd like to be able to see again. It's been a great loan, though!
@mastercylinder1939
@mastercylinder1939 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay Lol.
@JamrockVybzTV
@JamrockVybzTV 11 ай бұрын
My mentors.. This is awesome
@videocurcuits
@videocurcuits Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure the Electronic Sackbut 1945 also had voltage controlled oscillators, and of course before that and Bode's earlier work voltage controlled oscillators (and voltage control more generally) had been implemented outside of musical instrument design.
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay Жыл бұрын
The Electronic Sackbut purported employed "voltage control," but the important point is HOW that voltage control was employed. And I don't actually know. It may be in some very relevant fashion. But when talking about events in the development of synthesizers and Electronic Music history, the MOST relevant points are those that deal with influence. There are connections between LeCaine's history and historical elements that led sequentially to other developments, but the Sackbut was not really one. On top of that, Harald Bode's Warbo had what could be called "voltage control" in ways, too... and that was 1937.
@videocurcuits
@videocurcuits Жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay I watched a talk recently on the Sackbuts restoration, The Sackbut (apparently had what we would recognise as standard VCF, VCA, VCO topologies. Gustav Ciamaga apparently had experience with LeCaine's VCFs and introduced the Idea to Moog (which is certainly worth exploring). Of course as I mention Bode had as I understand implemented voltage control topologies with tubes, I am certain many other examples could be found both in musical instrument design & more significantly in analogue computing and process control earlier than in musical instrument design.
@discomfortdesigns
@discomfortdesigns 3 жыл бұрын
MORE DOTY CONTENT! He's the one guy that really understands. There's something special about him🍞🧪🐀🔨
@oliveroneill1388
@oliveroneill1388 Жыл бұрын
Great insite , never heard of him . Thanks
@karltraunmuller7048
@karltraunmuller7048 3 жыл бұрын
You’re good when you have a Hiwatt sitting on the shelf behind you.
@CashMattock
@CashMattock 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 The #SoundSynthesizer #HaraldBode 👍👍✌️
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Hammond Novachord fits into this?
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 2 жыл бұрын
The Hammond Novachord did not employ the control voltage paradigm. However, it did feature early versions of just about everything that defined a polysynth. And, it was the first top-octave-divide instrument.
@tupinituts1649
@tupinituts1649 2 жыл бұрын
Awescome ❤️
@assafdarsagol1909
@assafdarsagol1909 3 жыл бұрын
trautonium had voltage control in the early 30s with filters, oscillators, and voltage control. Perhaps an episode about Friedrich Trautwein and Oskar Sala is in order
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
The Trautonium was an incredibly important instrument for a variety of reasons... primarily that it used a neon-based oscillator that generated a sawtooth... that in combination with its dormant filtering meant it was one of the first synths to demonstrate a “subtractive” paradigm. However, it did not employ voltage control in the manner that it is relevant to later synthesis devices.
@en-vn-6284
@en-vn-6284 3 жыл бұрын
Круто ☺️
@davidbennett2339
@davidbennett2339 3 жыл бұрын
Good info, enjoying the series quite a bit. It's just weird that the title of this episode obscures the topic. This video is about Harald Bode...why not say so? Anyway, it's good, I'll watch as many as you make, Left-Eye.
@davidcottrell1308
@davidcottrell1308 6 ай бұрын
ha ha ha...I mean who invented that hair...is that voltage controlled????
@odd_harmonics
@odd_harmonics 3 жыл бұрын
@AutomaticGainsay is that mini the same from your your "old" minimoog video? Hope that oscillator is still a little drifty!
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
It is the very same! And yep, good ol' #2 keeps the detuning alive!
@kittellmusic
@kittellmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, can the man introducing the video see?
@kittellmusic
@kittellmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Through those beautiful locks that is
@TheCleansingx
@TheCleansingx 3 жыл бұрын
Press X to Doubt
@horowizard
@horowizard 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Harald Bode is the same Harald Bojé that played in Karlheinz Stockhausen's ensembles.
@strangequark420
@strangequark420 3 жыл бұрын
Buchla vs. Captain Anderton, by the photos ... goodness me.
