More Improvements to the Harbor Freight 20 Ton Hydraulic Press Part 2

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Dudley Toolwright

Dudley Toolwright

6 жыл бұрын

This video includes further improvements to the Harbor Freight 20 Ton Hydraulic Press.
Please Note: I am a beginning machinist and I do not pretend to know everything. Please always operate machinery in a safe manner and if you don't know, find a reliable source. DO NOT COPY ME. I make a lot of mistakes. I provide these videos for entertainment only.

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@28cruzin
@28cruzin 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Clever use of the extra ram. Most times I've seen slip on adaptors for different apps of the standard bar. You still may use them, but having that screw in the old ram is priceless. Again, Nice Job!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Very kind, thanks.
@oldschoolways4661
@oldschoolways4661 5 жыл бұрын
Taking the extra time to not just come up with a solution but making it ascetically pleasing. Nice job. I have a lot of tools but no lathe. Now I'm wishing for one.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Every tool I get opens new possibilities. I really do sympathize with the addiction. I hope you find one soon. Cheers.
@elfinyootube7971
@elfinyootube7971 5 жыл бұрын
I like the way you do these videos, for a hobbyist, you do real nice work. Everything you say is to the point and informative. no wasted words, unlike a lot of guys who really must love the sound of their own voice...
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I try to edit out everything bu the essentials. Sometimes I get it right.
@themotofixery
@themotofixery 3 жыл бұрын
This is such great stuff! I've been waiting for this press to go on sale and tomorrow is the day so I'll be using some of your great ideas. I really appreciate all of your videos and can't wait to get to work on this project. Thanks!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@jamesdorsey1686
@jamesdorsey1686 4 жыл бұрын
Great shop walk through, I also believe in constant shop upgrades. Your ideas work Dudley. The only problem I had was time, now I have to quit my job to catch up.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
I feel ya. There is never enough time to get even a tiny percentage of the projects done. I have a full time job as well.
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian 6 жыл бұрын
I've watched every video on bottle jacks, and this is the first that actually shows the details of how they're put together. Thank you for that. It's easy to sit on this side of the video, and comment. But I seriously doubt the lifting shaft could tolerate the forces if it were cast iron. It's great to know how that thing is made. My press consists of a bottle jack and a very big section of I-beam. One of these days I've got to put a press together. These videos have provided some great ideas.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I never mind comments, they always provide food for thought regardless, so don't stop. I think you are correct about the strength issues with cast iron. What got me thinking in that direction was the bottom press in piece, which looked like cast iron and was. At the time I thought the whole assembly was a single piece of material. In hindsight, I probably should have known better. I was expecting some sort of case or through hardened shaft, but what I found was, at least to my ignorant self, surprising. Thanks for keeping me thinking.
@paulng5768
@paulng5768 6 жыл бұрын
You might be able to figure out if the piston is hollow or not by weighting it.
@02arleigh
@02arleigh 5 жыл бұрын
I like your innovation , I have a similar press I've modified as well . Some folk do not understand why go to all this, but something is learned every time you think out of the box , and oft times it's far better than want is currently available . My innovation is providing the capacity to open 2 ways ,rather than having only one .
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I agree completely. It was fun and a learning experience, especially since I have gotten a ton of constructive feedback from the community. I appreciate it all.
@matthewwhaley1605
@matthewwhaley1605 3 жыл бұрын
Man I never comment on any videos. But i read a lot of comments. It's awesome you take the time to reply to comments. And receive constructive criticism openly. Keep being rad!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I figure that if the community is willing to spend their time to offer advise and comments, it's the least I can do to respond.
@davefeinglass9118
@davefeinglass9118 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you use tools, to make things for your tools, so that you don't have to use other tools to adjust your tools. (thinking about the knobs for the springs there :). Really great videos, thanks for posting them.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'll try not to be a tool and respond using this electronic tool. Wonderful play on words.
@JayFude
@JayFude 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at "Release the Schmoo!" and subscribed!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I did steal that comment from aVe. His play on words always amuses.
@petedetects7012
@petedetects7012 2 жыл бұрын
Very good improvement, I own the orange version of that jack . So many times I feel I can improve it but fight the little time I have in my shop to do anything about it. Thanks for sharing
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It was fun trying to conceive of ideas to improve a really mediocre, but affordable press.
@joedejesus6363
@joedejesus6363 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, I learned something just by watching your channel. Thanks for the "Tutorial"
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I try, but remember, I am not an expert and if you see something questionable, don't hesitate to call me on it. I always learn a lot from the comments, good or bad.
@dondotson4604
@dondotson4604 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dudley. I'm going to direct copy you. All good stuff.Don from Oregon
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
That is very flattering, thanks.
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 5 жыл бұрын
Some people clamp their chuck on a shaft/broomstick to provide a good handle. I have also seen wood blocks with side stops like wheel chocks to prevent rolling. Rolling the chuck off onto your foot is a BIG consideration along with denting the ways. Thanks for sharing!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Good suggestions, thanks. I usually set the chuck onto the d-pins when I am not holding it, but man I can imagine my 4 jaw hitting a toe...what toe?
@dennisgeroux4483
@dennisgeroux4483 Жыл бұрын
Nice additions, you gave me some ideas on modifications to mine.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@trollforge
@trollforge Жыл бұрын
Nice job Robert, the use of the second Ram is simply genius!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have limited room to store things, so that was a partial motivating factor.
