More Polyrhythms - Music Theory Crash Course

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Odd Quartet

3 жыл бұрын

There are many different ways to look at polyrhythms in music and today we are looking at a different one, using star shapes. Last time we visualized these rhythms using straight sided polygons but I had a great comment on the last video that suggested using a star shape. So after many hours of making the new animations here are the more common polyrhythms you will find in music visualized using star shapes. This is an exercise in visualizing musician not a method for teaching polyrhythms. I hope you enjoy!
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@oenwilson2486
@oenwilson2486 Жыл бұрын
That 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm could've sounded awesome if you chose notes that harmonized well with it but great video nonetheless
@GOATaro_
@GOATaro_ Жыл бұрын
Agree
@vuedanto8576
@vuedanto8576 Жыл бұрын
It sounds great when it was 1:2:3:4:5
@TimothyLowYK
@TimothyLowYK Жыл бұрын
I think it was meant to be a quartal chord built on perfect fourths
@oenwilson2486
@oenwilson2486 Жыл бұрын
@@TimothyLowYK guess that explains why quartal harmony probably only sounds nice to a certain degree cuz when a lot of the fourths are stacked it doesn't sound as great compaerd to the stack of fifths probably
@tomdekler9280
@tomdekler9280 Жыл бұрын
Maybe if he adjusted the pitch to match the relative frequencies? I know 2:3 makes a perfect fifth if you speed it up enough.
@neopessimist7326
@neopessimist7326 3 жыл бұрын
Its quite interesting how you can hear the rythmn go almost go to unclear noise. Like a toddler that over enthausiastic rings the doorbell.
@cl0p38
@cl0p38 Жыл бұрын
It all started with 7, nobody likes 7
@LaurensHouweling
@LaurensHouweling Жыл бұрын
to be fair it was played really fast
@circumplex9552
@circumplex9552 Жыл бұрын
@@cl0p38 all prime numbers are weird except 2 3 and 5
@scrapgrace
@scrapgrace Жыл бұрын
Go 2x speed
@netric9084
@netric9084 Жыл бұрын
I like how the ending sounded like someone playing random keys, laying their whole arm on the keyboard, playing random notes again, and repeating.
@ryanjoshuacalo9146
@ryanjoshuacalo9146 Жыл бұрын
and then ends with a peaceful silence
@Adam_S0612gg
@Adam_S0612gg Жыл бұрын
I USED TO DO THIS😭
@cheeseburgermonkey7104
@cheeseburgermonkey7104 6 ай бұрын
One of them sounds like a car door open noise i cant even 😭😭😭😭
@gvmrpg
@gvmrpg 11 ай бұрын
I've been playing drums for 16 years and for the first time in my life I managed to REALLY visualize what a 6:7 is actually doing in the background. Seeing it was so much easier than just clapping to the beat. Thank you for this!
@mmm-tacos
@mmm-tacos Жыл бұрын
i want to see that 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrythm: 1. with just the dots 2. using the harmonic series as the notes
@PabloGambaccini
@PabloGambaccini Жыл бұрын
Was going to say the same, numbers equal harmonic series ❤ it's like a recursive harmonic series in that way.
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 10 ай бұрын
​@@PabloGambaccinitrue yeah actually
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 10 ай бұрын
59th like
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 10 ай бұрын
​@@PabloGambaccini3rd like
@Whydoiexisthere-
@Whydoiexisthere- 7 ай бұрын
I feel like the out-of-harmony notes can make its own unique song for certain scenes in like, a movie. Each polyrhythm adds onto the chaos, until it eventually transitions from music to noise…
@seanofpeace
@seanofpeace Жыл бұрын
I love how the sound of all the combined polyrhythms take a little 'breath' on the beat (at the bottom of the circle). Great video! Thank you!