@vincent_us
@vincent_us 3 жыл бұрын
chair don't match the hair but great piece!
@demarantz
@demarantz 9 ай бұрын
dude - your rug has slipped. push it back!
@cemdasou
@cemdasou 2 жыл бұрын
Trautonium was even earlier and as well German
@matthewenglund3502
@matthewenglund3502 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Mark has joined the Illuminati 🤦🏼
@Floppa-oz1kp
@Floppa-oz1kp 3 жыл бұрын
Moog looks like Lee Anderton
@SuiGenerisMan
@SuiGenerisMan 2 жыл бұрын
YO! Flock of seagulls 1998
@cameronleggett
@cameronleggett 3 жыл бұрын
Hugh Le Caine and the Electronic Sackbut? No Mention? A new peak in Low-Down-Ness.
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Cameron. Hugh's work was fascinating and important. But Harald's work preceded it. What can be done about that?
@jdanielcramer
@jdanielcramer 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Hugh is well known to have communicated with Moog and others at the time and to have written in the popular journals of the time. His designs date back to ‘45 and through a connection with Gustav Ciamaga influenced Moog’s early filter designs. Le Caine is often disregarded when the history of synths are discussed so it comes as no surprise here 🙃 do a video on Hugh, his life as a musician, motorcycle rider, and trick photographer, coupled with his quiet demeanour and untimely death may make for a surprising video. 😻 and I love the hair! Don’t cut it! 😻
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdanielcramer The Ciamaga connection is absolutely fascinating, and I know for a fact that Bob knew of Hugh's work through the trip to Toronto he took when he and Herb smuggled an early Moog modular into Canada! I only wish that Hugh's work had had more of a impact as products.
@clydetripoux5041
@clydetripoux5041 Жыл бұрын
It's the first time i hear about inchuments, and i don't really get the difference with instruments.
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the eyes of presenters are obscured by the hair of those who part it.
@EarthnikNews
@EarthnikNews 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this … well except for the part where Marc really needed a comb!
@cyberyogicowindler2448
@cyberyogicowindler2448 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't this video be better named "Moog vs Bode"? The contents barely discusses Buchla but the earlier synth pioneer Bode.
@cabbycabby1770
@cabbycabby1770 3 жыл бұрын
Sources for this info in the description would be helpful. Thanks.
@rogerpibernat
@rogerpibernat 3 жыл бұрын
......
@greencontact
@greencontact 2 жыл бұрын
Name of the episode should been Boda and Moog something.. nothing about Buchla in this.
@MrIdril
@MrIdril 3 жыл бұрын
Need spanish subt pls 💋
@ArchangelCrusader-he3gg
@ArchangelCrusader-he3gg 8 ай бұрын
Salute to German innovation.
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not use a Buchla employee(Mark Doty) for this ????
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because everyone knows he's gonna say it's Don Buchla.
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay As he always does. Probably why they only have a clip of Doody in the beginning and end, reading from a script. lol
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay Don't you work for Buchla, too ?
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@DBCisco Except he didn't say that, did he, DB. No, in fact he said it was Harald Bode. Also, he wrote the piece. So, what was your point?
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay You realize that the commentator was NOT Mark, right ? Mark is white. You prove you are little more than a troll all the time.
@tmccormick892
@tmccormick892 3 жыл бұрын
What's goin on with the vibe of the guy in the intro..."I wanna make Misfits music but electronic and I'm in my grandma's basement"
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
I think you've nailed it, Tim.
@mootbooxle
@mootbooxle 3 жыл бұрын
Bo-duh? Or Bo-dee?
@fessgrandiose
@fessgrandiose 3 жыл бұрын
Bo-duh.. apologies on the pronunciation fluctuations
@vinylarchaeologist
@vinylarchaeologist 2 жыл бұрын
Something between Bo-duh and Bo-day would be closest to the German pronunciation. Accent on the “Bo”.
@cassettedisco6954
@cassettedisco6954 2 жыл бұрын
GRAN DOCUEMNTAL PERO POR FAVOR ALGUIEN TRADUSCALO !!!!
@R1GAMBLER
@R1GAMBLER 3 жыл бұрын
MOOG! FTW!