@trollforge
@trollforge Жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright If you look at some of my older fabrication videos, you'll see that my shop is half again, if not twice the size of yours, with about 1/4 the space... ;)
@jamesharless5357
@jamesharless5357 6 ай бұрын
Very nice work, and great video!👍🏻
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Z71Ranger
@Z71Ranger 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video... I think if I had your Tools and Knowledge I would have just built the press my self... You do Nice work...
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I considered it, but the materials would have been more than the whole press (if I had purchased them from my local supplier). Besides, I was curious to see if I could take a very affordable unit and make it something like the more expensive brands. Thanks for your thoughts.
@173staggerlee1
@173staggerlee1 5 жыл бұрын
or maybe i could do it with my B&D 3/8 drill........seriously, great video, superb skills, but no way it helps me.
@dimik3855
@dimik3855 5 жыл бұрын
The joy of working metal to make it fit just right with what you've got at hand. Very inspiring! Now all I need is to get some more tools...
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Are there ever enough? I have a list of over 100 tools to make. Every time one comes off the list anther few go back on. I'm happily loosing this war...
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 5 жыл бұрын
I had a project i needed to crimp the ends of pipe. I think it was 125 pipes crimped both ends. I turn on the air motor full time and just opened and close valve. It worked well. Thanks for sharing
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on that one. Thanks for sharing.
@markalbrecht2444
@markalbrecht2444 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos , keep them coming!!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I will try. I found machining a bit late in life, but now I am hooked. Thanks for the comments.
@quadpit
@quadpit 4 жыл бұрын
I love overkill stuff... Just wish I had your skill set. Great video!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
You are very kind. Thanks.
@andyZ3500s
@andyZ3500s 4 жыл бұрын
I basically have the same press it's just older. It has always done what I needed it to do. I always wanted something nicer but with the modifications that you showed this seems like the route that I'll take. That way I could put the money into something that would expand my capabilities. I'm a new subscriber and enjoy your channel.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate hearing about other peoples perspectives. Thanks for subscribing.
@consaka1
@consaka1 6 жыл бұрын
AVE is cool and very informative and his sign off at the end of his videos drives my wife nuts. lol
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
He is quite entertaining and as his viewership increases he gets nuttier. Put a what, where?
@marscruz
@marscruz 6 жыл бұрын
His sign-off is an homage to The Red Green Show, a Canadian TV program that ended up on the Canadian version of BBC, the CBC. Red Green, the host and main character, would always end the program by saying: "Keep your stick on the ice". A hockey reference that a hippie dude might translate as: "Peace out, bro".
@bobblack3870
@bobblack3870 5 жыл бұрын
I like all of your ideas. I bought 20T HF press a few years ago that came in orange. I like your color much more. The number one thing that bothered me was those two black springs that lift everything back in place when finished. I think the main issue was mine were not tightened enough and stretched with time, so I was always practicing arm curls to get the unit back up. Finally, I replaced them with a cable and weight system. I should make a video of it, but here is what I did: I used 3 OH garage door cable pulleys (3") on each side. That style of pulleys have ball bearings. For each side: I ran thin steel cable from the top horizontals (drilling and inserting a bolt between them to attach the cable end), down to a pulley on the "press bar", then straight back up to a 2nd pulley above the top horizontals. The cable stays between the two top horizontals. There is a 3rd pulley cantilevered to the side of the press. Two wide sheet-metal "angle irons" sit above and are bolted to the top horizontals, sandwiching pulleys 2 & 3 for their support. So the cable path goes down, up, horizontal, then finally hangs down to a suspended weight. My weights are scrap iron, each weighing 20 lbs which is overkill because of the multiplication factor with the press bar pulley. It all works very smooth and always pulls the bottle jack up tight.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Neat solution. No matter what I come up with and no matter how long I have thought about a problem, someone else always seems to come up with a unique solution I had not thought of. Very nice and thanks for sharing.
@rancher9625
@rancher9625 5 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright If video makes this easier to understand, search for 'Harbor Freight Shop Press Pulley', (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ad9jgLSDub_YiWQ.html). It is an unpolished quickie video.
@amrosla67
@amrosla67 5 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing watching you mill your own parts!!! I am just facilitated with any videos on lathes!!! I sincerely appreciate both of these improvement videos and wish you all the best!!! Perhaps you should try and design some type of new Gatling gun that can fire billions of rounds out in a minute for our military!!! Lol Thanks again Art PS: I only got nervous twice in this video and that’s when you’re reaching into the lathe to catch your parts!!! Please be careful as the “Big Guy” upstairs only gave us 10 fingers!!!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments and warnings. I appreciate you looking out.
@mikenixon9164
@mikenixon9164 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. I make my knobs with a spindexer & a ball end mill works well
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I love the solution. Necessity is the mother of invention. I really love the lateral thinking going on out there.
@tkskagen
@tkskagen Жыл бұрын
Fabrication and Modifications are "KING" to make the Tool you need!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks and let's not forget fun.
