Moon in 8th House of Birth Chart | Psychic Inheritance From Mother!

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Jupiter James

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10 ай бұрын

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📝JupiterJames' Personal Blurb About The Moon : Being a Cancer Rising myself I know all about the inner emotional tides of the moon so this series was quite comfortable for me! The moon is all about what comforts us and truly is the first programing of who we are as people by way of the relationship with our mothers! I found that the relationship to yourself and the world around you starts with the mom! The moon truly is powerful and I hope you gained some insight from your specific placement! Best wishes to you!
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@TheCristinaOle
@TheCristinaOle 5 ай бұрын
Emotional intelligence yes, people let us down, but we saw it coming. This is how I learned how to listen to my intuition, cause it never fails !
@estheradao
@estheradao Ай бұрын
Exactly
@rinag8754
@rinag8754 Ай бұрын
I literally was just talking about this, I can’t have friends who are secretive. I need friends who are just as deep as me. I am such a herb person. I love to motivate and heal people too. MOON 8th in Aquarius.
@Ana-xz8my
@Ana-xz8my 2 ай бұрын
Moon in Aquarius in 8th house!!! 🎉🎉 🌚
@annie947
@annie947 6 ай бұрын
Aries moon, 8th House here
@tiffenydavis2927
@tiffenydavis2927 17 күн бұрын
Moon in Aquarius and in the 8th house at the 1 degree. I legit get downloads when I do therapy with clients. I also prioritize therapy services in spaces in populations often forgotten of foster care biological parents, abused children, sex offenders, and also veterans with serve substance abuse and PTSD. I haven’t met a person I couldn’t find light in helping them to work through dark shame, pain and guilt so they could live accountably better. I have always felt that was my gift to the world. To sit in the darkest places with some and to help them gain their concept of worthiness back.
@pynklady11
@pynklady11 8 ай бұрын
Scorpio moon conjunct pluto in the 8th. Occult practices such as astrology, rootwork, conjure, hoodoo, in addition going to therapy literally saved and IS my life. This video is very accurate
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 8 ай бұрын
Wow, amazing! Stay on the path as it makes you feel your most emotionally balanced and alive 🫶🏽✨
@Krassiana
@Krassiana 5 ай бұрын
I have the same placement, thank you for the ideas 👌🏼
@OoooshetriesSs
@OoooshetriesSs 5 ай бұрын
EXCUSE ME!!! If u don’t take that knowledge + placement & become a damn Healer, I’m coming back as a Ghost & haunting u 💀😭 Mines a cancer 8H moon, but it aspects/Perfectly trines my Pluto/venus conjunct in Scorpio in my 12H Also I have moon conjunct Chiron so…when u become that healer… maybe u can, u know… heal me 🥲😭💁‍♀️
@user-yz2ru7me4x
@user-yz2ru7me4x 2 ай бұрын
I have a Scorpio moon and Scorpio is my eighth house. Plus, I have Uranus placed in this house too.
@lauradolecki259
@lauradolecki259 7 ай бұрын
Emotional rebirth 🥰✨ I love being an 8th House moon because I keep getting better and better 🙂 and I use what I learn to help others. Took me a long time to realise it was a good thing 😂 On the psychic level (Libra really telling here) 😂 my mum finally listened to the man I’m with now.. and said I can trust him. She’s NEVER done that. And my instinct was that he was my husband after our first meet 🥰 I kinda see people like books.. and those willing to self reflect and go deep are my favourite 🥲✨
@fridar192
@fridar192 Ай бұрын
Yes in all aspects, but the mother is an absent abuser. All other stuff you've spoken upon is accurate. Yes bruja aspect is correct, yes emotional betrayal lessons is correct. Yes you are in tuned. God bless your gift and courage to share!
@blo872
@blo872 Ай бұрын
Same. My mother’s a narcissist with a victim complex. I could never get deep or honest with her. Whenever I’d tell her something personal she’d find a way to use it against me, because she just had to get that ego boost from manipulation. She was my first lesson in psychological warfare.