@Rarok666
@Rarok666 Жыл бұрын
6:00 The fact you chose the tritone of all things on this exact polyrhythm
@bexsampson8271
@bexsampson8271 Жыл бұрын
an alarm sound
@maurolionelmisjuegosyo940
@maurolionelmisjuegosyo940 Жыл бұрын
And even it’s 9:11 (*police intensifies*)
@asheep7797
@asheep7797 Жыл бұрын
ofc 9;11
@tristanhmusic
@tristanhmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I think the stars are really effective, visually!
@tamarpeer261
@tamarpeer261 2 жыл бұрын
You can also visualize x:y polyrhythms using an y:x billiard table with a ball that starts with 45 degrees. The reason it works is that reflection (the way the ball bounces off the wall) is the same as if your replicated the rectangle across the plane, and looked when the equation x=y hit the walls. It hits a vertical wall every y seconds, and a horizontal wall every x seconds.
@circumplex9552
@circumplex9552 Жыл бұрын
shouldnt the dimensions be 1/y:1/x?
@circumplex9552
@circumplex9552 Жыл бұрын
actually no wait, you explanation makes sense because (1/x)/(1/y) = y/x
@jaybonn5973
@jaybonn5973 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a metaphor for the tritone being the most dominant sound in a cacophony of noise.
@SoldGabriel
@SoldGabriel 8 ай бұрын
Fr
@ferudunatakan
@ferudunatakan Жыл бұрын
5:2 is the best of di-rhythms. Because more points makes it so strident and fast. Others like 2:3 and 3:4 are simple ratios.
@coleozaeta6344
@coleozaeta6344 2 жыл бұрын
The end was everything I wanted.
@komander2365
@komander2365 2 жыл бұрын
7:47 the last visualisation was a bit messed up, becasue there were many different stars hitting at the same spots. It would be super interesting to hear how prime-numbered stars would sound like. Great work tho, keep it up
@elskieuwu
@elskieuwu Жыл бұрын
2:3:5:7:11:13:17
@ojd9145
@ojd9145 Жыл бұрын
:19:23:29:31:37:41:43:47:53
@victorvirgili4447
@victorvirgili4447 Жыл бұрын
“This next song is called ‘A World on Fire’”
@piacomispl2023
@piacomispl2023 Жыл бұрын
The more complex the polirythm the more it sounds like a jackpot
@ci.netproductions
@ci.netproductions Жыл бұрын
8:29… ah yes… SHEAR CHAOS!!!
@viviwu5404
@viviwu5404 2 жыл бұрын
17 is so ridiculous it’s so hard to see and I love that!
@Mikeinator_
@Mikeinator_ Жыл бұрын
I love how once the 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm is fully assembled it sounds like a pianist have a seizure while periodically having moments of clarity.
@lmilli8124
@lmilli8124 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of watching someone else's turn signal swap from in phase to out of phase with my own.
@timothysmudski1058
@timothysmudski1058 3 ай бұрын
Nice, similar concept: watching the footsteps of two people walking abreast. If you're like the rain man you can calculate the ratio of their heights by observing their steps fall in and out of phase
@lorenzoreesor1228
@lorenzoreesor1228 3 жыл бұрын
Each number in the sequence is the sum of the two numbers that precede it. So, the sequence goes: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, and so on. The mathematical equation describing it is Xn+2= Xn+1 + Xn
@whiteboardDSA
@whiteboardDSA 2 жыл бұрын
there is proof that musician actually use left brain more than right you seem to be the proof
@rs-tarxvfz
@rs-tarxvfz 2 жыл бұрын
Uhm, Not sure, that is Fibonacci series. But the polyrhythm goes 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 which is not the Fibonacci Ratio
@MRX-ji3rh
@MRX-ji3rh 2 жыл бұрын
@@rs-tarxvfz was about to say that
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Жыл бұрын
I was like, "is this the right video?"