@joegarage6132
@joegarage6132 5 жыл бұрын
First time watching your videos, enjoyed the lathe work. I have the parts for an older press, this gets me some things to think about. I've been welding for over 30 years, you are doing fine. The biggest thing is every time you weld you get better. Thank you for the great work. Btw my daughter set me up to subscribe and I will in a second. thanks
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and the words of encouragement. I have a long way to go before I make decent tig welds. I am completely self taught from books and vids. Every once in a while I get a straight clean bead, but that would be the exception. Thanks for the kind words though. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
@joegarage6132
@joegarage6132 5 жыл бұрын
​@@DudleyToolwright Remember keep your metal clean, never use anything other than acetone to clean the metal, Fosgene (sp) gas is a real threat to the welder, look it up. the other thing take your time with your puddles, keep your tip sharp or rounded depending how you like it. Leave your gun tip in the weld until all gas has left at the end of your bead. and remember to breath while you weld. Self taught is not a bad thing, shows desire. Get a scrap piece of metal and practice making your welds. You will get it .
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips and the encouragement. By the way, for unknown reasons YouTunbe's spam filter keeps moving your posts to the spam folder which is why I missed it when you posted it. Very strange. Thanks again.
@joegarage6132
@joegarage6132 5 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright well my downfall is computers, I got something on my apple computer yesterday, thought they fixed it, oh well , hope this works thanks for the information
@damirdze
@damirdze 3 жыл бұрын
@@joegarage6132 why to bread while welding ? I am not a professional welder too, and I hold my breath to save the lungs and heart from inhaling the gasses or even dust from the process.
@DereksWorkshopAndProjects
@DereksWorkshopAndProjects 5 жыл бұрын
Your down right impressive for a hobby guy. I suppose the biggest thing is having the right tools but everything your doing seems really quite well done. Great job!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
You are very generous. Thanks for the kudos.
@thepubliceye
@thepubliceye Жыл бұрын
I'm not impressed, the guy has a lathe he should have made that piece.
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 5 жыл бұрын
Good useful mods. My HF 20 ton press came with the round stock welded in crooked and I didn't unbox it till well after the 90 day warranty. So I need to make a straight ram.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I do consider purchases at Harbor Freight to be a bit of a coin toss. Sometimes you really do win though.
@phillipchambers8487
@phillipchambers8487 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video. More great Ideas to upgrade the HF Press. You're well on your way having a good Press for not much money.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again. Consider documenting your journey. Everyone wins if you do. This community is incredibly generous with ideas, help, and support.
@phillipchambers8487
@phillipchambers8487 5 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright That is great to know. Man I just wish youtube, and all these Videos would have been around 25 - 30 years ago, and I would be a lot further down the Machining road. now. Lol Keep up the good work.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. Other guys videos like Tom Lipton over at Oxtools really helped me out when I was starting.
@keithharmon2056
@keithharmon2056 5 жыл бұрын
great job Brother, I have this same press. You have some great ideas here I may use some of them.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate the comment.
@jeremiahperez1
@jeremiahperez1 5 жыл бұрын
Great work! Great informative video
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@daveprototype6079
@daveprototype6079 6 жыл бұрын
Nice upgrades; great video quality too Cheers
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@ColdWarVet607
@ColdWarVet607 5 жыл бұрын
Every time you makes an improvement, please send me the piece, I should have a full press in about 10 more episodes? Fantastic Loved it...whens Part 3?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I have some ideas...thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate the feedback.
@darrenanton2898
@darrenanton2898 6 жыл бұрын
Thats a good Project ! Love it!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@loloforge2841
@loloforge2841 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! The title of this is “Make Improvements to the Harbor Freight 20 Ton Press...”, you should have taken a few more episodes and call it: “How to make your own USA made 20 Ton Press with dual adjustable pistons”!!! Lol. Solid work man, solid!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. In case you missed them, there were also a couple of other videos with improvements and one where I looked at how much force the press could actually produce. Happy New Year.
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a really big pipe wrench to rebuild my floor jack. If I had to do it again I might try a strap wrench made to take a tee handle. ABOM repairs hydraulic cylinders it looks like you need an in at a hydraulics store to get the good prices. Ah, you mention Abom. I agree with dismounting lathe chucks onto a board and have seen some nice custom ones that prevent rolling and position the chuck near its final height. I like the idea of clamping a bar in the chuck as a handle to move and position it.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments. I like the strap wrench idea. I only have a small one.
@russelllaferrera892
@russelllaferrera892 5 жыл бұрын
I added a winch with cables crossing over the top of the Press connecting to the handles on each side. I used a bearing w/long bolt across the top of the Press (this is used as cable guides.) The purpose of this set up is to raise/lower the table. This makes it easier when you have a heavy item on the table.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea. moving the table up and down is a pain.
@ricklp7938
@ricklp7938 5 жыл бұрын
On my press the channels that form the work table were tall enough to cover a set of pin holes in the uprights . I drilled two holes to accommodate an extra set of pins so it is supported at four points rather than just two . An older press I have has deformed holes in the uprights due to repeated heavy use .
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences with this press and possible solutions to the eventual problems.
@thenet0120002
@thenet0120002 6 жыл бұрын
I built my press and i added the ability to thread a large thread into the bottom with a design like the one you showed in the beginning to so i did not have to destroy a jack to have this adjustable feature. I can mount different pushing shapes just by screwing the next attachment in.. I also added a means to raise and lower the press support by adding a houst and cable so i don't have to play with the support which weighs then try to load the height pins .
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I considered making the threaded portion myself, but I already had the spare jack and I was not sure if I could pull of ACME threads, especially the internal ones, easily.
@thenet0120002
@thenet0120002 6 жыл бұрын
I believe you can buy a acme tap / die to make the threads or you can bore out the center of you punch and braze or weld a thread that you buy into the hole. They sell big nut and threads that could be used . Just suggestion!