@knarme5160
@knarme5160 4 ай бұрын
Pisces Moon in 8th house ~
@torineko0326
@torineko0326 8 ай бұрын
Hi Jupiter, I am a Virgo Moon in the 8th House . A lot that you have said about having a moon placement in 8th house resonates with me. I know that my Virgo ♍️ sign is analyzer and the 8th House is about digging into life mysteries and discerning the truth of our emotions . This is the best video I came across about my moon placement. Thank you. This is healing ❤️‍🩹 for me. You are meant to do this work! ✨🙌🏽Astrology is my tool I use to help discover myself and the truth of the universe. I also help others like my family members and friends by teaching them their astrology. I want to continue to empower people to learn more about themselves. 😊 👏🏽
@kittykibble7928
@kittykibble7928 Ай бұрын
Moon in Virgo, 8th house. My Moon aspects: Trine Venus (4th), Trine Uranus (11th), Trine Neptune (11th), Sextile Pluto (10th), Trine Node (12th). My synastry chart with my Mother from the day I was born is interesting; my Mother's Cancer Sun, conjunct my Vertex in the 5th house + Mum's North Node is conjunct my Chiron in the 6th house Cancer too (using Placidus). It has been a challenging relationship to say the least, but a connection I work on.
@jasmineinspires791
@jasmineinspires791 6 ай бұрын
Taurus moon in the 8th house
@TheCristinaOle
@TheCristinaOle 5 ай бұрын
Yes let’s talk about the moons, the stars, the ocean, astrology is my passion 😍
@EloisaGene
@EloisaGene 8 ай бұрын
I am Capricorn moon in 8th house. Btw thank you for your message. It's been comforting to me 😊
@spiritualgoddess3611
@spiritualgoddess3611 9 ай бұрын
cancer moon in the 8H and this is soo spot on especially about spiritual gifts being passed down. Thank you!!
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 9 ай бұрын
Yes, especially for you with Cancer Moon 8th House. You may have the gift of clairvoyance and knowing how others feel! this gift may have been inherited from the women in your family especially mother! You also need emotional security when it comes to intimacy or its a deal breaker! Check out your Sag Rising video on my channel for full breakdown of your chart! 💫
@giveback
@giveback 5 күн бұрын
Omg yes. I have been through hell and heaven with my mom. My mom is the strongest person I know. This is 100%😮. My moon in my 8th house in Gemini
@SofiReddy
@SofiReddy Ай бұрын
Hi, I have Scorpio & Uranus in my 8th house. Your explanation is accurate on all levels and I am surprised at your abundance of knowledge. I find great joy in sharing my life experiences with people I connect with and always amazed at how I overcame challenges to land on my feet…. Many Blessings To You 🙏🏽
@aliseemonet
@aliseemonet Ай бұрын
This was spot on!!! Aqua moon in 8th house
@GoldenTimeline711
@GoldenTimeline711 2 ай бұрын
Cancer moon at 28° in 8H. My mother comes from a deeply spiritual family. My grandfather knew he was in Atlantis in a previous incarnation. My emotions run deep and I know a part of my soul’s journey is to transform their erratic nature. This video is spot on - thank you for sharing your astrological wisdom with the collective.🔥✨
@OoooshetriesSs
@OoooshetriesSs Ай бұрын
This is crazy, I have this placement.. I never realized my gma was a psychic, she grew up ina small religious town in the depression, her mom died during childbirth & her. Stepmom was schizophrenic.. women who talked like that were put in institutions. Once she had her stroke; it was like her walls came down… we always had suspicions; she acted like she just knew things & she rlly did. She was always VERY metaphysical. She has one of the coolest charts I’ve ever seen. Sun mars Saturn all conjunct in Cap in 12th, Neptune 8th, Scorp MC, W/an Aqua Venus& moon on the ascendant. I have a pretty deep enmeshment w/my own mother. She has opposite my sun+moon+mars.
@GoldenTimeline711
@GoldenTimeline711 Ай бұрын
@@OoooshetriesSs 🔥🔥✨Work that inherent magic!