@superactinide
@superactinide Жыл бұрын
love this, but it would be so much cooler if the notes matched the interval ratios of their polyrhythm
@kengyangtan
@kengyangtan Жыл бұрын
The 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 sounded like an alarm that got more stressful every second
@BananaDude508
@BananaDude508 2 жыл бұрын
the best way to think about polyrhythms is 2 different car blinkers started at the same time, looking like they are in tune but they they leave sync then join again
@Polyrhythms
@Polyrhythms Жыл бұрын
This is very cool!
@yoffo_
@yoffo_ 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, in the end i could clearly make out the 2:3 rhythm against the noise
@user-gh2ys6jb3u
@user-gh2ys6jb3u 2 жыл бұрын
The 3 points star is the most unique looking and sounding i've ever seen.
@duality4y
@duality4y Жыл бұрын
5:2 is pretty neat sounding
@smun2931
@smun2931 2 жыл бұрын
you can use bezier curve to do better stars and having the point following the curves better
@AhmedAldoori
@AhmedAldoori Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brilliant, thank you so much for making this!
@Paruthi.618
@Paruthi.618 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video.. very cool video watched today on KZfaq
@spacetrucker2196
@spacetrucker2196 2 жыл бұрын
This is really good, I didn’t understand how to visualize polyrhythms other then playing by ear before this.
@crep50
@crep50 Жыл бұрын
Time to make a song based off of the elusive 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:11:13:17 polyrhythm
@skelenize
@skelenize Жыл бұрын
5:56 yeah im pretty sure it sounded like that
@sirbanjorochambeaux
@sirbanjorochambeaux Жыл бұрын
i did some learns, but maybe do a more distinct sound like bass vs guitar (i'm not the greatest on the keys, and it was hard to tell them apart without watching). thamk.
@alexandremigueldoromal
@alexandremigueldoromal Жыл бұрын
13 against 17 sounds the best in my opinion.
@damiennightmaresx7950
@damiennightmaresx7950 Жыл бұрын
i love the final design and for what ever reason i thought i heard E before the 17 star got added-
@thevoidanswerswithjazz2215
@thevoidanswerswithjazz2215 Жыл бұрын
Ligeti would Looove this big combined one at the end
@johnellison3030
@johnellison3030 Жыл бұрын
Extremely educational video for me in understanding time signatures and changes to them in music. Very well done. Please do more of these.
@robbes7rh
@robbes7rh Жыл бұрын
I love how you built up to that tour de force polyglot polyrhythm. Chaos that is completely coherent, symetrical, and orderly.
@echolegend4400
@echolegend4400 Жыл бұрын
1:2:3:4 sounded really good and then 5 brought chaos with it
@tristantheoofer2
@tristantheoofer2 Жыл бұрын
even 1:2:3:4:5 doesnt sound bad and tbh that and 7:9 ontop sounds ok i guess. beyond that tho is chaos
@lubricustheslippery5028
@lubricustheslippery5028 Жыл бұрын
If you speed up an rhythm you get a tone. If you speed up a polyrhytm you should get a chord. It would be interesting to se the correspondens between chords and polyrythms.
@robertpien8708
@robertpien8708 2 жыл бұрын
I think polyrhythms are amazing so many colorful possibilities at your fingertips. Thanks for helping us expand are creativity.
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin 7 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLRoZpublsmlp3U.html
@itsdjpenguin
@itsdjpenguin Жыл бұрын
funny how the 9:11 example has the two notes a tritone apart (which is a rather dissonant interval); wonder if that implies something related to said numbers
@user-qo1yt4xh5b
@user-qo1yt4xh5b 4 күн бұрын
The Polyrhythm 7:9 is amazing🤩
@carmengomez8189
@carmengomez8189 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for teachimg me the basics
@leocrian3194
@leocrian3194 2 жыл бұрын
Loved it man!!! ❤️❤️❤️
@guiltfilterrecords
@guiltfilterrecords Жыл бұрын
Great video, have been struggling to understand polyrthyms, I am self taught musician and this is the best video, thanks so much dude!
@Green24152
@Green24152 9 ай бұрын
even with all that noise the 2:3 combo moment shines through like a beacon
@ejb7969
@ejb7969 Жыл бұрын
Consider using the harmonic series for the final omnipolyrhythm! But yours sounds great!