@wintercoder6687
@wintercoder6687 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... I just picked up a HF 20T Press for $154 (on sale). Thought I got a pretty good deal. After watching a couple of these "HF Press Mod" videos, I'm excited to know that If I save my pennies (~$200K worth of them) I too could have all of machines necessary to turn my $159 shop press into a $1K shop press all by myself!! Great video BTW.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
I get the equipment thing, but others have found way around have large machines. I am sure you could too. The press is a decent deal for the money. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@ianmoone2359
@ianmoone2359 Жыл бұрын
Got to say that I think this is a masterful effort indeed. Would like to copy this for sure. 👍 It’s a shame they don’t come this way from the manufacturer, because all of the improvements make a lot of sense to me from an operator comfort / satisfaction point of view. Poor design soon leads to dissatisfaction if using it becomes a bug-bear. I’m after a shop press, never owned one - mostly for broaching internal keyways - but also pressing bearings in and out etc. I think this would be a great addition to my shop. Thanks ever so much for showing all your improvements, all well thought out & executed. I’ll have to subscribe now. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the compliments. I really appreciate them . This community is great about sharing ideas and improvements. I just wanted to play my part, because I have benefitted so much from other's outstanding work.
@sanfordrhudy774
@sanfordrhudy774 7 ай бұрын
@DudleyToolwright Man, I wish that I had all of the machinery like you have. But, all of that machinery wouldn't be worth a darn without your skill. So,,,to go along with all the machinery, yup,,,I also would like to have all of your SKILLZZZ!!
@jimosborn5400
@jimosborn5400 6 жыл бұрын
Great machine work! I don't have the tools or skill to do anything like this. I do have 1 little idea for your shop press. On the very top of the press I installed 2 broom spring clips to hold the handle for the jack so it wouldn't stick out, or get misplaced.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, Thanks.
@SgtCude59
@SgtCude59 5 жыл бұрын
awesome upgrade gave me some ideal to fix mine
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@tomsdreamshopworx
@tomsdreamshopworx 6 жыл бұрын
I have the same press, so I’m really enjoying watching you mod yours. How is the fit of the new bar over the frame sides. The original had a lot of play in it?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
The original had better than 0.150" slop per side. I presume that they were attempting to compensate for mediocre fit up for the welds. I do not have the same clearance everywhere on the column. The new bar was almost too tight. It works, but if I had gone any tighter it would stick in places. Thanks for the questions.
@nathanwarner4333
@nathanwarner4333 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I will do some of the same things or sort of !!!! Thanks
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If you end up doing things differently, please share. We can all benefit.
@riverwizard22
@riverwizard22 6 жыл бұрын
Nice put a triangular gusset on the top piece so as to stabilize it preventing twisting. Above the Jack, Like a 3/16" flat stock on both front and rear, triangular, Like 8"wide on bottom and 12"wide at top or bigger. Nice job . You have machinery I'd love to have... I also have the 20 Ton HF PRESS...
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the really interesting idea. I have not used this press enough to see the twisting issues. I appreciate the heads up on a solution, even before I run in to the problem. Much appreciated.
@charlesdevore7271
@charlesdevore7271 Жыл бұрын
On my application drilling additional 21mm holes on the 2 column uprights inline and halfway between the existing 4.5" center holes would allow adjustment for my 2 sets of dies,,has anyone drilled holes in that manner, any ideas of structural results,,?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I understand the idea. I think the designed hole spacing was chosen based on ram travel length so that you could get full range coverage. I would carefully consider doing anything that potentially makes the column weaker. After doing my pressure testing of this hydraulic press, Harbor Freight seems to have had, at least some parts, made without much of any safety margin. When testing the press at full capacity (20Tons) the top bar of the press deformed permanently. Failures in high PSI environments can be catastrophic, so please be careful.
@robertgoldsteen604
@robertgoldsteen604 Жыл бұрын
Great ideas to upgrade my Chinesium press, I have ordered an air/hydraulic jack. A pressure gauge would be good, but how to do it?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
That is a good question. You would need the pressure in the piston, which isn't too easy to access. Interesting problem.
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 4 жыл бұрын
There's plenty of room for improvement on these Chinese, Taiwanese made equipment. They tend to use cheap, re-cycled steel which are softer and full of other elements. We are seeing a trend towards these kinds of re-engineering lately and this clip is one of the best. My 1950's British made press is mechanical and I will be converting to hydraulic soon. Thanks for posting, enjoyed watching.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate all comments, but I must say that favorable reviews or people commenting that I helped in some small way are my favorite. If you end up making a video of your update project, let me know. I would love to watch.
@kenabi
@kenabi 5 жыл бұрын
the newer versions of this have boxed steel on the push bar instead of c-channel, there's a plate under the jack itself, and the top where the ram sits is a ring instead of the two fold channel from front to back. there's some improvements that can be made with the new model, but not as many need to be done.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Much appreciated. Harbor Freight does seem to want to iterate and slowly improve their products. Thanks again.
@347chas
@347chas 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video, one question, bottom plate under jack, 5/8'', you put on screen 0.750, thats 3/4, am i missing something here......
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
The answer is simple. I screwed up when I was talking. I was estimating and guessed wrong. The plate I had was 3/4" thick. I was just using a piece of stock I had on hand. The job was to spread the force of the piston out over the bottom of the jack base casting.. I would guess that 5/8" would also be adequate if the original Harbor Freight thin welded stock also worked. Thanks for the comment.