@shaeemichellesg
@shaeemichellesg Ай бұрын
Gemini moon 🌙 8th house. I’ve tried to ignore this draw I have to the mystical side. But now im fully embracing it. No matter what. Your video was spot on! Thank you.
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ Ай бұрын
You're so welcome dear 🫶🏽✨
@cynthiakluth7748
@cynthiakluth7748 8 ай бұрын
Cancer Moon in the 8th house
@jaynebananatree3783
@jaynebananatree3783 5 ай бұрын
RIP
@freespirit12
@freespirit12 2 ай бұрын
​@@jaynebananatree3783 why rip?😅😅😅
@TheCristinaOle
@TheCristinaOle 5 ай бұрын
This is so accurate. My mom is super intense 😂 she is very powerful, no bs kind of person but super sweet. It’s true, I’m super intuitive, immensely psychic. I can read people sooooo easily, I’m super empath. Bruja, curandera 😂 yesss I’m very healing, herbs, moon, witchcraft all of the aboveeee. Magical, yes. Psychic, yes, I always know what to say to people when they’re feeling some type away. I can use this in a good or bad way 😂 If it’s not deep I don’t want it period
@TheBigmaExperience
@TheBigmaExperience 4 ай бұрын
You described me to the T! I’ve never appreciated being so seen! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us 🙏🏾🩵
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 4 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! 🫶🏽✨
@LoveLife-gv8jg
@LoveLife-gv8jg Ай бұрын
Sun 28 degrees taurus Moon 2 degrees taurus 8th house I feel very psychic when it comes to people but not necessarily events.. It can cause a lot of problems because I often respond to people by what I feel from them vs. What they are actually trying to pretend to be so when i respond overly loving or very guarded when they are physically projecting something different I come across as a bit crazy. I'm not into a bunch of small talk unless it's good jokes because I love sarcasm. I've been through ALOT (pluto is conjunct, my ascendant) but I try not to become a victim. I have to see it as an experience to propel my soul to the next level.
@AAJHAYEJARAMIAH
@AAJHAYEJARAMIAH 4 ай бұрын
We most definitely have to have deep conversations and just talk about everything together that’s how I knowwww
@xxoPrinc3ssNa3xo
@xxoPrinc3ssNa3xo 2 ай бұрын
Taurus moon 8H, i have definitely changed my view on life, life has hardened me and i don’t view life as a good thing anymore. I’ve been through so much at this point idk if it’s this placement tied in with SN Aries being here. It took me a long time to have a good relationship with my mom, i have a lot of squares to my moon.
@user-yz2ru7me4x
@user-yz2ru7me4x 2 ай бұрын
Scorpio moon with Uranus also in Scorpio, both in 8th house. I feel lost but its like I just be knowing things. It scares people sometimes. Relationship with mother is nonexistent. I always wondered why this was.
@aminahmaryam3949
@aminahmaryam3949 Ай бұрын
Virgo moon 8th house
@michellearroyo9136
@michellearroyo9136 6 ай бұрын
Aries moon 29* degrees in the 8th house . Virgo rising . I was born psychic. I now have a business helping other through the help of my abilities . Now with moon in 8th I can feel moody depending on those moon transits . Also I struggle with anxiety . My mom was an Aries sun I did lose my mom early . I also did receive inheritance. Mom was the best mom , I’d chose her all over again .
@emperorshe1644
@emperorshe1644 6 ай бұрын
Capricorn Moon in the 8th house
@marcusjones2369
@marcusjones2369 Ай бұрын
Great video! my moon in the 8th house is Leo!
@KembaAyana
@KembaAyana 4 ай бұрын
Def resonates!! Pisces Moon 8th House
@samara_kindofmusic
@samara_kindofmusic 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!!🍀🍀
@lauracargill3423
@lauracargill3423 2 ай бұрын
Moon in Taurus in the 8th!
@EuridesCardoso
@EuridesCardoso 8 ай бұрын
Moon in Taurus in the 8th + Venus and Saturn in the same placement
@SammyJ96
@SammyJ96 3 ай бұрын
Scorpio moon 8th house, Venus Scorpio 8th house, Uranus Scorpio 8th house, and Mars 8th house. Occult knowledge is my life.