@rtod4
@rtod4 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Moog wasn't pronounced like Moog
@HenritheHorse
@HenritheHorse 3 жыл бұрын
It was, but Robert wanted to pronounce it mogue.
@rtod4
@rtod4 3 жыл бұрын
@@HenritheHorse Thanks, I didn't know that was Robert's choice 👍
@douglas_drew
@douglas_drew 3 жыл бұрын
@RTOD - Bob told me his "...ancestors had long pronounced it with long o's".
@vincentprimault4380
@vincentprimault4380 2 жыл бұрын
Mohog
@roy7046
@roy7046 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, the hair?
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
ikr?
@SignificanceOfThePassageOfTime
@SignificanceOfThePassageOfTime 3 жыл бұрын
I have a new band name. The Hipster Comb-overs
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
I'm super flattered that you think I'm a hipster. Thank you!
@marklewis7484
@marklewis7484 3 жыл бұрын
Moog = Anderton
@HenritheHorse
@HenritheHorse 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Wright in some pictures too!
@pedrogomis
@pedrogomis 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but in the Buchla system you present you put three non Buchla modules like the Eardrill Pendulum Ratchet or two Verbos oscillators...
@BIZARBIES
@BIZARBIES 3 жыл бұрын
O boys wig is on backwards.
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
It was windy
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 3 жыл бұрын
The Bode system has modules, for sure, but it's not a synthesizer at all: it's a set of effects processors in a rack. You could patch them in different orders - just like guitar pedals - but they don't interact nor do any control of each other: There's no voltage control at all. That's a HUGE difference and a leap forward first seen in Bob Moog's system, interactive voltage control. Buchla's instrument was created a year after Moog's in the fall of 1965. They were all brilliant creators, but defining the differences and exact timeline is critical to understanding...
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Brian! Certainly, the layout and intended function is not quite as formalized as what both Bob and Don would come to do, but isn’t that the nature of technological development? As for voltage control: While, as you’ve pointed out in the past, there is no oscillator in this device, and that certainly puts it in a different realm than what Bob and Don would come to do (also, it is not transistorized, which makes a difference, too), the way that the envelope-following Modulator creates voltages from audio, and then the way that those voltages can be applied to other functions certainly constitutes “voltage control,” even if it is a primitive example. And, again, while a different paradigm than an oscillator-based system, what is applied to the tape can be used in the same way various control voltages could be used. While the method is different, it is still the implementation of control voltage to achieve an audio outcome. As for Buchla’s instrument, I’ve been fighting the prevailing inaccuracy of “1963” for over a decade!
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 Жыл бұрын
@@automaticgainsay Hello! But many studios already had racks of equipment with patch bays - just like the Bode- and decades before. It's not even innovation other than he made the panels look the same and saw it as "a system." No sound generators at all, and significantly - no voltage control at all. In the video above it is said that the Bode system had voltage-control: it did not. CV brings a factor of complexity and power that is 100s of times more powerful than anything to that moment. Almost anyone would conceive of a "synthesizer system" as being generators and processors interacting, specifically with voltage control - otherwise it's just a fancy pedalboard (not a synthesizer). The Bode system is indeed a racked set of processors with a patchbay to reorder them.
@en-vn-6284
@en-vn-6284 3 жыл бұрын
Уууу
@ned_interrobang
@ned_interrobang 8 ай бұрын
that hair. grow up marc.
@234cheech
@234cheech 3 жыл бұрын
moog wins
@rickyjoeshippyful
@rickyjoeshippyful 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should grow that old man beard out and brush it up over your other eye. You could hide good in there huh? Sorry, I can't take this guy seriously when he's trying to look 23 1/2 years old. 0:14 seconds
@automaticgainsay
@automaticgainsay 3 жыл бұрын
Come on... no self-respecting 23 year old would look like that.
@crazylikeafox7341
@crazylikeafox7341 3 жыл бұрын
Obstructing your I own vision in an attempt to look cool is dumb.
@garyturner5204
@garyturner5204 3 жыл бұрын
Really. Please, take that road kill off your head and look us straight in the eye. LOL
@zublits
@zublits 3 жыл бұрын
Cool subject matter, but incredibly dry script read.
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