@g.tucker8682
@g.tucker8682 Жыл бұрын
Btw, ATF can also work well as a cold weather hydraulic fluid. Great ideas here, some I will definitely borrow. Thanks!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
That is good to know and it makes sense. Thanks!
@craigwiess1656
@craigwiess1656 Жыл бұрын
My old skid steer calls for type F atf instead if hydraulic fluid late 70s early 80s takes a few minutes to warm everything up when it's cold out.
@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598
@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598 4 жыл бұрын
Like I stated in another video, I made D shaped handles from 1/16" x 1" flat for the cradle shafts to make them easier to work with and installed a cable winch & pulleys to move the cradle up & down much easier, particularly useful when adjusting with a work piece in the press. Otherwise, excellent ideas.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks for sharing your ideas. I could really use a pulley system to raise and lower my cross bars.
@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598
@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598 4 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwrightThanks. That is the awesome thing about the net. People can share all sorts of information so everyone can benefit.
@MikesGarage96
@MikesGarage96 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever decide to manufacture any of them knobs, id be happy to buy one from you! I hate using that handle to open the valve on mine.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will add your name to the list.
@DesertRatFabrication
@DesertRatFabrication 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, when you are drilling and cutting holes with the hole saw what do you use for lubrication and does it cool as well. thanks Mike
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I was using Cool Tool II and yes it cools a bit and lubricates. I haven't tried too many other cutting fluids, because this on has always seemed to work well. I have used WD40, especially with aluminum, but over time, if loeft on the machines, it can get really sticky and nasty. Just my thoughts.
@DesertRatFabrication
@DesertRatFabrication 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks much
@zod-engineering-welding
@zod-engineering-welding 6 жыл бұрын
Great work.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Very kind, Thanks.
@andrewperlik9415
@andrewperlik9415 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. I'm looking for another lathe, and if you do not mind will you tell your viewers a little about yours? From the blue color, it looks like a Precision Mathews? What brand and country of origin? Have you run any precision tests on it? Appreciate anything that you have to share.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
It is an ACRA 14 Heavy weighing in at about 3300 pounds. I have turned an item a foot long and held a tenth before. It is a much better lathe than my skills dictate. It is made in Taiwan. I have been extremely happy with it. It has a 5HP motor and a coolant pump/sump. Here is a link to the current version: www.acramachinery.com/Manual_Machines/1400-1600TE.htm I have a sales contact in the Rancho Cucamonga, Ca. offices if you need it. They were extremely helpful.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ideas. Also, love the machine room dictionary word "craptastic".
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I can't remember where I heard the word, but I immediately loved and adopted it. Cheers.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hear it mostly from machinist and mold makers.BTW, I noticed Harbor Freight has a Central Machinery 20 Ton Industrial that has the air motor, in the mid $200's price. Painted Orange.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I wasn't aware, nor have I seen it. Thanks.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's marketed to crush oil filters but it's still a 20 ton frame so it's not as tall some have reported, around 3 feet tall. If so, no big deal to raise it up to standing height.
@Railsplitter21
@Railsplitter21 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious how you made the hand turn knob on the bottle jack?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
I made it on my lathe, which puts this part out of reach for many, but there are some other really creative solutions out there.
@windego40
@windego40 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video, i wanted to ask what type of taps do you use? Ive used a couple and they dont seem as well built as the ones you use
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I do not recall the mfg. off hand, but perhaps you are more interested in the style. There are three main styles of taps: Hand, spiral pointed, and spiral fluted. Hand taps are the ones you see most often and can come in sets of 3 including the starting, plug, and bottoming taps. The spiral point taps are for power feeding through holes where the chips created are pushed in front of the tap. Spiral fluted taps are for power tapping blind holes and eject the chips out the back. I was using this type of tap. If this was really not your question I think it might have been Kennametal, Hertel, or OSG.
@steveclark2103
@steveclark2103 3 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright What brand name is what he wants I think.
@danielleonte8464
@danielleonte8464 5 жыл бұрын
That's the best press I ever seen!!!!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Very kind, thanks.
@glenglene8473
@glenglene8473 2 жыл бұрын
Great contents. You turned $200 press into $2,000 press.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I am still using the press and it works reasonably well.
@WireWeHere
@WireWeHere 5 жыл бұрын
There's a potential consideration I would like to mention, bottle Jack's can be modded to work right side not up. The acme thread clearance adjustment shaft does then appear, as luck would have it on occasion, pointing the way of the udder. Good day and I'll watch for more of your, how it should have been done, videos.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Others have mentioned this as well. I was not aware of this at the time, so thanks. I have tons to learn and I appreciate you helping me along.
@WireWeHere
@WireWeHere 5 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright making a wheel for your main Jack's acme shaft is another possibility although you will be working against the two springs. I lost those in favour of counter weights encased in the stanchions. It's never ending. Have fun.
@JasonAguirre
@JasonAguirre 3 жыл бұрын
When I assembled one of these today, I noticed the vertical frame doesn't actually touch the base of the feet. It's just resting on the bolts. There are also four struts at the bottom that are suppose to keep it from wobbling, but the two pieces they bolt into aren't on the same plane so the strut has to flex to be tightened. It all seems fixable but haven't noticed anyone mentioning it so wondering if I just got a crappy unit.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight seems to source their tools from multiple vendors, so they are all different. When I bought mine, there were three different part numbers that different stores carried. In your case there is not much force on the base so it seems like you'll be okay. Nice information for the community.