@linuslam80s
@linuslam80s 8 ай бұрын
Virgo moon in the 8th house. Great video !
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 8 ай бұрын
With Virgo Moon 8th house you are going to look for a certain sense of servitude from your romantic partnerships. You will find that you do things for others as a way to show people you really truly care! With Virgo in the 8th you will be very meticulous and communicative when it comes to grown people activities if you know what I mean! ✨
@CatladyActionFigure
@CatladyActionFigure 5 ай бұрын
Glad to have discovered your channel JJ. Impressed with your presentation so subscribed. Moon in 8th which is sole dispositor and highest (28th) degree. Is also paralell Uranus in 8th.
@susanmartin1916
@susanmartin1916 Ай бұрын
Capricorn sun 6th house, Moon in Pisces 8th house, Cancer ascensdant, Scorpio Pluto Mars 5th house, North Node Pisces 9th house, Chiron in Gemini 12th house. I have Sun Mercury Neptune Uranus and Saturn all in my 6th house
@ThisisDaniel
@ThisisDaniel 4 ай бұрын
Nice video. In my western chart, I have Moon in the 8th house in Libra, conjunct Pluto in 8th house in Scorpio. I live for life's undercurrents, metaphysical knowledge and holistic healing. Great analysis.
@mistymoon6328
@mistymoon6328 Ай бұрын
Sagittarius moon . Also have Neptune and Lilith in the 8th too. Been through a lot but it has made me stronger. definitely have psychic gifts. I read energies very well. Spirit is always around too. 💜
@DaSupaaNovaaSurfurrr
@DaSupaaNovaaSurfurrr 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see fellow moon in 8th house I have a sagittarius moon in the 8th house idk yall but I feel like I can read people like a book and I can tell their dark energies that we all have not to say every1 struggles with the same things but we all do with something and need to do shadow work every1 but yea good video may da Force be with u all Good Focre energy peace
@BAngieBthat1
@BAngieBthat1 6 ай бұрын
Hoodoo is what i connect with ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Neptune and Sagittarius
@mandishyne2281
@mandishyne2281 3 ай бұрын
Yes I felt every word at 6:26
@mandishyne2281
@mandishyne2281 3 ай бұрын
Made it to the end I'm an ♈ 🌙 in the 8th house
@KrissyFizzle
@KrissyFizzle 7 ай бұрын
Moon in taurus in 8th house and alll of this. I always say unless we're getting deep I'd rather not talk to you. Im no a surface level shallow small talk person. Especially as someone with a pisces mercury
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 7 ай бұрын
Yes! the deeper the better when it comes to you as this is where you comfort lies is in the deep and raw concepts of the world and the human experience! Many blessings to you! ✨
@Michelle-cb5jf
@Michelle-cb5jf 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I love your work! My Moon is in Leo 10° and also I have my Mars in Leo 28° in the 8th. Had a very violent abusive mom.
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 8 ай бұрын
Yes with Moon in 8th you could have a very intense relationship w your mother, whether for good or for bad! ✨
@estheradao
@estheradao Ай бұрын
Gemini moon in the 8th house.