@jmegapixel7
@jmegapixel7 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video thank you so much. 👏🏻
@Hariztoteles7178
@Hariztoteles7178 2 жыл бұрын
Cool tutorial. . quite easy to play
@6ixty9nine24
@6ixty9nine24 4 ай бұрын
THAT 3:4 SOUNDS TOO AMAZING
@joeboi8216
@joeboi8216 Жыл бұрын
God dammit, now I want a music maker using polyrhythms!
@haniel_0652
@haniel_0652 Жыл бұрын
9:11 sounds like an emergency if you think about that
@DeathZeroTolerance
@DeathZeroTolerance 2 жыл бұрын
5:2 has great tension, beautiful! Is this software available? Did you build it with manim? thanks
@Isaac-1028
@Isaac-1028 Жыл бұрын
5:56 "9 against 11 sounds like this" *Airplane crash sounds*
@jaybonn5973
@jaybonn5973 Жыл бұрын
The use of the tonic fiths dominants and octaves majors and minors for the different ratios are not lost on me.
@paulcastro7507
@paulcastro7507 Жыл бұрын
I know some polyrythm because I know how they sound and I can imitate, but if I have to make a new polyrithm that I don't know (like 5:7) I would need to do the "maths" and after that remember the rythm and just playing it by memory. Is there any trick to not play the polyrythm by memory and doing the rythm just by heart?
@maker0824
@maker0824 6 ай бұрын
6:42 that kid’s going ham on that piano
@eltonwild5648
@eltonwild5648 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Thanks
@yahoo5726
@yahoo5726 Жыл бұрын
Primes against squares are nice.
@Rheologist
@Rheologist Жыл бұрын
I noticed that the (high) frequency ratios of each of the first examples polyrhythm matched ;) nice
@clasesdepercusion
@clasesdepercusion Жыл бұрын
very interesting! thanks
@rickard.eriksson
@rickard.eriksson Жыл бұрын
2 Years of explaining how polyrhtym works, and i look confused, and ask;" Why? ". 10 minutes of a YT video, and i go;" ooooooh, that explains a lot. ".
@willrandship
@willrandship Жыл бұрын
That last one sounds like a sorting algorithm.
@IMINYOURWALLSHARHARHAR
@IMINYOURWALLSHARHARHAR 6 ай бұрын
4:5 sounds so good
@armcannon1998
@armcannon1998 Жыл бұрын
Tritone interval on the 911 polyrhythm, I see you
@joshuakinder
@joshuakinder 11 ай бұрын
9:06 ngl it was emotional, I was about to cry but the video ended soon later
@Tesselatic
@Tesselatic 8 ай бұрын
A Decision has happened 8:58 Last one sounds fire
@mansursher1764
@mansursher1764 Ай бұрын
4:3 is amazing
@kristianbruneteau206
@kristianbruneteau206 Жыл бұрын
Visually and mathematically beautiful
@Tristanchatoy07
@Tristanchatoy07 Жыл бұрын
but if you do 1000:2000 for a star, then it will look like a circle with a thick edge. and if you use marks for 1000:2000, then it will be 2 lines.
@fennelcomeaux9663
@fennelcomeaux9663 Жыл бұрын
that final polyrhythm almost sounded like something from a horror movie
@mr.theking2484
@mr.theking2484 7 ай бұрын
Pneumonic devices for 2:3, 3:4, and 4:5, respectively. 2:3: Hot cup of tea. 3:4: Pass the gosh darn butter. 4:5: I'm looking for a place to stay. Say these to yourself while the respective polyrhythms are playing to get it down easier.