@hu5116
@hu5116 11 ай бұрын
Nice vid, thanks! On the piston shaft, I’m not sure why you thought it would be cast iron, as cast iron brittle and could shatter under the imperfectly unbalanced loads in a job which was not set up perfectly (most of them ;-). It needs to be incompressible and resistant to bending, while not fracturing.. so it needs tough and strong. Cast iron is hard (so it make a good end cap) but could shatter when bent. IMHO of course .
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 11 ай бұрын
You make some excellent points. I was factoring in the fact that these tools were sold by Harbor Freight, who used to sell theses presses with cast iron press plates. There are a surprising number of comments talking about catastrophic failures.
@paterickcutts5601
@paterickcutts5601 5 жыл бұрын
I saw what looked like an Eisen lathe manual near something you were filming, do you have an Eisen lathe? I've been thinking of getting an Eisen 1324 and am curious to know how you like it? Thanks
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
My lathe is an ACRA. That Eisen document was a brochure that came with a right angle attachment I got for my mill. The quality of that tool seems pretty good if that is worth anything.
@tkskagen
@tkskagen Жыл бұрын
When it comes to using your Lathe, I would recommend running down the external diameter to keep "the wobble" TRUE for your application! Sure wish that I had a Sturdy Lathe for the 3× a year (maximum possibility of use) within my shop/garage...
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I get the love of tools. Every one opens new possibilities for things you can achieve.
@BDuck-lp2pg
@BDuck-lp2pg 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to know what the ID was on the bottle jack ram and if it would have been possible to just slide it over the existing piece that was provided by the manufacturer? Might be an easier way for those of us that don't have machines to make all of the machining changes that you made.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the question. I always try to reply to every comment. It has been several years since I made these mods and I did not keep the original fixed ram and crosspiece. As I recall they were very similar in diameter, but I am not entirely sure. I really like your approach to the solution. You definitely could reduce the diameter of the fixed shaft to fit inside the one I removed from the jack that came with the press. It would require a large lathe of removal and then it would need to be rewelded to the crosspiece. I suppose with a bunch of effort you could manually reduce the diameter. Your approach is a novel one. A bigger problem for me to comment is that Harbor Freight changes their product manufacturers all the time and often has multiple SKUs for current products, so I have no idea if my observations currently apply. On a positive note they seem to be incrementally improving their tools.
@PeterHatch-mx7zc
@PeterHatch-mx7zc 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I injoy youf videos
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@PeterHatch-mx7zc
@PeterHatch-mx7zc 4 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright watching one now
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 6 жыл бұрын
Put a match to it, see if it burns. LOL - Press out the plug. Yes/No? - Spindexer and ball end mill would have worked for handle scallops. - Did you mill a flat on the shaft where you brass bushing contacts the shaft? - It's different from other adjustment modifications I've seen. Hope to see it in use.....soon. Great work, and video.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Which plug are you talking about? The oil drain? Spindexer was my first thought, but I got lazy and didn't want to pull off my vise, so tried to make that work. I think your suggestion is much better than what I did though. I didn't show it, but the work piec moved before I got the big handle for my vise (I usually use a speed handle). I considered a flat, but didn't want to compromise the ram in any way. It holds very firmly though, as is. Thanks for the continued support. I really appreciate it.
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 6 жыл бұрын
13:40 The cast iron plug in the cut off end of the ram. Now that I look at it again there would be nothing to support it while pressing, as it over laps the end of the tube.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
True. I was originally going to use it as a keeper between the 2x4 tube and the plate. Instead, I used friction.
@drickard67
@drickard67 5 жыл бұрын
@@marianoaldogaston the kerosene I lit with a match yesterday must've been defective.
@charlesdevore7271
@charlesdevore7271 Жыл бұрын
Considering the design limits of the 20 ton press I am wondering if limiting the input pressure to the air over jack to 90 psi would de-rate it to around 17 tons?...oh yes I did drill those extra column holes and that came out well
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
I think that limiting the air pressure would work. Nice idea.
@kevinmcguire3715
@kevinmcguire3715 Жыл бұрын
You mention that Harbor freight did not do a careful job machining the jack ram. It looks like you use a 4 jaw independent chuck . Why did you not indicate the ram while installing it in the 4 jaw chuck? Or, is the ram slightly bent from pressing stuff?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
You make a good point. I was just facing off the face, but it could have ended up crooked in the jaws with the final face not perpendicular to the shaft axis. I should have.
@bryankirk3567
@bryankirk3567 5 жыл бұрын
On testing the Half-ball-bearing valves on old Rolls-Royce jet engine fuel valves, the test pressure was 2000 bar kerosene. More than enough to cut the end of a finger clean off, which it did to one of my colleagues, much to our delight.
@bryankirk3567
@bryankirk3567 5 жыл бұрын
Mistake was made! It was 200 bars of kerosene pressure. Sorry
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
That was a fascinating if not terrifying story. Thanks for the contribution. I had heard a story from an electrician that had worked building oil refineries and he was told that a pin hole in the ultra-high pressure hydrogen line had cased the decapitation of a worker who had walked through the nearly invisible jet. Respect high energy systems.