@annemartinvenus
@annemartinvenus Ай бұрын
Libra moon in 8th house conjunct south node . I identify with this
@TheCristinaOle
@TheCristinaOle 5 ай бұрын
Everything yes yes yes 💕🖤
@icepincess
@icepincess 2 ай бұрын
Pisces moon in 8h, and south node in it too
@kandice0706
@kandice0706 8 ай бұрын
Sagittarius 💜
@LeoFearless88
@LeoFearless88 6 ай бұрын
Capricorn moon 8th house
@Rue-ti1vc
@Rue-ti1vc 8 ай бұрын
aries moon 🙏🏽💕
@TruthBeauty87
@TruthBeauty87 8 ай бұрын
I have my moon in Gemini (although cancer/gemini cusp) in sidereal in the 8th, and in tropical in Cancer
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 7 ай бұрын
Moon in Gemini in 8th could mean that you are emotionally satisfied by talking about, researching, and thinking about the mystical arts, psychology and this hidden things of the world and other people! ✨
@annemartinvenus
@annemartinvenus Ай бұрын
I’m Libra moon in 8th house at 29 degrees
@johnsonlakeesha8865
@johnsonlakeesha8865 8 ай бұрын
Subscribed! 🤎🤎👏🏾👏🏾
@johnsonlakeesha8865
@johnsonlakeesha8865 8 ай бұрын
Taurus Moon
@shirishvaidya1609
@shirishvaidya1609 2 ай бұрын
i am cancer ascendant with moon in 8th house
@jaynebananatree3783
@jaynebananatree3783 5 ай бұрын
Pisces moon 8th house
@yanaSolomon
@yanaSolomon 10 ай бұрын
moon in cancer in the 8th 🥹🥹
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 10 ай бұрын
awesome placement, can be very intuitive with this placement! You keep your emotions hidden unless the right person comes along! May receive inheritance or home from mother! ✨
@yanaSolomon
@yanaSolomon 9 ай бұрын
@@jupiterjames_ thank you!🤗
@francisrocca1617
@francisrocca1617 7 ай бұрын
Gemini moon in 8th house Jupiter conjunct
@a7onzo_
@a7onzo_ 9 ай бұрын
VIRGO EVERYTHING in the 8th House!!! Ketu, Moon, Black Moon Lilith, Nessus, Vesta, Makemake & Haumea! Everything moves into the 9th House in Whole Sign, but 8th House Resonates
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 9 ай бұрын
With Moon in eighth house of virgo your mother was a very intense person. She wanted you to excel in school and probably was someone who always was cleaning around the home. She wanted perfection. Also she was there for you during the hard times. Although she wasnt too emotional she was there in a practical sense. With Moon in Virgo 8th house you are meant to use your deep emotions to help others. You more times than not know what others need in order to heal them. you are meant to use this insight to heal / help others as this makes you feel your best when you are able to offer that help. ✨
@EC-ek6lp
@EC-ek6lp 5 ай бұрын
Moon 🌙 8th house Libra
@tiffanykuepker3460
@tiffanykuepker3460 4 ай бұрын
I have Cancer Moon in the 8th house 2 degrees. My boyfriend has Aquarius Moon in the 8th house
@missscribbles6530
@missscribbles6530 8 ай бұрын
Virgo moon in the 8th 🫠
@ericaroberts772
@ericaroberts772 4 ай бұрын
Cap moon in the 8th. Psychic for sure. My mom passed away during an 8th house profection year and left me 350K.
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Astrology is so amazing! 🫶🏽✨
@Bruna7X
@Bruna7X 8 ай бұрын
Moon in virgo and sun in virgo 8th house conjuction. Moon on the higher degree. Also Mars and Venus in the same house but in Leo. 8th house covered with those 2 signs.Any advice? ❤ Your video is great. ❤
@Chillseawave
@Chillseawave 2 ай бұрын
Moon in Capricorn in 20°
@sarahleylapowell543
@sarahleylapowell543 5 ай бұрын
Moon in Virgo
@user-um2lp1cy1i
@user-um2lp1cy1i 9 ай бұрын
You have to 99 percent of your predictions about this placement a....! That said since I've been into this astrology since lockdown I would like to know what is the death house besides the 8th house what would be the aspects so I can look out for it and cheat life?
@battlestargalactica9881
@battlestargalactica9881 2 ай бұрын
What’s the intro song???
@CatalinaRabeja-cm1ng
@CatalinaRabeja-cm1ng 3 ай бұрын
If i have pisces moon in 8th house,that means that my moon enjoys doing scorpio things?