@xochitlmtzgcia
@xochitlmtzgcia Жыл бұрын
3:4 sounds awesome
@nileprimewastaken
@nileprimewastaken Жыл бұрын
at the end, was the volume of the 3:4 polyrhythm boosted? I could still hear it through the noise, even when i was focusing on something else
@Flat_cones
@Flat_cones 2 жыл бұрын
Can you maybe also talk about if there is a difference between 2:3 and 3:2 as an example
@phildiop8248
@phildiop8248 Жыл бұрын
There no real difference I think. Might be wrong, but I think it's just visually note a smaller number:larger number.
@inari.28
@inari.28 Жыл бұрын
@@phildiop8248 there is a difference actually, the second number in 2:3 and 3:2 is the "main" pulse, so if it's in 2:3 it is a beat of 3 with 2 beats countering it, and vice versa for 3:2
@phildiop8248
@phildiop8248 Жыл бұрын
@@inari.28 That's interesting. If both pulses act equally or if there's no ''main'' pulse, would it be small:large?
@Mr.timboo
@Mr.timboo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very interesting that its has 17 parts
@Ducjk711
@Ducjk711 Жыл бұрын
This visualization makes a lot of sense now that you can actually over lap them and see which beat plays when
@parsa.mostaghim
@parsa.mostaghim 2 жыл бұрын
overlaping stars are much better to show the phase difference between two divisions
@tydino101
@tydino101 Жыл бұрын
5:2 sounds like heaven
@ericscheit5540
@ericscheit5540 7 ай бұрын
Its amazing.
@pyrokinetikrlz
@pyrokinetikrlz 2 жыл бұрын
Chopin's Nocturne in B flat minor op9 no1 has a 11:6 polyrhythm in the second measure
@Sora0934
@Sora0934 Жыл бұрын
7:43
@destroyerrider02
@destroyerrider02 Жыл бұрын
Can you use all polyrhythms (i.e. 1:2, 2:3, 3:4, 4:5, 5:6, 6:7, 7:9, 9:11, 11:13, and 13:17) to make a song? Reason why I asked this question is that some polyrhythms can be used to make music. For instance, 50s music uses polyrhythms to make the music more upbeat and hip.
@SerenityMusic3
@SerenityMusic3 Жыл бұрын
Love ❤️ this, where can I get one of those stars 🤩
@sb10834
@sb10834 Жыл бұрын
5:2 sounds like a horror movie
@ItzCataIO
@ItzCataIO Жыл бұрын
The 1-:>17 looks like all the colours are chasing the white one, it looks so funny.
@ridgidrumors
@ridgidrumors Жыл бұрын
Soo when is the app coming out?
@conjunctionjunction8890
@conjunctionjunction8890 2 жыл бұрын
That last one was a real toe tapper
@lorenzoreesor1228
@lorenzoreesor1228 3 жыл бұрын
Do poly rythrms of Fibonacci sequence .
@ferudunatakan
@ferudunatakan Жыл бұрын
The ratio converges to phi
@jdstin1060
@jdstin1060 11 ай бұрын
I like the 5:2 sounds like part of music
@CeliaNightstep
@CeliaNightstep Жыл бұрын
5 to 6 soudns very much like church bells to me. Not sure if church bells sounds different but the ones where i live sounds like it
@alvarofoganholi8294
@alvarofoganholi8294 Жыл бұрын
Fico muito feliz por você estar presente foi...
@Jamiereed9
@Jamiereed9 5 ай бұрын
Idea:Use number lines and mark the position of each tick when the number is to high use a different scale
@matahugu8675
@matahugu8675 10 ай бұрын
the 1:2:3 and 1:2:3:4 sounded the best, ngl
@slink4239
@slink4239 Ай бұрын
I like the 1:2:3:4:5:6
@snoozymac2377
@snoozymac2377 Жыл бұрын
I liked the 1:2:3:4 polyrythym most.
@andrecole2369
@andrecole2369 Жыл бұрын
1:2 is my favorite
@theweebrt
@theweebrt 9 ай бұрын
Why not using Left-Right channel pan for the beats?
@SupportPalestine985
@SupportPalestine985 6 ай бұрын
That 5:2 one got me
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