@snoopu2601
@snoopu2601 2 жыл бұрын
We have a huge drill press looks like it was made in the 1930s has that art deco style to it, we need a motor for it to get it going. We have many industrial tool's heavy duty machine's that we got from old timers that are no longer needing then. They see my brother's and I are always building are working on stuff. I guess they feel like there tool's are going to a good home that will get used. I have many nephew's and there friend's that like building thing's to.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 жыл бұрын
The old machines are made to last. With a little bit of effort they can last multiple lifetimes.
@OldAndGettingOlder
@OldAndGettingOlder 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice 2 part video. How does this press now compare to a high dollar one? Seems like it has to be on par or better.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I have never used a high dollar press, but this one has been used since and has performed well. I don't really have a base for comparison, sorry about that.
@sawz5
@sawz5 5 жыл бұрын
machining brass is like magic alright it gets to places you think are impossible!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Every tool presents a whole new world of possibilities to me. I'm an addict.
@rednek40
@rednek40 4 жыл бұрын
Nice mods, maybe you could add a gauge to the ram somehow. At my job we have a 50 ton and a 20 each with a gauge. I like the idea of knowing how much pressure (psi) is applied. FYI for cuts and scrapes super glue is your best friend. Clean said cut dry and apply small amount to cover area. Brake cleaner will find any cut. the glue will protect from dirt grease out. just peel glue off when finished working to clean up.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
I have thought about that and I agree it would be really useful. All you need is pressure in the ram and the ram surface are and you can calculate the rest. Thanks for the tips. I do use superglue upon occasion. It really can work well. Electrical tape also works in a pinch.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I too have some press upgrades currently going on. Never gave much thought to that pusher pin ram thing. I may have to address that, since I'm upping mine to a 30 ton air/over hydraulic, with additional gussets, boxed in supports etc.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
If you are making a video, I would love to see your take on improving this press. I did consider going to a 30 tone jack, but was not comfortable with Harbor Freight gear having enough safety margin to pull it off. You approach sounds wise. I look forward to seeing it. I have sub'd. Thanks.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess I'd better make sure it turns into a video! See, the way I figure it, is that I'm not going to max out to 30 tons, but with a modified press brake, it'll make bending 1/4" plate for tabs and brackets that much easier and quicker. That's kind of the limit I work with in the shop anyway, based on max welder penetration (without having to do multi-pass welding) But yeah, on the docket is DOM tube spacers welded in the side legs where the pins go. Then fully box that C-Channel. Obviously, use grade 8 bolts everywhere... which I think I've already upgraded. Then on the platform, fit in little vertical gussets on the C-Channel, both sides, then box that in. Then on the upper part of the press, more vertical ribbing, and weld the open portion closed. I've not yet decided how I'm going to do that. Initially, it seems like you'd just slap a piece of 1/4" plate across the top. But the more I think about it, I'm leaning towards a piece of C-Channel in the down position. I've got my foot actuated pneumatic switch for the ram. Then I'll mount the whole thing to a mobile base. The last part is to find chainmail to make a front and rear curtain.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are really going to end up with a nice press. You have me intrigued. I look forward to seeing a video(s) if you make them.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'll have content recorded for it as I go. I'll also most likely post on my instagram for sure though @EcoMouseDesign (I upgraded my HF gantry crane in much the same way. All grade 8 hardware, and an entirely new longer, stronger I-beam. So, I'll definitely be documenting the press build)
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I will check out your Instagram page and wait for the press build.
@1ton4god
@1ton4god 5 жыл бұрын
I think you've inspired me to build my own press. I have a ton of Steel and them a pretty good welder. I do not own any kind of Machine Tools though ie a lathe or Mill. After you going to this process do you think I would have to have a lathe a mill to finish one?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I hope you video the process. I for one, would enjoy watching the build. There have been some really creative suggestions made to me in the comments, about how to achieve my results or better, without having access to really expensive equipment.
@1ton4god
@1ton4god 5 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright I am definitely going to do that. I've never done a lot of KZfaq videos but I think I'm going to try my hand at it. I definitely built a lot of stuff. Thank you for the encouraging word. I love your honesty on stuff like the Machining and stuff. Cuz that stuff is so far above my head. I like the way you describe it in terms of people can understand.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I've sub'd and am ready whenever you get the time. Good luck, it'll be great.
@egH22a
@egH22a 5 жыл бұрын
You sir, is awesome!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Very kind, thanks.
@meirschwartz8554
@meirschwartz8554 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@johnfry9010
@johnfry9010 6 жыл бұрын
Pimp my Press , Nice work !
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@rogerthetinker5116
@rogerthetinker5116 6 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that you did not make the side tangs ( the pieces that you welded on ) a little taller to keep the twisting front to back down.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't used the press that much yet, but I haven't seen any twisting issues. I will keep my eyes open now. Thanks.
@11YeeP11
@11YeeP11 Жыл бұрын
I only wish I had a mill and a lathe so I could do the same thing. I think I can come somewhat close and not as sexy looking. Question for you: Can you show some examples of the tools that you would make to attach to the new ram head? (I think that is what you call the rod that presses in side the press). I may have to see if I can get mine turned down to a perfect circle so I can do the same. Nice job, subscribed.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I did these videos quite a while ago, but didn't I show making an adapter in at least one of them? All I did was bore out a piece of 4140 to the proper diameter and added some Allen screws just for friction to hold it in place. Thank you very much for the sub.