@samara_kindofmusic
@samara_kindofmusic 8 ай бұрын
Leo moon❤❤❤❤❤❤
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 8 ай бұрын
Leo Moon in 8th House is someone who's may have had a deep and intense relationship with mother! OR the mothers had lots of secrets and was very powerful and witchy in some ways. You could be a very good psychic or intuitive healer! May gain inheritance through father/mother!✨
@melaniemccarthy3072
@melaniemccarthy3072 9 ай бұрын
Taurus
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 9 ай бұрын
Amazing! With this placement you may find that you acquire money from others very easily! Your mother is a stable figure in your life and you two may have gone through very many deep emotional things together. Intense bond with mom. You may also receive inheritance from mother in the future! You are comforted by deep and tangible and emotional bonds and the deeper truth to life with this placement. You also find that you are able to be there for others when they are going through hard times as you can handle it. Check out your Libra Rising video on my channel as I break down your entire chart within that video! 🙏✨
@TheCristinaOle
@TheCristinaOle 5 ай бұрын
This is so accurate! My moon is in Taurus in the 8th house. All of the above is truuuuu
@user-vi4vu6sj1w
@user-vi4vu6sj1w 4 ай бұрын
0degree taurus moon 8house
@ginar9083
@ginar9083 10 ай бұрын
Gemini moon in the 8th house conjunct Chiron, sextile mars, trine Jupiter, and opposition Uranus…..
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 10 ай бұрын
Great Placement! Gemini Moon 8th House could mean that you are someone who likes communication as a love language! Someone's word is their bond in your eyes and you don't take it lightly! Sometimes you may even know the secrets of others on a psychic level! See your Capricorn Rising video on my channel for more ✨
@ginar9083
@ginar9083 10 ай бұрын
@@jupiterjames_ Thank you! Appreciate your time.
@niyachante2757
@niyachante2757 9 ай бұрын
Libra moon and Mars conjunct in 8th house 🫠
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! With Libra Moon 8th House you are someone who is comforted by the deep dark things in life. Astrology, Occult Studiesc and Esoteric Subjects comfort you. Your mom was a very deep and intense person! Transformation and transitions life come very easy for you and they transform you emotionally for the better! May receive inheritance from woman in the family! please see your Pisces Rising video on my channel for more insight ✨
@drishtijain7084
@drishtijain7084 3 ай бұрын
What does moon in pisces in the 8th house signify? Please share.🙏
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 3 ай бұрын
This will show that you are comforted by your understand of the unknown, metaphysics, astrology, and the occult! Your mother could have also been into these subjects or was very spiritual! 🫶🏽✨
@drishtijain7084
@drishtijain7084 2 ай бұрын
@@cygnette Absolutely.🤍 Healthy boundaries become crucial for maintaining emotional well-being with this placement.
@harshiicostumes7641
@harshiicostumes7641 2 ай бұрын
Is Pisces moon for Leo ascendant baby girl loses her mother???
@jupiterjames_
@jupiterjames_ 2 ай бұрын
This could be a possibility or it could show tumultuous situations with the mother or a very ever-changing environment or upbringing! 🫶🏽✨
@harshiicostumes7641
@harshiicostumes7641 2 ай бұрын
@@jupiterjames_ my baby has this position sir and moon in revathi nakshatra and in 8 th house with moon there is Jupiter also sir for Leo ascendent will I die sir Kindly reply to me
@animalames78
@animalames78 5 ай бұрын
I find this placement hard and depressing
@_love_cats-889
@_love_cats-889 4 ай бұрын
I’d rather be boring that this traumatized
@Bkl_.69_.
@Bkl_.69_. 3 ай бұрын
I have moon in 8th house in Leo sign and also my moon has lowest degree ( DK) 🙂🫡
@user-yz2ru7me4x
@user-yz2ru7me4x 2 ай бұрын
Scorpio moon with Uranus also in Scorpio, both in 8th house. I feel lost but its like I just be knowing things. It scares people sometimes. Relationship with mother is nonexistent. I always wondered why this was.
@user-yz2ru7me4x
@user-yz2ru7me4x 2 ай бұрын
Scorpio moon with Uranus also in Scorpio, both in 8th house. I feel lost but its like I just be knowing things. It scares people sometimes. Relationship with mother is nonexistent. I always wondered why this was.
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