@whidbeyman
@whidbeyman 6 жыл бұрын
Pressing shaft is called a ‘ram’. I like the mods. Technical name for male bosses concentric with a part is ‘spigot’,
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Very strange that. I couldn't remember the word, "ram" until I finished the video. The word spigot on the other hand, I was never familiar with. Thanks as always.
@PeterHatch-mx7zc
@PeterHatch-mx7zc 3 жыл бұрын
Can I come and work in your shop !! Great video
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@robertgoldsteen604
@robertgoldsteen604 Жыл бұрын
I live in Sydney Australia, what oil should be used?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Hydraulic fluid, but I am not sure of the viscosity. I am definitely not a hydraulic expert.
@vinmaga6417
@vinmaga6417 5 жыл бұрын
Nice upgrade
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
I has worked out quite well so far, thanks.
@garthdaddy7438
@garthdaddy7438 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you have thought to check the fluid in your air/hyd jack for metal particales, if there are any they could cause problems down the line.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
That is a great suggestion. I am not sure why it did not occur to me? I would think that there could be some scoring caused by them on the unhardened surfaces, which might lead to leakage. Thanks for the great and now obvious recommendation.
@garthdaddy7438
@garthdaddy7438 6 жыл бұрын
Hi yes a steel chip under one of the ball bearing seats would give a leak, I have reseated those by dropping in a ball and thumping it with a punch it works most of the time.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate the approach.
@vincescalise4821
@vincescalise4821 5 жыл бұрын
Great improvements you made I thought your welds look pretty darn good
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thank you. I have a long way to go, but I appreciate the support.
@vincescalise4821
@vincescalise4821 5 жыл бұрын
not many people even tig weld let alone do it well looked great
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
You are very kind, thanks.
@shaunkijak2571
@shaunkijak2571 5 жыл бұрын
Bad ass. You've earned a subscriber. Can you please make me a bleeder screw knob! I love that feature!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
You aren't the first. If I ever get a CNC machine I will crank some out. Thanks for the kind words.
@stephenmoulton9284
@stephenmoulton9284 4 жыл бұрын
the guides at the end of the box steel could have been extended up to lower the speed of drama that might occur in failure ?
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Thanks for sharing it with the community.
@portocal1976
@portocal1976 Жыл бұрын
Great job is there way to order all this great improvements for me? Thanks
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I am afraid that as a manual machinist these parts would have to be too expensive to be worth it for the consumer. If I ever decide to make a batch, I will let you know. The other problem is that Harbor Freight constantly changes their products, often having multiple SKUs for a single item, like this press. If I made parts for one, they might very well not fit another.
@portocal1976
@portocal1976 Жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright Thanks anyway … if some day decide to make it … I’ll be happy to have it Have a nice Sunday
@ghilreese3413
@ghilreese3413 6 жыл бұрын
Nice press videos. Swag off road makes press plates to replace the HF ones. Thanks for the videos.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I was not aware they made press parts. I will check it out. Thanks.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Boy they have expanded their offerings. Very cool.
@ghilreese3413
@ghilreese3413 6 жыл бұрын
The Swag DIY press brake would be handy.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
It would indeed. They are really coming up with a bunch of great products.
@littlebriar
@littlebriar 5 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyToolwright Old thread, but, I recently bought Swag's 20 ton press brake kit and their gooseneck dies. The kit was easy to fabricate and works great on my unmodified 20 ton HF press. I have used them several times. I'm thinking about getting their arbor press brakes but they are not cheap. Loved both videos on the project and will do something similar on mine when the weather warms up in my unheated, Michigan shop.
@inerlogic
@inerlogic 5 жыл бұрын
Would it have been cheaper/easier to machine your own presser shaft, cut the acme thread, etc, rather than sacrifice a working jack? For support, would it make sense to cut a small cup in the base plate? So the shaft is supported on the end by the cup and the two wall thicknesses....
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting take. I will have to think more about your suggestions. Thanks. I had zero used for another spare jack, so I was not worried about killing the one I salvaged. However, it would have been an interesting project making a presser shaft as you suggest. Cool.
@eddietowers5595
@eddietowers5595 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Cool project. Oh yeah, ram [piston] the hydraulic cylinder, to push, is a ram.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, it was weird. The whole time I was making the video, I couldn't remember the name for the "ram", until I was editing it. Go figure. My brain works strangely with word recall. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.
@eddietowers5595
@eddietowers5595 6 жыл бұрын
No worries, the brain is a fickle machine, the whole point was the project, but i’ll Lend a hand when it’s needed. Thanks for sharing cools vids.
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 6 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated.
@padraicmcguire108
@padraicmcguire108 5 жыл бұрын
Ive rebuilt several 20 and 50T jacks. Getting them apart requires a huge pipe wrench and a hand maul Instead of parting the cylinder, id have used a band saw and then faced it. I think suggest having the screw head hard faced. At 20T you will be close to the yield stress for the soft soft screw head and so subject to brinelling. A good welder can put 50 thousandths of hard steel on this to protect it. Better quality jacks are not painted together as this one was,
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions. I did not have a band saw when I completed this project, but I will remember your ideas, if and when this comes up again. I like the maul idea. I have to secure the workbench where my vise is attached better, because I could make it move all over the place. I also thought about a 1" impact wrench. I have seen miracle performed with them, like taking a pully of an alternator shaft. Thanks as always for being so helpful.
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